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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 43,340
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,706
    Well that is not productive.  
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,706
    It is 100% true that this version of the GOP with Biden as president has no real interest in solving any problems.  
    hippiemom = goodness
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,867
    It is 100% true that this version of the GOP with Biden as president has no real interest in solving any problems.  
    They haven’t had interest since the man in tan suit was in the WH! Remember McConnell number one mission? 
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  • .Halifax2TheMax said: MA handled getting punched in the face quite well, really. Almost makes one proud to be an American. 

    One incident.  We get 10 busses a day here in NY.  A day...
  • What if NY, MA, VT, DC, etc. bussed them to small towns in red states like SC, AL, MS, AR, OK, IA, TN, IN or dropped them off in small, rural towns in TX in the middle of the night with no advance warning? Or outside the gates of Mar-I-Lieo? Does that change your mind?
    Whataboutisms...

    Answer my question first.
  • mickeyrat said:
    GOP's new thing is to shut the border down completely?  That is new right?
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 9,029
    edited January 2024
    One incident.  We get 10 busses a day here in NY.  A day...
    Seems Nj is now shipping migrants to NY as well. Or should I say “redirecting” 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,305
    One incident.  We get 10 busses a day here in NY.  A day...

    nicknyr15 said:
    Seems Nj is now shipping migrants to NY as well. Or should I say “redirecting” 
    No worries, Eric Adams is suing the bus companies, as he should. 

  • No worries, Eric Adams is suing the bus companies, as he should. 
    He has asked that the city at least gets notification but they aren't getting that.

    I'm curious to how suing the bus company can even be a thing?  That means that the prisons that drop off released inmates should/can get sued too?
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,305
    He has asked that the city at least gets notification but they aren't getting that.

    I'm curious to how suing the bus company can even be a thing?  That means that the prisons that drop off released inmates should/can get sued too?
    I guess we'll find out. 
  • Whataboutisms...

    Answer my question first.
    How do you know if the migrants are asked where they want to go? I’m guessing they may or not be told where they’re going or being sent. Do you think they all say, “I want a bus to NYC, please?”

    I think they go by luck of the draw where Abbott and Costello tells the bus company where to go. Just added cruelty.

    Now, what about it Eric Adams just bussed them to podunk red state small towns or dropped Them off at huge evangelical churches on a Sunday in red states, so we could witness the Christian compassion so prevalent.
     Would that change your mind?
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,867
    How do you know if the migrants are asked where they want to go? I’m guessing they may or not be told where they’re going or being sent. Do you think they all say, “I want a bus to NYC, please?”

    I think they go by luck of the draw where Abbott and Costello tells the bus company where to go. Just added cruelty.

    Now, what about it Eric Adams just bussed them to podunk red state small towns or dropped Them off at huge evangelical churches on a Sunday in red states, so we could witness the Christian compassion so prevalent.
     Would that change your mind?
    I know if I was on one of those buses and the asked me where I wanted to go I’d choose Disney world 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,305
    lol


  • How do you know if the migrants are asked where they want to go? I’m guessing they may or not be told where they’re going or being sent. Do you think they all say, “I want a bus to NYC, please?”

    I think they go by luck of the draw where Abbott and Costello tells the bus company where to go. Just added cruelty.

    Now, what about it Eric Adams just bussed them to podunk red state small towns or dropped Them off at huge evangelical churches on a Sunday in red states, so we could witness the Christian compassion so prevalent.
     Would that change your mind?
    I've posted and discussed this topic w you before.  Articles I've posted actually mention the migrants wanting to come here.  That is when Adams started his campaign to advocate them not to come to NYC and the flyers started to be passed out along the border a few months ago.

    If Adams does that we can discuss it.  Nice take though.
  • Mexico demands from the US to help w the border fiasco...

    In a press conference on Friday, López Obrador called on the U.S. to approve a plan that would deploy $20 billion to Latin American and Caribbean countries, suspend the U.S. blockade of Cuba, remove all sanctions against Venezuela and grant at least 10 million Hispanics living in the U.S. the right to remain and work legally.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,305
    It's the most important issue facing our country, but not so important that they're going to do anything about it this year. 

