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cincybearcat said:Cropduster-80 said:cincybearcat said:So - i kinda was under the impression that balance was the best thing for the environment. So why the push for all electric? And why mandatory by the government? Tough to favor a business in such a way....
I haven't look at this in a while. I know that for me, when I bought a new car the end of 2020...just a small sedan...not a big SUV...I looked at some EV and decided against it due to 1) Long haul travel (I don;t do a ton of it, but when I do I try not to stop much...the charging time and mileage was a killer) 2) Cost - it was more expensive then at least 3) Less so, but some concern about paying for a charger setup at my house...added cost.
I can easily be on board though should the infrastructure get into place, should the mileage per charge increase a couple hundred miles and the cost are reasonable. I had initially thought I would be buying electric in 2020 time frame. And I full expect it to be a major player for me in 2026-2028.
you are scaling both up as market penetration increases. If anything a law signals the support for that infrastructure to keep moving.
no mandates means no push. There are a lot of things that need to happen. Electric vehicle companies are supplying cars not the charging network. If they know there is an infrastructure and a push to get people in those cars, then they can confidently increase production.An EV relies on utilising a public utility network so it’s automatically a private/public endeavour and I would think the government needs to be involved. If everyone bought an EV today the grid would crash. That needs to be sorted and not by the car manufacturer
people can’t agree on anything, it’s like herding cats. If anything the government is giving us a direction rather than everyone running around scattershot.We got 16 years to figure out how to change all our lightbulbs so 10 years does seem scary. I get that
Change is scary. My in laws have a closet full of incandescent bulbs to prove that. They did adopt led eventually but they seriously bought out the store in probably 2010
if it changed what you are familiar with it’s tough for a lot of people. All the what if’s and how’s this going to work is a lot to handlePost edited by Cropduster-80 on0 -
Cropduster-80 said:cincybearcat said:Cropduster-80 said:cincybearcat said:So - i kinda was under the impression that balance was the best thing for the environment. So why the push for all electric? And why mandatory by the government? Tough to favor a business in such a way....
I haven't look at this in a while. I know that for me, when I bought a new car the end of 2020...just a small sedan...not a big SUV...I looked at some EV and decided against it due to 1) Long haul travel (I don;t do a ton of it, but when I do I try not to stop much...the charging time and mileage was a killer) 2) Cost - it was more expensive then at least 3) Less so, but some concern about paying for a charger setup at my house...added cost.
I can easily be on board though should the infrastructure get into place, should the mileage per charge increase a couple hundred miles and the cost are reasonable. I had initially thought I would be buying electric in 2020 time frame. And I full expect it to be a major player for me in 2026-2028.
you are scaling both up as market penetration increases. If anything a law signals the support for that infrastructure to keep moving.
no mandates means no push. There are a lot of things that need to happen. Electric vehicle companies are supplying cars not the charging network. If they know there is an infrastructure and a push to get people in those cars, then they can confidently increase production.An EV relies on utilising a public utility network so it’s automatically a private/public endeavour and I would think the government needs to be involved. If everyone bought an EV today the grid would crash. That needs to be sorted and not by the car manufacturer
people can’t agree on anything, it’s like herding cats. If anything the government is giving us a direction rather than everyone running around scattershot.We got 16 years to figure out how to change all our lightbulbs so 10 years does seem scary. I get that
Change is scary. My in laws have a closet full of incandescent bulbs to prove that. They did adopt led eventually but they seriously bought out the store in probably 2010
if it changed what you are familiar with it’s tough for a lot of people.
As I said, make a nice midsized EV Sedan that can get 600 miles on a charge and ensure I can get a charge without much hassle almost whenever I want and I'm in the game.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Incandescent is much nicer than led.www.myspace.com0
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cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:To get this back on the topic of a Biden....how about Jill's shoes for her trip to the disaster area?
And of course I'm joking, but my huge Dem friend sent me a picture with a WTF....a Melania moment for Jill.
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Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:To get this back on the topic of a Biden....how about Jill's shoes for her trip to the disaster area?
And of course I'm joking, but my huge Dem friend sent me a picture with a WTF....a Melania moment for Jill.hippiemom = goodness0 -
And a Tan Suit!!!!!hippiemom = goodness0
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Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:To get this back on the topic of a Biden....how about Jill's shoes for her trip to the disaster area?
And of course I'm joking, but my huge Dem friend sent me a picture with a WTF....a Melania moment for Jill.Like anyone believes that. I’d rather they not wear costumes. I know it’s October
is that a name tag?Post edited by Cropduster-80 on0 -
Cropduster-80 said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:To get this back on the topic of a Biden....how about Jill's shoes for her trip to the disaster area?
And of course I'm joking, but my huge Dem friend sent me a picture with a WTF....a Melania moment for Jill.Like anyone believes that. I’d rather they not wear costumes. I know it’s October
is that a name tag?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:Cropduster-80 said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:To get this back on the topic of a Biden....how about Jill's shoes for her trip to the disaster area?
And of course I'm joking, but my huge Dem friend sent me a picture with a WTF....a Melania moment for Jill.Like anyone believes that. I’d rather they not wear costumes. I know it’s October
is that a name tag?hippiemom = goodness0 -
cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:Cropduster-80 said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:To get this back on the topic of a Biden....how about Jill's shoes for her trip to the disaster area?
