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  • tbergs
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    Not directed at you, but every time this acronym gets used, I think it's childish. If conservatives did this after Obama, it would be viewed as petty and stupid. Just say the fucking idiot's name. What's more empowering, going out of the way to make up another term or just using the name? Seems to draw more attention. Just my opinion.
    If Obama were impeached twice and set in motion the events of 1/6, as well as bragged about grabbing women by the pussy, colluded with putin on the ritz and called "both sides" good people, I'd say it would be justified. POOTWH doesn't deserve the respect of my typing or saying his name. Although I suppose I could lengthen it to, "PPOSITWH," if that would make you feel better?

    Don't worry, I'll do me. Honesty and all.
    You don't need to justify Obama v. Trump comparisons to me, but which statement is more disparaging, Trump is a piece of shit or POOTWH is a piece of shit? The reasoning for either of us to come to that conclusion is obvious, but that doesn't mean there aren't conservatives who think Obama was shit. My point is simply, no matter the merits, it's dumb for either side to assign childish nicknames/acronyms. Just curious, is that how you refer to him when you talk to people in person?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    tbergs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
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    Not directed at you, but every time this acronym gets used, I think it's childish. If conservatives did this after Obama, it would be viewed as petty and stupid. Just say the fucking idiot's name. What's more empowering, going out of the way to make up another term or just using the name? Seems to draw more attention. Just my opinion.
    i agree. it bugged me every time godfather called him "Obummer" or capitalized his middle name like it made him some terrorist, it was childish. it was then, and it is now. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    TJ25487 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    The Juggler said:
    I love how some of the Trump people are back and not even acknowledging the fact that he's now under a criminal investigation, choosing instead, to post about nonsense. lol
    gotta do something to try to own the libs with the last 2 weeks that the biden administration has had.
    I don't think the right is too worried about the last 2 weeks my friend. Unless your talking about something other than a weaponized FBI raid and a Build Back Broke spending bill that will do little to stop inflation. I think the right just needs to get out of the way and let this administration just keep doing what it does best. 
    what's the name of the planet you are typing from?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    tbergs said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    tbergs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Previous 
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    Not directed at you, but every time this acronym gets used, I think it's childish. If conservatives did this after Obama, it would be viewed as petty and stupid. Just say the fucking idiot's name. What's more empowering, going out of the way to make up another term or just using the name? Seems to draw more attention. Just my opinion.
    If Obama were impeached twice and set in motion the events of 1/6, as well as bragged about grabbing women by the pussy, colluded with putin on the ritz and called "both sides" good people, I'd say it would be justified. POOTWH doesn't deserve the respect of my typing or saying his name. Although I suppose I could lengthen it to, "PPOSITWH," if that would make you feel better?

    Don't worry, I'll do me. Honesty and all.
    You don't need to justify Obama v. Trump comparisons to me, but which statement is more disparaging, Trump is a piece of shit or POOTWH is a piece of shit? The reasoning for either of us to come to that conclusion is obvious, but that doesn't mean there aren't conservatives who think Obama was shit. My point is simply, no matter the merits, it's dumb for either side to assign childish nicknames/acronyms. Just curious, is that how you refer to him when you talk to people in person?
    The difference is deserved versus undeserved and while you and I may be able to discern the difference, many are not, including several posters on this very forum. I do my damnedest to not utter POOTWH’s name ever and will say the acronym out loud word for word or use your preferred reference of POS if who I’m speaking with doesn’t compute. That is, if I’m out of my mom’s basement actually speaking with someone. There’s a virusssss out there you know.
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  • Gern Blansten
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    TJ25487 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    The Juggler said:
    I love how some of the Trump people are back and not even acknowledging the fact that he's now under a criminal investigation, choosing instead, to post about nonsense. lol
    gotta do something to try to own the libs with the last 2 weeks that the biden administration has had.
    I don't think the right is too worried about the last 2 weeks my friend. Unless your talking about something other than a weaponized FBI raid and a Build Back Broke spending bill that will do little to stop inflation. I think the right just needs to get out of the way and let this administration just keep doing what it does best. 
    what's the name of the planet you are typing from?
    I'm surprised they chastise the BBB program given the spending that occurred under tRump. PPP anyone?
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  • FiveBelow
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    The Juggler said:
    I love how some of the Trump people are back and not even acknowledging the fact that he's now under a criminal investigation, choosing instead, to post about nonsense. lol
    Serious question. How many "trump people" are even active on these boards? I can think of 3-4 who pop in from time to time, and it seems as if they do so just for a reaction from the same people who choose to engage with them. I think it is ridiculous to assume "white power" every time a fist in the air is presented. Confusing that with being a trump person is nonsense, much like choosing to ignore the similarity in petty tactics being used by both parties supporters.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    The man who perfected the art of manipulating and using media to his ends and makes an appearance every time with calculated fore thought is not randomly throwing up an upraised fist. These are not one offs or random occurrences. They are calculated and purposeful to send a message to his supporters, of which some of us know what contingent are represented. To compare them to Brandon or Obama’s or Rage Against the Machine’s one offs and with zero context is laughable. The excuse making and dismissals are disgusting.


