Viruses / Vaccines 2

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benjs said:

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On the other news, 36% increase od deathes in USA and Britain the last 3 years..

Source? 

BlackRock, Inc.

mrussel1 said:

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benjs said:

23scidoo said:

769 atheletes have died between March 2021-March 2022..

There’s a pretty famous expression in English… “you can’t compare one thing”. What do I care about 769 athletes dying in a year if I don’t know what’s typical? 

The last one..

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/basketball-player-scar-cabrera-adames-who-had-blamed-covid-vaccine-for-rare-heart-condition-dies-of-heart-attack/photostory/101270988.cms?from=mdr

This is only proof that someone died of a MI. 
I have myocarditis too. I was diagnosed at about 23 and gave had to treat it since then.  I also played college baseball,  along with wrestling all through high school.  So this article proves nothing other than he was unfortunate..  

cblock4life said:

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mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

benjs said:

23scidoo said:

769 atheletes have died between March 2021-March 2022..

There’s a pretty famous expression in English… “you can’t compare one thing”. What do I care about 769 athletes dying in a year if I don’t know what’s typical? 

The last one..

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/basketball-player-scar-cabrera-adames-who-had-blamed-covid-vaccine-for-rare-heart-condition-dies-of-heart-attack/photostory/101270988.cms?from=mdr

This is only proof that someone died of a MI. 
I have myocarditis too. I was diagnosed at about 23 and gave had to treat it since then.  I also played college baseball,  along with wrestling all through high school.  So this article proves nothing other than he was unfortunate..  

we often hear about young athletes (unfortunately) suffering from heart conditions during activities, even before covid.  

We should concentrate on getting high school students the proper pre-physicals to help avoid cardiac issues along with baseline heart exams.  Yes, lots of money but if possible should be implemented. 

These issues have gone on for years with NO connection to covid 19. 

Feels like “Groundhog Day” around here sometimes.  

cblock4life said:

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mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

benjs said:

23scidoo said:

769 atheletes have died between March 2021-March 2022..

There’s a pretty famous expression in English… “you can’t compare one thing”. What do I care about 769 athletes dying in a year if I don’t know what’s typical? 

The last one..

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/basketball-player-scar-cabrera-adames-who-had-blamed-covid-vaccine-for-rare-heart-condition-dies-of-heart-attack/photostory/101270988.cms?from=mdr

This is only proof that someone died of a MI. 
I have myocarditis too. I was diagnosed at about 23 and gave had to treat it since then.  I also played college baseball,  along with wrestling all through high school.  So this article proves nothing other than he was unfortunate..  

we often hear about young athletes (unfortunately) suffering from heart conditions during activities, even before covid.  

We should concentrate on getting high school students the proper pre-physicals to help avoid cardiac issues along with baseline heart exams.  Yes, lots of money but if possible should be implemented. 

These issues have gone on for years with NO connection to covid 19. 

Feels like “Groundhog Day” around here sometimes.  

No Surge in Athlete Deaths, Contrary to Widespread Anti-Vaccine Claims

“There is no uptick in sudden cardiac arrest or death in athletes due to COVID-19 or from COVID vaccinations. This is total misinformation,” Dr. Jonathan Drezner told us in an emailed statement. Drezner is the director of the UW Medicine Center for Sports Cardiology at the University of Washington, editor in chief of the British Journal of Sports Medicine, and a team physician for the Seattle Seahawks, the OL Reign soccer team and the University of Washington Huskies.

More than 2,000 children and adolescents in the U.S. die from sudden cardiac arrest every year, according to the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, and two-thirds of the deaths “occur during exercise or activity.” Among young athletes, sudden cardiac arrest is the leading cause of death, according to CHOP.

Drezner said his center monitors “all cases and all causes” of sudden cardiac arrest or death in athletes by working with the National Center for Catastrophic Sport Injury Research at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. “[T]here is no change,” he said.

