imagine being so angry and dissatisfied that you were constantly faux outraged by the Biden administration trying to help average Americans. Not only that but coming up with conspiracies and nonsense to justify your awful positions. what a terrible existence that must be.
It has to be frustrating for them to spend 6 months focusing on it, instead of stuff that actually matters, and to still only have the 30%ish deplorable base really give a shit about it too.
I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college. I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain. Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves. The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education.
What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education?
Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?! No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.
Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?
tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either.
I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump".
Because
He
Has
A
Thirty
Point
Lead.
After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness.
Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.
and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
Anyone remember the supply chain issue? How about the lack of baby formula crisis? Inflation? Maybe unemployment? Remember that? How about that train derailment? Maybe the bridge collapse on 95? The border crisis, surely you remember that? Hunter Biden’s lap top!
You’ll do anything to support cop killer trump? You have any evidence against Biden?
how about including that two billion dollar trump saudi pay to play deal, and after that you still voted for trump? Guess pay to play is ok if it’s a done by a family of self admitted fifth av muderers?
I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college. I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain. Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves. The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education.
What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education?
Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?! No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.
Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?
tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either.
I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump".
Because
He
Has
A
Thirty
Point
Lead.
After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness.
Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.
and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?
America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt.
Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself.
I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college. I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain. Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves. The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education.
What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education?
Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?! No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.
Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?
tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either.
I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump".
Because
He
Has
A
Thirty
Point
Lead.
After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness.
Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.
and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?
America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt.
Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself.
Alive and breathing? He is the twice impeached, twice indicted former president who is far and away the front runner for your maga gop party for next year's election. He also added trillions (not billions) we don't have for a hand out to the wealthy and corporations. How do you not get how this is an extremely reasonable comparison? lol
If you have trouble defending the guy you voted for twice, perhaps you should consider supporting someone who is not a threat to ending our democracy as we know it.
I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college. I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain. Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves. The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education.
What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education?
Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?! No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.
Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?
tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either.
I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump".
Because
He
Has
A
Thirty
Point
Lead.
After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness.
Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.
and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?
America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt.
Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself.
Alive and breathing? He is the twice impeached, twice indicted former president who is far and away the front runner for your maga gop party for next year's election. He also added trillions (not billions) we don't have for a hand out to the wealthy and corporations. How do you not get how this is an extremely reasonable comparison? lol
If you have trouble defending the guy you voted for twice, perhaps you should consider supporting someone who is not a threat to ending our democracy as we know it.
I’m in Athens, overlooking the acropolis right now. The amount of fighting to keep democracy alive, and humanity at large… are we even worth it? These days, I can’t help but think of the collective us as a dangerous and destructive cesspool of a species. We don’t deserve such a special place (earth). The other species don’t deserve the awful fates we bring upon them.
'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college. I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain. Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves. The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education.
What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education?
Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?! No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.
Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?
tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either.
I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump".
Because
He
Has
A
Thirty
Point
Lead.
After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness.
Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.
and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?
America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt.
Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself.
If you have evidence Biden did something wrong, please share.
as far as debt goes, both parties contribute to that. Republicans only care about it when a dem is in the White House. Otherwise, it’s huge tax cuts for the wealthy, which add tons to the debt, while providing scraps for the middle class. Dems have a far better record lowering deficits than the gop does.
our military is damn expensive. Cut there and stop trying to pull PBJ sandwiches from the hands of poor hungry folks.
I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college. I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain. Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves. The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education.
What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education?
Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?! No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.
Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?
tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either.
I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump".
Because
He
Has
A
Thirty
Point
Lead.
After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness.
Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.
and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?
America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt.
Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself.
Funny did you have a problem when the GOP passed that tax break that resulted in trillions of added debt to our budget?
I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college. I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain. Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves. The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education.
What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education?
Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?! No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.
Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?
tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either.
I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump".
Because
He
Has
A
Thirty
Point
Lead.
After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness.
Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.
and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?
America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt.
Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself.
Wake up, JB.
The demagogues you support and defend with such passion and vigor are the ones driving our country into the ground.
“Tax cuts initially enacted during Republican trifectas in the past 25 years slashed taxes disproportionately for the wealthy and profitable corporations, severely reducing federal revenues. In fact, relative to earlier projections, spending is down, not up. But revenues are down significantly more. If not for the Bush tax cuts4and their extensions5—as well as the Trump tax cuts6—revenues would be on track to keep pace with spending indefinitely, and the debt ratio (debt as a percentage of the economy) would be declining. Instead, these tax cuts have added $10 trillion to the debt since their enactment and are responsible for 57 percent of the increase in the debt ratio since 2001, and more than 90 percent of the increase in the debt ratio if the one-time costs of bills responding to COVID-19 and the Great Recession are excluded. Eventually, the tax cuts are projected to grow to more than 100 percent of the increase.”