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    FiveBelow said:
    The Juggler said:
    I love how some of the Trump people are back and not even acknowledging the fact that he's now under a criminal investigation, choosing instead, to post about nonsense. lol
    Serious question. How many "trump people" are even active on these boards? I can think of 3-4 who pop in from time to time, and it seems as if they do so just for a reaction from the same people who choose to engage with them. I think it is ridiculous to assume "white power" every time a fist in the air is presented. Confusing that with being a trump person is nonsense, much like choosing to ignore the similarity in petty tactics being used by both parties supporters.
    Mods cleaned house right after the election in 2016. The magas in here were being really obnoxious and openly hostile to people. The election was quite validating for them, if you can imagine. 
  • mickeyrat
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    Trump Org. CFO expected to plead guilty in NY tax case
    By MICHAEL R. SISAK
    15 Aug 2022

    NEW YORK (AP) — Donald Trump’s longtime finance chief is expected to plead guilty as soon as Thursday in a tax evasion case that is the only criminal prosecution to arise from a long-running investigation into the former president’s company, three people familiar with the matter told The Associated Press.

    Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg was scheduled to be tried in October on allegations he took more than $1.7 million in off-the-books compensation from the company, including rent, car payments and school tuition.

    Prosecutors in the Manhattan district attorney's office and Weisselberg's lawyers met Monday with the judge overseeing the case, Juan Manuel Merchan, according to court records. The judge then scheduled a hearing in the matter for 9 a.m. Thursday but did not specify the reason.

    The people who spoke to the AP did so on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the case. They said the purpose of Thursday’s hearing was for Weisselberg to enter a guilty plea, but cautioned that plea deals sometimes fall apart before they are finalized in court.

    Weisselberg’s lawyer, Nicholas Gravante Jr., told The New York Times on Monday that Weisselberg has been engaged in plea negotiations to resolve the case, but did not specify terms of a potential plea deal. Reached by the AP, Gravante declined to comment.

    The Times, citing two people with knowledge of the matter, said Weisselberg was expected to receive a five-month jail sentence, which would make him eligible for release after about 100 days. The deal would not require Weisselberg to testify or cooperate in any way with an ongoing criminal investigation into Trump's business practices.

    Trump’s company, the Trump Organization, is also charged in the case but did not appear to be involved in the plea agreement talks. Weisselberg and the Trump Organization have pleaded not guilty.

    The Manhattan district attorney’s office declined comment. A message seeking comment was left with a lawyer for the Trump Organization.

    News of Weisselberg’s plea negotiations came days after the judge denied requests by his lawyers and the Trump Organization to throw out the case. The judge did drop one criminal tax fraud count against the company citing the statute of limitations, but more than a dozen other counts remain.

    In seeking dismissal of the case, Weisselberg’s lawyers argued prosecutors in the Democrat-led district attorney’s office were punishing him because he wouldn’t offer up damaging information against the former president.

    The judge rejected that argument, saying that evidence presented to the grand jury was legally sufficient to support the charges.

    Weisselberg, who turned 75 on Monday, is the only Trump executive charged in the yearslong criminal investigation started by former Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr., who went to the Supreme Court to secure Trump’s tax records. Vance’s successor, Alvin Bragg, is now overseeing the investigation. Several other Trump executives have been granted immunity to testify before a grand jury in the case.

    Prosecutors alleged that Weisselberg and the Trump Organization schemed to give off-the-books compensation to senior executives, including Weisselberg, for 15 years. Weisselberg alone was accused of defrauding the federal government, state and city out of more than $900,000 in unpaid taxes and undeserved tax refunds.

    The most serious charge against Weisselberg, grand larceny, carried a potential penalty of five to 15 years in prison. The tax fraud charges against the company are punishable by a fine of double the amount of unpaid taxes, or $250,000, whichever is larger.

    Trump has not been charged in the criminal probe, but prosecutors have noted that he signed some of the checks at the center of the case. Trump, who has decried the New York investigations as a “political witch hunt,” has said his company’s actions were standard practice in the real estate business and in no way a crime.

    Last week, Trump sat for a deposition in New York Attorney General Letitia James’ parallel civil investigation into allegations Trump’s company misled lenders and tax authorities about asset values. Trump invoked his Fifth Amendment protection against self-incrimination more than 400 times.

    In the months after Weisselberg’s arrest, the criminal probe appeared to be progressing toward a possible criminal indictment of Trump himself, but the investigation slowed, a grand jury was disbanded and a top prosecutor left after Bragg took office in January — although he insists it is continuing.

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  • The Juggler
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    FiveBelow said:
    The Juggler said:
    I love how some of the Trump people are back and not even acknowledging the fact that he's now under a criminal investigation, choosing instead, to post about nonsense. lol
    Serious question. How many "trump people" are even active on these boards? I can think of 3-4 who pop in from time to time, and it seems as if they do so just for a reaction from the same people who choose to engage with them. I think it is ridiculous to assume "white power" every time a fist in the air is presented. Confusing that with being a trump person is nonsense, much like choosing to ignore the similarity in petty tactics being used by both parties supporters.
    Hi. Would you like to discuss the criminal investigation surrounding Donald Trump? The 3-4 people you mention do only pop in to get a reaction and argue about stuff like that. Would you like to talk about stuff with substance? I miss the days when we had republicans who did that....
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  • brianlux
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    FiveBelow said:
    The Juggler said:
    I love how some of the Trump people are back and not even acknowledging the fact that he's now under a criminal investigation, choosing instead, to post about nonsense. lol
    Serious question. How many "trump people" are even active on these boards? I can think of 3-4 who pop in from time to time, and it seems as if they do so just for a reaction from the same people who choose to engage with them. I think it is ridiculous to assume "white power" every time a fist in the air is presented. Confusing that with being a trump person is nonsense, much like choosing to ignore the similarity in petty tactics being used by both parties supporters.
    The bolded section is spot on.  What better way to draw attention than to go on a fan site knowing your views are contradictory to most others and then pushing for a response.  It would be like me, a huge Replacements fan, getting on a Replacements fan site and saying things like, "The Replacements Stink."
    Oh, but wait, they do stink.

    Never mind (all over but the shouting.)

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  • mrussel1
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    brianlux said:
    FiveBelow said:
    The Juggler said:
    I love how some of the Trump people are back and not even acknowledging the fact that he's now under a criminal investigation, choosing instead, to post about nonsense. lol
    Serious question. How many "trump people" are even active on these boards? I can think of 3-4 who pop in from time to time, and it seems as if they do so just for a reaction from the same people who choose to engage with them. I think it is ridiculous to assume "white power" every time a fist in the air is presented. Confusing that with being a trump person is nonsense, much like choosing to ignore the similarity in petty tactics being used by both parties supporters.
    The bolded section is spot on.  What better way to draw attention than to go on a fan site knowing your views are contradictory to most others and then pushing for a response.  It would be like me, a huge Replacements fan, getting on a Replacements fan site and saying things like, "The Replacements Stink."
    Oh, but wait, they do stink.

