Pearl Jam playing TEXAS?
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Not just Texas…
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Here is a accurate start….Hobbes said:
Define "woke."Hoagie Breath said:
People like you are the true fascists. Calling everything and everyone that might not agree with every progressive leaning topic a fascist.ikiT said:I moved this outta the Tour Announcement thread..."Ok. Whatever, man. This is a thread for the tour. I’m seeing 4 shows I can drive to so I’m happy and done discussing politics. Have a good day."
Simple question...what's the thinking behind the FOUR dates in Greg Abbott's TEXAS on this minitour (AKA Florida's cousin)?
I'm old enough to remember when social issues mattered to the band more than social media.
PJ should never reward fascists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw
https://youtu.be/9fR2r8Qlyyk
Ya better than this.
LOL.
The fact that you believe PJ is playing four concerts in Texas to "reward the fascists" is hilarious, yet sad, at the same time.
I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea, that Pearl Jam fans "that can drive to the show" don't want to discuss politics with you and are also rewarding the fascists and must be called out by you.
They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like, and they sure as fuck don't want to get accused of being called a fascist (or a racist, ot a homophobe, or a transphobe, islamaphobe, or whatever other "phobe" your ultra progressive woke mind can come up with and use as a weapon in the hopes of silencing any opposing opinions and close the door on any discussion), they just want to go see a concert is all.
If you were a true fan of this band, you would be happy for them as the other 99.5% of the members of this forum are. But you make several posts about this in different threads, then decided it deserves it's very own thread and then cry about it being moved to it's proper place on the forum because you know 90% of the member won't see it. You wear your social justice warrior badge well and want everyone to know it, don't you lol ?
Pearl Jam has always been a left leaning band. I am a registered Democrat and my beliefs also lean to the left. Do I agree with every stance Pearl Jam has ever taken? For the most part, yes, but not always. And guess what ? Opinions change all the time. Maybe PJ is playing Texas to change some minds, or maybe, just maybe, while the hope of changing peoples mind is still their in their heads, they're just playing Texas because that area of the country hasn't had arena shows in a while, and maybe Ed can mention the abortion issues at some shows down there while they're at it.
Win, win, right?
Nah, not for people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies and assume all kinds of shit about people when you have no idea what is going thru their minds at any given time and make sure to call them at least one of the three hail marys out of the progressive playbook for dummies.
(1) A -----ist. (racist, facist, etc.)
(2) An anti ------ (feminist, semite, etc.)
(3) A -------phobe (transphobe, islamaphobe, etc.)
You have no idea why PJ hasn't played arena shows shows in Texas for quite sometime, yet in your woke delusional mind, you assume this to be because Republicans won some elections n Texas, elected are loud mouth Republican Governor and every resident is now guilty by association and as a result were being punished and cancelled by Pearl Jam. How dare they play shows there now?
Assuming is a motherfucker. And is the dominant trait of a true fascist.
Here's some food for thought while we're at it. Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit (like defund the police, not going so well where I live) have hijacked the Democrat Party as your own and I no longer consider myself a Democrat because of people like you. It'll be a cold day in hell that I become a registered Republican. But when it comes down to a choice between a woke progressive Democrat vs. a Republican in any and all future elections that I'm able to take part in, Republican all the way. Just wanted you know that. I aint the only one thinking like these days either, and I say this as a 28 year proud member of the Philadelphia Democratic City Committee in Philadelphia, PA.
And if it's Biden v. Trump again ? Christ I hope not, Biden sold his soul to the progressives and ain't there mentally anymore and Trump, is same as ever asshole Trump and all the bullshit that comes with asshole Trump. But the ultra progressive woke agenda that takes priority over common fucking sense and has hijacked the Democrat Party will force me to vote for Trump. Hell, maybe I'll even move to Texas, seems to be PJ's new home base lol.woke
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(adj.) A state of awareness only achieved by those dumb enough to find injustice in everything except their own behavior.
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Everything? Like the size of the curl or break? Too many Mai Tais? Or those things like discrimination based on racial or sexual orientation/preference, sex or sexual identity, race or national origin, firearm fetish or environmental concern? Proud to be woke and not a supremacist as my behaviour is not injust.lindamarie73 said:
Here is a accurate start….Hobbes said:
Define "woke."Hoagie Breath said:
People like you are the true fascists. Calling everything and everyone that might not agree with every progressive leaning topic a fascist.ikiT said:I moved this outta the Tour Announcement thread..."Ok. Whatever, man. This is a thread for the tour. I’m seeing 4 shows I can drive to so I’m happy and done discussing politics. Have a good day."
Simple question...what's the thinking behind the FOUR dates in Greg Abbott's TEXAS on this minitour (AKA Florida's cousin)?
I'm old enough to remember when social issues mattered to the band more than social media.
PJ should never reward fascists.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubwhttps://youtu.be/9fR2r8Qlyyk
Ya better than this.
LOL.
The fact that you believe PJ is playing four concerts in Texas to "reward the fascists" is hilarious, yet sad, at the same time.
