#46 President Joe Biden

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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,379
    cincybearcat said:
    Stuff like this is just pure political nonsense. It’s for the stupid people…unfortunately it works 
    That's the problem with a democracy with a substantial amount of stupid.
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,920
    hedonist said:
    Is it “be a dick to others” day again already?

    Shoulda marked my calendar, dammit. 

    There’s been a lot of “both sides” rhetoric on AMT recently. Given the current state of republicanism, that seems a bit unreasonable 
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Lerxst1992 said:
    hedonist said:
    Is it “be a dick to others” day again already?

    Shoulda marked my calendar, dammit. 

    There’s been a lot of “both sides” rhetoric on AMT recently. Given the current state of republicanism, that seems a bit unreasonable 
    I was talking about some people being beyond giddy at taking down a fellow poster. Not only entertaining, but classy too. 
  • mace1229
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    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    Could something as simple as a fist bump be the straw that broke the camel's back?

    From the link:
    "What was Joe Biden thinking? His excruciating fist bump with Mohammed bin Salman, the Saudi crown prince he and much of the world regard as a murderer, marks the low point of a presidency that is slowly dying on its feet."...
    ..."Maybe he’s not thinking clearly at all. When a president’s approval rating drops to 33%, as Biden’s did last week, when most Democrats say he’s too old to run again, and when inflation is driving maddened voters into the arms of opponents, the mind tends to mist up."



    You shake hands,  you bow or in covid times,  you first bump.  The smallest of issues..

    The issue- from what I understand- is not the method of greeting but, rather, the friendly gesture toward a man consider by much of the world to be a murderer.  The hand bump may factor in slightly because it might be taken as an overly friendly gesture, but the issue is more about being seen as cozening up to a murderer. 
    It's not a huge deal to me- people in power have greeted murderous others in power before as part of the business of politics.  But Biden is on thin ice as it is and each movement taken to be a blunder only sets him back further.
    But maybe even that is not a big deal... if Joe does not intend to run again.  I certainly do not mean to disparage the man, I'm just curious.
    That's my point.. fist bump is what you do in lieu of shaking during covid. If they shook hands,  would we care?
    I wouldn’t care. But I think those complaining about a fist bump still would. As already mentioned, it wasn’t about the first bump, it was about being friendly with a political leader who killed a journalist. But other presidents have been as friendly with worse leaders, so I don’t see the big deal here. What’s he supposed to do, hold his hand out and at the last minute pull it back with a “sike!”?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    Could something as simple as a fist bump be the straw that broke the camel's back?

    From the link:
    "What was Joe Biden thinking? His excruciating fist bump with Mohammed bin Salman, the Saudi crown prince he and much of the world regard as a murderer, marks the low point of a presidency that is slowly dying on its feet."...
    ..."Maybe he’s not thinking clearly at all. When a president’s approval rating drops to 33%, as Biden’s did last week, when most Democrats say he’s too old to run again, and when inflation is driving maddened voters into the arms of opponents, the mind tends to mist up."



    You shake hands,  you bow or in covid times,  you first bump.  The smallest of issues..

    The issue- from what I understand- is not the method of greeting but, rather, the friendly gesture toward a man consider by much of the world to be a murderer.  The hand bump may factor in slightly because it might be taken as an overly friendly gesture, but the issue is more about being seen as cozening up to a murderer. 
    It's not a huge deal to me- people in power have greeted murderous others in power before as part of the business of politics.  But Biden is on thin ice as it is and each movement taken to be a blunder only sets him back further.
    But maybe even that is not a big deal... if Joe does not intend to run again.  I certainly do not mean to disparage the man, I'm just curious.
    That's my point.. fist bump is what you do in lieu of shaking during covid. If they shook hands,  would we care?
    I wouldn’t care. But I think those complaining about a fist bump still would. As already mentioned, it wasn’t about the first bump, it was about being friendly with a political leader who killed a journalist. But other presidents have been as friendly with worse leaders, so I don’t see the big deal here. What’s he supposed to do, hold his hand out and at the last minute pull it back with a “sike!”?
    Agreed.  Realpolitik is a thing. 
  • brianlux
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    I have to remember to think twice about what I post here.  Sheesh, the blow back some times!
     