I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college. I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain. Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves. The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education.
What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education?
Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?! No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.
Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?
tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either.
I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump".
Because
He
Has
A
Thirty
Point
Lead.
After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness.
Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.
and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?
America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt.
Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself.
Funny did you have a problem when the GOP passed that tax break that resulted in trillions of added debt to our budget?
I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college. I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain. Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves. The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education.
What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education?
Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?! No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.
Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?
tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either.
I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump".
Because
He
Has
A
Thirty
Point
Lead.
After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness.
Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.
and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?
America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt.
Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself.
Wake up, JB.
The demagogues you support and defend with such passion and vigor are the ones driving our country into the ground.
“Tax cuts initially enacted during Republican trifectas in the past 25 years slashed taxes disproportionately for the wealthy and profitable corporations, severely reducing federal revenues. In fact, relative to earlier projections, spending is down, not up. But revenues are down significantly more. If not for the Bush tax cuts4and their extensions5—as well as the Trump tax cuts6—revenues would be on track to keep pace with spending indefinitely, and the debt ratio (debt as a percentage of the economy) would be declining. Instead, these tax cuts have added $10 trillion to the debt since their enactment and are responsible for 57 percent of the increase in the debt ratio since 2001, and more than 90 percent of the increase in the debt ratio if the one-time costs of bills responding to COVID-19 and the Great Recession are excluded. Eventually, the tax cuts are projected to grow to more than 100 percent of the increase.”
The demagogues I support? What the fuck are you even talking about? Fuck Trump, Fuck Bush, Fuck Republicans and Fuck this pathetic excuse for a message board. This place is a fucking cult.
I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college. I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain. Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves. The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education.
What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education?
Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?! No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.
Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?
tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either.
I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump".
Because
He
Has
A
Thirty
Point
Lead.
After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness.
Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.
and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?
America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt.
Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself.
If you have evidence Biden did something wrong, please share.
as far as debt goes, both parties contribute to that. Republicans only care about it when a dem is in the White House. Otherwise, it’s huge tax cuts for the wealthy, which add tons to the debt, while providing scraps for the middle class. Dems have a far better record lowering deficits than the gop does.
our military is damn expensive. Cut there and stop trying to pull PBJ sandwiches from the hands of poor hungry folks.
News flash!!! Joe Biden has not lowered the deficit. He has lied about lowering the deficit and you foolishly believed him.
I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college. I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain. Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves. The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education.
What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education?
Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?! No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.
Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?
tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either.
I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump".
Because
He
Has
A
Thirty
Point
Lead.
After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness.
Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.
and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?
America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt.
Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself.
If you have evidence Biden did something wrong, please share.
as far as debt goes, both parties contribute to that. Republicans only care about it when a dem is in the White House. Otherwise, it’s huge tax cuts for the wealthy, which add tons to the debt, while providing scraps for the middle class. Dems have a far better record lowering deficits than the gop does.
our military is damn expensive. Cut there and stop trying to pull PBJ sandwiches from the hands of poor hungry folks.
News flash!!! Joe Biden has not lowered the deficit. He has lied about lowering the deficit and you foolishly believed him.
The deficit did drop in 21 and 22, but that was due to Covid measures that expired not due to the Inflation Reduction Act. The deficit will continue to decline, according to the CBO, based on the IRA. But you're correct, the bill did not directly connect to the smaller deficit (NOT debt).
I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college. I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain. Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves. The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education.
What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education?
Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?! No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.
Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?
tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either.
I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump".
Because
He
Has
A
Thirty
Point
Lead.
After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness.
Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.
and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?
America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt.
Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself.
Wake up, JB.
The demagogues you support and defend with such passion and vigor are the ones driving our country into the ground.
“Tax cuts initially enacted during Republican trifectas in the past 25 years slashed taxes disproportionately for the wealthy and profitable corporations, severely reducing federal revenues. In fact, relative to earlier projections, spending is down, not up. But revenues are down significantly more. If not for the Bush tax cuts4and their extensions5—as well as the Trump tax cuts6—revenues would be on track to keep pace with spending indefinitely, and the debt ratio (debt as a percentage of the economy) would be declining. Instead, these tax cuts have added $10 trillion to the debt since their enactment and are responsible for 57 percent of the increase in the debt ratio since 2001, and more than 90 percent of the increase in the debt ratio if the one-time costs of bills responding to COVID-19 and the Great Recession are excluded. Eventually, the tax cuts are projected to grow to more than 100 percent of the increase.”