I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea, that Pearl Jam fans "that can drive to the show" don't want to discuss politics with you and are also rewarding the fascists and must be called out by you.
They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like, and they sure as fuck don't want to get accused of being called a fascist (or a racist, ot a homophobe, or a transphobe, islamaphobe, or whatever other "phobe" your ultra progressive woke mind can come up with and use as a weapon in the hopes of silencing any opposing opinions and close the door on any discussion), they just want to go see a concert is all.
If you were a true fan of this band, you would be happy for them as the other 99.5% of the members of this forum are. But you make several posts about this in different threads, then decided it deserves it's very own thread and then cry about it being moved to it's proper place on the forum because you know 90% of the member won't see it. You wear your social justice warrior badge well and want everyone to know it, don't you lol ?
Pearl Jam has always been a left leaning band. I am a registered Democrat and my beliefs also lean to the left. Do I agree with every stance Pearl Jam has ever taken? For the most part, yes, but not always. And guess what ? Opinions change all the time. Maybe PJ is playing Texas to change some minds, or maybe, just maybe, while the hope of changing peoples mind is still their in their heads, they're just playing Texas because that area of the country hasn't had arena shows in a while, and maybe Ed can mention the abortion issues at some shows down there while they're at it.
Win, win, right?
Nah, not for people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies and assume all kinds of shit about people when you have no idea what is going thru their minds at any given time and make sure to call them at least one of the three hail marys out of the progressive playbook for dummies.
(1) A -----ist. (racist, facist, etc.)
(2) An anti ------ (feminist, semite, etc.)
(3) A -------phobe (transphobe, islamaphobe, etc.)
You have no idea why PJ hasn't played arena shows shows in Texas for quite sometime, yet in your woke delusional mind, you assume this to be because Republicans won some elections n Texas, elected are loud mouth Republican Governor and every resident is now guilty by association and as a result were being punished and cancelled by Pearl Jam. How dare they play shows there now?
Assuming is a motherfucker. And is the dominant trait of a true fascist.
Here's some food for thought while we're at it. Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit (like defund the police, not going so well where I live) have hijacked the Democrat Party as your own and I no longer consider myself a Democrat because of people like you. It'll be a cold day in hell that I become a registered Republican. But when it comes down to a choice between a woke progressive Democrat vs. a Republican in any and all future elections that I'm able to take part in, Republican all the way. Just wanted you know that. I aint the only one thinking like these days either, and I say this as a 28 year proud member of the Philadelphia Democratic City Committee in Philadelphia, PA.
And if it's Biden v. Trump again ? Christ I hope not, Biden sold his soul to the progressives and ain't there mentally anymore and Trump, is same as ever asshole Trump and all the bullshit that comes with asshole Trump. But the ultra progressive woke agenda that takes priority over common fucking sense and has hijacked the Democrat Party will force me to vote for Trump. Hell, maybe I'll even move to Texas, seems to be PJ's new home base lol./wok/ informal.US
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Just so you know the term "woke" is used exclusively by right-wing media as a dogwhistle to wind up their deplorable and uneducated base.lindamarie73 said:
Here is a accurate start….Hobbes said:
Define "woke."Hoagie Breath said:
People like you are the true fascists. Calling everything and everyone that might not agree with every progressive leaning topic a fascist.ikiT said:I moved this outta the Tour Announcement thread..."Ok. Whatever, man. This is a thread for the tour. I’m seeing 4 shows I can drive to so I’m happy and done discussing politics. Have a good day."
Simple question...what's the thinking behind the FOUR dates in Greg Abbott's TEXAS on this minitour (AKA Florida's cousin)?
I'm old enough to remember when social issues mattered to the band more than social media.
PJ should never reward fascists.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubwhttps://youtu.be/9fR2r8Qlyyk
Ya better than this.
LOL.
The fact that you believe PJ is playing four concerts in Texas to "reward the fascists" is hilarious, yet sad, at the same time.
I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea, that Pearl Jam fans "that can drive to the show" don't want to discuss politics with you and are also rewarding the fascists and must be called out by you.
They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like, and they sure as fuck don't want to get accused of being called a fascist (or a racist, ot a homophobe, or a transphobe, islamaphobe, or whatever other "phobe" your ultra progressive woke mind can come up with and use as a weapon in the hopes of silencing any opposing opinions and close the door on any discussion), they just want to go see a concert is all.
If you were a true fan of this band, you would be happy for them as the other 99.5% of the members of this forum are. But you make several posts about this in different threads, then decided it deserves it's very own thread and then cry about it being moved to it's proper place on the forum because you know 90% of the member won't see it. You wear your social justice warrior badge well and want everyone to know it, don't you lol ?
Pearl Jam has always been a left leaning band. I am a registered Democrat and my beliefs also lean to the left. Do I agree with every stance Pearl Jam has ever taken? For the most part, yes, but not always. And guess what ? Opinions change all the time. Maybe PJ is playing Texas to change some minds, or maybe, just maybe, while the hope of changing peoples mind is still their in their heads, they're just playing Texas because that area of the country hasn't had arena shows in a while, and maybe Ed can mention the abortion issues at some shows down there while they're at it.
