Official 2023 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

cincybearcat · April 2023

Jadler said:

estarr31 said:

Seat reassignments? It sounds like just for reserved seats tho right? I'm not losing GA?

That’s what I am thinking/ hoping as well.

My email with seat change was for the show I had reserve to. I did not receive notice for the show I got GA.

JI10794 · April 2023

know1 said:

CM189191 said:

Pottsy199 said:

PJINFLA said:

After this debacle Ticketmaster should be pressured to give up their "premium" seats and put them back in the mix for the reissued seat assignments.

The band won't want that because that's where they are making their nut on seats with the prices being capped for all other seats. I feel like one of the emails suggested that to a certain extent.

Something like...We are doing the premium seating to offset the cost of the price capped seats everywhere else.

Yes, but Premium seats shouldn't be better than 10C seats. Really gives me no reason to stay in the fan club. The primary reason I'm in 10C is to get good seats. But we still keep getting pushed around by TicketMaster. Give me a seat that actually faces the stage, not center ice.

I've had my membership uninterrupted for 20 years now. Over that time, I've gone to about 20 shows. My seats have honestly never gotten better in that span. In fact, they seem to have gotten slightly worse over time. You can't tell me that some significant portion of the fanbase with better numbers than me hasn't let theirs drop in that time.

I get that they do smaller tours now and that means more might be choosing to go to a show and therefore having an effect on seating, but this was happening even when they had bigger tours.

Not a complaint, but more of an observation.

my seats have definitely gotten worse. I’ve been in the 10c for 27 and would always get first fifteen rows for Yield through Backspacer tours. And now I can’t even get tickets to a show through the fan club.

machinehum · April 2023

lowbudgetlush · April 2023

Jadler said:

Gern Blansten said:

Just wait until some of us end up with worse seats. The thing to do would be for TM to improve those who got shafted and let the rest at least maintain. I don't know which category I will fit in but TM fucked it up and should at least keep us whole.

Crazy thing is that I didn't get an email stating that my Noblesville pit tix were being changed. I hope that holds.

I have not either. I am hopeful that will remain the case as there aren’t any “seats” in the pit to reassign.

You won the pit lottery you are fine. I won the reserved lottery. The only thing that will change is the seats. For example they can’t boot me to the lawn due to seniority as lawn was a separate draw.

BV84003 · April 2023

washed in black said:

CM189191 said:

Pottsy199 said:

PJINFLA said:

After this debacle Ticketmaster should be pressured to give up their "premium" seats and put them back in the mix for the reissued seat assignments.

The band won't want that because that's where they are making their nut on seats with the prices being capped for all other seats. I feel like one of the emails suggested that to a certain extent.

Something like...We are doing the premium seating to offset the cost of the price capped seats everywhere else.

Yes, but Premium seats shouldn't be better than 10C seats. Really gives me no reason to stay in the fan club. The primary reason I'm in 10C is to get good seats. But we still keep getting pushed around by TicketMaster. Give me a seat that actually faces the stage, not center ice.

My 10c seats for Camden in 2008 were in the 100 section, about 6 rows from the back. 14 years later, many people have let their numbers lapse, so logically, my 308### should put me closer. Thanks to TM premium seats, I ended up in the 200 section. While I am extremely grateful that I had 10c tix, it makes me sick that there were Premium seats available in the same row as mine, with a "face" value of $800.

TM is the devil.

Without trying to ruffle anyone's feathers, Platinum seating availability on Ticketmaster is something the artists sign off on. Robert Smith just had a very transparent, very public diatribe on twitter about all of that. Yes, TM is awful, but I think PJ ultimately just gave in. Maybe they *had* to in order to keep the 10club system.

wwsuicide · April 2023

Ban all the fuckers that immediately listed to Stubhub while you’re at it!!

cblock4life · April 2023

darwinstheory said:

I've not recieved any communication whatsoever. Well, I did recieved a confirmation email that I signed up. But crickets since. No email confirmation for tickets recieved. No confirmation that I struck out completely. No email about any reallocation of tickets. No email telling me to "GFY"

If your request in my tickets has processing complete tap that and it will show you your shows and status.

Get_Right · April 2023

Wait. I cannot read through 740 posts. Does anybody have the communication on reassignment? Was it from the band or TM?

josevolution · April 2023

Go Animal said:

Somebody else said it before me, but the only way to truly fix this, is to pull from the PJ Premium inventory.

I'll even go one step further: every single ten club member who submitted a lottery request should get the amount of tickets (single, or pair) they requested for their shows. No denials.

Sure, go ahead and do seating based on seniority. But there is no good reason for there to be good seats selling for $1,000+, with 10c members being shut out.

The band has made enough money where they can charge 150-160 a ticket, still be rich & philanthropic, and pay their full time employees.

This would be a fair compromise.

This^^^^ 100%

machinehum · April 2023

Doug87 · April 2023

Go Animal said:

Somebody else said it before me, but the only way to truly fix this, is to pull from the PJ Premium inventory.

I'll even go one step further: every single ten club member who submitted a lottery request should get the amount of tickets (single, or pair) they requested for their shows. No denials.

Sure, go ahead and do seating based on seniority. But there is no good reason for there to be good seats selling for $1,000+, with 10c members being shut out.

The band has made enough money where they can charge 150-160 a ticket, still be rich & philanthropic, and pay their full time employees.

This would be a fair compromise.

Without cutting into their Premium stash:

GoAnimal, wouldn’t they be able to accommodate all the priority 1’s if they halted the on sales yesterday which it seems they did and are reassigning tickets?

if tickets do go all the way to the upper levels consistent with Texas, there should be a lot left to go outside of Noblesville (plenty of lawn but pavilion has very very limited supply in general.)

Jadler · April 2023

lowbudgetlush said:

Jadler said:

Gern Blansten said:

Just wait until some of us end up with worse seats. The thing to do would be for TM to improve those who got shafted and let the rest at least maintain. I don't know which category I will fit in but TM fucked it up and should at least keep us whole.

Crazy thing is that I didn't get an email stating that my Noblesville pit tix were being changed. I hope that holds.

I have not either. I am hopeful that will remain the case as there aren’t any “seats” in the pit to reassign.

You won the pit lottery you are fine. I won the reserved lottery. The only thing that will change is the seats. For example they can’t boot me to the lawn due to seniority as lawn was a separate draw.

That’s what I figured as well. Thanks! What a debacle.

Kevinman · April 2023

JI10794 said:

know1 said:

CM189191 said:

Pottsy199 said:

PJINFLA said:

After this debacle Ticketmaster should be pressured to give up their "premium" seats and put them back in the mix for the reissued seat assignments.

The band won't want that because that's where they are making their nut on seats with the prices being capped for all other seats. I feel like one of the emails suggested that to a certain extent.

Something like...We are doing the premium seating to offset the cost of the price capped seats everywhere else.

Yes, but Premium seats shouldn't be better than 10C seats. Really gives me no reason to stay in the fan club. The primary reason I'm in 10C is to get good seats. But we still keep getting pushed around by TicketMaster. Give me a seat that actually faces the stage, not center ice.

I've had my membership uninterrupted for 20 years now. Over that time, I've gone to about 20 shows. My seats have honestly never gotten better in that span. In fact, they seem to have gotten slightly worse over time. You can't tell me that some significant portion of the fanbase with better numbers than me hasn't let theirs drop in that time.

I get that they do smaller tours now and that means more might be choosing to go to a show and therefore having an effect on seating, but this was happening even when they had bigger tours.

Not a complaint, but more of an observation.

my seats have definitely gotten worse. I’ve been in the 10c for 27 and would always get first fifteen rows for Yield through Backspacer tours. And now I can’t even get tickets to a show through the fan club.

I'm in the same boat........member since 98 no lapses. I think the main reason my seats are moving back is less shows on each tour which leads to higher demand for those shows. Also in the past you could only select 1 show per tour, now you can select multiple which brings more competition.

hairgrowth2001 · April 2023

Give the whole pavilion to 10 club members.

estarr31 · April 2023

Get_Right said:

Wait. I cannot read through 740 posts. Does anybody have the communication on reassignment? Was it from the band or TM?

it was an email from Ticketstoday, just like the confirmation you won email.

bootlegger10 · April 2023

Kevinman said:

JI10794 said:

know1 said:

CM189191 said:

Pottsy199 said:

PJINFLA said:

After this debacle Ticketmaster should be pressured to give up their "premium" seats and put them back in the mix for the reissued seat assignments.

The band won't want that because that's where they are making their nut on seats with the prices being capped for all other seats. I feel like one of the emails suggested that to a certain extent.

Something like...We are doing the premium seating to offset the cost of the price capped seats everywhere else.

Yes, but Premium seats shouldn't be better than 10C seats. Really gives me no reason to stay in the fan club. The primary reason I'm in 10C is to get good seats. But we still keep getting pushed around by TicketMaster. Give me a seat that actually faces the stage, not center ice.

I've had my membership uninterrupted for 20 years now. Over that time, I've gone to about 20 shows. My seats have honestly never gotten better in that span. In fact, they seem to have gotten slightly worse over time. You can't tell me that some significant portion of the fanbase with better numbers than me hasn't let theirs drop in that time.

I get that they do smaller tours now and that means more might be choosing to go to a show and therefore having an effect on seating, but this was happening even when they had bigger tours.

Not a complaint, but more of an observation.

my seats have definitely gotten worse. I’ve been in the 10c for 27 and would always get first fifteen rows for Yield through Backspacer tours. And now I can’t even get tickets to a show through the fan club.

I'm in the same boat........member since 98 no lapses. I think the main reason my seats are moving back is less shows on each tour which leads to higher demand for those shows. Also in the past you could only select 1 show per tour, now you can select multiple which brings more competition.

There was never a cap on number of shows per tour (at least when I started seeing them in 1998). Agree that less shows likely means your number isn't as good as when it was a 30 show tour. From the sounds of it though we are getting some strange seating assignments based on seniority.

mdbhound25 · April 2023

Have there been any updates or guesses on whether they will add lawn for Indy today? I don’t believe I saw any confirmations/ tickets for lawn in the lottery yesterday.

Yieldwaukee · April 2023

Get_Right said:

Wait. I cannot read through 740 posts. Does anybody have the communication on reassignment? Was it from the band or TM?

Was from Ticketstoday with the 10C header.

estarr31 · April 2023

Gern Blansten said:

estarr31 said:

Seat reassignments? It sounds like just for reserved seats tho right? I'm not losing GA?

to be determined...I got emails for reserved seats but not for the GA tix in Noblesville

They didnt have a date on there but I did notice the receipt # and that lines up with just the reserved ticket one. Thanks.

know1 · April 2023

machinehum said:

Seats getting worse on average has been officially and explicitly explained. They’ve made the decision that they’d rather 10C = more people can get a price-capped seat which includes mostly “worse” seats, rather than very few people get a price-capped seat but it’s much more likely to be a good one. It’s understandable if people don’t love that choice but it’s not a mystery.

I'm pretty sure that's never been stated.

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