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That'd be nice. Thanks.TJ25487 said:
Oh so now I have to be "more interesting" in my posts of my opinions and they all have to be mine and nobody else's? You must be fun to live with.mrussel1 said:
You can do whatever the fuck you want. But it's more interesting for a person formulate their own opinion rather than posting and cribbing someone else's.TJ25487 said:
Thank you for your stupid fucking opinion on my opinion article. I didn't get the memo that the Ten Club Forum was now only taking independently, three times verified fact based comments and articles. The above article has plenty of facts in it as well as opinions based on the facts as interpreted by the author. Can I please PM you with my submissions for approval before I post them from now on???mrussel1 said:Thanks for a stupid opinion article. These are so helpful. I guess this was just a statistical anomaly and unfortunate coincidence.
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Check your PM's.mrussel1 said:
That'd be nice. Thanks.TJ25487 said:
Oh so now I have to be "more interesting" in my posts of my opinions and they all have to be mine and nobody else's? You must be fun to live with.mrussel1 said:
You can do whatever the fuck you want. But it's more interesting for a person formulate their own opinion rather than posting and cribbing someone else's.TJ25487 said:
Thank you for your stupid fucking opinion on my opinion article. I didn't get the memo that the Ten Club Forum was now only taking independently, three times verified fact based comments and articles. The above article has plenty of facts in it as well as opinions based on the facts as interpreted by the author. Can I please PM you with my submissions for approval before I post them from now on???mrussel1 said:Thanks for a stupid opinion article. These are so helpful. I guess this was just a statistical anomaly and unfortunate coincidence.0 -
TJ25487 said:
Comprehensive study: There are ZERO Amish kids suffering from cancer, diabetes or autism – WHY IS THAT?
The current population of Amish folks in America is quickly approaching 400,000, with the largest concentrations of 90,000 in Pennsylvania and 82,000 in Ohio. Amish have settled in as many as 32 US states, and have an average of 7 kids per family, so the population is growing rapidly. In a brand new, comprehensive study (as of June 2023), presented by Steve Kirsch to the Pennsylvania State Senate, it was calculated that for Amish children, who are strictly 100 percent not vaccinated (fully unvaccinated), typical chronic conditions barely exist, if any at all.
These chronic conditions, also called preventable diseases and disorders, that nearly many vaccinated children and swaths of Americans suffer from, include auto-immune disease, heart disease, diabetes, asthma, ADHD, arthritis, cancer, and of course… wait for it… autism (think ASD and Asperger’s Syndrome).
Expert panelists testified how healthy Amish children are compared to vaccinated American children
Maybe scaring people off vaccines is a good thing, for all those pro-jab-fanatics who think every natural health advocate is a “conspiracy theorist” who spreads disease and disorder by talking about dirty vaccines, vaccine injuries and vaccine-induced deaths. During testimony, expert health advocates shared WHY there’s never been any reports published regarding the health of Amish children in general, saying “After decades of studying the Amish, there’s no report because the report would be devastating to the narrative. It would show that the CDC has been harming the public for decades and saying nothing and burying all the data.”
Dr. Peter McCullough, a top cardiologist in America, with mountains of peer-reviewed, published work, testified before the U.S. Senate and before legislatures throughout the U.S., regarding dangers of vaccines, including the COVID-19 gene-mutating jabs. Speaking of the pandemic, the Amish did NOT lock down, they did NOT put on bacteria-breeding masks, and they most certainly did NOT “vaccinate” for the Wuhan Lab Flu. They ignored every single CDC and Fauci-propagandized mandate and protocol, including the deadly clot shots (because they knew better than to get injected with millions of toxic, sticky spike proteins and graphite nanoparticles).
Guess what happened? The Amish had a survival rate of COVID 90 times higher than the rest of America. Nobody wants to talk about this, except natural health advocates. If you post anything about it on social media, you immediately get banned, blacklisted and labeled “misinformation” or “disinformation.”
Why is it so important to AVOID vaccines like the plague? Just take a look at all the insane ingredients used in vaccines, including preservatives, emulsifiers, adjuvants, genetically modified bacteria, mutated viruses and sterility-causing chemicals. This is all listed right out in the open. No human should ever have any of this injected into their blood and muscle tissue, bypassing the normal defensive shields of the body, including the skin, lungs and digestive tract.
These toxic, sometimes lethal ingredients include mercury (high doses in the multi-dose flu jab), human blood (albumin from abortions), deadly pig viruses called circovirus (in Rotateq Rotavirus jabs), eagle blood, dog blood, infected green monkey kidney cells, sucralose, monosodium glutamate (MSG), cow blood, chicken blood, eggs, dairy, antibiotics, peanut oil (yes, residuals remain, hence all the deathly peanut allergies), latex (from the stoppers on the needles and vials that the needles penetrate), aluminum and much more.
Bookmark Vaccines.news to your favorite independent websites for updates on experimental gene therapy injections that lead directly to vascular clots, hypertension, myocarditis, pericarditis, heart attacks, strokes and death.
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TJ25487 said:Comprehensive study: There are ZERO Amish kids suffering from cancer, diabetes or autism – WHY IS THAT?
The current population of Amish folks in America is quickly approaching 400,000, with the largest concentrations of 90,000 in Pennsylvania and 82,000 in Ohio. Amish have settled in as many as 32 US states, and have an average of 7 kids per family, so the population is growing rapidly. In a brand new, comprehensive study (as of June 2023), presented by Steve Kirsch to the Pennsylvania State Senate, it was calculated that for Amish children, who are strictly 100 percent not vaccinated (fully unvaccinated), typical chronic conditions barely exist, if any at all.