Win, win, right?
Nah, not for people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies and assume all kinds of shit about people when you have no idea what is going thru their minds at any given time and make sure to call them at least one of the three hail marys out of the progressive playbook for dummies.
(1) A -----ist. (racist, facist, etc.)
(2) An anti ------ (feminist, semite, etc.)
(3) A -------phobe (transphobe, islamaphobe, etc.)
You have no idea why PJ hasn't played arena shows shows in Texas for quite sometime, yet in your woke delusional mind, you assume this to be because Republicans won some elections n Texas, elected are loud mouth Republican Governor and every resident is now guilty by association and as a result were being punished and cancelled by Pearl Jam. How dare they play shows there now?
Assuming is a motherfucker. And is the dominant trait of a true fascist.
Here's some food for thought while we're at it. Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit (like defund the police, not going so well where I live) have hijacked the Democrat Party as your own and I no longer consider myself a Democrat because of people like you. It'll be a cold day in hell that I become a registered Republican. But when it comes down to a choice between a woke progressive Democrat vs. a Republican in any and all future elections that I'm able to take part in, Republican all the way. Just wanted you know that. I aint the only one thinking like these days either, and I say this as a 28 year proud member of the Philadelphia Democratic City Committee in Philadelphia, PA.
And if it's Biden v. Trump again ? Christ I hope not, Biden sold his soul to the progressives and ain't there mentally anymore and Trump, is same as ever asshole Trump and all the bullshit that comes with asshole Trump. But the ultra progressive woke agenda that takes priority over common fucking sense and has hijacked the Democrat Party will force me to vote for Trump. Hell, maybe I'll even move to Texas, seems to be PJ's new home base lol./wok/ informal.US
(adj.) A state of awareness only achieved by those dumb enough to find injustice in everything except their own behavior.
Along with....
Antifa
Benghazi
BLM
Drag Queens
Groomers
Hillary
Hunter
Illegals
Libs
Open Borders
Socialists
The Jab
Trans
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I've only heard the word "woke" used once and only once where it worked well:When I woke up this morningYou were on my mindAndYou were on my mindHere's some good woke for you-
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Interestingly enough, for me, some of this issues started with a real issue that I think needs addressing but of course both sides dig in:Bentleyspop said:
Just so you know the term "woke" is used exclusively by right-wing media as a dogwhistle to wind up their deplorable and uneducated base.lindamarie73 said:
Here is a accurate start….Hobbes said:
Define "woke."Hoagie Breath said:
People like you are the true fascists. Calling everything and everyone that might not agree with every progressive leaning topic a fascist.ikiT said:I moved this outta the Tour Announcement thread..."Ok. Whatever, man. This is a thread for the tour. I’m seeing 4 shows I can drive to so I’m happy and done discussing politics. Have a good day."
Simple question...what's the thinking behind the FOUR dates in Greg Abbott's TEXAS on this minitour (AKA Florida's cousin)?
I'm old enough to remember when social issues mattered to the band more than social media.
PJ should never reward fascists.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubwhttps://youtu.be/9fR2r8Qlyyk
Ya better than this.
LOL.
The fact that you believe PJ is playing four concerts in Texas to "reward the fascists" is hilarious, yet sad, at the same time.
I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea, that Pearl Jam fans "that can drive to the show" don't want to discuss politics with you and are also rewarding the fascists and must be called out by you.
They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like, and they sure as fuck don't want to get accused of being called a fascist (or a racist, ot a homophobe, or a transphobe, islamaphobe, or whatever other "phobe" your ultra progressive woke mind can come up with and use as a weapon in the hopes of silencing any opposing opinions and close the door on any discussion), they just want to go see a concert is all.
If you were a true fan of this band, you would be happy for them as the other 99.5% of the members of this forum are. But you make several posts about this in different threads, then decided it deserves it's very own thread and then cry about it being moved to it's proper place on the forum because you know 90% of the member won't see it. You wear your social justice warrior badge well and want everyone to know it, don't you lol ?
Pearl Jam has always been a left leaning band. I am a registered Democrat and my beliefs also lean to the left. Do I agree with every stance Pearl Jam has ever taken? For the most part, yes, but not always. And guess what ? Opinions change all the time. Maybe PJ is playing Texas to change some minds, or maybe, just maybe, while the hope of changing peoples mind is still their in their heads, they're just playing Texas because that area of the country hasn't had arena shows in a while, and maybe Ed can mention the abortion issues at some shows down there while they're at it.
Win, win, right?
Nah, not for people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies and assume all kinds of shit about people when you have no idea what is going thru their minds at any given time and make sure to call them at least one of the three hail marys out of the progressive playbook for dummies.
(1) A -----ist. (racist, facist, etc.)
(2) An anti ------ (feminist, semite, etc.)
(3) A -------phobe (transphobe, islamaphobe, etc.)