The National Center for Catastrophic Sport Injury Research catalogs injuries for high school and college athletes, and its most recent report covers the 2020-21 school year. It shows that 21 athletes died while playing their sport that year.

COVID-19 vaccines were available to everyone 16 and over in the U.S. by April 2021, so the overlap between the period covered by the report and the period in which vaccines were widely available to young people was relatively small. We reached out to the center to find out if the data collected for the 2021-2022 school year has indicated any increase in deaths.

The center’s director, Dr. Kristen Kucera, told us that so far, “the numbers are the same and it’s actually fewer than we captured in 2018-19.”

For context, the center reported 19 deaths in 2019-20, 25 deaths in 2018-19 and 21 deathsin 2017-18.

Similarly, Dr. Robert Cantu, the center’s medical director, told us in an emailed statement that he’s seen no increase in athlete deaths and called the claims “misinformation.”

“The statistics don’t bear out that there’s been an increase in events among athletes,” Dr. Curt Daniels, professor of cardiovascular medicine and director of the sports cardiology program at The Ohio State University College of Medicine, told us in a phone interview.”

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/01/scicheck-no-surge-in-athlete-deaths-contrary-to-widespread-anti-vaccine-claims/

23scidoo said:

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cblock4life said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

benjs said:

23scidoo said:

769 atheletes have died between March 2021-March 2022..

There’s a pretty famous expression in English… “you can’t compare one thing”. What do I care about 769 athletes dying in a year if I don’t know what’s typical? 

The last one..

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/basketball-player-scar-cabrera-adames-who-had-blamed-covid-vaccine-for-rare-heart-condition-dies-of-heart-attack/photostory/101270988.cms?from=mdr

This is only proof that someone died of a MI. 
I have myocarditis too. I was diagnosed at about 23 and gave had to treat it since then.  I also played college baseball,  along with wrestling all through high school.  So this article proves nothing other than he was unfortunate..  

we often hear about young athletes (unfortunately) suffering from heart conditions during activities, even before covid.  

We should concentrate on getting high school students the proper pre-physicals to help avoid cardiac issues along with baseline heart exams.  Yes, lots of money but if possible should be implemented. 

These issues have gone on for years with NO connection to covid 19. 

Feels like “Groundhog Day” around here sometimes.  

“Groundhog Day”for sure..but let me ask you really..did we hear about athletes died so offen before covid??..i can't remember that..

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/22892548/jo-lindner-death-updates-bodybuilding-joesthetics-live/

nicknyr15 said:

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Merkin Baller said:

No Surge in Athlete Deaths, Contrary to Widespread Anti-Vaccine Claims

“There is no uptick in sudden cardiac arrest or death in athletes due to COVID-19 or from COVID vaccinations. This is total misinformation,” Dr. Jonathan Drezner told us in an emailed statement. Drezner is the director of the UW Medicine Center for Sports Cardiology at the University of Washington, editor in chief of the British Journal of Sports Medicine, and a team physician for the Seattle Seahawks, the OL Reign soccer team and the University of Washington Huskies.

More than 2,000 children and adolescents in the U.S. die from sudden cardiac arrest every year, according to the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, and two-thirds of the deaths “occur during exercise or activity.” Among young athletes, sudden cardiac arrest is the leading cause of death, according to CHOP.

Drezner said his center monitors “all cases and all causes” of sudden cardiac arrest or death in athletes by working with the National Center for Catastrophic Sport Injury Research at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. “[T]here is no change,” he said.

The National Center for Catastrophic Sport Injury Research catalogs injuries for high school and college athletes, and its most recent report covers the 2020-21 school year. It shows that 21 athletes died while playing their sport that year.

COVID-19 vaccines were available to everyone 16 and over in the U.S. by April 2021, so the overlap between the period covered by the report and the period in which vaccines were widely available to young people was relatively small. We reached out to the center to find out if the data collected for the 2021-2022 school year has indicated any increase in deaths.

