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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,170
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    joint fundraising committee? gold card? for what? so I can be a card carrying dumbfuck?


    as I suspected, I have in fact received an email every day since inviting me to rsvp.

    looked up the venue, small arena, 7000 capacity listed for concerts,  5700 for hockey.

    I find it SAD he hasn't gotten 7k rsvp's yet, which the daily email suggests to me.

    also find it laughable the logo that shows up on my inbox for each email is the trump/pence logo......

    3 emails today. all in the past 3 hours....
    I have a feeling most of the attendees of these things travel across the country to see him every week. Like it's probably filled with most of the same qanon people and then he struggles to fill the rest of the place with local loonies. 
     
    So, he's like Pearl Jam?
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,638
    Poncier said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    joint fundraising committee? gold card? for what? so I can be a card carrying dumbfuck?


    as I suspected, I have in fact received an email every day since inviting me to rsvp.

    looked up the venue, small arena, 7000 capacity listed for concerts,  5700 for hockey.

    I find it SAD he hasn't gotten 7k rsvp's yet, which the daily email suggests to me.

    also find it laughable the logo that shows up on my inbox for each email is the trump/pence logo......

    3 emails today. all in the past 3 hours....
    I have a feeling most of the attendees of these things travel across the country to see him every week. Like it's probably filled with most of the same qanon people and then he struggles to fill the rest of the place with local loonies. 
     
    So, he's like Pearl Jam?
    With shorter merch lines 
  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    nicknyr15 said:
    Poncier said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    joint fundraising committee? gold card? for what? so I can be a card carrying dumbfuck?


    as I suspected, I have in fact received an email every day since inviting me to rsvp.

    looked up the venue, small arena, 7000 capacity listed for concerts,  5700 for hockey.

    I find it SAD he hasn't gotten 7k rsvp's yet, which the daily email suggests to me.

    also find it laughable the logo that shows up on my inbox for each email is the trump/pence logo......

    3 emails today. all in the past 3 hours....
    I have a feeling most of the attendees of these things travel across the country to see him every week. Like it's probably filled with most of the same qanon people and then he struggles to fill the rest of the place with local loonies. 
     
    So, he's like Pearl Jam?
    With shorter merch lines 
    OFFICIAL merch lines
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    He back in Florida and NOW he mad the FBI agents didn't take their shoes off when they searched his bedroom.

    What a pansy...I mean super tough guy.
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • ikiT said:
    He back in Florida and NOW he mad the FBI agents didn't take their shoes off when they searched his bedroom.

    What a pansy...I mean super tough guy.

    Musta laid off the housekeeping staff. I mean fired as there’s no way POOTWH is paying unemployment. How long ago was it that the FBI was goose stepping through his bedroom in Jack boots?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,409
    fbi needs to search every property he owns that he's been to since slinking off in disgrace for whatever else may be missing.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    Poncier said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    joint fundraising committee? gold card? for what? so I can be a card carrying dumbfuck?


    as I suspected, I have in fact received an email every day since inviting me to rsvp.

    looked up the venue, small arena, 7000 capacity listed for concerts,  5700 for hockey.

    I find it SAD he hasn't gotten 7k rsvp's yet, which the daily email suggests to me.

    also find it laughable the logo that shows up on my inbox for each email is the trump/pence logo......

    3 emails today. all in the past 3 hours....
    I have a feeling most of the attendees of these things travel across the country to see him every week. Like it's probably filled with most of the same qanon people and then he struggles to fill the rest of the place with local loonies. 
     
    So, he's like Pearl Jam?
    haha you beat me to it
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

    HFD




  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    He thinks he's a rockstar, but YO them venues don't fill themselves.  You gotta have people who want what yer sellin'. 
    Arena rock ain't for errybody.

    Nothing against Chris Barron, but The Spin Doctors are not the same as The Rolling Stones.

    Time waits for no one.

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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    mickeyrat said:
    fbi needs to search every property he owns that he's been to since slinking off in disgrace for whatever else may be missing.
    AND this.  Like today.
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018

  • And some were saying, and some still are, that it can’t happen here.
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  • First time seeing this….it’s totally fucked up. 

  • Ok should we take solace in the fact that not everyone is doing it? 
  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    OK.  this FINALLY makes sense to me.

    https://youtu.be/nS5_EQgbuLc

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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    LOUDER

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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007

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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007

    Ok should we take solace in the fact that not everyone is doing it? 
    NOPE
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,600
    I don't know that they are Nazis.  They are weak minded, that's for sure.   Their delusions are not limited to Trump.  

  • “The things we do for the orange Jesus.” Let that sink in. Said by Liz Cheney, by the way.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,409
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  • 09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN;

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,409
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  • mrussel1 said:
    I don't know that they are Nazis.  They are weak minded, that's for sure.   Their delusions are not limited to Trump.  

    They’re embracing fascism to maintain the status quo & scapegoating / blaming others for their misery. No, it’s not right at this point in time to say MAGAs are the same as Nazis; but there are parallels / similarities between the movements. 
  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    They're fascists.

    This is literally the picture next to the word, according to BING.