The demagogues I support? What the fuck are you even talking about? Fuck Trump, Fuck Bush, Fuck Republicans and Fuck this pathetic excuse for a message board. This place is a fucking cult.
I can't help but notice you did not address the larger point expressed in this post you replied to. I wonder why...
I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college. I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain. Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves. The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education.
What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education?
Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?! No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.
Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?
tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either.
I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump".
Because
He
Has
A
Thirty
Point
Lead.
After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness.
Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.
and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?
America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt.
Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself.
If you have evidence Biden did something wrong, please share.
as far as debt goes, both parties contribute to that. Republicans only care about it when a dem is in the White House. Otherwise, it’s huge tax cuts for the wealthy, which add tons to the debt, while providing scraps for the middle class. Dems have a far better record lowering deficits than the gop does.
our military is damn expensive. Cut there and stop trying to pull PBJ sandwiches from the hands of poor hungry folks.
News flash!!! Joe Biden has not lowered the deficit. He has lied about lowering the deficit and you foolishly believed him.
The deficit did drop in 21 and 22, but that was due to Covid measures that expired not due to the Inflation Reduction Act. The deficit will continue to decline, according to the CBO, based on the IRA. But you're correct, the bill did not directly connect to the smaller deficit (NOT debt).
And JB, i did say Dems have a better track record (by far) than republicans, not specifically Biden.
i’ll agree that Biden did raise some spending, including-
infrastructure bill - the USA is renowned for crumbling infrastructure. Should we continue to ignore safety just because the gop likes to spend billions on military so there is nothing left for domestic spending?
climate bill - is it hot enough for you lately @JB16057 ? Obviously, we are destroying the one thing that keeps us alive. Acknowledging that, should we continue to ignore the environment?
I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college. I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain. Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves. The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education.
What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education?
Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?! No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.
Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?
tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either.
I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump".
Because
He
Has
A
Thirty
Point
Lead.
After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness.
Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.
and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?
America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt.
Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself.
If you have evidence Biden did something wrong, please share.
as far as debt goes, both parties contribute to that. Republicans only care about it when a dem is in the White House. Otherwise, it’s huge tax cuts for the wealthy, which add tons to the debt, while providing scraps for the middle class. Dems have a far better record lowering deficits than the gop does.
our military is damn expensive. Cut there and stop trying to pull PBJ sandwiches from the hands of poor hungry folks.
News flash!!! Joe Biden has not lowered the deficit. He has lied about lowering the deficit and you foolishly believed him.
The deficit did drop in 21 and 22, but that was due to Covid measures that expired not due to the Inflation Reduction Act. The deficit will continue to decline, according to the CBO, based on the IRA. But you're correct, the bill did not directly connect to the smaller deficit (NOT debt).
And JB, i did say Dems have a better track record (by far) than republicans, not specifically Biden.
i’ll agree that Biden did raise some spending, including-
infrastructure bill - the USA is renowned for crumbling infrastructure. Should we continue to ignore safety just because the gop likes to spend billions on military so there is nothing left for domestic spending?
climate bill - is it hot enough for you lately @JB16057 ? Obviously, we are destroying the one thing that keeps us alive. Acknowledging that, should we continue to ignore the environment?
You absolutely can adjust spending and lower the deficit. That is true of the IRA based on CBO estimates. There's no reason Democrats need to apologize for it. Low taxes and low debt isn't the mantra of the party. It's the mantra of the Republicans, they just suck at doing both of those, as we see by Bush and Trump.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college. I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain. Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves. The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education.
What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education?
Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?! No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.
Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?
tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either.
I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump".
Because
He
Has
A
Thirty
Point
Lead.
After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness.
Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.
and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?
America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt.
Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself.
Funny did you have a problem when the GOP passed that tax break that resulted in trillions of added debt to our budget?
Yes
Funny I don’t remember you here questioning it! Im not saying you didn’t I just don’t remember it
I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college. I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain. Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves. The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education.
What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education?
Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?! No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.
Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?
tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either.
I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump".
Because
He
Has
A
Thirty
Point
Lead.
After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness.
Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.
and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?
America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt.
Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself.
Funny did you have a problem when the GOP passed that tax break that resulted in trillions of added debt to our budget?
Yes
Funny I don’t remember you here questioning it! Im not saying you didn’t I just don’t remember it
He didn't say anything about it then. Biiiiiig problem with billions now, but said nothing about trillions then.
I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college. I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain. Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves. The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education.
What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education?
Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?! No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.
Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?
tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either.
I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump".
Because
He
Has
A
Thirty
Point
Lead.
After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness.
Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.
and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?
America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt.
Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself.
If you have evidence Biden did something wrong, please share.
as far as debt goes, both parties contribute to that. Republicans only care about it when a dem is in the White House. Otherwise, it’s huge tax cuts for the wealthy, which add tons to the debt, while providing scraps for the middle class. Dems have a far better record lowering deficits than the gop does.
our military is damn expensive. Cut there and stop trying to pull PBJ sandwiches from the hands of poor hungry folks.
News flash!!! Joe Biden has not lowered the deficit. He has lied about lowering the deficit and you foolishly believed him.
The deficit did drop in 21 and 22, but that was due to Covid measures that expired not due to the Inflation Reduction Act. The deficit will continue to decline, according to the CBO, based on the IRA. But you're correct, the bill did not directly connect to the smaller deficit (NOT debt).
I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college. I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain. Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves. The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education.
What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education?
Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?! No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.
Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?
tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either.
I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump".
Because
He
Has
A
Thirty
Point
Lead.
After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness.
Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.
and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?
America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt.
Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself.
Funny did you have a problem when the GOP passed that tax break that resulted in trillions of added debt to our budget?
Yes
Funny I don’t remember you here questioning it! Im not saying you didn’t I just don’t remember it
Here we are again..... So if I didn't complain about it on a Pearl Jam message board, I must never have complained about it? You do realize how stupid that sounds right?
You never said you like spaghetti on this message board so you must hate spaghetti.
I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college. I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain. Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves. The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education.
What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education?
Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?! No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.
Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?
tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either.
I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump".
Because
He
Has
A
Thirty
Point
Lead.
After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness.
Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.
and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?
America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt.
Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself.
Funny did you have a problem when the GOP passed that tax break that resulted in trillions of added debt to our budget?
Yes
Funny I don’t remember you here questioning it! Im not saying you didn’t I just don’t remember it
Here we are again..... So if I didn't complain about it on a Pearl Jam message board, I must never have complained about it? You do realize how stupid that sounds right?
You never said you like spaghetti on this message board so you must hate spaghetti.
When you spend a lot of time complaining about it during a democratic administration as opposed to never bringing it up during a republican administration, it comes off as very hypocritical and disingenuous...especially since what your complaining about is trillions less than what you said nothing about.
The spaghetti comment comes off as disingenuous as well, btw....
I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college. I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain. Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves. The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education.
What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education?
Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?! No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.
Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?
tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either.
I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump".
Because
He
Has
A
Thirty
Point
Lead.
After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness.
Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.
and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?
America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt.
Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself.
If you have evidence Biden did something wrong, please share.
as far as debt goes, both parties contribute to that. Republicans only care about it when a dem is in the White House. Otherwise, it’s huge tax cuts for the wealthy, which add tons to the debt, while providing scraps for the middle class. Dems have a far better record lowering deficits than the gop does.
our military is damn expensive. Cut there and stop trying to pull PBJ sandwiches from the hands of poor hungry folks.
News flash!!! Joe Biden has not lowered the deficit. He has lied about lowering the deficit and you foolishly believed him.
The deficit did drop in 21 and 22, but that was due to Covid measures that expired not due to the Inflation Reduction Act. The deficit will continue to decline, according to the CBO, based on the IRA. But you're correct, the bill did not directly connect to the smaller deficit (NOT debt).
The chyron was displayed as Jimenez reported live from Kenosha at around 5 a.m. ET on Tuesday after a second night of protests rocked the city following the police shooting of Jacob Blake, a 29-year-old Black man, on Sunday.
"What you're seeing behind me is one of multiple locations that have been burning in Kenosha, Wisconsin, over the course of the night," Jimenez said during his report.
"What you're seeing now, these images... come in stark contrast to what we saw over the course of the daytime hours in Kenosha and into the early evening, which were largely peaceful demonstrations in the face of law enforcement.
