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So free even the laws of physics don’t apply.Merkin Baller said:Trump supporters: are you even free if you aren’t using one of these to silence your seat belt alarm?
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i am a bit behind today but someone at work said something that the fbi notified trump that they had his passports and that they were giving them back to him, then trump went on truth and posted that they confiscated their passports. after the fact. anybody hear that, or is my coworker full of it?"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trumps-passports-returned-mar-lago-search-doj-official-says-rcna43192gimmesometruth27 said:i am a bit behind today but someone at work said something that the fbi notified trump that they had his passports and that they were giving them back to him, then trump went on truth and posted that they confiscated their passports. after the fact. anybody hear that, or is my coworker full of it?
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gimmesometruth27 said:i am a bit behind today but someone at work said something that the fbi notified trump that they had his passports and that they were giving them back to him, then trump went on truth and posted that they confiscated their passports. after the fact. anybody hear that, or is my coworker full of it?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trumps-passports-returned-mar-lago-search-doj-official-says-rcna43192
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I don't know the order of events, but yes they were confiscated and returned. However, two were expired and one was diplomatic, according to what I read.gimmesometruth27 said:i am a bit behind today but someone at work said something that the fbi notified trump that they had his passports and that they were giving them back to him, then trump went on truth and posted that they confiscated their passports. after the fact. anybody hear that, or is my coworker full of it?0 -
and they were returned because they found that they weren't part of the scope of the warrant. this is standard procedure, according to the FBI.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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What a brain trust, pppppfffffffffttttttttt fart.
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At least a skull seems appropriate.Merkin Baller said:Trump supporters: are you even free if you aren’t using one of these to silence your seat belt alarm?hippiemom = goodness0 -
Halifax2TheMax said:What a brain trust, pppppfffffffffttttttttt fart.
dude behind fucker carlson is don jrs coke/meth dealer. dude looks absolutely zooted here...
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So free even the laws of physics don’t apply.Merkin Baller said:Trump supporters: are you even free if you aren’t using one of these to silence your seat belt alarm?
so my wife's mini cooper has such sensitivity in the passenger seat her purse sets off the belt alarm.
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While some seem to want to focus on the potential, or lack thereof, of bloodshed and an overthrow of the government as being the worst possible outcome, this is what is going on quietly and for the most part, below the radar.
The campaign
When Attorney General Merrick Garland addressed the FBI search of Mar-a-Lago last week, he took pains to emphasize that the Justice Department was “applying the law evenly, without fear or favor.”How some swing voters view the FBI search of Mar-a-Lago
Some swing voters aren’t buying it.
Ten White swing voters who voted for Donald Trump in 2016 but not in 2020 — or who voted for him in 2020 but regretted it — said Monday evening that they weren’t convinced that politics hadn’t played a role in the search of Trump’s Florida club to reclaim classified documents.
The voters spoke in two focus groups conducted Monday evening for a set of progressive groups that The Early was allowed to observe on the condition that we not identify the sponsors or the participants. One group included five women from across the country, the other five men.
Asked whether they thought the Justice Department was acting politically in investigating Trump, all five women raised their hands.
“It’s three months before midterms,” one of the women said.
Several of the men were also skeptical.
“I’m looking at this and I’m thinking, here’s another thing that’s politically motivated,” one man said.
Republican lawmakers and Trump himself have alleged without evidence since the search last week that Trump was targeted for political reasons. Garland on Thursday defended the FBI and the Justice Department against “recent unfounded attacks” and noted that “the search warrant was authorized by a federal court upon the required finding of probable cause.” (The department objected on Monday to releasing the affidavit used to secure the search warrant, as some Republicans have urged, saying it would harm its investigation.)
A challenge for Democrats
How to talk about Trump and the Justice Department’s search for classified information at his Florida resort is a pressing question for Democrats. Many Republicans have been quick to defend Trump or at least denounce DOJ.
“With Trump back in the legal spotlight, Democrats are recalculating how they could — or whether they should at all — capitalize on the moment by drawing contrasts with Republicans without appearing out of touch with what voters are concerned about,” our colleague Marianna Sotomayor reports. Top aides at the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee met Wednesday to discuss the matter.