You have no idea why PJ hasn't played arena shows shows in Texas for quite sometime, yet in your woke delusional mind, you assume this to be because Republicans won some elections n Texas, elected are loud mouth Republican Governor and every resident is now guilty by association and as a result were being punished and cancelled by Pearl Jam. How dare they play shows there now?
Assuming is a motherfucker. And is the dominant trait of a true fascist.
Here's some food for thought while we're at it. Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit (like defund the police, not going so well where I live) have hijacked the Democrat Party as your own and I no longer consider myself a Democrat because of people like you. It'll be a cold day in hell that I become a registered Republican. But when it comes down to a choice between a woke progressive Democrat vs. a Republican in any and all future elections that I'm able to take part in, Republican all the way. Just wanted you know that. I aint the only one thinking like these days either, and I say this as a 28 year proud member of the Philadelphia Democratic City Committee in Philadelphia, PA.
And if it's Biden v. Trump again ? Christ I hope not, Biden sold his soul to the progressives and ain't there mentally anymore and Trump, is same as ever asshole Trump and all the bullshit that comes with asshole Trump. But the ultra progressive woke agenda that takes priority over common fucking sense and has hijacked the Democrat Party will force me to vote for Trump. Hell, maybe I'll even move to Texas, seems to be PJ's new home base lol./wok/ informal.US
(adj.) A state of awareness only achieved by those dumb enough to find injustice in everything except their own behavior.
Along with....
Antifa
Benghazi
BLM
Drag Queens
Groomers
Hillary
Hunter
Illegals
Libs
Open Borders
Socialists
The Jab
Trans
1) Antifa - it's now the boogieman...but it can;t be denied that there are some bad players out there....it is of course easier to focus on a name rather than the behaviors. Cause the behaviors are used by groups that support both parties and often more on the far right.
2) Benghazi - I'm just tired of hearing about it at this point
3) BLM - there is a real issue with some of the tactics utilized at different points. I understand how some people get to that point, but it doesn;t make it right. Also - the real anti-police shit that stemmed from this and the fringe defund the police were awful.
4) Drag queens/Trans - this one annoys me as it's a distraction from the real issue to discuss...which is transgender surgery on minors. When you see data on how many young people are identifying as this or that....and how it is fluid for some...it's sad to think we are making kids label themselves earlier and earlier (and yes that is a negative side effect of the liberal agenda) and utilizing drugs/surgery on youth. I am certain it makes sense for some, but I would hope we would allow professionals to make that call and then parents align to it if <18.
5) Groomers - again stupid distraction from same issue above. goes further in that it tries to paint LBGT as groomers....but again it's just projection as it's the far right religious bullshit that are the groomers.
6) Hillary/Hunter - distractions
7) Illegals/Open boarders - again a real issue that the liberals have been terrible on...but the conservatives have been just as bad. No one wants to solve. It's just an election item to get people to the polls.
8) Socialists - broad label....not sure who it applies to more now...
9) The Jab - again, was a public health issue that should have brought us together that instead was used to divide.
So - a lot of distraction items in there to keep from solving the real ones. But there are some real ones in there where, IMO, the "woke" agenda has gone off the rails.
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From WaPo:
The shooting in Allen is the third mass killing recorded in Texas so far this year. In 2022, Texas recorded six mass killings by gun — the most of any single state.
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I don’t think that we’re making kids label themselves. Or if we are, it’s less than we used to. The younger generations have fewer hang ups about gender roles and I think they’re much more at ease about androgeny. This creates an atmosphere or greater acceptance.cincybearcat said:
Interestingly enough, for me, some of this issues started with a real issue that I think needs addressing but of course both sides dig in:Bentleyspop said:
Just so you know the term "woke" is used exclusively by right-wing media as a dogwhistle to wind up their deplorable and uneducated base.lindamarie73 said:
Here is a accurate start….Hobbes said:
Define "woke."Hoagie Breath said:
People like you are the true fascists. Calling everything and everyone that might not agree with every progressive leaning topic a fascist.ikiT said:I moved this outta the Tour Announcement thread..."Ok. Whatever, man. This is a thread for the tour. I’m seeing 4 shows I can drive to so I’m happy and done discussing politics. Have a good day."
Simple question...what's the thinking behind the FOUR dates in Greg Abbott's TEXAS on this minitour (AKA Florida's cousin)?
I'm old enough to remember when social issues mattered to the band more than social media.
PJ should never reward fascists.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubwhttps://youtu.be/9fR2r8Qlyyk
Ya better than this.
LOL.
The fact that you believe PJ is playing four concerts in Texas to "reward the fascists" is hilarious, yet sad, at the same time.
I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea, that Pearl Jam fans "that can drive to the show" don't want to discuss politics with you and are also rewarding the fascists and must be called out by you.
They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like, and they sure as fuck don't want to get accused of being called a fascist (or a racist, ot a homophobe, or a transphobe, islamaphobe, or whatever other "phobe" your ultra progressive woke mind can come up with and use as a weapon in the hopes of silencing any opposing opinions and close the door on any discussion), they just want to go see a concert is all.
