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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,774
    edited September 2022
    Am reading the fake Letitia James summons for the continued witch hunt and suggest, thus far, that if you read any part of it, you read pages 13 through 16 to get a sampling of the alleged fraud. There are 8 examples, some with sub parts, and are representative of a chart they put together as an Exhibit, by category on either side of the ledger.

    If any of us tried to pull this shit, we’d be criminally charged and in prison already. Oh, and POOTWH and The Dumb One plead the 5th to the most basic of questions of fact. What was that you say? Only the guilty plea the fifth? Oh, and POOTWH offered to settle pre-summons.

    I’m sure it’s just an honest mistake and a mixup. Just like the Capitol insurrection coup attempt was a tourist visit and the unsecured storage of highly classified documents is just a document storage dispute. Let me know when Hillary and Obama are indicted.

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,823

    Trump Had a Day

    And it might get worse

    NY Attorney General Letitia James announcing that her office is suing former President Donald Trump and three of his children. (Photo by Michael M. Santiago/Getty Images)

    Well, well, well. Let’s just say that Donald Trump has had better days. 

    This could be one of his worst, but there may be far worse ones coming down the line if today turns out to be a preface and not a denouement. 

    This morning started off bad enough. 

    New York Attorney General Letitia James made it known that she was going to issue a “major announcement.” And she did not disappoint. The lawsuit she filed in state court is in essence a guided missile aimed right at the heart of the Trump family business. Calling the level of fraud she uncovered “staggering,” James outlined a list of facts that could have been a plotline in The Sopranos

    And it isn't just the patriarch in her legal crosshairs. The three children who have been foisted upon the American public — Don Jr., Eric, and Ivanka — also earned starring roles in the court papers. 

    While this is a civil suit, that’s because James is limited from bringing criminal charges. She did refer her findings to federal prosecutors in Manhattan, but if they choose to press forward, they will likely have to get in line. 

    That’s because as rough as this morning’s news cycle was for Trump, more pain was in the offing. 

    This evening, the 11th Circuit ruled on the outrage that has been festering over the investigation into the classified documents the former president took (for still unknown reasons, at least publicly) to Mar-a-Lago. 

    If Trump was hoping that Trump judges at the appellate level would fall in line like Judge Cannon (the district judge who’s done legal backflips well beyond the bounds of precedent or prudence to accommodate Trump), he was sorely mistaken. Two Trump judges sided with an Obama appointee to issue a stinging rebuke of the lower court’s ruling — a ruling that most judicial experts had felt was about as serious as an episode of Laugh In

    I will leave it to legal scholars to parse the specifics of the lawsuits and rulings, but some big things are clear. One, Trump is in trouble. Big trouble. And not the kind of trouble that he can squirm his way out of by bloviating to Sean Hannity or browbeating Mitch McConnell. He’s on the defensive, and pressure is closing in from all directions. 

    The timing of these quickening drumbeats of scrutiny overlap with the final stretch of the midterm elections — into which Trump has vociferously inserted himself according to the only metric he knows: what benefits him. November thus is shaping up to be a referendum on Trumpism, to the dismay of many Republican officials. But those same Republicans have made a decision en masse to embrace Trump, at least publicly. From a cynical political calculus one can understand why. The Republican base is the Trump base, or maybe it’s more accurate to put that the other way around. 

    It is also clear that the core of this base is not enough to power Republicans to majorities in Congress. And yet, if the base stays home, Republicans also will lose. 

    With so much at stake, the unknowns hanging over Trump and his legal jeopardy are very consequential. How bad might this get for Trump and those who have fastened themselves to him? Will more be revealed? Will any Republicans decide that they need to separate themselves from Trump? Will that lead to disarray within the party as election day approaches? All of this is possible. But it is also possible that Trump skates by once again, at least for now. It is possible that Republicans take back Congress, and they frame their victory as a validation of Trumpism, nevermind what it means for the health and security of the country. 

    Right now it looks like a close election, but tides can shift, sometimes drastically. Support can crumble. What once looked like strength can be recast as weakness. Just ask one of the few people having a rougher go of it of late than Trump — Vladimir Putin. 

    Oh, and in other late-breaking news, the January 6th committee has come to an agreement to interview Clarence Thomas’s wife Ginni Thomas. Can’t forget about that investigation. 

    One imagines all is not quiet tonight in Mar-a-Lago.