- “The question before aides responsible with crafting messaging for House Democrats at the meeting last week was whether it was worth it for members to highlight stark contrasts between themselves and their Republican opponents by drawing more attention to the questions surrounding former president, according to two Democratic strategists who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the private meeting.”
- “The conclusion: Don’t make this election about Trump, but use his latest legal turmoil to draw a sharp contrast with Trumpism.”
- Many of the voters in the focus group appeared to be those whom Democrats are trying to reach. Many of them were critical of Trump — “I did vote for him in 2016. I’d never do that again,” one woman said — and most of the women said they were concerned about Republicans’ efforts to roll back abortion rights. But many of them expressed skepticism about the timing and motivations of the FBI raid.
- “Maybe there’s money involved,” another woman said. “I don’t believe that anyone’s not getting paid for the things that they’re doing — you know, leaking things to media. I think there’s just a lot of really shady stuff going on.”
Swing voters wonder: What about Clinton?
Some of the voters in the focus group also saw a double standard that Hillary Clinton wasn’t prosecuted for running a private email server while she was secretary of state (even though the FBI reopened its investigation of her shortly before the 2016 election.)
“If he’s guilty, he’s guilty,” one woman said. “OK? He’s guilty. If Clinton was guilty with having a server in her basement and if the laptop was breached, what the hell?” (The State Department submitted a report to Congress in 2019 that concluded there was no systemic or deliberate mishandling of classified information involving Clinton's private server.)
“Right,” another woman said. “Thank you.”
“And if Pelosi and her husband, there’s trading magically around legislation’s passed, what are we applying laws to?” the first woman said, referring to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband, Paul Pelosi, who is an active stock trader. (Speaker Pelosi has said her husband has “absolutely not” traded using information she’s given him.)
Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.) echoed the Clinton line in a virtual town hall with constituents on Monday evening, Marianna tells us.“We didn’t raid Hillary Clinton’s home in Chappaqua, New York,” he said. “We haven’t raided Hunter Biden’s home.”
Many of the voters expressed skepticism suspicion toward both parties. One woman said she wished she could vote for a presidential candidate rather than voting against the one she disliked more. Some voters also seemed a little inured by all the current investigations into Trump and the past scandals involving him, even if they were troubled by Trump's role in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.
“When I think about the Russia thing that they vilified him over, and it ended up being a big nothingburger — I just keep thinking of that,” one man said.
Still, he and other men said they wanted the Justice Department to proceed with the investigation now that it's underway.
“We've opened the can of worms,” the man said. “We've gotta go ahead and see what's in there.”
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cincybearcat said:
At least a skull seems appropriate.Merkin Baller said:Trump supporters: are you even free if you aren’t using one of these to silence your seat belt alarm?
Punisher skull, for punishing libs.0 -
Eric always has that Beavis look on his face. seriously.Halifax2TheMax said:What a brain trust, pppppfffffffffttttttttt fart.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
you mean Butthead...Gaetz is BeavisHughFreakingDillon said:
Eric always has that Beavis look on his face. seriously.Halifax2TheMax said:What a brain trust, pppppfffffffffttttttttt fart.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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sorry, yes, buttheadGern Blansten said:
you mean Butthead...Gaetz is BeavisHughFreakingDillon said:
Eric always has that Beavis look on his face. seriously.Halifax2TheMax said:What a brain trust, pppppfffffffffttttttttt fart.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:
sorry, yes, buttheadGern Blansten said:
you mean Butthead...Gaetz is BeavisHughFreakingDillon said:
Eric always has that Beavis look on his face. seriously.Halifax2TheMax said:What a brain trust, pppppfffffffffttttttttt fart.
an insult to both of those cartoon characters
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I had a Mini and would buckle up my groceries.mickeyrat said:Go Beavers said:
So free even the laws of physics don’t apply.Merkin Baller said:Trump supporters: are you even free if you aren’t using one of these to silence your seat belt alarm?
so my wife's mini cooper has such sensitivity in the passenger seat her purse sets off the belt alarm.0
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