If you were a true fan of this band, you would be happy for them as the other 99.5% of the members of this forum are. But you make several posts about this in different threads, then decided it deserves it's very own thread and then cry about it being moved to it's proper place on the forum because you know 90% of the member won't see it. You wear your social justice warrior badge well and want everyone to know it, don't you lol ?
Pearl Jam has always been a left leaning band. I am a registered Democrat and my beliefs also lean to the left. Do I agree with every stance Pearl Jam has ever taken? For the most part, yes, but not always. And guess what ? Opinions change all the time. Maybe PJ is playing Texas to change some minds, or maybe, just maybe, while the hope of changing peoples mind is still their in their heads, they're just playing Texas because that area of the country hasn't had arena shows in a while, and maybe Ed can mention the abortion issues at some shows down there while they're at it.
Win, win, right?
Nah, not for people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies and assume all kinds of shit about people when you have no idea what is going thru their minds at any given time and make sure to call them at least one of the three hail marys out of the progressive playbook for dummies.
(1) A -----ist. (racist, facist, etc.)
(2) An anti ------ (feminist, semite, etc.)
(3) A -------phobe (transphobe, islamaphobe, etc.)
You have no idea why PJ hasn't played arena shows shows in Texas for quite sometime, yet in your woke delusional mind, you assume this to be because Republicans won some elections n Texas, elected are loud mouth Republican Governor and every resident is now guilty by association and as a result were being punished and cancelled by Pearl Jam. How dare they play shows there now?
Assuming is a motherfucker. And is the dominant trait of a true fascist.
Here's some food for thought while we're at it. Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit (like defund the police, not going so well where I live) have hijacked the Democrat Party as your own and I no longer consider myself a Democrat because of people like you. It'll be a cold day in hell that I become a registered Republican. But when it comes down to a choice between a woke progressive Democrat vs. a Republican in any and all future elections that I'm able to take part in, Republican all the way. Just wanted you know that. I aint the only one thinking like these days either, and I say this as a 28 year proud member of the Philadelphia Democratic City Committee in Philadelphia, PA.
And if it's Biden v. Trump again ? Christ I hope not, Biden sold his soul to the progressives and ain't there mentally anymore and Trump, is same as ever asshole Trump and all the bullshit that comes with asshole Trump. But the ultra progressive woke agenda that takes priority over common fucking sense and has hijacked the Democrat Party will force me to vote for Trump. Hell, maybe I'll even move to Texas, seems to be PJ's new home base lol./wok/ informal.US
(adj.) A state of awareness only achieved by those dumb enough to find injustice in everything except their own behavior.
Along with....
Antifa
Benghazi
BLM
Drag Queens
Groomers
Hillary
Hunter
Illegals
Libs
Open Borders
Socialists
The Jab
Trans
1) Antifa - it's now the boogieman...but it can;t be denied that there are some bad players out there....it is of course easier to focus on a name rather than the behaviors. Cause the behaviors are used by groups that support both parties and often more on the far right.
2) Benghazi - I'm just tired of hearing about it at this point
3) BLM - there is a real issue with some of the tactics utilized at different points. I understand how some people get to that point, but it doesn;t make it right. Also - the real anti-police shit that stemmed from this and the fringe defund the police were awful.
4) Drag queens/Trans - this one annoys me as it's a distraction from the real issue to discuss...which is transgender surgery on minors. When you see data on how many young people are identifying as this or that....and how it is fluid for some...it's sad to think we are making kids label themselves earlier and earlier (and yes that is a negative side effect of the liberal agenda) and utilizing drugs/surgery on youth. I am certain it makes sense for some, but I would hope we would allow professionals to make that call and then parents align to it if <18.
5) Groomers - again stupid distraction from same issue above. goes further in that it tries to paint LBGT as groomers....but again it's just projection as it's the far right religious bullshit that are the groomers.
6) Hillary/Hunter - distractions
7) Illegals/Open boarders - again a real issue that the liberals have been terrible on...but the conservatives have been just as bad. No one wants to solve. It's just an election item to get people to the polls.
8) Socialists - broad label....not sure who it applies to more now...
9) The Jab - again, was a public health issue that should have brought us together that instead was used to divide.
So - a lot of distraction items in there to keep from solving the real ones. But there are some real ones in there where, IMO, the "woke" agenda has gone off the rails.0 -
My sample size is small....but I've been talking with my ultra liberal friend and he has talked about it happening constantly within his daughter's high school.... and kids pressuring other kids to tell them "what they are"...not in a bad way of pressure...not bullying them...but making them label themselves. I have seen this myself.Go Beavers said:
I don’t think that we’re making kids label themselves. Or if we are, it’s less than we used to. The younger generations have fewer hang ups about gender roles and I think they’re much more at ease about androgeny. This creates an atmosphere or greater acceptance.cincybearcat said:
Interestingly enough, for me, some of this issues started with a real issue that I think needs addressing but of course both sides dig in:Bentleyspop said:
Just so you know the term "woke" is used exclusively by right-wing media as a dogwhistle to wind up their deplorable and uneducated base.lindamarie73 said:
Here is a accurate start….Hobbes said:
Define "woke."Hoagie Breath said:
People like you are the true fascists. Calling everything and everyone that might not agree with every progressive leaning topic a fascist.ikiT said:I moved this outta the Tour Announcement thread..."Ok. Whatever, man. This is a thread for the tour. I’m seeing 4 shows I can drive to so I’m happy and done discussing politics. Have a good day."