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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    mrussel1 said:
    I don't know that they are Nazis.  They are weak minded, that's for sure.   Their delusions are not limited to Trump.  

    They’re embracing fascism to maintain the status quo & scapegoating / blaming others for their misery. No, it’s not right at this point in time to say MAGAs are the same as Nazis; but there are parallels / similarities between the movements. 
    I think they are embracing facism and scapegoating others because they don't know who to blame and don't understand where the prosperity went.  Trump is a useful focus for this energy.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,411
    ikiT said:
    They're fascists.

    This is literally the picture next to the word, according to BING.



    haven’t you heard that the definition of fascism has been changed by the cabal?
  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,409
    kinda thinking this isnt what fuckstick and team had in mind.....


     
    Arbiter in Trump docs probe signals intent to move quickly
    By ERIC TUCKER and MICHAEL R. SISAK
    35 mins ago

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The independent arbiter tasked with inspecting documents seized in an FBI search of former President Donald Trump's Florida home said Tuesday he intends to push briskly though the review process and appeared skeptical of the Trump team's reluctance to say whether it believed the records had been declassified.

    “We're going to proceed with what I call responsible dispatch," Raymond Dearie, a veteran Brooklyn judge, told lawyers for Trump and the Justice Department in their first meeting since his appointment last week as a so-called special master.

    The purpose of the meeting was to sort out next steps in a review process expected to slow by weeks, if not months, the criminal investigation into the retention of top-secret information at Mar-a-Lago after Trump left the White House. As special master, Dearie will be responsible for sifting through the thousands of documents recovered during the Aug. 8 FBI search and segregating those protected by claims of executive privilege or attorney-client privilege.

    Though Trump's lawyers had requested the appointment of a special master to ensure an independent review of the documents, one of the former president's attorneys, James Trusty, made clear they were concerned that Dearie's proposed deadlines were too ambitious.

    The lawyers are also resisting Dearie's request for information about whether the seized records had been declassified, as Trump has maintained. In a letter to Dearie on Monday night, the lawyers said that issue could be part of Trump’s defense in the event of an indictment.

    But Dearie appeared unsatisfied with that position. He said if Trump's lawyers will not actually assert that the records have been declassified and the Justice Department instead makes an acceptable case that they remain classified, then “as far as I'm concerned, that's the end of it.”

    Trusty said the Trump team should not be forced at this point to disclose a possible defense based on the idea that the records had been declassified. He denied that the lawyers were trying to engage in “gamesmanship” but instead believed it was a process that required “baby steps.”

    But Dearie at one point observed: “I guess my view of it is, you can’t have your cake and eat it” too.

    Trump has maintained without evidence that all of the records were declassified; his lawyers have not echoed that claim, though they have repeatedly asserted that a president has absolute authority to declassify information, and they said in a separate filing Tuesday that the Justice Department had not proven that the records remained classified.

    “As someone who has been president of the United States, he has unfettered access along with unfettered declassification authority,” Trusty said Tuesday.

    The resistance to the judge’s request was notable because it was Trump’s lawyers, not the Justice Department, who had requested the appointment of a special master and because the recalcitrance included an acknowledgment that the probe could be building toward an indictment.

    In the letter, Trump’s lawyers said the time for addressing that question would be if they pressed forward with demands for the Justice Department to return some of the property taken from Mar-a-Lago.

    “Otherwise, the Special Master process will have forced the Plaintiff to fully and specifically disclose a defense to the merits of any subsequent indictment.” they wrote.

    The Trump team also asked the judge to consider pushing back all of the deadlines for his review. That work includes inspecting the roughly 11,000 documents, including about 100 marked as classified, that were taken during the FBI's search.

    U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, a Trump appointee who granted the Trump team's request for a special master, had set a Nov. 30 deadline for Dearie's review and instructed him to prioritize his inspection of classified records. The Justice Department has asked a federal appeals court to halt Cannon's order requiring it to provide him with classified documents for his review. That appeal is pending.

    Dearie, a Ronald Reagan appointee whose name is on the atrium of his Brooklyn courthouse, made clear during Tuesday's meeting that he intended to meet the deadlines, saying there was “little time” to complete the assigned tasks.

    Julie Edelstein, a Justice Department lawyer, said she was hopeful that the department could get the documents digitized and provided to Trump's lawyers by early next week. She noted that the department had given the legal team a list of five vendors approved by the government for the purposes of scanning, hosting and otherwise processing the seized records.

    After some haggling, Dearie instructed Trusty's lawyers to choose a vendor by Friday.

    Earlier Tuesday, the Trump legal team urged the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit to leave in place Cannon's order temporarily barring the Justice Department's use of the classified records for its criminal investigation while Dearie completes his review. The department has said that order has impeded its investigation into the presence of top-secret information at Mar-a-Lago.

    Trump's lawyers called those concerns overblown, saying investigators could still do other work on the probe even without scrutinizing the seized records.

    “Ultimately, any brief delay to the criminal investigation will not irreparably harm the Government,” Trump's lawyers wrote. “The injunction does not preclude the Government from conducting a criminal investigation, it merely delays the investigation for a short period while a neutral third party reviews the documents in question.”

