Remember the good old F5 days? Log in at a certain time, refresh until you get the tickets you wanted.
Then you had the anticipation of seeing what seats you were going to get when you picked up your printed tickets, that probably only cost $60. For some reason, even though that was nearly 2 decades ago, the 10C seats were better then too, despite logic dictating that one's seats should improve over time.
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I think how it works is each tour has a certain amount of dates, this tour...9. Priority 1= 9 entries Priority 2= 8 entries and so on. So that is how someone with 8 shows gets all and some with just 1 or a few get none. I just scored Austin N2 on my 3rd priority so one of my 7 entries got picked and none of my previous 17 entries did.
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My guess is people with high member numbers will still hear somehting
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All, it's not totally confusing as to why someone who listed any show as 2nd priority would get a ticket and someone with 1st priority wouldn't. My understanding is they group those in 1st priority, run the randomizer/lottery and issue tickets to those who get picked. Once that's done they do that again for 2nd, 3rd, 4th priority etc until all the allotment is gone.
I could be wrong. Someone let me know if they know otherwise.
No. First priority are drawn first. If tickets remain, they move on to second priority entries. A first priority person should never lose and a second priority person win.
That's not how it's worked for the last few tours I don't believe. Been multiple past examples of 2nd, 3rd priority ppl getting tickets and 1st priority ppl getting nothing. it's caused a lot of butthurt for some folks. My first priority was Chicago N1. Haven't received an email yet. Yet some people at 2nd priority have reported getting reserved tickets.
That is the reason we put priority down. It makes no sense to have priority for pics if it was random as you said. In no way should someone that picked a show as a 2nd get it over someone that put it as a first. That is a broken system
All I'm saying is there was a person here who said they got St Paul tickets for both nights at 5th and 6th priority and then there are people who put those as 1st and/or 2nd priority and haven't heard back yet. I guess they could still get tickets if they're sending out the emails by 10c number.
People are thinking about "priority" wrong here. This has *nothing* to do with who has "priority" to get drawn, it is *only* and *strictly* your own personal prioritization of your preference of shows to attend. How to translate those personal rankings into something that looks fair across a matrix of multiple people ranking multiple instances is an entire field of study and there are a thousand ways to do it depending on what factors are considered more important.
Then what is the point of them asking it? Not looking for a fight, just seems to needlessly complicate things if it doesn't have any impact on what order people get drawn.
Lol right it is so simlple
5000 pairs to go out for 10C
Priority 1 is drawn
3000 people have it as a first pick. All win
Priority 2 is drawn
2500 people have it as a second pick. 2000 win. 500 lose.
Everyone after priority 2 loses
This is not hard.
Yeah it did seem like a relatively simple system in the past lotteries. If someone got a certain show with priority 2 or 3, then anyone who had that show as priority 1 necessarily would’ve scored as well (since the lottery for each show only got to the priority 2 or 3 entries after the priority 1 entries were exhausted). I’m guessing they used a different algorithm this time around. But what it is, I have no idea
Has anyone used the Fan to Fan thing before? If you want to get rid of a ticket does just it just go up for the first random person to snag or can you specify a recipient?
You place it up for sale and anyone can buy it.
As someone who put in for four shows and have been skunked, I’m very interested in the fan to fan… is there more info about it somewhere? I think I read that starting in May is when tickets can become listed. Thanks in advance!
I found that started off very slow last time but the closer the show date came the more and more seats appeared. You just have to keep an eye on it.
All, it's not totally confusing as to why someone who listed any show as 2nd priority would get a ticket and someone with 1st priority wouldn't. My understanding is they group those in 1st priority, run the randomizer/lottery and issue tickets to those who get picked. Once that's done they do that again for 2nd, 3rd, 4th priority etc until all the allotment is gone.
I could be wrong. Someone let me know if they know otherwise.
No. First priority are drawn first. If tickets remain, they move on to second priority entries. A first priority person should never lose and a second priority person win.