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  • Just a handful of crazies, absolutely nothing to be concerned about, as long as I get to keep my cushy executive role and be business pals with my beloved moderate republicans who support this with their votes.


    edit, for those who don’t know, the one held up by current republicans, is a direct use of the THREAT of violence 
    Pearl Jam fans light up the sky as band covers Imagine during S America  tour opener - Consequence
    I'm kidding but cmon, a Hitler salute and finger pointing are the same?  If they were throwing up that OK symbol I'd agree.
  • mickeyrat said:

    Trump Had a Day

    And it might get worse

    NY Attorney General Letitia James announcing that her office is suing former President Donald Trump and three of his children. (Photo by Michael M. Santiago/Getty Images)

    Well, well, well. Let’s just say that Donald Trump has had better days. 

    This could be one of his worst, but there may be far worse ones coming down the line if today turns out to be a preface and not a denouement. 

    This morning started off bad enough. 

    New York Attorney General Letitia James made it known that she was going to issue a “major announcement.” And she did not disappoint. The lawsuit she filed in state court is in essence a guided missile aimed right at the heart of the Trump family business. Calling the level of fraud she uncovered “staggering,” James outlined a list of facts that could have been a plotline in The Sopranos

    And it isn't just the patriarch in her legal crosshairs. The three children who have been foisted upon the American public — Don Jr., Eric, and Ivanka — also earned starring roles in the court papers. 

    While this is a civil suit, that’s because James is limited from bringing criminal charges. She did refer her findings to federal prosecutors in Manhattan, but if they choose to press forward, they will likely have to get in line. 

    That’s because as rough as this morning’s news cycle was for Trump, more pain was in the offing. 

    This evening, the 11th Circuit ruled on the outrage that has been festering over the investigation into the classified documents the former president took (for still unknown reasons, at least publicly) to Mar-a-Lago. 

    If Trump was hoping that Trump judges at the appellate level would fall in line like Judge Cannon (the district judge who’s done legal backflips well beyond the bounds of precedent or prudence to accommodate Trump), he was sorely mistaken. Two Trump judges sided with an Obama appointee to issue a stinging rebuke of the lower court’s ruling — a ruling that most judicial experts had felt was about as serious as an episode of Laugh In

    I will leave it to legal scholars to parse the specifics of the lawsuits and rulings, but some big things are clear. One, Trump is in trouble. Big trouble. And not the kind of trouble that he can squirm his way out of by bloviating to Sean Hannity or browbeating Mitch McConnell. He’s on the defensive, and pressure is closing in from all directions. 

    The timing of these quickening drumbeats of scrutiny overlap with the final stretch of the midterm elections — into which Trump has vociferously inserted himself according to the only metric he knows: what benefits him. November thus is shaping up to be a referendum on Trumpism, to the dismay of many Republican officials. But those same Republicans have made a decision en masse to embrace Trump, at least publicly. From a cynical political calculus one can understand why. The Republican base is the Trump base, or maybe it’s more accurate to put that the other way around. 

    It is also clear that the core of this base is not enough to power Republicans to majorities in Congress. And yet, if the base stays home, Republicans also will lose. 

    With so much at stake, the unknowns hanging over Trump and his legal jeopardy are very consequential. How bad might this get for Trump and those who have fastened themselves to him? Will more be revealed? Will any Republicans decide that they need to separate themselves from Trump? Will that lead to disarray within the party as election day approaches? All of this is possible. But it is also possible that Trump skates by once again, at least for now. It is possible that Republicans take back Congress, and they frame their victory as a validation of Trumpism, nevermind what it means for the health and security of the country. 

    Right now it looks like a close election, but tides can shift, sometimes drastically. Support can crumble. What once looked like strength can be recast as weakness. Just ask one of the few people having a rougher go of it of late than Trump — Vladimir Putin. 

    Oh, and in other late-breaking news, the January 6th committee has come to an agreement to interview Clarence Thomas’s wife Ginni Thomas. Can’t forget about that investigation. 

    One imagines all is not quiet tonight in Mar-a-Lago.