    _____

    Sisak reported from New York.

    Follow AP's coverage of the search at Mar-a-Lago at https://apnews.com/hub/mar-a-lago


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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,129
    mickeyrat said:
    kinda thinking this isnt what fuckstick and team had in mind.....


     
    Arbiter in Trump docs probe signals intent to move quickly
    By ERIC TUCKER and MICHAEL R. SISAK
    35 mins ago

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The independent arbiter tasked with inspecting documents seized in an FBI search of former President Donald Trump's Florida home said Tuesday he intends to push briskly though the review process and appeared skeptical of the Trump team's reluctance to say whether it believed the records had been declassified.

    “We're going to proceed with what I call responsible dispatch," Raymond Dearie, a veteran Brooklyn judge, told lawyers for Trump and the Justice Department in their first meeting since his appointment last week as a so-called special master.

    The purpose of the meeting was to sort out next steps in a review process expected to slow by weeks, if not months, the criminal investigation into the retention of top-secret information at Mar-a-Lago after Trump left the White House. As special master, Dearie will be responsible for sifting through the thousands of documents recovered during the Aug. 8 FBI search and segregating those protected by claims of executive privilege or attorney-client privilege.

    Though Trump's lawyers had requested the appointment of a special master to ensure an independent review of the documents, one of the former president's attorneys, James Trusty, made clear they were concerned that Dearie's proposed deadlines were too ambitious.

    The lawyers are also resisting Dearie's request for information about whether the seized records had been declassified, as Trump has maintained. In a letter to Dearie on Monday night, the lawyers said that issue could be part of Trump’s defense in the event of an indictment.

    But Dearie appeared unsatisfied with that position. He said if Trump's lawyers will not actually assert that the records have been declassified and the Justice Department instead makes an acceptable case that they remain classified, then “as far as I'm concerned, that's the end of it.”

    Trusty said the Trump team should not be forced at this point to disclose a possible defense based on the idea that the records had been declassified. He denied that the lawyers were trying to engage in “gamesmanship” but instead believed it was a process that required “baby steps.”

    But Dearie at one point observed: “I guess my view of it is, you can’t have your cake and eat it” too.

    Trump has maintained without evidence that all of the records were declassified; his lawyers have not echoed that claim, though they have repeatedly asserted that a president has absolute authority to declassify information, and they said in a separate filing Tuesday that the Justice Department had not proven that the records remained classified.

    “As someone who has been president of the United States, he has unfettered access along with unfettered declassification authority,” Trusty said Tuesday.

    The resistance to the judge’s request was notable because it was Trump’s lawyers, not the Justice Department, who had requested the appointment of a special master and because the recalcitrance included an acknowledgment that the probe could be building toward an indictment.

    In the letter, Trump’s lawyers said the time for addressing that question would be if they pressed forward with demands for the Justice Department to return some of the property taken from Mar-a-Lago.

    “Otherwise, the Special Master process will have forced the Plaintiff to fully and specifically disclose a defense to the merits of any subsequent indictment.” they wrote.

    The Trump team also asked the judge to consider pushing back all of the deadlines for his review. That work includes inspecting the roughly 11,000 documents, including about 100 marked as classified, that were taken during the FBI's search.

    U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, a Trump appointee who granted the Trump team's request for a special master, had set a Nov. 30 deadline for Dearie's review and instructed him to prioritize his inspection of classified records. The Justice Department has asked a federal appeals court to halt Cannon's order requiring it to provide him with classified documents for his review. That appeal is pending.

    Dearie, a Ronald Reagan appointee whose name is on the atrium of his Brooklyn courthouse, made clear during Tuesday's meeting that he intended to meet the deadlines, saying there was “little time” to complete the assigned tasks.

    Julie Edelstein, a Justice Department lawyer, said she was hopeful that the department could get the documents digitized and provided to Trump's lawyers by early next week. She noted that the department had given the legal team a list of five vendors approved by the government for the purposes of scanning, hosting and otherwise processing the seized records.

    After some haggling, Dearie instructed Trusty's lawyers to choose a vendor by Friday.

    Earlier Tuesday, the Trump legal team urged the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit to leave in place Cannon's order temporarily barring the Justice Department's use of the classified records for its criminal investigation while Dearie completes his review. The department has said that order has impeded its investigation into the presence of top-secret information at Mar-a-Lago.

    Trump's lawyers called those concerns overblown, saying investigators could still do other work on the probe even without scrutinizing the seized records.

    “Ultimately, any brief delay to the criminal investigation will not irreparably harm the Government,” Trump's lawyers wrote. “The injunction does not preclude the Government from conducting a criminal investigation, it merely delays the investigation for a short period while a neutral third party reviews the documents in question.”

    _____

    Sisak reported from New York.

    Follow AP's coverage of the search at Mar-a-Lago at https://apnews.com/hub/mar-a-lago


    is anyone surprised? when you hire the 3 stooges to be your attorneys, you have to expect shitty lawyering.
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