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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,573
    benjs said:
    It's a hilarious euphemism. Even the SpaceX announcers can't seem to help but smile when they say it.

    In terms of the success/failure of this attempt, there's a huge amount of good data to be learned from this. The sad part of all this is that it's likely the reliability of the engines which caused the failure; they didn't have enough lift to make it past Max Q. I can't imagine this delaying things less than 1-2 more test articles - multiple months, multiple millions.
    absolutely it's actually more of a success than a failure. But imagine if Elon wasn't an idol for the right at the moment; all these conservatives would be laughing their asses off at this RUD. they're too stupid for words. 
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    I wonder if Elon cares what the "special ten" think?
    What, no simple-minded cartoons to post? 

    Sad. 
  • Toronto, ON Posts: 9,385
    edited April 2023
    absolutely it's actually more of a success than a failure. But imagine if Elon wasn't an idol for the right at the moment; all these conservatives would be laughing their asses off at this RUD. they're too stupid for words. 
    Oh, I agree with you, Hugh. My understanding was the mission goal was successful launch (i.e. clearing the tower), nothing more. I'm more speaking to people looking at a test and expecting real launch results and how silly that is. They'd call it a launch, not a test, if that were the case.
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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,573
    edited April 2023
    benjs said:
    Oh, I agree with you, Hugh. My understanding was the mission goal was successful launch (i.e. clearing the tower), nothing more. I'm more speaking to people looking at a test and expecting real launch results and how silly that is. They'd call it a launch, not a test, if that were the case.
    since when are cons so interested in space exploration all of a sudden? it's kind of funny to watch. up until elon turned trumpster, it was "all a waste of money". 
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    I wonder if Elon cares what the "special ten" think?
    I wonder if Elongitaint enjoys Special K? 
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  • St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,229
    benjs said:
    Oh, I agree with you, Hugh. My understanding was the mission goal was successful launch (i.e. clearing the tower), nothing more. I'm more speaking to people looking at a test and expecting real launch results and how silly that is. They'd call it a launch, not a test, if that were the case.
    so basically if it didn't fall over and explode on the ground it was considered a successful launch then.

    by that goal, i got out of bed successfully today.
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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,573
    so basically if it didn't fall over and explode on the ground it was considered a successful launch then.

    by that goal, i got out of bed successfully today.
    breakin' a few eggs, gimme

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    so basically if it didn't fall over and explode on the ground it was considered a successful launch then.

    by that goal, i got out of bed successfully today.
    Haha.. 

    Oops. I didn't
  • Toronto, ON Posts: 9,385
    edited April 2023
    so basically if it didn't fall over and explode on the ground it was considered a successful launch then.

    by that goal, i got out of bed successfully today.
    Well, assuming you launched your way out of bed by farting with the power of 33 rocket engines and your custom-made flame-proof bed remained intact. That said, with that kind of fart, I don't know if the same would be said for your butt. All jokes aside, they refer to the launch tower/apparatus as Stage 0. This was as much a test of Stage 0 as it was the next-gen Starship rockets.
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  • Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    edited April 2023
    Much as I respect and love some of you who thought this was a great thing, I can't help but think of the the environmental impact in terms of pollution (that one rocket probably caused more pollution than my life-time of driving) and the mining involved in producing the metals, etc, the loss of wildlife due to the take off (birds, to start with), the incredible loss of resources, and all that money that could have gone to help people in need.  To me, the whole thing is a horrible waste.
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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,573
    I don't know who's applauding it, Brian. merely stating that in the eyes of those on the project wouldn't view this as a failure just because it blew up. 

    I personally think that past space exploration was definitely a net positive, with all the data and inventions that never would have existed without it, but I don't see the point in trying to colonize Mars, or whatever the hell he's trying to do. who the hell wants to live there. 
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  • Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    I don't know who's applauding it, Brian. merely stating that in the eyes of those on the project wouldn't view this as a failure just because it blew up. 

    I personally think that past space exploration was definitely a net positive, with all the data and inventions that never would have existed without it, but I don't see the point in trying to colonize Mars, or whatever the hell he's trying to do. who the hell wants to live there. 
    Perhaps "applauding" was a overstatement.  I just don't see how a big rocket getting off the ground and then blowing up is anything but a failure, especially with regard to the other things I mentioned.

    OK, I've said my little thing so I'll leave it at that.   I don't want to offend or argue with anyone on this.  Is just me and my silly love of life and the well being of the planet.

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  • Posts: 42,419
    benjs said:
    Well, assuming you launched your way out of bed by farting with the power of 33 rocket engines and your custom-made flame-proof bed remained intact. That said, with that kind of fart, I don't know if the same would be said for your butt. All jokes aside, they refer to the launch tower/apparatus as Stage 0. This was as much a test of Stage 0 as it was the next-gen Starship rockets.

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    And I’ll add that my comment wasn’t necessarily a knock but rather a question regarding potential investment opportunity. Many times a company’s share price drops upon a botched product launch and it may present itself as an opportunity. I understand the trial and error aspect of space exploration and new products but was this an unplanned explosion or designed as part of the test? I don’t follow it or know enough to be a rocket scientist.
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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,573
    it wasn't supposed to explode quite that early; they were hoping it would go for about 30 minutes, but they still apparently gathered a lot of data that they consider it worth it. 
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    it wasn't supposed to explode quite that early; they were hoping it would go for about 30 minutes, but they still apparently gathered a lot of data that they consider it worth it. 
    Wall Street May have considered that a “failure” and share prices may have plunged, making for an opportunity. Elongitaint might just go to Mars some day and let his 6 or 7 interplanetary named offspring inherit his legacy.
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  • St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,229
    i am not applauding it. i am laughing at elon because everything he touches ends up sucking. 
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  • Posts: 1,855
    brianlux said:
    Much as I respect and love some of you who thought this was a great thing, I can't help but think of the the environmental impact in terms of pollution (that one rocket probably caused more pollution than my life-time of driving) and the mining involved in producing the metals, etc, the loss of wildlife due to the take off (birds, to start with), the incredible loss of resources, and all that money that could have gone to help people in need.  To me, the whole thing is a horrible waste.
    I agree.  If we’re not flying as fast as those UFO’s everywhere then it’s time to give up.  Such a waste of money that could be used for better purposes.  And yes, let’s just keep messing with the environment. Can’t wait to watch it implode.   There’s very little left in this country/world that isn’t toxic.  
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    😂😂 best GIF ever. Love  Dave 

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