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    I am hoping that this stops him from running for president next election.  Either that or he will be hell bent and try and start a civil war.  He's a big baby and doesn't like losing.
  • Gern Blansten
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    And Desantis is looming large over him....which has to be driving him nuts. tRump won't be able to stand any 2024 spotlight being taken off of him.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited September 2022





    Just a handful of crazies, absolutely nothing to be concerned about, as long as I get to keep my cushy executive role and be business pals with my beloved moderate republicans who support this with their votes.


    edit, for those who don’t know, the one held up by current republicans, is a direct use of the THREAT of violence 
    Pearl Jam fans light up the sky as band covers Imagine during S America  tour opener - Consequence
    I'm kidding but cmon, a Hitler salute and finger pointing are the same?  If they were throwing up that OK symbol I'd agree.
    They were throwing up a qanon symbol with their index fingers. They're brainwashed wackos just like those people from Germany were. 
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  • Just a handful of crazies, absolutely nothing to be concerned about, as long as I get to keep my cushy executive role and be business pals with my beloved moderate republicans who support this with their votes.


    edit, for those who don’t know, the one held up by current republicans, is a direct use of the THREAT of violence 
    Pearl Jam fans light up the sky as band covers Imagine during S America  tour opener - Consequence
    I'm kidding but cmon, a Hitler salute and finger pointing are the same?  If they were throwing up that OK symbol I'd agree.
    Know less about fascism. 
  • “There doesn’t have to be a process, as I understand it,” he told Hannity. “You’re the president of the United States. You can declassify just by saying, ‘It’s declassified.’ Even by thinking about it.”
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-declassification-mind-power_n_632bc629e4b05db5206aad2c





  • Just a handful of crazies, absolutely nothing to be concerned about, as long as I get to keep my cushy executive role and be business pals with my beloved moderate republicans who support this with their votes.


    edit, for those who don’t know, the one held up by current republicans, is a direct use of the THREAT of violence 
    Pearl Jam fans light up the sky as band covers Imagine during S America  tour opener - Consequence
    I'm kidding but cmon, a Hitler salute and finger pointing are the same?  If they were throwing up that OK symbol I'd agree.
    They were throwing up a qanon symbol with their index fingers. They're brainwashed wackos just like those people from Germany were. 
    Didn't Q adopt the OK symbol too?  I didn't know they are doing the index finger thing now.  That's new.

    I just read up on the pointing thing and nobody is sure what it is yet but you are probably right.  





  • Just a handful of crazies, absolutely nothing to be concerned about, as long as I get to keep my cushy executive role and be business pals with my beloved moderate republicans who support this with their votes.


    edit, for those who don’t know, the one held up by current republicans, is a direct use of the THREAT of violence 
    Pearl Jam fans light up the sky as band covers Imagine during S America  tour opener - Consequence
    I'm kidding but cmon, a Hitler salute and finger pointing are the same?  If they were throwing up that OK symbol I'd agree.
    Know less about fascism. 
    You know what's interesting. If they actually get facism, how many will realize they screwed up wanting that?  No way it's 35% of the population?
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,937
    “There doesn’t have to be a process, as I understand it,” he told Hannity. “You’re the president of the United States. You can declassify just by saying, ‘It’s declassified.’ Even by thinking about it.”
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-declassification-mind-power_n_632bc629e4b05db5206aad2c
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    an oldie but a goody...

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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,135
    edited September 2022





    Just a handful of crazies, absolutely nothing to be concerned about, as long as I get to keep my cushy executive role and be business pals with my beloved moderate republicans who support this with their votes.


    edit, for those who don’t know, the one held up by current republicans, is a direct use of the THREAT of violence 
    Pearl Jam fans light up the sky as band covers Imagine during S America  tour opener - Consequence
    I'm kidding but cmon, a Hitler salute and finger pointing are the same?  If they were throwing up that OK symbol I'd agree.
    Know less about fascism. 
    You know what's interesting. If they actually get facism, how many will realize they screwed up wanting that?  No way it's 35% of the population?

    It doesn’t need to be violent, despite the fact that senior senate leaders seem to be alright with the violence among their base. 

    Denying access to voting, and fair counting and certification, is all part of the fascist American uprising being  dismissed by moderates.



    edit, regarding the salute

    Former President Donald Trump appeared at a rally on Saturday in Youngstown, Ohio, which featured music similar to the anthem of QAnon and supporters giving a one-finger salute.

    USA Today, The New York Times and Business Insider reported that Trump was at the rally to support Ohio Senate candidate J.D. Vance. As Trump spoke, people reportedly raised an arm with their index finger pointed as they cheered.