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  • mickeyrat
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    brianlux said:
    I have to remember to think twice about what I post here.  Sheesh, the blow back some times!
     

    if this was in reference to my reply, it wasnt directed at you personally but rather the whole of the nation. Far too  many seem to expect to have it both ways. We simply cannot. I do not believe you fall into that camp.
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  • Lerxst1992
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    OnWis97 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    cincybearcat said:
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    cincybearcat said:
    Man Biden is looking really old and frail.  I cannot wait until we have a president south of 70 again!  
    It’s sad honestly. He should just be enjoying whatever is left of his life imo. Who the fuck would want to do this at that age? 
    Yup.  If you are trying to do that job well, and I am sure Biden is trying, it takes so much out of you anyhow.  I cannot imagine it at his age.  
    If the country doesn't get some relief soon his legacy will be tarnished and no way he gets a second term.
    I don't think anyone really wants that second term, including him.

    The Dems really need their next Obama to emerge...hopefully within a year. There are some OK people that could do the job but with their electoral college disadvantages, they really need someone like Obama that people just gravitate towards and are willing to get out and vote for. For about 10 minutes a few years ago, I thought it could be Beto. Since then I have no idea. Gavin Newsome thinks it might be him, but it's not. That person's not going to come from California.


    It might just be, he gets it.



    ” You also have to recognize what you’re up against.

    And right now we’re up against the ruthlessness of the Republican party.

    And I say that, not naively. I don’t say that…that’s not a cheap shot.

    You see what’s happening to all of the progress we’ve made in the 21st century.

    All of the rights that we, in many ways, have taken for granted; that have been afforded since the 60’s, are being rolled back in real-time.

    This is a totally different moment.

    We have to wake up with a different mindset.

    And not just a mindset, in terms of a collaborative mindset, a cup of tea and everyone is going to work together and get along in big ways to advance the collective cause.

    That's where the party needs to come in.

    Democrats need the Democratic party—not the President, not a Speaker, not an elected office holder—the party, the infrastructure, I think, has to organize with more ferocity of focus, more determination to set the agenda; set the course and put the other party on the defense.

    They are dominating the narrative.

    The facts aren't on their side but they're dominating the narrative.

    And in this world right now, you dominate the narrative you win and that's what I'm worried about and that's what I’m expressing.”

  • brianlux
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    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    I have to remember to think twice about what I post here.  Sheesh, the blow back some times!
     

    if this was in reference to my reply, it wasnt directed at you personally but rather the whole of the nation. Far too  many seem to expect to have it both ways. We simply cannot. I do not believe you fall into that camp.

    No, M, not at all.  Just in general, the fist bump issue went on and on.  But hey, AMT, what's new?  :lol:
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,202
    Biden tests positive for COVID
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  • mrussel1
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    Gern Blansten said:
    Biden tests positive for COVID
    How do you test positive for a fake illness?
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Gern Blansten said:
    Biden tests positive for COVID
    I learned this because "President Harris" is trending and people are freaking out. Gee, I wonder why.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,202
    OnWis97 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Biden tests positive for COVID
    I learned this because "President Harris" is trending and people are freaking out. Gee, I wonder why.
    Yeah I told my wife that the magats are going to have all sorts of conspiracy theories. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Gern Blansten said:
    Biden tests positive for COVID
    Was it caused by the Italian space laser or the Jewish satellite?
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  • gimmesometruth27
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    unless he does an evening rush hour flight to walter reed via marine one, it isn't really covid.
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    gimmesometruth27 said:
    unless he does an evening rush hour flight to walter reed via marine one, it isn't really covid.
    And triumphantly marches alone from the WH to Marine One, turns at the top of the stairs, turns around, and snaps his suit jacket with his jaw jutted out.
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  • Bentleyspop
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Biden tests positive for COVID
    Was it caused by the Italian space laser or the Jewish satellite?
    Venezuelan voting machine
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    Bentleyspop said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Biden tests positive for COVID
    Was it caused by the Italian space laser or the Jewish satellite?
    Venezuelan voting machine
    Hugo Chavez is a sneaky MoFo!
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    Anyone read Heather yet? Thanks Brandon, appreciate the train wreck your administration is. Can’t wait to vote for it again.
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