These chronic conditions, also called preventable diseases and disorders, that nearly many vaccinated children and swaths of Americans suffer from, include auto-immune disease, heart disease, diabetes, asthma, ADHD, arthritis, cancer, and of course… wait for it… autism (think ASD and Asperger’s Syndrome).
Expert panelists testified how healthy Amish children are compared to vaccinated American children
Maybe scaring people off vaccines is a good thing, for all those pro-jab-fanatics who think every natural health advocate is a “conspiracy theorist” who spreads disease and disorder by talking about dirty vaccines, vaccine injuries and vaccine-induced deaths. During testimony, expert health advocates shared WHY there’s never been any reports published regarding the health of Amish children in general, saying “After decades of studying the Amish, there’s no report because the report would be devastating to the narrative. It would show that the CDC has been harming the public for decades and saying nothing and burying all the data.”
Dr. Peter McCullough, a top cardiologist in America, with mountains of peer-reviewed, published work, testified before the U.S. Senate and before legislatures throughout the U.S., regarding dangers of vaccines, including the COVID-19 gene-mutating jabs. Speaking of the pandemic, the Amish did NOT lock down, they did NOT put on bacteria-breeding masks, and they most certainly did NOT “vaccinate” for the Wuhan Lab Flu. They ignored every single CDC and Fauci-propagandized mandate and protocol, including the deadly clot shots (because they knew better than to get injected with millions of toxic, sticky spike proteins and graphite nanoparticles).
Guess what happened? The Amish had a survival rate of COVID 90 times higher than the rest of America. Nobody wants to talk about this, except natural health advocates. If you post anything about it on social media, you immediately get banned, blacklisted and labeled “misinformation” or “disinformation.”
Why is it so important to AVOID vaccines like the plague? Just take a look at all the insane ingredients used in vaccines, including preservatives, emulsifiers, adjuvants, genetically modified bacteria, mutated viruses and sterility-causing chemicals. This is all listed right out in the open. No human should ever have any of this injected into their blood and muscle tissue, bypassing the normal defensive shields of the body, including the skin, lungs and digestive tract.
These toxic, sometimes lethal ingredients include mercury (high doses in the multi-dose flu jab), human blood (albumin from abortions), deadly pig viruses called circovirus (in Rotateq Rotavirus jabs), eagle blood, dog blood, infected green monkey kidney cells, sucralose, monosodium glutamate (MSG), cow blood, chicken blood, eggs, dairy, antibiotics, peanut oil (yes, residuals remain, hence all the deathly peanut allergies), latex (from the stoppers on the needles and vials that the needles penetrate), aluminum and much more.
Bookmark Vaccines.news to your favorite independent websites for updates on experimental gene therapy injections that lead directly to vascular clots, hypertension, myocarditis, pericarditis, heart attacks, strokes and death.
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wild stab here, maybe its because Amish kids arent taken to doctors or specialists as a general rule?
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What is the "comprehensive study"? Where is the link to that?TJ25487 said:Comprehensive study: There are ZERO Amish kids suffering from cancer, diabetes or autism – WHY IS THAT?
The current population of Amish folks in America is quickly approaching 400,000, with the largest concentrations of 90,000 in Pennsylvania and 82,000 in Ohio. Amish have settled in as many as 32 US states, and have an average of 7 kids per family, so the population is growing rapidly. In a brand new, comprehensive study (as of June 2023), presented by Steve Kirsch to the Pennsylvania State Senate, it was calculated that for Amish children, who are strictly 100 percent not vaccinated (fully unvaccinated), typical chronic conditions barely exist, if any at all.
These chronic conditions, also called preventable diseases and disorders, that nearly many vaccinated children and swaths of Americans suffer from, include auto-immune disease, heart disease, diabetes, asthma, ADHD, arthritis, cancer, and of course… wait for it… autism (think ASD and Asperger’s Syndrome).
Expert panelists testified how healthy Amish children are compared to vaccinated American children
Maybe scaring people off vaccines is a good thing, for all those pro-jab-fanatics who think every natural health advocate is a “conspiracy theorist” who spreads disease and disorder by talking about dirty vaccines, vaccine injuries and vaccine-induced deaths. During testimony, expert health advocates shared WHY there’s never been any reports published regarding the health of Amish children in general, saying “After decades of studying the Amish, there’s no report because the report would be devastating to the narrative. It would show that the CDC has been harming the public for decades and saying nothing and burying all the data.”
Dr. Peter McCullough, a top cardiologist in America, with mountains of peer-reviewed, published work, testified before the U.S. Senate and before legislatures throughout the U.S., regarding dangers of vaccines, including the COVID-19 gene-mutating jabs. Speaking of the pandemic, the Amish did NOT lock down, they did NOT put on bacteria-breeding masks, and they most certainly did NOT “vaccinate” for the Wuhan Lab Flu. They ignored every single CDC and Fauci-propagandized mandate and protocol, including the deadly clot shots (because they knew better than to get injected with millions of toxic, sticky spike proteins and graphite nanoparticles).
Guess what happened? The Amish had a survival rate of COVID 90 times higher than the rest of America. Nobody wants to talk about this, except natural health advocates. If you post anything about it on social media, you immediately get banned, blacklisted and labeled “misinformation” or “disinformation.”
Why is it so important to AVOID vaccines like the plague? Just take a look at all the insane ingredients used in vaccines, including preservatives, emulsifiers, adjuvants, genetically modified bacteria, mutated viruses and sterility-causing chemicals. This is all listed right out in the open. No human should ever have any of this injected into their blood and muscle tissue, bypassing the normal defensive shields of the body, including the skin, lungs and digestive tract.