    The background music, The New York Times reported, sounded similar to a QAnon song called "Wwg1wga," which stands for “where we go one, we go all.”

    The salute, however, was a different story.

    While The Washington Post and British newspaper The Guardian reported that some political observers pointed out the one-finger salute resembled another salute that the Nazis used, NBC News reporter Ben Collins and The New York Times reported that the salute was probably in reference to the QAnon song.









  • Just a handful of crazies, absolutely nothing to be concerned about, as long as I get to keep my cushy executive role and be business pals with my beloved moderate republicans who support this with their votes.


    edit, for those who don’t know, the one held up by current republicans, is a direct use of the THREAT of violence 
    Pearl Jam fans light up the sky as band covers Imagine during S America  tour opener - Consequence
    I'm kidding but cmon, a Hitler salute and finger pointing are the same?  If they were throwing up that OK symbol I'd agree.
    Know less about fascism. 
    You know what's interesting. If they actually get facism, how many will realize they screwed up wanting that?  No way it's 35% of the population?

    It doesn’t need to be violent, despite the fact that senior senate leaders seem to be alright with the violence among their base. 

    Denying access to voting, and fair counting and certification, is all part of the fascist American uprising being  dismissed by moderates.



    edit, regarding the salute

    Former President Donald Trump appeared at a rally on Saturday in Youngstown, Ohio, which featured music similar to the anthem of QAnon and supporters giving a one-finger salute.

    USA Today, The New York Times and Business Insider reported that Trump was at the rally to support Ohio Senate candidate J.D. Vance. As Trump spoke, people reportedly raised an arm with their index finger pointed as they cheered.

    The background music, The New York Times reported, sounded similar to a QAnon song called "Wwg1wga," which stands for “where we go one, we go all.”

    The salute, however, was a different story.

    While The Washington Post and British newspaper The Guardian reported that some political observers pointed out the one-finger salute resembled another salute that the Nazis used, NBC News reporter Ben Collins and The New York Times reported that the salute was probably in reference to the QAnon song.




    Yes I read that.  Calling the finger pointing a Nazi salute is just dumb though.  I see that as people whom don't care for them or their politics and it's headline grabbing and not very good journalism.

    I have never read that finger pointing resembled a Nazi salute until today.





  • Just a handful of crazies, absolutely nothing to be concerned about, as long as I get to keep my cushy executive role and be business pals with my beloved moderate republicans who support this with their votes.


    edit, for those who don’t know, the one held up by current republicans, is a direct use of the THREAT of violence 
    Pearl Jam fans light up the sky as band covers Imagine during S America  tour opener - Consequence
    I'm kidding but cmon, a Hitler salute and finger pointing are the same?  If they were throwing up that OK symbol I'd agree.
    Know less about fascism. 
    You know what's interesting. If they actually get facism, how many will realize they screwed up wanting that?  No way it's 35% of the population?

    It doesn’t need to be violent, despite the fact that senior senate leaders seem to be alright with the violence among their base. 

    Denying access to voting, and fair counting and certification, is all part of the fascist American uprising being  dismissed by moderates.



    edit, regarding the salute

    Former President Donald Trump appeared at a rally on Saturday in Youngstown, Ohio, which featured music similar to the anthem of QAnon and supporters giving a one-finger salute.

    USA Today, The New York Times and Business Insider reported that Trump was at the rally to support Ohio Senate candidate J.D. Vance. As Trump spoke, people reportedly raised an arm with their index finger pointed as they cheered.

    The background music, The New York Times reported, sounded similar to a QAnon song called "Wwg1wga," which stands for “where we go one, we go all.”

    The salute, however, was a different story.

    While The Washington Post and British newspaper The Guardian reported that some political observers pointed out the one-finger salute resembled another salute that the Nazis used, NBC News reporter Ben Collins and The New York Times reported that the salute was probably in reference to the QAnon song.




    Yes I read that.  Calling the finger pointing a Nazi salute is just dumb though.  I see that as people whom don't care for them or their politics and it's headline grabbing and not very good journalism.

    I have never read that finger pointing resembled a Nazi salute until today.

    Who said finger pointing is a nazi salute? 

    I compared one fascist crowd to another and suggested they're the same. Sorry if the nuance was lost on you. 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,641
    edited September 2022





    Just a handful of crazies, absolutely nothing to be concerned about, as long as I get to keep my cushy executive role and be business pals with my beloved moderate republicans who support this with their votes.


    edit, for those who don’t know, the one held up by current republicans, is a direct use of the THREAT of violence 
    Pearl Jam fans light up the sky as band covers Imagine during S America  tour opener - Consequence
    I'm kidding but cmon, a Hitler salute and finger pointing are the same?  If they were throwing up that OK symbol I'd agree.
    Know less about fascism. 
    You know what's interesting. If they actually get facism, how many will realize they screwed up wanting that?  No way it's 35% of the population?

    It doesn’t need to be violent, despite the fact that senior senate leaders seem to be alright with the violence among their base. 

    Denying access to voting, and fair counting and certification, is all part of the fascist American uprising being  dismissed by moderates.



    edit, regarding the salute

    Former President Donald Trump appeared at a rally on Saturday in Youngstown, Ohio, which featured music similar to the anthem of QAnon and supporters giving a one-finger salute.

    USA Today, The New York Times and Business Insider reported that Trump was at the rally to support Ohio Senate candidate J.D. Vance. As Trump spoke, people reportedly raised an arm with their index finger pointed as they cheered.

    The background music, The New York Times reported, sounded similar to a QAnon song called "Wwg1wga," which stands for “where we go one, we go all.”

    The salute, however, was a different story.

    While The Washington Post and British newspaper The Guardian reported that some political observers pointed out the one-finger salute resembled another salute that the Nazis used, NBC News reporter Ben Collins and The New York Times reported that the salute was probably in reference to the QAnon song.




    Yes I read that.  Calling the finger pointing a Nazi salute is just dumb though.  I see that as people whom don't care for them or their politics and it's headline grabbing and not very good journalism.

    I have never read that finger pointing resembled a Nazi salute until today.

    Who said finger pointing is a nazi salute? 

    I compared one fascist crowd to another and suggested they're the same. Sorry if the nuance was lost on you. 
    If you read what I just quoted then you would have got the reference, sorry that was lost on you. Nuance is a stretch. I still think it's lazy reporting.

    The salute, however, was a different story.

    While The Washington Post and British newspaper The Guardian reported that some political observers pointed out the one-finger salute resembled another salute that the Nazis used, NBC News reporter Ben Collins and The New York Times reported that the salute was probably in reference to the QAnon song.

  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    edited September 2022





    Just a handful of crazies, absolutely nothing to be concerned about, as long as I get to keep my cushy executive role and be business pals with my beloved moderate republicans who support this with their votes.


    edit, for those who don’t know, the one held up by current republicans, is a direct use of the THREAT of violence 
    Pearl Jam fans light up the sky as band covers Imagine during S America  tour opener - Consequence
    I'm kidding but cmon, a Hitler salute and finger pointing are the same?  If they were throwing up that OK symbol I'd agree.
    Know less about fascism. 
    You know what's interesting. If they actually get facism, how many will realize they screwed up wanting that?  No way it's 35% of the population?

    It doesn’t need to be violent, despite the fact that senior senate leaders seem to be alright with the violence among their base. 

    Denying access to voting, and fair counting and certification, is all part of the fascist American uprising being  dismissed by moderates.



    edit, regarding the salute

    Former President Donald Trump appeared at a rally on Saturday in Youngstown, Ohio, which featured music similar to the anthem of QAnon and supporters giving a one-finger salute.

    USA Today, The New York Times and Business Insider reported that Trump was at the rally to support Ohio Senate candidate J.D. Vance. As Trump spoke, people reportedly raised an arm with their index finger pointed as they cheered.

    The background music, The New York Times reported, sounded similar to a QAnon song called "Wwg1wga," which stands for “where we go one, we go all.”

    The salute, however, was a different story.

    While The Washington Post and British newspaper The Guardian reported that some political observers pointed out the one-finger salute resembled another salute that the Nazis used, NBC News reporter Ben Collins and The New York Times reported that the salute was probably in reference to the QAnon song.




    Yes I read that.  Calling the finger pointing a Nazi salute is just dumb though.  I see that as people whom don't care for them or their politics and it's headline grabbing and not very good journalism.

    I have never read that finger pointing resembled a Nazi salute until today.

    Who said finger pointing is a nazi salute? 

    I compared one fascist crowd to another and suggested they're the same. Sorry if the nuance was lost on you. 
    If you read what I just quoted then you would have got the reference, sorry that was lost on you. Nuance is a stretch. I still think it's lazy reporting.