    Never mind (all over but the shouting.)

    I have no issue playing devils advocate or pressing on issues, even if I don't even fully agree with my own writings.  It keeps the place from being an echo chamber.  

    But I cannot defend Trump or this iteration of the GOP.
  • gimmesometruth27
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    TJ25487 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    The Juggler said:
    I love how some of the Trump people are back and not even acknowledging the fact that he's now under a criminal investigation, choosing instead, to post about nonsense. lol
    gotta do something to try to own the libs with the last 2 weeks that the biden administration has had.
    I don't think the right is too worried about the last 2 weeks my friend. Unless your talking about something other than a weaponized FBI raid and a Build Back Broke spending bill that will do little to stop inflation. I think the right just needs to get out of the way and let this administration just keep doing what it does best. 
    if you would read about what you are criticizing you would see that most economists agree that the bill will actually lower inflation very quickly. this was why manchin was the hold out because he did not believe it. when it was shown to him and it was proven to him he signed on and got the bill passed. if manchin can read and listen to experts, you can too,

    i don't know why i am even responding to you in the first place. no matter what biden accomplishes you will never vote for him. but the gop will never win another national election ever again with their positions on the issues. there are not enough of you all out there.
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  • tbergs
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    gimmesometruth27 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    The Juggler said:
    I love how some of the Trump people are back and not even acknowledging the fact that he's now under a criminal investigation, choosing instead, to post about nonsense. lol
    gotta do something to try to own the libs with the last 2 weeks that the biden administration has had.
    I don't think the right is too worried about the last 2 weeks my friend. Unless your talking about something other than a weaponized FBI raid and a Build Back Broke spending bill that will do little to stop inflation. I think the right just needs to get out of the way and let this administration just keep doing what it does best. 
    if you would read about what you are criticizing you would see that most economists agree that the bill will actually lower inflation very quickly. this was why manchin was the hold out because he did not believe it. when it was shown to him and it was proven to him he signed on and got the bill passed. if manchin can read and listen to experts, you can too,

    i don't know why i am even responding to you in the first place. no matter what biden accomplishes you will never vote for him. but the gop will never win another national election ever again with their positions on the issues. there are not enough of you all out there.
    They already know this and have still been able to seat 2 of the last 4 presidents by manipulating a handful of swing states. What they are starting to realize is that even that won't continue to work so now they're trying to elect corrupt officials who will scream fraud if a democrat wins, but all GOP wins will always be legit. It's ridiculous.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Funny, 78 year old, drunken, desperate, lower his fly, how many divorces, former Mayor of Murica, pretend Yankees fan, is the future?

    Cling to the stoopit.

    And a Cheney is our savior? Please.
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    Wow!! That was hit you in the face with the truth of what’s happening right there @mickeyrat
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    Ari Melber rules.
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    tbergs said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    tbergs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
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    Not directed at you, but every time this acronym gets used, I think it's childish. If conservatives did this after Obama, it would be viewed as petty and stupid. Just say the fucking idiot's name. What's more empowering, going out of the way to make up another term or just using the name? Seems to draw more attention. Just my opinion.
    If Obama were impeached twice and set in motion the events of 1/6, as well as bragged about grabbing women by the pussy, colluded with putin on the ritz and called "both sides" good people, I'd say it would be justified. POOTWH doesn't deserve the respect of my typing or saying his name. Although I suppose I could lengthen it to, "PPOSITWH," if that would make you feel better?

    Don't worry, I'll do me. Honesty and all.
    You don't need to justify Obama v. Trump comparisons to me, but which statement is more disparaging, Trump is a piece of shit or POOTWH is a piece of shit? The reasoning for either of us to come to that conclusion is obvious, but that doesn't mean there aren't conservatives who think Obama was shit. My point is simply, no matter the merits, it's dumb for either side to assign childish nicknames/acronyms. Just curious, is that how you refer to him when you talk to people in person?
    “In Person”…. You think this guy ever leaves the house??  
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    Day fucking one


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