And of course I'm joking, but my huge Dem friend sent me a picture with a WTF....a Melania moment for Jill.Like anyone believes that. I’d rather they not wear costumes. I know it’s October
is that a name tag?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:Cropduster-80 said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:To get this back on the topic of a Biden....how about Jill's shoes for her trip to the disaster area?
And of course I'm joking, but my huge Dem friend sent me a picture with a WTF....a Melania moment for Jill.Like anyone believes that. I’d rather they not wear costumes. I know it’s October
is that a name tag?What a wimp
Having 10 toes isn’t a badge of honor to the basePost edited by Cropduster-80 on0 -
Gern Blansten said:I have heard too many problems with the Teslas. I'm sure they are nice cars and must be pretty reliable but I'm not going that route yet.
I drive a 2009 Ford Expedition that only has 109K miles on it. That should at least last me a few more years. I have a 14 mile round trip which is about the extent of its use anymore. It used to be the family truckster but we are almost empty nesters now.
I had a neighbor get a Tesla and within a month or so there was some problem with the battery that she had to deal with. My next door neighbor has one and has no complaints that I know of.0 -
Halifax2TheMax said:
I wonder how many illegal immigrants will be working to clean up the hurricane destruction in Flo Rida? I’ll bet Deathsantis can’t get enough.
“They’re arriving from New York, from Louisiana, from Houston and Dallas,” says Saket Soni, executive director of the nonprofit Resilience Force, which advocates for thousands of disaster response workers. The group is made up largely of immigrants, many of whom are undocumented
good quote:
“What you have now is basically immigrants who are sort of traveling white blood cells of America, who congregate after hurricanes to heal a place, and then move on to heal the next place,”Post edited by Cropduster-80 on0 -
Cropduster-80 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
I wonder how many illegal immigrants will be working to clean up the hurricane destruction in Flo Rida? I’ll bet Deathsantis can’t get enough.
“They’re arriving from New York, from Louisiana, from Houston and Dallas,” says Saket Soni, executive director of the nonprofit Resilience Force, which advocates for thousands of disaster response workers. The group is made up largely of immigrants, many of whom are undocumented
good quote:
“What you have now is basically immigrants who are sort of traveling white blood cells of America, who congregate after hurricanes to heal a place, and then move on to heal the next place,”09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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tempo_n_groove said:Gern Blansten said:I have heard too many problems with the Teslas. I'm sure they are nice cars and must be pretty reliable but I'm not going that route yet.
I drive a 2009 Ford Expedition that only has 109K miles on it. That should at least last me a few more years. I have a 14 mile round trip which is about the extent of its use anymore. It used to be the family truckster but we are almost empty nesters now.
I had a neighbor get a Tesla and within a month or so there was some problem with the battery that she had to deal with. My next door neighbor has one and has no complaints that I know of.
The first time I was ever in a Tesla was last week, on an uber ride. The doors felt paper thin, it was loud. I mean the big ass screen was kind of cool, but too obtrusive at the same time. I have a 20 year old M5 and 21 year old M3 and they are much better vehicles than that Tesla.
I know we need to move to all electrics, but I was kind of hoping I'd be dead before it all happened. Same thing with self driving cars.0 -
Halifax2TheMax said:Cropduster-80 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
I wonder how many illegal immigrants will be working to clean up the hurricane destruction in Flo Rida? I’ll bet Deathsantis can’t get enough.
“They’re arriving from New York, from Louisiana, from Houston and Dallas,” says Saket Soni, executive director of the nonprofit Resilience Force, which advocates for thousands of disaster response workers. The group is made up largely of immigrants, many of whom are undocumented
good quote:
“What you have now is basically immigrants who are sort of traveling white blood cells of America, who congregate after hurricanes to heal a place, and then move on to heal the next place,”Scio me nihil scire
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static111 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Cropduster-80 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
I wonder how many illegal immigrants will be working to clean up the hurricane destruction in Flo Rida? I’ll bet Deathsantis can’t get enough.
“They’re arriving from New York, from Louisiana, from Houston and Dallas,” says Saket Soni, executive director of the nonprofit Resilience Force, which advocates for thousands of disaster response workers. The group is made up largely of immigrants, many of whom are undocumented
good quote:
“What you have now is basically immigrants who are sort of traveling white blood cells of America, who congregate after hurricanes to heal a place, and then move on to heal the next place,”09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:static111 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Cropduster-80 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
I wonder how many illegal immigrants will be working to clean up the hurricane destruction in Flo Rida? I’ll bet Deathsantis can’t get enough.
“They’re arriving from New York, from Louisiana, from Houston and Dallas,” says Saket Soni, executive director of the nonprofit Resilience Force, which advocates for thousands of disaster response workers. The group is made up largely of immigrants, many of whom are undocumented
good quote:
“What you have now is basically immigrants who are sort of traveling white blood cells of America, who congregate after hurricanes to heal a place, and then move on to heal the next place,”
The Republican conspiracy theorists haven’t picked up on that yet? Weird0
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