    The salute, however, was a different story.

    While The Washington Post and British newspaper The Guardian reported that some political observers pointed out the one-finger salute resembled another salute that the Nazis used, NBC News reporter Ben Collins and The New York Times reported that the salute was probably in reference to the QAnon song.

    I thought you were referring to my post of the pictures. 

    Sorry. 





  • Just a handful of crazies, absolutely nothing to be concerned about, as long as I get to keep my cushy executive role and be business pals with my beloved moderate republicans who support this with their votes.


    edit, for those who don’t know, the one held up by current republicans, is a direct use of the THREAT of violence 
    Pearl Jam fans light up the sky as band covers Imagine during S America  tour opener - Consequence
    I'm kidding but cmon, a Hitler salute and finger pointing are the same?  If they were throwing up that OK symbol I'd agree.
    Know less about fascism. 
    You know what's interesting. If they actually get facism, how many will realize they screwed up wanting that?  No way it's 35% of the population?

    It doesn’t need to be violent, despite the fact that senior senate leaders seem to be alright with the violence among their base. 

    Denying access to voting, and fair counting and certification, is all part of the fascist American uprising being  dismissed by moderates.



    edit, regarding the salute

    Former President Donald Trump appeared at a rally on Saturday in Youngstown, Ohio, which featured music similar to the anthem of QAnon and supporters giving a one-finger salute.

    USA Today, The New York Times and Business Insider reported that Trump was at the rally to support Ohio Senate candidate J.D. Vance. As Trump spoke, people reportedly raised an arm with their index finger pointed as they cheered.

    The background music, The New York Times reported, sounded similar to a QAnon song called "Wwg1wga," which stands for “where we go one, we go all.”

    The salute, however, was a different story.

    While The Washington Post and British newspaper The Guardian reported that some political observers pointed out the one-finger salute resembled another salute that the Nazis used, NBC News reporter Ben Collins and The New York Times reported that the salute was probably in reference to the QAnon song.




    Yes I read that.  Calling the finger pointing a Nazi salute is just dumb though.  I see that as people whom don't care for them or their politics and it's headline grabbing and not very good journalism.

    I have never read that finger pointing resembled a Nazi salute until today.

    Who said finger pointing is a nazi salute? 

    I compared one fascist crowd to another and suggested they're the same. Sorry if the nuance was lost on you. 
    If you read what I just quoted then you would have got the reference, sorry that was lost on you. Nuance is a stretch. I still think it's lazy reporting.

    The salute, however, was a different story.

    While The Washington Post and British newspaper The Guardian reported that some political observers pointed out the one-finger salute resembled another salute that the Nazis used, NBC News reporter Ben Collins and The New York Times reported that the salute was probably in reference to the QAnon song.

    I thought you were referring to my post of the pictures. 

    Sorry. 
    NP, I see where you are coming from though.  

    Is anybody monitoring Q sites anymore?  I'm wondering what kind of batshit crazy ideas they are coming up w next?  And kudos to Trump for that dog whistle and the Q soundalike song.  You really know how to get your base rallying.

    Friggin crazy...
  • It’s not about the finger in the air and Q. It’s about the rhetoric flowing from POOTWH’s mouth and the 35% of the repub party, his base, agreeing with it and just enough indies to go along with it. All of these deplorables don’t travel to his rallies but they agree with the rhetoric and more than likely would jump in if someone else starts the shit. Dismissing this or excusing it or not recognizing it for what it is, is dangerous, irresponsible and perhaps, complicitness. Ignore it at your peril.
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  • It’s not about the finger in the air and Q. It’s about the rhetoric flowing from POOTWH’s mouth and the 35% of the repub party, his base, agreeing with it and just enough indies to go along with it. All of these deplorables don’t travel to his rallies but they agree with the rhetoric and more than likely would jump in if someone else starts the shit. Dismissing this or excusing it or not recognizing it for what it is, is dangerous, irresponsible and perhaps, complicitness. Ignore it at your peril.
    I agree with this but not one reporter honed in on it hence my "lazy reporting" comment.  if you want to call it a nazi salute then back it up.  Just saying it doesn't do anything for me and I'll call that out.

    I am not down for another 4 years of Trump but if I see lazy comments and reporting I'll call it out.
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