*** Pearl Jam New York, NY Fanviews 9/11/22 ***

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  • JH6056
    JH6056 Posts: 2,437
    nicknyr15 said:
    Karts said:
    My 7th Garden show. Good times but the weakest. Too many hits, seen it all before. Not enough of Gigaton; long gone are the days of challenging the crowd. 

    The band is also not as tight as they were a decade ago. I just felt Stone and/or Matt not as into it, and there were plenty of mistakes and miscues. The amazing crowd were ahead of them and helping out. 

    Has Stone been masked all tour? Haven't been following. Not sure I saw him on a microphone as a result. 

    Where I was (223), Mike seemed low in the mix the first hour, but it may have just been everything a half step down. Sludgy stuff. 

    Finally, following up the first responders speech with RVM was just a dumb choice. It used to be talking to the crowd would set the tone for the music. I guess as a primarily greatest hits band now this is to be expected. 

    This show BLEW AWAY 2008 and was better than night 2 2016. Nothing will ever match or beat 98 and 2010 
    I'm curious, I only got to one of the shows between '98 and '10 - does one of those MSG shows even outshine the other, even if they're unquestionably the top 2 for you?
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    NK10452 said:
    Feel like most of you have said what I would have said.  The start was straight fire -- love it when they open with Release, I thought Garden sounded great, I always love Present Tense live, and Porch right off the jump was crazy.  Yes, I guess the shows are "shorter" now, but c'mon -- they're still playing 25 songs and going all out for 2+ hours.  Crowd energy was insane and you can tell the band feeds off it.  As always, it was a great time and looking forward to Philly in a couple of days.  I don't get Stone in the mask -- does he have Covid?  What gives?  Also, ditch Purple Rain -- silly.
    He’s been wearing the mask for the last three shows at least. Seems a reasonable precaution if that’s what he wants to do. 
    Agreed. Even if you're distanced you're still indoors and I think it's worth the precaution. I still mask up indoors and wish people would just let me be without asking me why. 
    I wore my KN95 throughout the entire show last night.  No one said anything but I got a few looks lol.  I was getting a little fatigued by the time the encore started.  
    Wearing a mask in an indoor setting with that many people in close proximity is a perfectly reasonable thing to do.  It's especially prudent if you're onstage with hundreds of people singing along at the top of their lungs and aspirating in your general direction for more than two hours, as in Stone's case.  We can never know for sure but, given the bubble the band was maintaining, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Matt and Jeff's COVID cases in the spring were picked up from the audience.  The prudence is not just about the risk of the illness to him, which would likely be mild; it's about the fact that a positive test would put the upcoming shows in jeopardy, and that would hurt everyone.

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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,256
    JH6056 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Karts said:
    My 7th Garden show. Good times but the weakest. Too many hits, seen it all before. Not enough of Gigaton; long gone are the days of challenging the crowd. 

    The band is also not as tight as they were a decade ago. I just felt Stone and/or Matt not as into it, and there were plenty of mistakes and miscues. The amazing crowd were ahead of them and helping out. 

    Has Stone been masked all tour? Haven't been following. Not sure I saw him on a microphone as a result. 

    Where I was (223), Mike seemed low in the mix the first hour, but it may have just been everything a half step down. Sludgy stuff. 

    Finally, following up the first responders speech with RVM was just a dumb choice. It used to be talking to the crowd would set the tone for the music. I guess as a primarily greatest hits band now this is to be expected. 

    This show BLEW AWAY 2008 and was better than night 2 2016. Nothing will ever match or beat 98 and 2010 
    I'm curious, I only got to one of the shows between '98 and '10 - does one of those MSG shows even outshine the other, even if they're unquestionably the top 2 for you?
    5/21/10 is tops for me. And msg 2016 night 1 is sorely underrated. 
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,007
    nicknyr15 said:
    JH6056 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Karts said:
    My 7th Garden show. Good times but the weakest. Too many hits, seen it all before. Not enough of Gigaton; long gone are the days of challenging the crowd. 

    The band is also not as tight as they were a decade ago. I just felt Stone and/or Matt not as into it, and there were plenty of mistakes and miscues. The amazing crowd were ahead of them and helping out. 

    Has Stone been masked all tour? Haven't been following. Not sure I saw him on a microphone as a result. 

    Where I was (223), Mike seemed low in the mix the first hour, but it may have just been everything a half step down. Sludgy stuff. 

    Finally, following up the first responders speech with RVM was just a dumb choice. It used to be talking to the crowd would set the tone for the music. I guess as a primarily greatest hits band now this is to be expected. 

    This show BLEW AWAY 2008 and was better than night 2 2016. Nothing will ever match or beat 98 and 2010 
    I'm curious, I only got to one of the shows between '98 and '10 - does one of those MSG shows even outshine the other, even if they're unquestionably the top 2 for you?
    5/21/10 is tops for me. And msg 2016 night 1 is sorely underrated. 
    5/21/10 is first place out of 30 shows for me 
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    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,256
    nicknyr15 said:
    JH6056 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Karts said:
    My 7th Garden show. Good times but the weakest. Too many hits, seen it all before. Not enough of Gigaton; long gone are the days of challenging the crowd. 

    The band is also not as tight as they were a decade ago. I just felt Stone and/or Matt not as into it, and there were plenty of mistakes and miscues. The amazing crowd were ahead of them and helping out. 

    Has Stone been masked all tour? Haven't been following. Not sure I saw him on a microphone as a result. 

    Where I was (223), Mike seemed low in the mix the first hour, but it may have just been everything a half step down. Sludgy stuff. 

    Finally, following up the first responders speech with RVM was just a dumb choice. It used to be talking to the crowd would set the tone for the music. I guess as a primarily greatest hits band now this is to be expected. 

    This show BLEW AWAY 2008 and was better than night 2 2016. Nothing will ever match or beat 98 and 2010 
    I'm curious, I only got to one of the shows between '98 and '10 - does one of those MSG shows even outshine the other, even if they're unquestionably the top 2 for you?
    5/21/10 is tops for me. And msg 2016 night 1 is sorely underrated. 
    5/21/10 is first place out of 30 shows for me 
    Ruined concerts for me for a little bit 
  • nicknyr15 said:
    JH6056 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Karts said:
    My 7th Garden show. Good times but the weakest. Too many hits, seen it all before. Not enough of Gigaton; long gone are the days of challenging the crowd. 

    The band is also not as tight as they were a decade ago. I just felt Stone and/or Matt not as into it, and there were plenty of mistakes and miscues. The amazing crowd were ahead of them and helping out. 

    Has Stone been masked all tour? Haven't been following. Not sure I saw him on a microphone as a result. 

    Where I was (223), Mike seemed low in the mix the first hour, but it may have just been everything a half step down. Sludgy stuff. 

    Finally, following up the first responders speech with RVM was just a dumb choice. It used to be talking to the crowd would set the tone for the music. I guess as a primarily greatest hits band now this is to be expected. 

    This show BLEW AWAY 2008 and was better than night 2 2016. Nothing will ever match or beat 98 and 2010 
    I'm curious, I only got to one of the shows between '98 and '10 - does one of those MSG shows even outshine the other, even if they're unquestionably the top 2 for you?
    5/21/10 is tops for me. And msg 2016 night 1 is sorely underrated. 
    5/21/10 is first place out of 30 shows for me 
    Curious how you rate some of the Philly highlights (which I’m assuming you drive down to) like the Ten show, Halloween closing down the spectrum, and spectrum #3 right before it.  Those are all contenders but yeah 5/21/10 is right near the top of the list for me too
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  • ceska
    ceska New York Posts: 1,137
    AlaG said:
    BF25394 said:
    Regarding the empty seats that some were surprised to see, it probably had something to do with the absurd prices being asked on the secondary market, which resulted in some tickets going un-resold.  Even after the show had already started, the cheapest ticket on StubHub was over $400 and there were seats still up for over $1,000.
    You think they’d lower the ask instead of not make a sale. Weird.

    They gotta train the ticket buyers to pay high prices. If people catch on to pre-show sale drops, then many people will expect to wait til show time to buy a cheap ticket. The brokers and re-sellers can afford to eat the loss of unsold tickets as they make way more money on the tickets they do sell, than they lose on the tickets they don't sell.
  • steven87
    steven87 Posts: 1,726
    merlin401 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    JH6056 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Karts said:
    My 7th Garden show. Good times but the weakest. Too many hits, seen it all before. Not enough of Gigaton; long gone are the days of challenging the crowd. 

    The band is also not as tight as they were a decade ago. I just felt Stone and/or Matt not as into it, and there were plenty of mistakes and miscues. The amazing crowd were ahead of them and helping out. 

    Has Stone been masked all tour? Haven't been following. Not sure I saw him on a microphone as a result. 

    Where I was (223), Mike seemed low in the mix the first hour, but it may have just been everything a half step down. Sludgy stuff. 

    Finally, following up the first responders speech with RVM was just a dumb choice. It used to be talking to the crowd would set the tone for the music. I guess as a primarily greatest hits band now this is to be expected. 

    This show BLEW AWAY 2008 and was better than night 2 2016. Nothing will ever match or beat 98 and 2010 
    I'm curious, I only got to one of the shows between '98 and '10 - does one of those MSG shows even outshine the other, even if they're unquestionably the top 2 for you?
    5/21/10 is tops for me. And msg 2016 night 1 is sorely underrated. 
    5/21/10 is first place out of 30 shows for me 
    Curious how you rate some of the Philly highlights (which I’m assuming you drive down to) like the Ten show, Halloween closing down the spectrum, and spectrum #3 right before it.  Those are all contenders but yeah 5/21/10 is right near the top of the list for me too
    Philly 3 ‘09 is my all-time favorite I’ve been to. Slightly edges out MSG 2 ‘10 for me, but both were simply incredible. 
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  • PeterED
    PeterED Posts: 375
    BF25394 said:
    NK10452 said:
    Feel like most of you have said what I would have said.  The start was straight fire -- love it when they open with Release, I thought Garden sounded great, I always love Present Tense live, and Porch right off the jump was crazy.  Yes, I guess the shows are "shorter" now, but c'mon -- they're still playing 25 songs and going all out for 2+ hours.  Crowd energy was insane and you can tell the band feeds off it.  As always, it was a great time and looking forward to Philly in a couple of days.  I don't get Stone in the mask -- does he have Covid?  What gives?  Also, ditch Purple Rain -- silly.
    He’s been wearing the mask for the last three shows at least. Seems a reasonable precaution if that’s what he wants to do. 
    Agreed. Even if you're distanced you're still indoors and I think it's worth the precaution. I still mask up indoors and wish people would just let me be without asking me why. 
    I wore my KN95 throughout the entire show last night.  No one said anything but I got a few looks lol.  I was getting a little fatigued by the time the encore started.  
    Wearing a mask in an indoor setting with that many people in close proximity is a perfectly reasonable thing to do.  It's especially prudent if you're onstage with hundreds of people singing along at the top of their lungs and aspirating in your general direction for more than two hours, as in Stone's case.  We can never know for sure but, given the bubble the band was maintaining, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Matt and Jeff's COVID cases in the spring were picked up from the audience.  The prudence is not just about the risk of the illness to him, which would likely be mild; it's about the fact that a positive test would put the upcoming shows in jeopardy, and that would hurt everyone.

    He wasn’t wearing one in Ottawa.
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  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    merlin401 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    JH6056 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Karts said:
    My 7th Garden show. Good times but the weakest. Too many hits, seen it all before. Not enough of Gigaton; long gone are the days of challenging the crowd. 

    The band is also not as tight as they were a decade ago. I just felt Stone and/or Matt not as into it, and there were plenty of mistakes and miscues. The amazing crowd were ahead of them and helping out. 

    Has Stone been masked all tour? Haven't been following. Not sure I saw him on a microphone as a result. 

    Where I was (223), Mike seemed low in the mix the first hour, but it may have just been everything a half step down. Sludgy stuff. 

    Finally, following up the first responders speech with RVM was just a dumb choice. It used to be talking to the crowd would set the tone for the music. I guess as a primarily greatest hits band now this is to be expected. 

    This show BLEW AWAY 2008 and was better than night 2 2016. Nothing will ever match or beat 98 and 2010 
    I'm curious, I only got to one of the shows between '98 and '10 - does one of those MSG shows even outshine the other, even if they're unquestionably the top 2 for you?
    5/21/10 is tops for me. And msg 2016 night 1 is sorely underrated. 
    5/21/10 is first place out of 30 shows for me 
    Curious how you rate some of the Philly highlights (which I’m assuming you drive down to) like the Ten show, Halloween closing down the spectrum, and spectrum #3 right before it.  Those are all contenders but yeah 5/21/10 is right near the top of the list for me too
    Spectrum night 3 was an amazing set list and amazing show. Best PJ show I’ve seen was Seattle night 2, 2018; that show left me completely wiped out the next day.
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  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,158
    nicknyr15 said:
    JH6056 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Karts said:
    My 7th Garden show. Good times but the weakest. Too many hits, seen it all before. Not enough of Gigaton; long gone are the days of challenging the crowd. 

    The band is also not as tight as they were a decade ago. I just felt Stone and/or Matt not as into it, and there were plenty of mistakes and miscues. The amazing crowd were ahead of them and helping out. 

    Has Stone been masked all tour? Haven't been following. Not sure I saw him on a microphone as a result. 

    Where I was (223), Mike seemed low in the mix the first hour, but it may have just been everything a half step down. Sludgy stuff. 

    Finally, following up the first responders speech with RVM was just a dumb choice. It used to be talking to the crowd would set the tone for the music. I guess as a primarily greatest hits band now this is to be expected. 

    This show BLEW AWAY 2008 and was better than night 2 2016. Nothing will ever match or beat 98 and 2010 
    I'm curious, I only got to one of the shows between '98 and '10 - does one of those MSG shows even outshine the other, even if they're unquestionably the top 2 for you?
    5/21/10 is tops for me. And msg 2016 night 1 is sorely underrated. 
    I love night 1 in 08, that show was awesome. 2016 Night 1 had some amazing variety but a lot of covers…
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  • SJD3232
    SJD3232 Posts: 2,203
    Last night was incredible, but I still have my money on 5-21-2010.

    amazing show and best MSG crowd I’ve ever experienced.
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,256
    Some great videos from last night on YouTube. Reliving some of the best moments right now. What a night. 
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,007
    merlin401 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    JH6056 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Karts said:
    My 7th Garden show. Good times but the weakest. Too many hits, seen it all before. Not enough of Gigaton; long gone are the days of challenging the crowd. 

    The band is also not as tight as they were a decade ago. I just felt Stone and/or Matt not as into it, and there were plenty of mistakes and miscues. The amazing crowd were ahead of them and helping out. 

    Has Stone been masked all tour? Haven't been following. Not sure I saw him on a microphone as a result. 

    Where I was (223), Mike seemed low in the mix the first hour, but it may have just been everything a half step down. Sludgy stuff. 

    Finally, following up the first responders speech with RVM was just a dumb choice. It used to be talking to the crowd would set the tone for the music. I guess as a primarily greatest hits band now this is to be expected. 

    This show BLEW AWAY 2008 and was better than night 2 2016. Nothing will ever match or beat 98 and 2010 
    I'm curious, I only got to one of the shows between '98 and '10 - does one of those MSG shows even outshine the other, even if they're unquestionably the top 2 for you?
    5/21/10 is tops for me. And msg 2016 night 1 is sorely underrated. 
    5/21/10 is first place out of 30 shows for me 
    Curious how you rate some of the Philly highlights (which I’m assuming you drive down to) like the Ten show, Halloween closing down the spectrum, and spectrum #3 right before it.  Those are all contenders but yeah 5/21/10 is right near the top of the list for me too
    Spectrum 3 second place 
    ten show close to the top
    spectrum 4 probably 10-12

    all amazing!
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    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,256
    merlin401 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    JH6056 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Karts said:
    My 7th Garden show. Good times but the weakest. Too many hits, seen it all before. Not enough of Gigaton; long gone are the days of challenging the crowd. 

    The band is also not as tight as they were a decade ago. I just felt Stone and/or Matt not as into it, and there were plenty of mistakes and miscues. The amazing crowd were ahead of them and helping out. 

    Has Stone been masked all tour? Haven't been following. Not sure I saw him on a microphone as a result. 

    Where I was (223), Mike seemed low in the mix the first hour, but it may have just been everything a half step down. Sludgy stuff. 

    Finally, following up the first responders speech with RVM was just a dumb choice. It used to be talking to the crowd would set the tone for the music. I guess as a primarily greatest hits band now this is to be expected. 

    This show BLEW AWAY 2008 and was better than night 2 2016. Nothing will ever match or beat 98 and 2010 
    I'm curious, I only got to one of the shows between '98 and '10 - does one of those MSG shows even outshine the other, even if they're unquestionably the top 2 for you?
    5/21/10 is tops for me. And msg 2016 night 1 is sorely underrated. 
    5/21/10 is first place out of 30 shows for me 
    Curious how you rate some of the Philly highlights (which I’m assuming you drive down to) like the Ten show, Halloween closing down the spectrum, and spectrum #3 right before it.  Those are all contenders but yeah 5/21/10 is right near the top of the list for me too
    Spectrum 3 second place 
    ten show close to the top
    spectrum 4 probably 10-12

    all amazing!
    Yea that Philly 10 show was almost too good. I’ll never forget the opening notes  of Alive that night. 
  • Anyone know what the pink dots mean beside the first few songs on the set list published on Instagram? E.g. dots are next to Release, Garden, Dissident, whoever said and even flow
  • AlaG
    AlaG Brookline, MA Posts: 979
    mclynick said:
    Anyone know what the pink dots mean beside the first few songs on the set list published on Instagram? E.g. dots are next to Release, Garden, Dissident, whoever said and even flow
    Those dots are red, my friend.

    It means they’re playing them tuned a half-step down.
  • AlaG said:
    mclynick said:
    Anyone know what the pink dots mean beside the first few songs on the set list published on Instagram? E.g. dots are next to Release, Garden, Dissident, whoever said and even flow
    Those dots are red, my friend.

    It means they’re playing them tuned a half-step down.
    Lol, indeed.  Thanks 
  • Show was amazing. Lovely setlist. Release was everything. I haven't been to NY on 9/11 for 21 years. It was worth the anxiety.