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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,644
    I sometimes wonder how much we have learned through all of this COVID business. One indication that we have learned little to nothing is this (at least in my area): For quite a while, most stores, post offices, and other places put up plexiglass barriers to protect clerks, cashiers and so forth as well as customers. Plexiglass is expensive. And guess what? Almost all of them have come down. What are these people thinking? Humans can be so damn stupid sometimes. It just blows my mind.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,864
    brianlux said:
    I sometimes wonder how much we have learned through all of this COVID business. One indication that we have learned little to nothing is this (at least in my area): For quite a while, most stores, post offices, and other places put up plexiglass barriers to protect clerks, cashiers and so forth as well as customers. Plexiglass is expensive. And guess what? Almost all of them have come down. What are these people thinking? Humans can be so damn stupid sometimes. It just blows my mind.
    I was perplexed when places took plexi down. Restaurants had it above booth benches as well and took it down.
    You paid to install it. Why pay again to remove it?
    Its clear. Just leave it.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    edited August 2023
    Poncier said:
    brianlux said:
    I sometimes wonder how much we have learned through all of this COVID business. One indication that we have learned little to nothing is this (at least in my area): For quite a while, most stores, post offices, and other places put up plexiglass barriers to protect clerks, cashiers and so forth as well as customers. Plexiglass is expensive. And guess what? Almost all of them have come down. What are these people thinking? Humans can be so damn stupid sometimes. It just blows my mind.
    I was perplexed when places took plexi down. Restaurants had it above booth benches as well and took it down.
    You paid to install it. Why pay again to remove it?
    Its clear. Just leave it.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/well/live/coronavirus-restaurants-classrooms-salons.html#:~:text=In%20a%20Massachusetts%20school%20district,with%20ventilation%20improvements%20and%20masking.

    Clear barriers have sprung up at restaurants, nail salons and school classrooms, but most of the time, they do little to stop the spread of the coronavirus.

    We didn't use these barriers before COVID but we still smoke, drink and overeat which is way more detrimental to our health than stupid plastic barriers and COVID.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,286
    JB16057 said:
    Poncier said:
    brianlux said:
    I sometimes wonder how much we have learned through all of this COVID business. One indication that we have learned little to nothing is this (at least in my area): For quite a while, most stores, post offices, and other places put up plexiglass barriers to protect clerks, cashiers and so forth as well as customers. Plexiglass is expensive. And guess what? Almost all of them have come down. What are these people thinking? Humans can be so damn stupid sometimes. It just blows my mind.
    I was perplexed when places took plexi down. Restaurants had it above booth benches as well and took it down.
    You paid to install it. Why pay again to remove it?
    Its clear. Just leave it.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/well/live/coronavirus-restaurants-classrooms-salons.html#:~:text=In%20a%20Massachusetts%20school%20district,with%20ventilation%20improvements%20and%20masking.

    Clear barriers have sprung up at restaurants, nail salons and school classrooms, but most of the time, they do little to stop the spread of the coronavirus.

    We didn't use these barriers before COVID but we still smoke, drink and overeat which is way more detrimental to our health than stupid plastic barriers and COVID.

    you're right, sneeze guards on salad bars and buffets just get in the way. we should demand removal.
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mickeyrat said:
    JB16057 said:
    Poncier said:
    brianlux said:
    I sometimes wonder how much we have learned through all of this COVID business. One indication that we have learned little to nothing is this (at least in my area): For quite a while, most stores, post offices, and other places put up plexiglass barriers to protect clerks, cashiers and so forth as well as customers. Plexiglass is expensive. And guess what? Almost all of them have come down. What are these people thinking? Humans can be so damn stupid sometimes. It just blows my mind.
    I was perplexed when places took plexi down. Restaurants had it above booth benches as well and took it down.
    You paid to install it. Why pay again to remove it?
    Its clear. Just leave it.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/well/live/coronavirus-restaurants-classrooms-salons.html#:~:text=In%20a%20Massachusetts%20school%20district,with%20ventilation%20improvements%20and%20masking.

    Clear barriers have sprung up at restaurants, nail salons and school classrooms, but most of the time, they do little to stop the spread of the coronavirus.

    We didn't use these barriers before COVID but we still smoke, drink and overeat which is way more detrimental to our health than stupid plastic barriers and COVID.

    you're right, sneeze guards on salad bars and buffets just get in the way. we should demand removal.
    Plastic barriers are a placebo that are in place to make you feel better. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,644
    Poncier said:
    brianlux said:
    I sometimes wonder how much we have learned through all of this COVID business. One indication that we have learned little to nothing is this (at least in my area): For quite a while, most stores, post offices, and other places put up plexiglass barriers to protect clerks, cashiers and so forth as well as customers. Plexiglass is expensive. And guess what? Almost all of them have come down. What are these people thinking? Humans can be so damn stupid sometimes. It just blows my mind.
    I was perplexed when places took plexi down. Restaurants had it above booth benches as well and took it down.
    You paid to install it. Why pay again to remove it?
    Its clear. Just leave it.

    Exactly!  I did notice today our P.O. put them back up.  Smart move!
    JB16057 said:
    Poncier said:
    brianlux said:
    I sometimes wonder how much we have learned through all of this COVID business. One indication that we have learned little to nothing is this (at least in my area): For quite a while, most stores, post offices, and other places put up plexiglass barriers to protect clerks, cashiers and so forth as well as customers. Plexiglass is expensive. And guess what? Almost all of them have come down. What are these people thinking? Humans can be so damn stupid sometimes. It just blows my mind.
    I was perplexed when places took plexi down. Restaurants had it above booth benches as well and took it down.
    You paid to install it. Why pay again to remove it?
    Its clear. Just leave it.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/well/live/coronavirus-restaurants-classrooms-salons.html#:~:text=In%20a%20Massachusetts%20school%20district,with%20ventilation%20improvements%20and%20masking.

    Clear barriers have sprung up at restaurants, nail salons and school classrooms, but most of the time, they do little to stop the spread of the coronavirus.

    We didn't use these barriers before COVID but we still smoke, drink and overeat which is way more detrimental to our health than stupid plastic barriers and COVID.

    I would not be so quick to judge the barriers.  They are not all the same anymore that a dirty cloth mask is the same as an new N-95  mask.    And even you admit "most of the time, the do little to stop the virus", which means some of the time they do.  And those that do very likely did it right.

    I don't understand this persistent urge by some to be so averse to protective measures.  Maybe when those who do that talk get older and have to deal more with health issues, that will change.  I'd bet money on it.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,888
    My plastic barrier was removed from my desk a few weeks back.  I'd been voluntarily able to remove it since last year, but I figured no harm no foul, but my work decided to remove all the remaining ones :(
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    I told you..coming soon..
    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/wp-content/uploads/danielle_baker_complaint.pdf
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    Rewrite the history..
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/world/pfizer-dismiss-vaccine-mandates-says-no-australian-was-forced-5450311
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12288649/Scientists-center-Covid-lab-leak-cover-feared-s-China.html
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/03/07/matt-hancock-should-arrested-wilful-misconduct-public-office/
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/lockdown-files/
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,286
    Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,644
    mickeyrat said:
    Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

    :lol:
    Wait, what, M?  You don't want to spend your morning reading bogus banter from fringe and sketchy "news" sources?
    You're not alone.  :smile:

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,772
    brianlux said:
    Poncier said:
    brianlux said:
    I sometimes wonder how much we have learned through all of this COVID business. One indication that we have learned little to nothing is this (at least in my area): For quite a while, most stores, post offices, and other places put up plexiglass barriers to protect clerks, cashiers and so forth as well as customers. Plexiglass is expensive. And guess what? Almost all of them have come down. What are these people thinking? Humans can be so damn stupid sometimes. It just blows my mind.
    I was perplexed when places took plexi down. Restaurants had it above booth benches as well and took it down.
    You paid to install it. Why pay again to remove it?
    Its clear. Just leave it.

    Exactly!  I did notice today our P.O. put them back up.  Smart move!
    JB16057 said:
    Poncier said:
    brianlux said:
    I sometimes wonder how much we have learned through all of this COVID business. One indication that we have learned little to nothing is this (at least in my area): For quite a while, most stores, post offices, and other places put up plexiglass barriers to protect clerks, cashiers and so forth as well as customers. Plexiglass is expensive. And guess what? Almost all of them have come down. What are these people thinking? Humans can be so damn stupid sometimes. It just blows my mind.
    I was perplexed when places took plexi down. Restaurants had it above booth benches as well and took it down.
    You paid to install it. Why pay again to remove it?
    Its clear. Just leave it.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/well/live/coronavirus-restaurants-classrooms-salons.html#:~:text=In%20a%20Massachusetts%20school%20district,with%20ventilation%20improvements%20and%20masking.

    Clear barriers have sprung up at restaurants, nail salons and school classrooms, but most of the time, they do little to stop the spread of the coronavirus.

    We didn't use these barriers before COVID but we still smoke, drink and overeat which is way more detrimental to our health than stupid plastic barriers and COVID.

    I would not be so quick to judge the barriers.  They are not all the same anymore that a dirty cloth mask is the same as an new N-95  mask.    And even you admit "most of the time, the do little to stop the virus", which means some of the time they do.  And those that do very likely did it right.

    I don't understand this persistent urge by some to be so averse to protective measures.  Maybe when those who do that talk get older and have to deal more with health issues, that will change.  I'd bet money on it.


    Very good point. Let’s use the literal interpretation of most-

    “ While “most” literally just means more than half, it is best used to mean something like 60% to 90%.”

    So there have been over 100 million Covid cases in the USA, likely far more when including unreported, but if we use the literal less than half the time for the meaning of most, we are talking about the spread of 50 million cases,

    If we average of the 60 to 90 percent meaning of most, say 75% of the time, we can estimate the barriers would be expected to stop the spread of at least 25 million cases to infected Americans.

    so in the view of a trump world, preventing disease to 25 million Americans, with a barrier that is already in place, is stupid. Is disease that much fun, trumpers?

    Wonder why this country elected trump 7 years ago.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,384
    mickeyrat said:
    Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,772
    Bentleyspop said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah



    Sorry, but the legendary arpeggio-ist spoke this first, before Greta hit the scene





    .
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,644
    Lerxst1992 said:
    brianlux said:
    Poncier said:
    brianlux said:
    I sometimes wonder how much we have learned through all of this COVID business. One indication that we have learned little to nothing is this (at least in my area): For quite a while, most stores, post offices, and other places put up plexiglass barriers to protect clerks, cashiers and so forth as well as customers. Plexiglass is expensive. And guess what? Almost all of them have come down. What are these people thinking? Humans can be so damn stupid sometimes. It just blows my mind.
    I was perplexed when places took plexi down. Restaurants had it above booth benches as well and took it down.
    You paid to install it. Why pay again to remove it?
    Its clear. Just leave it.

    Exactly!  I did notice today our P.O. put them back up.  Smart move!
    JB16057 said:
    Poncier said:
    brianlux said:
    I sometimes wonder how much we have learned through all of this COVID business. One indication that we have learned little to nothing is this (at least in my area): For quite a while, most stores, post offices, and other places put up plexiglass barriers to protect clerks, cashiers and so forth as well as customers. Plexiglass is expensive. And guess what? Almost all of them have come down. What are these people thinking? Humans can be so damn stupid sometimes. It just blows my mind.
    I was perplexed when places took plexi down. Restaurants had it above booth benches as well and took it down.
    You paid to install it. Why pay again to remove it?
    Its clear. Just leave it.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/well/live/coronavirus-restaurants-classrooms-salons.html#:~:text=In%20a%20Massachusetts%20school%20district,with%20ventilation%20improvements%20and%20masking.

    Clear barriers have sprung up at restaurants, nail salons and school classrooms, but most of the time, they do little to stop the spread of the coronavirus.

    We didn't use these barriers before COVID but we still smoke, drink and overeat which is way more detrimental to our health than stupid plastic barriers and COVID.

    I would not be so quick to judge the barriers.  They are not all the same anymore that a dirty cloth mask is the same as an new N-95  mask.    And even you admit "most of the time, the do little to stop the virus", which means some of the time they do.  And those that do very likely did it right.

    I don't understand this persistent urge by some to be so averse to protective measures.  Maybe when those who do that talk get older and have to deal more with health issues, that will change.  I'd bet money on it.


    Very good point. Let’s use the literal interpretation of most-

    “ While “most” literally just means more than half, it is best used to mean something like 60% to 90%.”

    So there have been over 100 million Covid cases in the USA, likely far more when including unreported, but if we use the literal less than half the time for the meaning of most, we are talking about the spread of 50 million cases,

    If we average of the 60 to 90 percent meaning of most, say 75% of the time, we can estimate the barriers would be expected to stop the spread of at least 25 million cases to infected Americans.

    so in the view of a trump world, preventing disease to 25 million Americans, with a barrier that is already in place, is stupid. Is disease that much fun, trumpers?

    Wonder why this country elected trump 7 years ago.

    Maddening, isn't it?!

    And thank you for doing the math.  Well said!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    edited August 2023
    mickeyrat said:
    Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
    So right this time!!!..when you have nothing to say..
    Post edited by 23scidoo on
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    23scidoo said:
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/03/07/matt-hancock-should-arrested-wilful-misconduct-public-office/
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/lockdown-files/
    but the good thing was when he said, when will we make the new variant..lol..
    but why don't we let Rob tell us about this guy??..oh sorry, i forgot he left the thread for specific reasons..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/symptoms-heart-attack-rates-uk-b2393190.html
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..

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