These toxic, sometimes lethal ingredients include mercury (high doses in the multi-dose flu jab), human blood (albumin from abortions), deadly pig viruses called circovirus (in Rotateq Rotavirus jabs), eagle blood, dog blood, infected green monkey kidney cells, sucralose, monosodium glutamate (MSG), cow blood, chicken blood, eggs, dairy, antibiotics, peanut oil (yes, residuals remain, hence all the deathly peanut allergies), latex (from the stoppers on the needles and vials that the needles penetrate), aluminum and much more.
Bookmark Vaccines.news to your favorite independent websites for updates on experimental gene therapy injections that lead directly to vascular clots, hypertension, myocarditis, pericarditis, heart attacks, strokes and death.
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It's an Amish study, so can't be linked on the interwebs. Zeke is currently transcribing it onto parchment. It will be ready in October for distribution by horse & buggy to all the local readers.mrussel1 said:
What is the "comprehensive study"? Where is the link to that?TJ25487 said:Comprehensive study: There are ZERO Amish kids suffering from cancer, diabetes or autism – WHY IS THAT?
The current population of Amish folks in America is quickly approaching 400,000, with the largest concentrations of 90,000 in Pennsylvania and 82,000 in Ohio. Amish have settled in as many as 32 US states, and have an average of 7 kids per family, so the population is growing rapidly. In a brand new, comprehensive study (as of June 2023), presented by Steve Kirsch to the Pennsylvania State Senate, it was calculated that for Amish children, who are strictly 100 percent not vaccinated (fully unvaccinated), typical chronic conditions barely exist, if any at all.
These chronic conditions, also called preventable diseases and disorders, that nearly many vaccinated children and swaths of Americans suffer from, include auto-immune disease, heart disease, diabetes, asthma, ADHD, arthritis, cancer, and of course… wait for it… autism (think ASD and Asperger’s Syndrome).
Expert panelists testified how healthy Amish children are compared to vaccinated American children
Maybe scaring people off vaccines is a good thing, for all those pro-jab-fanatics who think every natural health advocate is a “conspiracy theorist” who spreads disease and disorder by talking about dirty vaccines, vaccine injuries and vaccine-induced deaths. During testimony, expert health advocates shared WHY there’s never been any reports published regarding the health of Amish children in general, saying “After decades of studying the Amish, there’s no report because the report would be devastating to the narrative. It would show that the CDC has been harming the public for decades and saying nothing and burying all the data.”
Dr. Peter McCullough, a top cardiologist in America, with mountains of peer-reviewed, published work, testified before the U.S. Senate and before legislatures throughout the U.S., regarding dangers of vaccines, including the COVID-19 gene-mutating jabs. Speaking of the pandemic, the Amish did NOT lock down, they did NOT put on bacteria-breeding masks, and they most certainly did NOT “vaccinate” for the Wuhan Lab Flu. They ignored every single CDC and Fauci-propagandized mandate and protocol, including the deadly clot shots (because they knew better than to get injected with millions of toxic, sticky spike proteins and graphite nanoparticles).
Guess what happened? The Amish had a survival rate of COVID 90 times higher than the rest of America. Nobody wants to talk about this, except natural health advocates. If you post anything about it on social media, you immediately get banned, blacklisted and labeled “misinformation” or “disinformation.”
Why is it so important to AVOID vaccines like the plague? Just take a look at all the insane ingredients used in vaccines, including preservatives, emulsifiers, adjuvants, genetically modified bacteria, mutated viruses and sterility-causing chemicals. This is all listed right out in the open. No human should ever have any of this injected into their blood and muscle tissue, bypassing the normal defensive shields of the body, including the skin, lungs and digestive tract.
These toxic, sometimes lethal ingredients include mercury (high doses in the multi-dose flu jab), human blood (albumin from abortions), deadly pig viruses called circovirus (in Rotateq Rotavirus jabs), eagle blood, dog blood, infected green monkey kidney cells, sucralose, monosodium glutamate (MSG), cow blood, chicken blood, eggs, dairy, antibiotics, peanut oil (yes, residuals remain, hence all the deathly peanut allergies), latex (from the stoppers on the needles and vials that the needles penetrate), aluminum and much more.
Bookmark Vaccines.news to your favorite independent websites for updates on experimental gene therapy injections that lead directly to vascular clots, hypertension, myocarditis, pericarditis, heart attacks, strokes and death.
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That reminds me of that funny Slim Jim commercial.Poncier said:
It's an Amish study, so can't be linked on the interwebs. Zeke is currently transcribing it onto parchment. It will be ready in October for distribution by horse & buggy to all the local readers.mrussel1 said:
What is the "comprehensive study"? Where is the link to that?TJ25487 said:Comprehensive study: There are ZERO Amish kids suffering from cancer, diabetes or autism – WHY IS THAT?
The current population of Amish folks in America is quickly approaching 400,000, with the largest concentrations of 90,000 in Pennsylvania and 82,000 in Ohio. Amish have settled in as many as 32 US states, and have an average of 7 kids per family, so the population is growing rapidly. In a brand new, comprehensive study (as of June 2023), presented by Steve Kirsch to the Pennsylvania State Senate, it was calculated that for Amish children, who are strictly 100 percent not vaccinated (fully unvaccinated), typical chronic conditions barely exist, if any at all.
These chronic conditions, also called preventable diseases and disorders, that nearly many vaccinated children and swaths of Americans suffer from, include auto-immune disease, heart disease, diabetes, asthma, ADHD, arthritis, cancer, and of course… wait for it… autism (think ASD and Asperger’s Syndrome).