Simple question...what's the thinking behind the FOUR dates in Greg Abbott's TEXAS on this minitour (AKA Florida's cousin)?
I'm old enough to remember when social issues mattered to the band more than social media.
PJ should never reward fascists.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubwhttps://youtu.be/9fR2r8Qlyyk
Ya better than this.
LOL.
The fact that you believe PJ is playing four concerts in Texas to "reward the fascists" is hilarious, yet sad, at the same time.
I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea, that Pearl Jam fans "that can drive to the show" don't want to discuss politics with you and are also rewarding the fascists and must be called out by you.
They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like, and they sure as fuck don't want to get accused of being called a fascist (or a racist, ot a homophobe, or a transphobe, islamaphobe, or whatever other "phobe" your ultra progressive woke mind can come up with and use as a weapon in the hopes of silencing any opposing opinions and close the door on any discussion), they just want to go see a concert is all.
If you were a true fan of this band, you would be happy for them as the other 99.5% of the members of this forum are. But you make several posts about this in different threads, then decided it deserves it's very own thread and then cry about it being moved to it's proper place on the forum because you know 90% of the member won't see it. You wear your social justice warrior badge well and want everyone to know it, don't you lol ?
Pearl Jam has always been a left leaning band. I am a registered Democrat and my beliefs also lean to the left. Do I agree with every stance Pearl Jam has ever taken? For the most part, yes, but not always. And guess what ? Opinions change all the time. Maybe PJ is playing Texas to change some minds, or maybe, just maybe, while the hope of changing peoples mind is still their in their heads, they're just playing Texas because that area of the country hasn't had arena shows in a while, and maybe Ed can mention the abortion issues at some shows down there while they're at it.
Win, win, right?
Nah, not for people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies and assume all kinds of shit about people when you have no idea what is going thru their minds at any given time and make sure to call them at least one of the three hail marys out of the progressive playbook for dummies.
(1) A -----ist. (racist, facist, etc.)
(2) An anti ------ (feminist, semite, etc.)
(3) A -------phobe (transphobe, islamaphobe, etc.)
You have no idea why PJ hasn't played arena shows shows in Texas for quite sometime, yet in your woke delusional mind, you assume this to be because Republicans won some elections n Texas, elected are loud mouth Republican Governor and every resident is now guilty by association and as a result were being punished and cancelled by Pearl Jam. How dare they play shows there now?
Assuming is a motherfucker. And is the dominant trait of a true fascist.
Here's some food for thought while we're at it. Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit (like defund the police, not going so well where I live) have hijacked the Democrat Party as your own and I no longer consider myself a Democrat because of people like you. It'll be a cold day in hell that I become a registered Republican. But when it comes down to a choice between a woke progressive Democrat vs. a Republican in any and all future elections that I'm able to take part in, Republican all the way. Just wanted you know that. I aint the only one thinking like these days either, and I say this as a 28 year proud member of the Philadelphia Democratic City Committee in Philadelphia, PA.
And if it's Biden v. Trump again ? Christ I hope not, Biden sold his soul to the progressives and ain't there mentally anymore and Trump, is same as ever asshole Trump and all the bullshit that comes with asshole Trump. But the ultra progressive woke agenda that takes priority over common fucking sense and has hijacked the Democrat Party will force me to vote for Trump. Hell, maybe I'll even move to Texas, seems to be PJ's new home base lol./wok/ informal.US
(adj.) A state of awareness only achieved by those dumb enough to find injustice in everything except their own behavior.
Along with....
Antifa
Benghazi
BLM
Drag Queens
Groomers
Hillary
Hunter
Illegals
Libs
Open Borders
Socialists
The Jab
Trans
1) Antifa - it's now the boogieman...but it can;t be denied that there are some bad players out there....it is of course easier to focus on a name rather than the behaviors. Cause the behaviors are used by groups that support both parties and often more on the far right.
2) Benghazi - I'm just tired of hearing about it at this point
3) BLM - there is a real issue with some of the tactics utilized at different points. I understand how some people get to that point, but it doesn;t make it right. Also - the real anti-police shit that stemmed from this and the fringe defund the police were awful.
4) Drag queens/Trans - this one annoys me as it's a distraction from the real issue to discuss...which is transgender surgery on minors. When you see data on how many young people are identifying as this or that....and how it is fluid for some...it's sad to think we are making kids label themselves earlier and earlier (and yes that is a negative side effect of the liberal agenda) and utilizing drugs/surgery on youth. I am certain it makes sense for some, but I would hope we would allow professionals to make that call and then parents align to it if <18.