    Do you feel like you're being played? You should, because you are. 
  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 5,182
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    For sure optics and political posturing is much better than helping solve a humanitarian crisis for people seeking refuge in our country. Nice to see that people's lives mean so much to her. 
  • I've posted and discussed this topic w you before.  Articles I've posted actually mention the migrants wanting to come here.  That is when Adams started his campaign to advocate them not to come to NYC and the flyers started to be passed out along the border a few months ago.

    If Adams does that we can discuss it.  Nice take though.
    Do you think it’s a preconceived notion for the migrants to think of NYC as the “land of opportunity” or that perhaps they have family or friends who preceded them, and thus a support network in place? I’m not sure why you have difficulty, seemingly, understanding why migrants would want to land in NYC, Statue of Liberty notwithstanding? Seems Abbott and Costello is lashing out by shipping them to dem cities thinking he’s doing something about immigration and hoping those cities will fall. Like Seattle.

    Did you ever find out how those migrants were able to procure scooters and cell phones?
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,305
    For sure optics and political posturing is much better than helping solve a humanitarian crisis for people seeking refuge in our country. Nice to see that people's lives mean so much to her. 
    Spoiler: it's not just her. 

    But in fairness, this is to be expected when an entire group of people are dehumanized. If only there was a historical precedent for this sort of thing. 
  • Unemployment in New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA Metropolitan Statistical Area was 4.2%, unadjusted, for November.


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  • It's the most important issue facing our country, but not so important that they're going to do anything about it this year. 

    Do you feel like you're being played? You should, because you are. 
    Who are u referring to?
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,878
    edited January 2024
    Do you think it’s a preconceived notion for the migrants to think of NYC as the “land of opportunity” or that perhaps they have family or friends who preceded them, and thus a support network in place? I’m not sure why you have difficulty, seemingly, understanding why migrants would want to land in NYC, Statue of Liberty notwithstanding? Seems Abbott and Costello is lashing out by shipping them to dem cities thinking he’s doing something about immigration and hoping those cities will fall. Like Seattle.

    Did you ever find out how those migrants were able to procure scooters and cell phones?
    You argued for them being put on a bus before to come here now you are ok with it? Please choose a different topic, thanks.

    And yes I did.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,305
    Who are u referring to?
    Anyone who buys what the GOP is selling about the border. 
  • You argued for them being put on a bus before to come here now you are ok with it? Please choose a different topic, thanks.

    And yes I did.
    And how do they procure cell phones and scooters?

    I don’t have an issue with migrants. I have an issue with how the “richest and most powerful nation in world history” and a majority of its population considers and treats them, particularly with the way “Christian foundation” gets tossed around.  Boo!
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  • And how do they procure cell phones and scooters?

    I don’t have an issue with migrants. I have an issue with how the “richest and most powerful nation in world history” and a majority of its population considers and treats them, particularly with the way “Christian foundation” gets tossed around.  Boo!
    They have an internal loan program.  They can purchase scooters with loans from others but can't get them registered, hence the police crackdown on unregistered scooters.

    Same goes w the phones. To do deliveries the phones they are given will not allow them to download the app so they borrow someone's phone to make the deliveries.

    Now I didn't ask if they were being sharked or not.  

    My issue is that the influx is unsustainable.  We aren't designed to take, as a nation, the amount of people in such a short time.  
  • Anyone who buys what the GOP is selling about the border. 
    You could shut the border down at this point and they would cry foul...
  • You could shut the border down at this point and they would cry foul...
    Can the border be shut down? I’m asking because I don’t think you understand the ramifications, even if it could be accomplished.
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  • They have an internal loan program.  They can purchase scooters with loans from others but can't get them registered, hence the police crackdown on unregistered scooters.

    Same goes w the phones. To do deliveries the phones they are given will not allow them to download the app so they borrow someone's phone to make the deliveries.

    Now I didn't ask if they were being sharked or not.  

    My issue is that the influx is unsustainable.  We aren't designed to take, as a nation, the amount of people in such a short time.  
    What if repubs agreed and supported Brandon’s immigration funding request? Would the nation be able to handle it?
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