Expert panelists testified how healthy Amish children are compared to vaccinated American children
Maybe scaring people off vaccines is a good thing, for all those pro-jab-fanatics who think every natural health advocate is a “conspiracy theorist” who spreads disease and disorder by talking about dirty vaccines, vaccine injuries and vaccine-induced deaths. During testimony, expert health advocates shared WHY there’s never been any reports published regarding the health of Amish children in general, saying “After decades of studying the Amish, there’s no report because the report would be devastating to the narrative. It would show that the CDC has been harming the public for decades and saying nothing and burying all the data.”
Dr. Peter McCullough, a top cardiologist in America, with mountains of peer-reviewed, published work, testified before the U.S. Senate and before legislatures throughout the U.S., regarding dangers of vaccines, including the COVID-19 gene-mutating jabs. Speaking of the pandemic, the Amish did NOT lock down, they did NOT put on bacteria-breeding masks, and they most certainly did NOT “vaccinate” for the Wuhan Lab Flu. They ignored every single CDC and Fauci-propagandized mandate and protocol, including the deadly clot shots (because they knew better than to get injected with millions of toxic, sticky spike proteins and graphite nanoparticles).
Guess what happened? The Amish had a survival rate of COVID 90 times higher than the rest of America. Nobody wants to talk about this, except natural health advocates. If you post anything about it on social media, you immediately get banned, blacklisted and labeled “misinformation” or “disinformation.”
Why is it so important to AVOID vaccines like the plague? Just take a look at all the insane ingredients used in vaccines, including preservatives, emulsifiers, adjuvants, genetically modified bacteria, mutated viruses and sterility-causing chemicals. This is all listed right out in the open. No human should ever have any of this injected into their blood and muscle tissue, bypassing the normal defensive shields of the body, including the skin, lungs and digestive tract.
These toxic, sometimes lethal ingredients include mercury (high doses in the multi-dose flu jab), human blood (albumin from abortions), deadly pig viruses called circovirus (in Rotateq Rotavirus jabs), eagle blood, dog blood, infected green monkey kidney cells, sucralose, monosodium glutamate (MSG), cow blood, chicken blood, eggs, dairy, antibiotics, peanut oil (yes, residuals remain, hence all the deathly peanut allergies), latex (from the stoppers on the needles and vials that the needles penetrate), aluminum and much more.
Bookmark Vaccines.news to your favorite independent websites for updates on experimental gene therapy injections that lead directly to vascular clots, hypertension, myocarditis, pericarditis, heart attacks, strokes and death.
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hilarious....mrussel1 said:
That reminds me of that funny Slim Jim commercial.Poncier said:
It's an Amish study, so can't be linked on the interwebs. Zeke is currently transcribing it onto parchment. It will be ready in October for distribution by horse & buggy to all the local readers.mrussel1 said:
What is the "comprehensive study"? Where is the link to that?TJ25487 said:Comprehensive study: There are ZERO Amish kids suffering from cancer, diabetes or autism – WHY IS THAT?
The current population of Amish folks in America is quickly approaching 400,000, with the largest concentrations of 90,000 in Pennsylvania and 82,000 in Ohio. Amish have settled in as many as 32 US states, and have an average of 7 kids per family, so the population is growing rapidly. In a brand new, comprehensive study (as of June 2023), presented by Steve Kirsch to the Pennsylvania State Senate, it was calculated that for Amish children, who are strictly 100 percent not vaccinated (fully unvaccinated), typical chronic conditions barely exist, if any at all.
These chronic conditions, also called preventable diseases and disorders, that nearly many vaccinated children and swaths of Americans suffer from, include auto-immune disease, heart disease, diabetes, asthma, ADHD, arthritis, cancer, and of course… wait for it… autism (think ASD and Asperger’s Syndrome).
Expert panelists testified how healthy Amish children are compared to vaccinated American children
Maybe scaring people off vaccines is a good thing, for all those pro-jab-fanatics who think every natural health advocate is a “conspiracy theorist” who spreads disease and disorder by talking about dirty vaccines, vaccine injuries and vaccine-induced deaths. During testimony, expert health advocates shared WHY there’s never been any reports published regarding the health of Amish children in general, saying “After decades of studying the Amish, there’s no report because the report would be devastating to the narrative. It would show that the CDC has been harming the public for decades and saying nothing and burying all the data.”
Dr. Peter McCullough, a top cardiologist in America, with mountains of peer-reviewed, published work, testified before the U.S. Senate and before legislatures throughout the U.S., regarding dangers of vaccines, including the COVID-19 gene-mutating jabs. Speaking of the pandemic, the Amish did NOT lock down, they did NOT put on bacteria-breeding masks, and they most certainly did NOT “vaccinate” for the Wuhan Lab Flu. They ignored every single CDC and Fauci-propagandized mandate and protocol, including the deadly clot shots (because they knew better than to get injected with millions of toxic, sticky spike proteins and graphite nanoparticles).
Guess what happened? The Amish had a survival rate of COVID 90 times higher than the rest of America. Nobody wants to talk about this, except natural health advocates. If you post anything about it on social media, you immediately get banned, blacklisted and labeled “misinformation” or “disinformation.”
Why is it so important to AVOID vaccines like the plague? Just take a look at all the insane ingredients used in vaccines, including preservatives, emulsifiers, adjuvants, genetically modified bacteria, mutated viruses and sterility-causing chemicals. This is all listed right out in the open. No human should ever have any of this injected into their blood and muscle tissue, bypassing the normal defensive shields of the body, including the skin, lungs and digestive tract.
These toxic, sometimes lethal ingredients include mercury (high doses in the multi-dose flu jab), human blood (albumin from abortions), deadly pig viruses called circovirus (in Rotateq Rotavirus jabs), eagle blood, dog blood, infected green monkey kidney cells, sucralose, monosodium glutamate (MSG), cow blood, chicken blood, eggs, dairy, antibiotics, peanut oil (yes, residuals remain, hence all the deathly peanut allergies), latex (from the stoppers on the needles and vials that the needles penetrate), aluminum and much more.