5) Groomers - again stupid distraction from same issue above. goes further in that it tries to paint LBGT as groomers....but again it's just projection as it's the far right religious bullshit that are the groomers.
6) Hillary/Hunter - distractions
7) Illegals/Open boarders - again a real issue that the liberals have been terrible on...but the conservatives have been just as bad. No one wants to solve. It's just an election item to get people to the polls.
8) Socialists - broad label....not sure who it applies to more now...
9) The Jab - again, was a public health issue that should have brought us together that instead was used to divide.
So - a lot of distraction items in there to keep from solving the real ones. But there are some real ones in there where, IMO, the "woke" agenda has gone off the rails.
I was also using a couple of high school newspapers where they specifically asked people these questions and the % of non-hetero was astounding....gender-wise a little less so.
I feel there is a sweet spot in this...and most likely will reach equilibrium at a future point once we aren't talking about it so much. But I do think all the talk has lead to more kids identifying as something other than the "social norm" then is reality. But I'll have to wait and see.
I think your last couple of sentence is mostly correct. But with that acceptance comes the need to label people to show your acceptance.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Halifax2TheMax said:From WaPo:
The shooting in Allen is the third mass killing recorded in Texas so far this year. In 2022, Texas recorded six mass killings by gun — the most of any single state.
Texas, the state where they like to do everything big. Their motto should be, "We will not be out done!"
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
I don’t care if the band decides to play these states with terrible gun laws! It’s up to individuals like us to boycott states that don’t give a crap about these massacres, that’s how I’m going to do my part
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Besides mass shootings, other forms of violence are happening in Texas. Not that everyone is bad or evil there (of course not), but Texas is full of hatred and sickness and is one state I will never set foot in, never spend one dime in.
Texas: police name suspect after eight killed by truck plowing into crowd
George Alvarez accused of injuring 10 others after SUV drove into migrant crowd outside bus stop in border city of Brownsville
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/08/cow-deaths-murders-texas
Who is behind a string of grisly cow deaths in Texas?
Authorities are stumped after seven cows are mutilated in three counties within weeks
Their tongues were cut off, but there was no spilled blood. No signs of struggle. No footprints or tire tracks were found. Investigators were stumped: who is going on a murderous rampage of cows in Texas, and how are there no clues surrounding their deaths?
Texas is one state I will never set foot in.
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
What'd I miss?
Lizzo dances with drag queens at Knoxville show in protest of Tennessee drag ban
"What people are doing in Tennessee is giving hope," Lizzo said onstage.
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/lizzo-dances-drag-queens-knoxville-show-protest-tennessee-drag-ban/story?id=98799544Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180 -
LOLHoagie Breath said:
People like you are the true fascists. Calling everything and everyone that might not agree with every progressive leaning topic a fascist.ikiT said:I moved this outta the Tour Announcement thread..."Ok. Whatever, man. This is a thread for the tour. I’m seeing 4 shows I can drive to so I’m happy and done discussing politics. Have a good day."
Simple question...what's the thinking behind the FOUR dates in Greg Abbott's TEXAS on this minitour (AKA Florida's cousin)?
I'm old enough to remember when social issues mattered to the band more than social media.
PJ should never reward fascists.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubwhttps://youtu.be/9fR2r8Qlyyk
Ya better than this.
LOL.
The fact that you believe PJ is playing four concerts in Texas to "reward the fascists" is hilarious, yet sad, at the same time.
I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea, that Pearl Jam fans "that can drive to the show" don't want to discuss politics with you and are also rewarding the fascists and must be called out by you.
They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like, and they sure as fuck don't want to get accused of being called a fascist (or a racist, ot a homophobe, or a transphobe, islamaphobe, or whatever other "phobe" your ultra progressive woke mind can come up with and use as a weapon in the hopes of silencing any opposing opinions and close the door on any discussion), they just want to go see a concert is all.
If you were a true fan of this band, you would be happy for them as the other 99.5% of the members of this forum are. But you make several posts about this in different threads, then decided it deserves it's very own thread and then cry about it being moved to it's proper place on the forum because you know 90% of the member won't see it. You wear your social justice warrior badge well and want everyone to know it, don't you lol ?
Pearl Jam has always been a left leaning band. I am a registered Democrat and my beliefs also lean to the left. Do I agree with every stance Pearl Jam has ever taken? For the most part, yes, but not always. And guess what ? Opinions change all the time. Maybe PJ is playing Texas to change some minds, or maybe, just maybe, while the hope of changing peoples mind is still their in their heads, they're just playing Texas because that area of the country hasn't had arena shows in a while, and maybe Ed can mention the abortion issues at some shows down there while they're at it.
Win, win, right?
Nah, not for people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies and assume all kinds of shit about people when you have no idea what is going thru their minds at any given time and make sure to call them at least one of the three hail marys out of the progressive playbook for dummies.