The center’s director, Dr. Kristen Kucera, told us that so far, “the numbers are the same and it’s actually fewer than we captured in 2018-19.”

For context, the center reported 19 deaths in 2019-20, 25 deaths in 2018-19 and 21 deathsin 2017-18.

Similarly, Dr. Robert Cantu, the center’s medical director, told us in an emailed statement that he’s seen no increase in athlete deaths and called the claims “misinformation.”

“The statistics don’t bear out that there’s been an increase in events among athletes,” Dr. Curt Daniels, professor of cardiovascular medicine and director of the sports cardiology program at The Ohio State University College of Medicine, told us in a phone interview.”

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/01/scicheck-no-surge-in-athlete-deaths-contrary-to-widespread-anti-vaccine-claims/

I wonder how long these conversations will go on. Was everything handled perfectly during the pandemic? No. Of course not. But holy shit. It’s amazing this thread is still going.  

josevolution said:

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23scidoo said:

cblock4life said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

benjs said:

23scidoo said:

769 atheletes have died between March 2021-March 2022..

There’s a pretty famous expression in English… “you can’t compare one thing”. What do I care about 769 athletes dying in a year if I don’t know what’s typical? 

The last one..

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/basketball-player-scar-cabrera-adames-who-had-blamed-covid-vaccine-for-rare-heart-condition-dies-of-heart-attack/photostory/101270988.cms?from=mdr

This is only proof that someone died of a MI. 
I have myocarditis too. I was diagnosed at about 23 and gave had to treat it since then.  I also played college baseball,  along with wrestling all through high school.  So this article proves nothing other than he was unfortunate..  

we often hear about young athletes (unfortunately) suffering from heart conditions during activities, even before covid.  

We should concentrate on getting high school students the proper pre-physicals to help avoid cardiac issues along with baseline heart exams.  Yes, lots of money but if possible should be implemented. 

These issues have gone on for years with NO connection to covid 19. 

Feels like “Groundhog Day” around here sometimes.  

“Groundhog Day”for sure..but let me ask you really..did we hear about athletes died so offen before covid??..i can't remember that..

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/22892548/jo-lindner-death-updates-bodybuilding-joesthetics-live/

Damn dude your blaming the vaccine for this guys death 😂😂😂 but not the testosterone replacement procedure! What ever your smoking you should stop 

cblock4life said:

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23scidoo said:

cblock4life said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

benjs said:

23scidoo said:

769 atheletes have died between March 2021-March 2022..

There’s a pretty famous expression in English… “you can’t compare one thing”. What do I care about 769 athletes dying in a year if I don’t know what’s typical? 

The last one..

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/basketball-player-scar-cabrera-adames-who-had-blamed-covid-vaccine-for-rare-heart-condition-dies-of-heart-attack/photostory/101270988.cms?from=mdr

This is only proof that someone died of a MI. 
I have myocarditis too. I was diagnosed at about 23 and gave had to treat it since then.  I also played college baseball,  along with wrestling all through high school.  So this article proves nothing other than he was unfortunate..  

we often hear about young athletes (unfortunately) suffering from heart conditions during activities, even before covid.  

We should concentrate on getting high school students the proper pre-physicals to help avoid cardiac issues along with baseline heart exams.  Yes, lots of money but if possible should be implemented. 

These issues have gone on for years with NO connection to covid 19. 

Feels like “Groundhog Day” around here sometimes.  

“Groundhog Day”for sure..but let me ask you really..did we hear about athletes died so offen before covid??..i can't remember that..

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/22892548/jo-lindner-death-updates-bodybuilding-joesthetics-live/

Did you ever think that it seems like more to you because you’re looking for the proof that supports your theories?  

MB took the time to post the facts so you should thank him for putting your concerns to rest.  If anything athletes are stronger and their cardiac patterns are followed closer than ever. 

And by Groundhog Day I’m referring to the anti vaccine propaganda posted.  

I am 100% in favor of ALL vaccines.