Bookmark Vaccines.news to your favorite independent websites for updates on experimental gene therapy injections that lead directly to vascular clots, hypertension, myocarditis, pericarditis, heart attacks, strokes and death.
Sources for this article include:
https://youtu.be/TL1lM9atwXY
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I’m not against the vax. I got the first 2, but probably won’t bother with any more. Reading some of the following comments got me thinking.mrussel1 said:
I bet few people are vaccinated right now. It wears out of your system. I haven't had a vaccine in almost a year, so I would not be surprised to get it. But at this point, the strains have mutated into something far less deadly.JB16057 said:
From my personal experience, the only people I know that have gotten COVID in the last few months are the heavily vaccinated and boosted.mrussel1 said:
Oh right.. we're "shedding" something? Do I have that correct?JB16057 said:
Actually, the greatest risk comes from the vaccinated.Bentleyspop said:
A girl that works for me called me two days ago and she told me she needed to work from home this week because she tested positive. She felt fine but only tested because her neighbors tested positive and she was around them, so she did the responsible thing. She hadn't received a vaccine since last fall. So this isn't unusual.
81% of Americans have received at least one dose at some point, so it stands to reason that most people you talk to have received a vaccine at some point. But they are no more protected (or barely) than someone who never got one. This is all just logic here.
But I don’t think this was a pandemic of the unvaccinated, and I think it played a much smaller role than we thought towards ending this and moving on.
We know Covid deaths were inflated. What we don’t know is how much. Couldn’t be a statistically insignificant amount or could be very large. I say we know to at least some extent because of some of the reported cases. Local news in 2020 reported 2 people were shot and killed, but since they had Covid it was counted as a Covid death. So clearly some fudging of the numbers happened.
We also know the majority of deaths were elderly with other conditions. How many of those would have died without Covid? I have no idea, but I know the number isn’t zero.
I kept hearing there was an increase in total deaths that proved Covid was killing millions. But that number has stayed relatively the same for 2021 and 2022. So how does Covid account for the same death increase for the last 3 years? I don’t see how it can. If the cause was Covid, wouldn’t the number have gone down by now? Possibly even lower than pre-pandemic numbers since so many elderly died in 2020 that means they wouldn’t have been alive to die a year later. But that’s not the case.Population growing hit a spike from about ‘45 to ‘55, and those people are all 70+ years now, so makes sense there’s just a natural spike in deaths too. Which explains why that spike is still there. Mostly elderly people who were already sick, and some happened to have Covid too.
Like I said, I got the vax, I masked when it was required. But hindsight 20/20, I don’t think any of that made much of a difference. I don’t think there as any conspiracy to make it sound worse or ruin the economy, everyone was just winging it. But Kinda sucks we shut down schools for a year and ruined so many businesses.Post edited by mace1229 on0 -
Mace - this chart doesn't necessarily disprove your statement that COVID deaths were inflated, but it does disprove any statement that deaths did not spike, coincidentally, in 2020 and 2021. If your anecdote about a person being shot and attributed to COVID was pervasive and material, then we would not see this huge spike in deaths in 2020. People are shot every single day, before and after the Pandemic, so that would be washed out in the data. But you see this clear spike, and then a second jump in 2021, which we all knew because the second wave was bad as well. However you then see the drop in 2022, which conflicts with your statement above.mace1229 said:
I’m not against the vax. I got the first 2, but probably won’t bother with any more. Reading some of the following comments got me thinking.mrussel1 said:
I bet few people are vaccinated right now. It wears out of your system. I haven't had a vaccine in almost a year, so I would not be surprised to get it. But at this point, the strains have mutated into something far less deadly.JB16057 said:
From my personal experience, the only people I know that have gotten COVID in the last few months are the heavily vaccinated and boosted.mrussel1 said:
Oh right.. we're "shedding" something? Do I have that correct?JB16057 said:
Actually, the greatest risk comes from the vaccinated.Bentleyspop said:
A girl that works for me called me two days ago and she told me she needed to work from home this week because she tested positive. She felt fine but only tested because her neighbors tested positive and she was around them, so she did the responsible thing. She hadn't received a vaccine since last fall. So this isn't unusual.
81% of Americans have received at least one dose at some point, so it stands to reason that most people you talk to have received a vaccine at some point. But they are no more protected (or barely) than someone who never got one. This is all just logic here.
But I don’t think this was a pandemic of the unvaccinated, and I think it played a much smaller role than we thought towards ending this and moving on.
We know Covid deaths were inflated. What we don’t know is how much. Couldn’t be a statistically insignificant amount or could be very large. I say we know to at least some extent because of some of the reported cases. Local news in 2020 reported 2 people were shot and killed, but since they had Covid it was counted as a Covid death. So clearly some fudging of the numbers happened.
We also know the majority of deaths were elderly with other conditions. How many of those would have died without Covid? I have no idea, but I know the number isn’t zero.
I kept hearing there was an increase in total deaths that proved Covid was killing millions. But that number has stayed relatively the same for 2021 and 2022. So how does Covid account for the same death increase for the last 3 years? I don’t see how it can. If the cause was Covid, wouldn’t the number have gone down by now? Possibly even lower than pre-pandemic numbers since so many elderly died in 2020 that means they wouldn’t have been alive to die a year later. But that’s not the case.Population growing hit a spike from about ‘45 to ‘55, and those people are all 70+ years now, so makes sense there’s just a natural spike in deaths too. Which explains why that spike is still there. Mostly elderly people who were already sick, and some happened to have Covid too.