That's not how it's worked for the last few tours I don't believe. Been multiple past examples of 2nd, 3rd priority ppl getting tickets and 1st priority ppl getting nothing. it's caused a lot of butthurt for some folks. My first priority was Chicago N1. Haven't received an email yet. Yet some people at 2nd priority have reported getting reserved tickets.
That is the reason we put priority down. It makes no sense to have priority for pics if it was random as you said. In no way should someone that picked a show as a 2nd get it over someone that put it as a first. That is a broken system
All I'm saying is there was a person here who said they got St Paul tickets for both nights at 5th and 6th priority and then there are people who put those as 1st and/or 2nd priority and haven't heard back yet. I guess they could still get tickets if they're sending out the emails by 10c number.
People are thinking about "priority" wrong here. This has *nothing* to do with who has "priority" to get drawn, it is *only* and *strictly* your own personal prioritization of your preference of shows to attend. How to translate those personal rankings into something that looks fair across a matrix of multiple people ranking multiple instances is an entire field of study and there are a thousand ways to do it depending on what factors are considered more important.
Then what is the point of them asking it? Not looking for a fight, just seems to needlessly complicate things if it doesn't have any impact on what order people get drawn.
Lol right it is so simlple
5000 pairs to go out for 10C
Priority 1 is drawn
3000 people have it as a first pick. All win
Priority 2 is drawn
2500 people have it as a second pick. 2000 win. 500 lose.
Everyone after priority 2 loses
This is not hard.
With respect, you're very wrong because you're oversimplifying the problem space. Your example doesn't have 9 events with people ranking subsets of them. A forum post isn't the place to get into it, but for some enlightening lay-audience-oriented discussion take a look for example here: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/372916/ranked-preference-matching-algorithm or google "ranked matching", "preference matching", "stable matching", "bipartite graphs", etc.
I am not wrong at all. This is how it was done and should be done. It is the only way that makes sense and only way that works.
They do a city
They fill GA first the same order as I said up top. GA is now filled.
They then go to reserved for that same city.
They fill it the same way I listed above until all reserved seats are taken.
Move on to the next city.
The only other option they can do is fill all 9 cities GA's first. Then individually go to each city and do reserved after. It ends up with the same results.
Has anyone used the Fan to Fan thing before? If you want to get rid of a ticket does just it just go up for the first random person to snag or can you specify a recipient?
You place it up for sale and anyone can buy it.
As someone who put in for four shows and have been skunked, I’m very interested in the fan to fan… is there more info about it somewhere? I think I read that starting in May is when tickets can become listed. Thanks in advance!
I found that started off very slow last time but the closer the show date came the more and more seats appeared. You just have to keep an eye on it.
My guess is people with high member numbers will still hear somehting
7xxxxx member here, just got an email for Austin 2. (Not a great seat, sec 215 in the back left of the arena, but at least in the building). Would be nice if Austin 1 comes through as well, but knowing I get the last night of the tour either way is nice.
My guess is people with high member numbers will still hear somehting
This could be the case, but there is no correlation. Member numbers ranging from very low to very high have been getting ticket confirmations. That is on top of the fact that the confirmations range from Priority #1 to Priority #6. There is zero rhyme or reason at this stage.
So, I got a 2nd pair of tix for Austin1. Is this happening to others? Just this show?
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Curious how there can be so many resale listings on seatgeek already…is there anyone who can explain that to me?
Anyone can log into SeatGeek, or Stubhub, or any other ticket site and claim they have tickets and create a listing...speculators looking for suckers to pay them a fortune now, they'll take that cash and buy cheaper tickets later for their buyers
All, it's not totally confusing as to why someone who listed any show as 2nd priority would get a ticket and someone with 1st priority wouldn't. My understanding is they group those in 1st priority, run the randomizer/lottery and issue tickets to those who get picked. Once that's done they do that again for 2nd, 3rd, 4th priority etc until all the allotment is gone.