(1) A -----ist. (racist, facist, etc.)
(2) An anti ------ (feminist, semite, etc.)
(3) A -------phobe (transphobe, islamaphobe, etc.)
You have no idea why PJ hasn't played arena shows shows in Texas for quite sometime, yet in your woke delusional mind, you assume this to be because Republicans won some elections n Texas, elected are loud mouth Republican Governor and every resident is now guilty by association and as a result were being punished and cancelled by Pearl Jam. How dare they play shows there now?
Assuming is a motherfucker. And is the dominant trait of a true fascist.
Here's some food for thought while we're at it. Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit (like defund the police, not going so well where I live) have hijacked the Democrat Party as your own and I no longer consider myself a Democrat because of people like you. It'll be a cold day in hell that I become a registered Republican. But when it comes down to a choice between a woke progressive Democrat vs. a Republican in any and all future elections that I'm able to take part in, Republican all the way. Just wanted you know that. I aint the only one thinking like these days either, and I say this as a 28 year proud member of the Philadelphia Democratic City Committee in Philadelphia, PA.
And if it's Biden v. Trump again ? Christ I hope not, Biden sold his soul to the progressives and ain't there mentally anymore and Trump, is same as ever asshole Trump and all the bullshit that comes with asshole Trump. But the ultra progressive woke agenda that takes priority over common fucking sense and has hijacked the Democrat Party will force me to vote for Trump. Hell, maybe I'll even move to Texas, seems to be PJ's new home base lol.Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180 -
I hope Eddie talks a lot about the right to choose at every single Texas show... Hey, maybe that's why they're going there, LOL.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
assuming is the dominant trait of a true fascist? news to meBy The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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PJ are hypocrites. That's okay. Most people are. They should not have boycotted Raleigh, which was a slippery slope. Charlotte actually did a progressive thing by passing the bathroom bill but the heavily gerrymandered state legislature wrote the bad bill in response. Its a purple state and Raleigh is very blue. PJ accomplished nothing towards their political objective by canceling the show, although it did hurt many fans and businesses (many of which support progressive values). It was a mistake even if PJ nor some of their die hard fans that excuse PJ no matter what will never admit. It would be a bigger mistake if they chose to boycott many other places. 2 wrongs don't make a right. Even after the Raleigh show, PJ has played everywhere from Tennessee, Lousianna, South America, Italy, etc. They are hypocrites, yes. There are worse things in the world. I only wish they would have played Raleigh again since then. Raleigh deserves a rocking make-up show.0
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So after they convert your kids, they can molest them and then give them last rites. All in school. How about keeping your religion away from my kid? Or providing mental health counseling?
Texas legislature passes bill allowing chaplains in public schools
The Texas legislature has passed a bill that would allow schools to employ chaplains in addition to school counselors, with Republicans overriding objections by Democrats to send the legislation to the governor’s desk.
The bill would permit school districts to hire chaplains who, unlike school counselors, are not required to be certified by the State Board for Educator Certification. A version of the bill already sailed through the state Senate last month, and the Texas House passed an amended version on Tuesday evening in a vote that appeared to fall largely along party lines, with 89 voting in favor and 58 opposed.
Conservative groups such as Texas Values Action have voiced support for the bill, and the National School Chaplain Association, an arm of the Christian group Mission Generation, testified in support during committee meetings last month.
Rocky Malloy, head of the NSCA, argued during his testimony that the bill would increase school safety and not infringe on the religious beliefs of students, saying, “Chaplains operate within an individual’s belief and convictions — they are not working to convert people to religion.”
But Malloy’s organization has suggested otherwise in the past, and critics of the bill argue it could lead to proselytization and erode the separation of church and state.
“I worry that this bill will lead to Christian nationalists infiltrating our public schools and indoctrinating our students,” Democratic Rep. James Talarico, a Presbyterian seminarian, told Religion News Service in a phone interview from the state House floor on Tuesday.
Texas Senate Democrats made similar arguments during debate over the bill last month, and multiple Democratic House members made efforts to amend it — with mixed results. Talarico sought to bar chaplains from proselytizing and require parental consent before meeting with students, and Rep. Toni Rose sought to limit the bill to schools in counties with populations of less than 150,000. Separately, Rep. Gene Wu attempted to bar the use of public funds and require schools to provide a religious leader of a different faith for students who request them.
All of those efforts failed, although lawmakers did amend the bill to prohibit registered sex offenders from serving as chaplains, to institute background checks, and to require those serving in the role to be endorsed by an organization recognized by the U.S. Defense Department, the Federal Bureau of Prisons or the Texas Department of Criminal Justice.
Imelda Mejia, a spokesperson for Texas Freedom Network, which has been critical of the bill, expressed concern about the influence of the NSCA. The website for the group’s parent organization, Mission Generation, recently began redirecting to the NSCA’s website, but archived versions from last year listed a desire to “influence those in education until the saving grace of Jesus becomes well-known, and students develop a personal relationship with Him.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2023/05/11/texas-legislature-chaplains-public-schools/
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