Like I said, I got the vax, I masked when it was required. But hindsight 20/20, I don’t think any of that made much of a difference. I don’t think there as any conspiracy to make it sound worse or ruin the economy, everyone was just winging it. But Kinda sucks we shut down schools for a year and ruined so many businesses.
So while I appreciate you taking the time on a thoughtful response, it seems like the basis of your statement (inflated deaths and 2022 high death rates) appears to be untrue. No it didn't come down to 2019 levels and I don't know why yet, but it's clearly down. Certainly an aging population is one potential cause. But an aging population would have a gradual increase, not what we see here.
Regarding your statement about schools, I don't know that anyone that is reasonable thought that COVID was highly dangerous for children themselves. The reason you shut down the schools is because the teachers and administrators could be older and have high co-morbidities. And then many, many families have older relatives living with them, particularly the under privileged population. So it was about protecting broader society, not simply the kids.
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Link to see the chart better. https://www.statista.com/statistics/195920/number-of-deaths-in-the-united-states-since-1990/0
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I saw similar data, I think it was on the cdc website. Was just plain numbers and not a graph. The 2021 numbers are a lot closer to 2020 than 2019. And if you have a full graph, not one that that’s at 2, that peak at 2020 is even closer to that in 2021. The whole point of a broken graph like that is to make marginal difference appear big when they are not. Total deaths for 2020, 2021 and 2022 are very similar. Yes, they were the highest in 2020, but they have not even come close timing back down to 2019 numbers.mrussel1 said:Link to see the chart better. https://www.statista.com/statistics/195920/number-of-deaths-in-the-united-states-since-1990/
So either Covid is just as deadly now as it was then even with the vaccine and we’ve just accepted it and moved on, or there’s another reason for the spike.Post edited by mace1229 on0 -
The graph is linear, not logarithmic scale, so I don't think it's misleading. Yes, the scale is very small, but considering until 2020 the increase per year over the last decade was less than 10 basis points on average, and then in 2020 is jumps by 100 basis points is pretty significant and clear that there was an "event" of some sort. It then drops by 20 bips in 2022. So something normalized, but not back to historical averages.mace1229 said:
I saw similar data, I think it was on the cdc website. Was just plain numbers and not a graph. The 2021 numbers are a lot closer to 2020 than 2019. And if you have a full graph, not one that that’s at 2, that peak at 2020 is even closer to that in 2021. The whole point of a broken graph like that is to make marginal difference appear big when they are not. Total deaths for 2020, 2021 and 2022 are very similar. Yes, they were the highest in 2020, but they have not even come close timing back down to 2019 numbers.mrussel1 said:Link to see the chart better. https://www.statista.com/statistics/195920/number-of-deaths-in-the-united-states-since-1990/
So either Covid is just as deadly now as it was then even with the vaccine and we’ve just accepted it and moved on, or there’s another reason for the spike.
I thought more about 2022 and while I haven't looked at the numbers, we all know that COVID extended well into the middle of 2022. Remember MFC caught it and missed the Oakland shows. So it stands to reason that were continued deaths, but not at the rate of 2021. But again, I have not looked into that. But my guess is when we look at 2023, it will have dropped by another 20+ bps.0 -
mrussel1 said:
The graph is linear, not logarithmic scale, so I don't think it's misleading. Yes, the scale is very small, but considering until 2020 the increase per year over the last decade was less than 10 basis points on average, and then in 2020 is jumps by 100 basis points is pretty significant and clear that there was an "event" of some sort. It then drops by 20 bips in 2022. So something normalized, but not back to historical averages.mace1229 said:
I saw similar data, I think it was on the cdc website. Was just plain numbers and not a graph. The 2021 numbers are a lot closer to 2020 than 2019. And if you have a full graph, not one that that’s at 2, that peak at 2020 is even closer to that in 2021. The whole point of a broken graph like that is to make marginal difference appear big when they are not. Total deaths for 2020, 2021 and 2022 are very similar. Yes, they were the highest in 2020, but they have not even come close timing back down to 2019 numbers.mrussel1 said:Link to see the chart better. https://www.statista.com/statistics/195920/number-of-deaths-in-the-united-states-since-1990/
So either Covid is just as deadly now as it was then even with the vaccine and we’ve just accepted it and moved on, or there’s another reason for the spike.
I thought more about 2022 and while I haven't looked at the numbers, we all know that COVID extended well into the middle of 2022. Remember MFC caught it and missed the Oakland shows. So it stands to reason that were continued deaths, but not at the rate of 2021. But again, I have not looked into that. But my guess is when we look at 2023, it will have dropped by another 20+ bps.Sometimes doesn’t anecdotal data tell us essential information?
outside of wartime, how often in recent history have we needed ice cream trucks brought into the largest American city to store all the deceased patients?That did happen, didn’t it?0 -
Oh snap.mrussel1 said:
That reminds me of that funny Slim Jim commercial.Poncier said:
It's an Amish study, so can't be linked on the interwebs. Zeke is currently transcribing it onto parchment. It will be ready in October for distribution by horse & buggy to all the local readers.mrussel1 said:
What is the "comprehensive study"? Where is the link to that?TJ25487 said:Comprehensive study: There are ZERO Amish kids suffering from cancer, diabetes or autism – WHY IS THAT?
The current population of Amish folks in America is quickly approaching 400,000, with the largest concentrations of 90,000 in Pennsylvania and 82,000 in Ohio. Amish have settled in as many as 32 US states, and have an average of 7 kids per family, so the population is growing rapidly. In a brand new, comprehensive study (as of June 2023), presented by Steve Kirsch to the Pennsylvania State Senate, it was calculated that for Amish children, who are strictly 100 percent not vaccinated (fully unvaccinated), typical chronic conditions barely exist, if any at all.