I could be wrong. Someone let me know if they know otherwise.
No. First priority are drawn first. If tickets remain, they move on to second priority entries. A first priority person should never lose and a second priority person win.
That's not how it's worked for the last few tours I don't believe. Been multiple past examples of 2nd, 3rd priority ppl getting tickets and 1st priority ppl getting nothing. it's caused a lot of butthurt for some folks. My first priority was Chicago N1. Haven't received an email yet. Yet some people at 2nd priority have reported getting reserved tickets.
That is the reason we put priority down. It makes no sense to have priority for pics if it was random as you said. In no way should someone that picked a show as a 2nd get it over someone that put it as a first. That is a broken system
All I'm saying is there was a person here who said they got St Paul tickets for both nights at 5th and 6th priority and then there are people who put those as 1st and/or 2nd priority and haven't heard back yet. I guess they could still get tickets if they're sending out the emails by 10c number.
People are thinking about "priority" wrong here. This has *nothing* to do with who has "priority" to get drawn, it is *only* and *strictly* your own personal prioritization of your preference of shows to attend. How to translate those personal rankings into something that looks fair across a matrix of multiple people ranking multiple instances is an entire field of study and there are a thousand ways to do it depending on what factors are considered more important.
Then what is the point of them asking it? Not looking for a fight, just seems to needlessly complicate things if it doesn't have any impact on what order people get drawn.
Lol right it is so simlple
5000 pairs to go out for 10C
Priority 1 is drawn
3000 people have it as a first pick. All win
Priority 2 is drawn
2500 people have it as a second pick. 2000 win. 500 lose.
Everyone after priority 2 loses
This is not hard.
With respect, you're very wrong because you're oversimplifying the problem space. Your example doesn't have 9 events with people ranking subsets of them. A forum post isn't the place to get into it, but for some enlightening lay-audience-oriented discussion take a look for example here: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/372916/ranked-preference-matching-algorithm or google "ranked matching", "preference matching", "stable matching", "bipartite graphs", etc.
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Then you had the anticipation of seeing what seats you were going to get when you picked up your printed tickets, that probably only cost $60. For some reason, even though that was nearly 2 decades ago, the 10C seats were better then too, despite logic dictating that one's seats should improve over time.
09/22/96 - Toledo
10/16/14 - Detroit
09/26/21 - Dana Point
10/01/21 - Dana Point
10/02/21 - Dana Point
05/06/22 - Los Angeles
05/07/22 - Los Angeles
07/03/22 - Stockholm
07/05/22 - Copenhagen
09/08/22 - Toronto
09/16/22 - Nashville
09/18/22 - St. Louis
09/20/22 - OKC
09/05/23 - Chicago
09/07/23 - Chicago
05/16/24 - Vegas
05/18/24 - Vegas
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
6/18/03 Chicago-United Center
5/17/06 Chicago-United Center
7/19/13 Chicago-Wrigley Field
10/11/13 Pittsburgh-Consol Energy Center
10/17/14 Moline-IWireless Center (No Code)
10/20/14 Milwaukee-Bradley center (Yield)
4/26/16 Lexington-Rupp Arena
8/20/16 Chicago-Wrigley Field
8/22/16 Chicago-Wrigley Field
8/18/18 Chicago-Wrigley Field
8/20/18 Chicago-Wrigley Field
9/5/23 Chicago-United Center
9/7/23 Chicago-United Center
8/29/23 Chicago-Wrigley Field
8/31/23 Chicago-Wrigley Field
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They do a city
They fill GA first the same order as I said up top. GA is now filled.
They then go to reserved for that same city.
They fill it the same way I listed above until all reserved seats are taken.
Move on to the next city.
The only other option they can do is fill all 9 cities GA's first. Then individually go to each city and do reserved after. It ends up with the same results.
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
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I also put in for N1 Chicago, haven't heard yet.
Requested GA/Reserved and Reserved for both.
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth