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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,498
    Madonna can perhaps be mentioned as she kept reinventing herself and made pop music a power and was always ahead of it in a world where the light burns out rather quick, she made herself relevant for 30+ years.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    Zod said:
    I feel like Elvis and then the Beatles massively changed the direction of music.  I'm not sure how they don't always make the list.  I feel like after that there's alot more arguments to be had.
    Absolutely.
    Culturally there are no bigger influences in rock music history (frankly just music history) than these 2.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Guy Dudebro
    Guy Dudebro Posts: 1,480
    tempo_n_groove said:
    OffSheGoes35 said:
    I'm glad to see The Sex Pistols are getting some love. :how_interesting:
    I actually can't stand them but I understand their place in history.
    Bite your tongue. 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,498
    Guy Dudebro said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    OffSheGoes35 said:
    I'm glad to see The Sex Pistols are getting some love. :how_interesting:
    I actually can't stand them but I understand their place in history.
    Bite your tongue. 
    We've discussed this before, lol!
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    tempo_n_groove said:
    OffSheGoes35 said:
    I'm glad to see The Sex Pistols are getting some love. :how_interesting:
    I actually can't stand them but I understand their place in history.
    They were the original boy band, right?
    Malcolm McLaren was the precursor to Lou Pearlman.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,498
    Poncier said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    OffSheGoes35 said:
    I'm glad to see The Sex Pistols are getting some love. :how_interesting:
    I actually can't stand them but I understand their place in history.
    They were the original boy band, right?
    Malcolm McLaren was the precursor to Lou Pearlman.
    Ha!  That's funny!

    I was going to go with one of the 5 bands like MC5 or Jackson 5 actually.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Great question Brian.

    I think only a few have done things to "change" music and the landscape that can not be argued with.

    Muddy Waters- Everyone stole from him and vice versa?  There were other guitarists but everyone always sites him as an influence.

    Pete Seeger- He brought folk music to the masses and wrote songs you probably didn't realize he wrote like "Hammer song" and "Turn Turn Turn.

    Hank Williams sr- Americas first Rock Star.  His music was everywhere.  He sold out wherever he went and partied hard when he did.  Died at only 29.  Way before social media and television, Hank Williams became a national star.

    Elvis Presley- If you get banned from the waist down on TV you were doing something right, lol.  He hit the world like a hammer. He made women faint.  What he did was crazy.

    The Beetles- A band that changed the way in recording w layering and harmonies.  A band so big that they stopped touring and only made studio albums.

    Jimi Hendrix- He has a sound so unique that is all his.  The greatest and to me, most influential guitarist of all time.

    Black Sabbath- 4 guys from  Birmingham, England that sung dark lyrics and played power chords to the delight of many a fan and birth of metal.

    Sex Pistols- The Ramones were first but the Pistols made everyone aware of punk.

    Van Halen-  It was more for Eddie VanHalens playing style than the band itself.  EVH would dummy wires in his guitar so people couldn't mimic the sound.  The second most influential guitarist of all time.

    Grand Master Flash-  One of the fathers of the birth of hip-hop.  Run DMC may have been bigger but if not for him and the Furious Five there is no rap future. They even coined the term hip-hop.

    Nirvana- Janes addiction was gaining a lot of traction but Smells Like Teen Spirit was the song that overnight took over the radio and MTV and gone were the awful hair bands polluting the airwaves.

    Daft Punk- Bringing in DJing to another level.  The Chemical Brothers were packing stadiums but it was Daft Punk that had the image w their space helmets and auto tuned voices that captured the audiences.  EDC wouldn't be around if not for a band like Daft Punk.

    Linkin Park-  Brought EMO music to a whole other level.  They were so big Jay-Z wanted to do an album w them.  That's huge.  They wrote songs about pain and angst for the people who couldn't fight and told their stories that were their own.

    I wanted to mention Minor Threat for their staple on the Straight Edge movement and writing an X on your hand.  To this day Straight edge is still around and they are very much the reason for it in the first place. It's a smaller movement than any of the above but it definitely sparked other bands.
    Good list but you must have a lot of fingers on one of your hands!  :lol
    Yeah, I can see mentioning Minor Threat as Straight Edge pioneers.  Good one!
    OffSheGoes35 said:
    I'm glad to see The Sex Pistols are getting some love. :how_interesting:
    Bloody 'ell, yes! 
    Zod said:
    I feel like Elvis and then the Beatles massively changed the direction of music.  I'm not sure how they don't always make the list.  I feel like after that there's alot more arguments to be had.

    Yeah, I can see both possible sides to this one.  I'm so so sure Elvis really did much to change the music itself, but I think his stage presence give enough added value to his terrific (early, at least) singing voice to make for an almost sure candidate.

    Same with the Beatles.  The question is, how much did the four of them actually change music?  I think you have to almost state them as "The Beatles Organization" to make the list.  The changes that were made in the studio were a huge part of their influence.  If you include George Martin as "the Fifth Beatle", then you probably have a shoe in.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    tempo_n_groove said:
    You know who is missing on this list?  Alanis Morrissette.  She single handedly made women taken seriously in music.  Yes, before her were others but you really saw an explosion of talent after Jagged came out.

    I still think I'd have to list Carole King, Janis Joplin, or Patti Smith before Alanis.  Also, No offense to the fine singer, but I kind of doubt Alanis will be seen so much as a major innovator in the long run.  Maybe too soon to tell.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    Dinosaur Jr. - Loud Country.
    Rush - birth of Prog-metal
    The Damned - Birth of Goth Rock
    Husker Du - melodic hardcore
    Johnny Cash - the legend

  • GB281198
    GB281198 Virginia Posts: 632
    Sister Rosetta Tharpe doesn't get the recognition for her contribution to rock and roll that she deserves. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    Dinosaur Jr. - Loud Country.
    Rush - birth of Prog-metal
    The Damned - Birth of Goth Rock
    Husker Du - melodic hardcore
    Johnny Cash - the legend


    A vote for ear-bleeding country- AWESOME!  :smiley:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    GB281198 said:
    Sister Rosetta Tharpe doesn't get the recognition for her contribution to rock and roll that she deserves. 

    Truth!  A fine singer and a damn good guitar player!
    Why Sister Rosetta Tharpe Belongs in the Rock Hall of Fame - Rolling Stone

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    brianlux said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    Dinosaur Jr. - Loud Country.
    Rush - birth of Prog-metal
    The Damned - Birth of Goth Rock
    Husker Du - melodic hardcore
    Johnny Cash - the legend


    A vote for ear-bleeding country- AWESOME!  :smiley:
    There is a little country twang in all the grunge and 90s alt rock singers. D Jr. and the Meat Puppets are the influence. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,819
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    brianlux said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    Dinosaur Jr. - Loud Country.
    Rush - birth of Prog-metal
    The Damned - Birth of Goth Rock
    Husker Du - melodic hardcore
    Johnny Cash - the legend


    A vote for ear-bleeding country- AWESOME!  :smiley:
    There is a little country twang in all the grunge and 90s alt rock singers. D Jr. and the Meat Puppets are the influence. 
    I love the country overtones in the Meat Puppets’ music. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    brianlux said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    Dinosaur Jr. - Loud Country.
    Rush - birth of Prog-metal
    The Damned - Birth of Goth Rock
    Husker Du - melodic hardcore
    Johnny Cash - the legend


    A vote for ear-bleeding country- AWESOME!  :smiley:
    There is a little country twang in all the grunge and 90s alt rock singers. D Jr. and the Meat Puppets are the influence. 

    Merkin Baller said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    brianlux said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    Dinosaur Jr. - Loud Country.
    Rush - birth of Prog-metal
    The Damned - Birth of Goth Rock
    Husker Du - melodic hardcore
    Johnny Cash - the legend


    A vote for ear-bleeding country- AWESOME!  :smiley:
    There is a little country twang in all the grunge and 90s alt rock singers. D Jr. and the Meat Puppets are the influence. 
    I love the country overtones in the Meat Puppets’ music. 

    Whatever happened to Meat Puppets?  They did some great stuff!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,498
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    You know who is missing on this list?  Alanis Morrissette.  She single handedly made women taken seriously in music.  Yes, before her were others but you really saw an explosion of talent after Jagged came out.

    I still think I'd have to list Carole King, Janis Joplin, or Patti Smith before Alanis.  Also, No offense to the fine singer, but I kind of doubt Alanis will be seen so much as a major innovator in the long run.  Maybe too soon to tell.
    I thought about them, even Loretta Lynn, Hazel Scott or Odetta Holmes.  She was a huge breakout though like I mentioned.  The world of womens music was greatly effected by her.

    I wonder if Shania Twain or Garth Brooks could be in there?  Those 2 also propelled modern country music.

    As far as only 5?  I couldn't do it.  The 5 if I had to would be Hank Williams, Elvis, Beatles, Jimi and Nirvana.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,498
    GB281198 said:
    Sister Rosetta Tharpe doesn't get the recognition for her contribution to rock and roll that she deserves. 
    She sang , for the times, the dirty music yes?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    You know who is missing on this list?  Alanis Morrissette.  She single handedly made women taken seriously in music.  Yes, before her were others but you really saw an explosion of talent after Jagged came out.

    I still think I'd have to list Carole King, Janis Joplin, or Patti Smith before Alanis.  Also, No offense to the fine singer, but I kind of doubt Alanis will be seen so much as a major innovator in the long run.  Maybe too soon to tell.
    I thought about them, even Loretta Lynn, Hazel Scott or Odetta Holmes.  She was a huge breakout though like I mentioned.  The world of womens music was greatly effected by her.

    I wonder if Shania Twain or Garth Brooks could be in there?  Those 2 also propelled modern country music.

    As far as only 5?  I couldn't do it.  The 5 if I had to would be Hank Williams, Elvis, Beatles, Jimi and Nirvana.

    Good choices (if you had to limit to 5, haha!)
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,498
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    You know who is missing on this list?  Alanis Morrissette.  She single handedly made women taken seriously in music.  Yes, before her were others but you really saw an explosion of talent after Jagged came out.

    I still think I'd have to list Carole King, Janis Joplin, or Patti Smith before Alanis.  Also, No offense to the fine singer, but I kind of doubt Alanis will be seen so much as a major innovator in the long run.  Maybe too soon to tell.
    I thought about them, even Loretta Lynn, Hazel Scott or Odetta Holmes.  She was a huge breakout though like I mentioned.  The world of womens music was greatly effected by her.

    I wonder if Shania Twain or Garth Brooks could be in there?  Those 2 also propelled modern country music.

    As far as only 5?  I couldn't do it.  The 5 if I had to would be Hank Williams, Elvis, Beatles, Jimi and Nirvana.

    Good choices (if you had to limit to 5, haha!)
    Every couple of years someone comes along and shakes up the music industry a little bit, that's why 5 is so tuff. 
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    If Lou Reed wasn’t mentioned yet, he certainly should be

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