These chronic conditions, also called preventable diseases and disorders, that nearly many vaccinated children and swaths of Americans suffer from, include auto-immune disease, heart disease, diabetes, asthma, ADHD, arthritis, cancer, and of course… wait for it… autism (think ASD and Asperger’s Syndrome).
Expert panelists testified how healthy Amish children are compared to vaccinated American children
Maybe scaring people off vaccines is a good thing, for all those pro-jab-fanatics who think every natural health advocate is a “conspiracy theorist” who spreads disease and disorder by talking about dirty vaccines, vaccine injuries and vaccine-induced deaths. During testimony, expert health advocates shared WHY there’s never been any reports published regarding the health of Amish children in general, saying “After decades of studying the Amish, there’s no report because the report would be devastating to the narrative. It would show that the CDC has been harming the public for decades and saying nothing and burying all the data.”
Dr. Peter McCullough, a top cardiologist in America, with mountains of peer-reviewed, published work, testified before the U.S. Senate and before legislatures throughout the U.S., regarding dangers of vaccines, including the COVID-19 gene-mutating jabs. Speaking of the pandemic, the Amish did NOT lock down, they did NOT put on bacteria-breeding masks, and they most certainly did NOT “vaccinate” for the Wuhan Lab Flu. They ignored every single CDC and Fauci-propagandized mandate and protocol, including the deadly clot shots (because they knew better than to get injected with millions of toxic, sticky spike proteins and graphite nanoparticles).
Guess what happened? The Amish had a survival rate of COVID 90 times higher than the rest of America. Nobody wants to talk about this, except natural health advocates. If you post anything about it on social media, you immediately get banned, blacklisted and labeled “misinformation” or “disinformation.”
Why is it so important to AVOID vaccines like the plague? Just take a look at all the insane ingredients used in vaccines, including preservatives, emulsifiers, adjuvants, genetically modified bacteria, mutated viruses and sterility-causing chemicals. This is all listed right out in the open. No human should ever have any of this injected into their blood and muscle tissue, bypassing the normal defensive shields of the body, including the skin, lungs and digestive tract.
These toxic, sometimes lethal ingredients include mercury (high doses in the multi-dose flu jab), human blood (albumin from abortions), deadly pig viruses called circovirus (in Rotateq Rotavirus jabs), eagle blood, dog blood, infected green monkey kidney cells, sucralose, monosodium glutamate (MSG), cow blood, chicken blood, eggs, dairy, antibiotics, peanut oil (yes, residuals remain, hence all the deathly peanut allergies), latex (from the stoppers on the needles and vials that the needles penetrate), aluminum and much more.
Bookmark Vaccines.news to your favorite independent websites for updates on experimental gene therapy injections that lead directly to vascular clots, hypertension, myocarditis, pericarditis, heart attacks, strokes and death.
Sources for this article include:
https://youtu.be/TL1lM9atwXY
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90 times higher? Maybe not.TJ25487 said:Comprehensive study: There are ZERO Amish kids suffering from cancer, diabetes or autism – WHY IS THAT?
The current population of Amish folks in America is quickly approaching 400,000, with the largest concentrations of 90,000 in Pennsylvania and 82,000 in Ohio. Amish have settled in as many as 32 US states, and have an average of 7 kids per family, so the population is growing rapidly. In a brand new, comprehensive study (as of June 2023), presented by Steve Kirsch to the Pennsylvania State Senate, it was calculated that for Amish children, who are strictly 100 percent not vaccinated (fully unvaccinated), typical chronic conditions barely exist, if any at all.
These chronic conditions, also called preventable diseases and disorders, that nearly many vaccinated children and swaths of Americans suffer from, include auto-immune disease, heart disease, diabetes, asthma, ADHD, arthritis, cancer, and of course… wait for it… autism (think ASD and Asperger’s Syndrome).
Expert panelists testified how healthy Amish children are compared to vaccinated American children
Maybe scaring people off vaccines is a good thing, for all those pro-jab-fanatics who think every natural health advocate is a “conspiracy theorist” who spreads disease and disorder by talking about dirty vaccines, vaccine injuries and vaccine-induced deaths. During testimony, expert health advocates shared WHY there’s never been any reports published regarding the health of Amish children in general, saying “After decades of studying the Amish, there’s no report because the report would be devastating to the narrative. It would show that the CDC has been harming the public for decades and saying nothing and burying all the data.”
Dr. Peter McCullough, a top cardiologist in America, with mountains of peer-reviewed, published work, testified before the U.S. Senate and before legislatures throughout the U.S., regarding dangers of vaccines, including the COVID-19 gene-mutating jabs. Speaking of the pandemic, the Amish did NOT lock down, they did NOT put on bacteria-breeding masks, and they most certainly did NOT “vaccinate” for the Wuhan Lab Flu. They ignored every single CDC and Fauci-propagandized mandate and protocol, including the deadly clot shots (because they knew better than to get injected with millions of toxic, sticky spike proteins and graphite nanoparticles).
Guess what happened? The Amish had a survival rate of COVID 90 times higher than the rest of America. Nobody wants to talk about this, except natural health advocates. If you post anything about it on social media, you immediately get banned, blacklisted and labeled “misinformation” or “disinformation.”
Why is it so important to AVOID vaccines like the plague? Just take a look at all the insane ingredients used in vaccines, including preservatives, emulsifiers, adjuvants, genetically modified bacteria, mutated viruses and sterility-causing chemicals. This is all listed right out in the open. No human should ever have any of this injected into their blood and muscle tissue, bypassing the normal defensive shields of the body, including the skin, lungs and digestive tract.
These toxic, sometimes lethal ingredients include mercury (high doses in the multi-dose flu jab), human blood (albumin from abortions), deadly pig viruses called circovirus (in Rotateq Rotavirus jabs), eagle blood, dog blood, infected green monkey kidney cells, sucralose, monosodium glutamate (MSG), cow blood, chicken blood, eggs, dairy, antibiotics, peanut oil (yes, residuals remain, hence all the deathly peanut allergies), latex (from the stoppers on the needles and vials that the needles penetrate), aluminum and much more.
Bookmark Vaccines.news to your favorite independent websites for updates on experimental gene therapy injections that lead directly to vascular clots, hypertension, myocarditis, pericarditis, heart attacks, strokes and death.
Sources for this article include:
New research from West Virginia University sociologists suggests this face-to-face interaction, coupled with a distrust in preventative medicine, led to “excess deaths” among the Amish population in 2020.
The death rate for that year soared above the baseline average from 2015 to 2019, with the largest spike – 125% - occurring in November.
Researchers, led by Rachel Stein, associate professor of sociology, analyzed obituary information published in an Amish/Mennonite newspaper to examine excess death among this segment of the population in 2020. Their results are published in the Journal of Religion and Health.
“By taking multiple years of historical data, we can create an average rate of death,” explained co-author Katie Corcoran, associate professor of sociology. “For 2020, when the pandemic started, we identified how much extra deaths occurred on top of that average. We call that excess deaths.”
The team emphasized that these deaths may or may not be directly related to COVID-19; however, the excess death rates among the Amish/Mennonites mirrored the general COVID-19 infection waves in the United States. Researchers did not access official death certificates (which do not indicate religion/faith) and obituaries usually lacked the cause of death.
https://wvutoday.wvu.edu/stories/2021/06/22/death-and-religion-excess-deaths-sweep-through-amish-and-mennonite-communities-during-covid-19-pandemic0 -
Thank you!!TJ25487 said:New York Times and CDC now reluctantly admit that covid deaths were over-counted, pandemic was over-hypedBy Ethan Huff // Jul 20, 2023
For years, the establishment has been telling us all that the official story surrounding the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) is true, and that anything to the contrary is just a "conspiracy theory." Now, all of a sudden, both The New York Times and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) are changing the script.Seemingly out of nowhere, the Times is calling out the CDC for overcounting covid deaths while overhyping the so-called "pandemic," which in and of itself appears to have been a couple normal flu seasons rebranded as something bigger and scarier than it actually was.
In its latest reporting, the Times suggests that the official data on the CDC's website is "probably an exaggeration" in that "it includes some people who had a virus when they died even though it was not the underlying cause of death" – in other words, everything we have been saying all along is truer than ever.
The CDC itself admits nearly one third of all official covid deaths as of late fall into the erroneous category for this very reason. One third of the people who have been logged as more covid death statistics died with a positive covid test rather than from covid itself.
(Related: Did you know that the CDC is a private corporation falsely referred to as a public health agency?)
Nearly half of all "covid" hospitalizations had nothing to do with covid
Another little tidbit of truth that came from The Atlantic has to do with pediatric hospitalizations for covid, which were also wildly overblown.
Two separate studies, that report explains, found that 40 to 45 percent of covid hospitalizations had nothing to do with covid. Sure, the patients may have tested positive for it, but a closer look reveals that nearly one in two of them were admitted for some other reason, including cancer treatment or psychiatric episode.
The Atlantic published a pretty straightforward title for its article about this: "Our Most Reliable Pandemic Number Is Losing Meaning." Ouch.
It turns out that next to nothing that was officially presented to the masses during covid was accurate. So much of the plandemic was a lie that it is difficult to find anything that was honest and true from that ugly and unsettling era of medical fascism.
While the scamdemic itself is over, the hundreds of millions of people who got "vaccinated" for it still have all those spike proteins and other proteins floating around in their systems, while all the while their DNA is being reprogrammed as part of the gene therapy component.
The jabs were just as much a lie as the covid death numbers that preceded them, in other words. The world was hoodwinked to an astounding degree by the globalists behind the covid hoax, and the fallout from it is still underway.
"It is excellent that the truth is being revealed, finally," someone wrote on Twitter in response to these latest revelations. "Many of us knew the counts were incorrect, inflated, bogus ... all along."
"Died in a car accident? No problem! It was covid," wrote another about a very real type of scenario that occurred on the regular throughout the plandemic as the authorities tried to scare people with fake covid death numbers.
"... and the rest where deaths were covid was the 'last straw' infection in already dying people," suggested another about how many "covid" deaths were just deaths from old age and other natural causes.
"That's why the covidians stopped quoting death numbers months and months ago," wrote another.
The latest news about the covid scam can be found at Plague.info.
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Exactly what i said some days ago..JB16057 said:
There are multiple opinion pieces posted to this message board every day. You only call out the ones that don't fit your opinion.mrussel1 said:
You can do whatever the fuck you want. But it's more interesting for a person formulate their own opinion rather than posting and cribbing someone else's.TJ25487 said:
Thank you for your stupid fucking opinion on my opinion article. I didn't get the memo that the Ten Club Forum was now only taking independently, three times verified fact based comments and articles. The above article has plenty of facts in it as well as opinions based on the facts as interpreted by the author. Can I please PM you with my submissions for approval before I post them from now on???mrussel1 said:Thanks for a stupid opinion article. These are so helpful. I guess this was just a statistical anomaly and unfortunate coincidence.Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
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Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
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Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
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Is it science enough for you??
https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-die-after-covid-shot/
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Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
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