"It wasn't until night fell that they began to get a little bit more contentious, things were thrown back and forth, police started using some of those crowd dispersal tactics like tear gas."
ion over what people feel like has become an all too familiar story playing out in places from across the country, not just here in Kenosha, Wisconsin."
I can't let the week go by without helping to inform you guys about your buddy Joe Bribem. For some reason you guys don't seem to shop at certain news organizations that actually report his nefarious side. Hmmmmmm.
Mickey may doubt this as it may not get covered by the AP, Reuters, NYT or WP but I hope an official FBI 1023 form will be ok?
Here’s Everything In The Damning FD-1023 Document That Implicates Biden In An International Bribery Scheme
damning FD-1023 document detailing then-Vice President Joe Biden’s Burisma bribery scheme was made public on Thursday by Sen. Chuck Grassley. The record shows Biden fired a Ukrainian prosecutor tasked with investigating the energy company his son was a board member of in exchange for a total of $10 million.
Delaware prosecutors hid the document from IRS investigators who say it would have aided their tax crime probe. The FBI, similarly, stonewalled publicizing the bombshell form, which earned FBI Director Christopher Wray the ire of Grassley and other Republicans focused on exposing Biden family corruption. House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer even threatened to hold Wray in contempt unless he obeyed subpoenas and handed over the document.
Grassley now possesses the record, which was always unclassified, and chose to share it with the public so Americans are aware of the impeachable, international corruption plaguing our chief of state, despite his incessant denials that he knows anything about his son’s overseas business dealings.
“For the better part of a year, I’ve been pushing the Justice Department and FBI to provide details on its handling of very significant allegations from a trusted FBI informant implicating then-Vice President Biden in a criminal bribery scheme,” Grassley said in a statement. “While the FBI sought to obfuscate and redact, the American people can now read this document for themselves, without the filter of politicians or bureaucrats, thanks to brave and heroic whistleblowers. What did the Justice Department and FBI do with the detailed information in the document? And why have they tried to conceal it from Congress and the American people for so long? The Justice Department and FBI have failed to come clean, but Chairman Comer and I intend to find out.”
Here’s everything we know about the Bidens’ shady involvement with Ukrainian energy executives from the form FD-1023.
Burisma Hired Hunter To ‘Protect Us, Through His Dad’
In a 2015 or 2016 meeting with Burisma executives in Ukraine, the unnamed confidential human source said he heard from the company’s CFO Vadim Pojarskii that Hunter Biden was hired to the board of directors to “protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems.” The CHS claims Pojarskii did not elaborate on that allegation.
When asked on the 2020 campaign trail whether it was wrong for Hunter “to take that position, knowing that it was really because that company wanted access to you,” Biden claimed, “That’s not true.”
“You’re saying things you do not know what you’re talking about,” Biden replied curtly. “No one said that. Who said that?”
Biden Was Key To Burisma’s U.S. Dealings
In a different Vienna, Austria coffee shop meeting around the same time then-Vice President Biden called for the firing of Ukraine Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin, Burisma CEO and founder Mykola Zlochevsky waved off the CHS’s concerns about completing a U.S. deal amid Shokin’s investigation into Burisma.
“Don’t worry Hunter will take care of all of those issues through his dad,” Zlochevsky said.
Burisma Was Not Innocent
No matter how many times the CHS tried to convince Zlochevsky that creating a U.S. entity or buying a “corporate shell” would be a cheaper way to put down business roots in the Western part of the world, the Burisma CEO refused. Instead, Zlochevsky that Hunter “advised Burisma it could raise much more capital if Burisma purchased a larger US-based business that already had a history In the US oil and gas sector.”
“CHS advised Zlochevsky it would be problematic to raise capital in the US given Shokin’s investigation into Burisma as nobody in the US would invest in a company that was the subject of a criminal investigation,” the form notes. “CHS suggested it would best if Burisma simply litigate the matter in Ukraine, and pay some attorney $50,000.”
Zlochevsky replied that Burisma would not survive a trial “because he could not show that Burisma was innocent.”
Hunter and Joe Accepted $10 Million Bribe To Fire Problematic Ukraine Prosecutor
In that same meeting, Zlochevsky claimed: “It costs 5 (million) to pay one Biden, and 5 (million) to another Biden.”
Later in the conversation, he told CHS, “It’s too late to change his decision” to keep the Bidens involved in the company’s wheeling and dealings.
“CHS understood this to mean that Zlochevsky had already paid the Bidens, presumably to deal with Shokin,” the document states.
In a 2016 or 2017 phone call with the CHS, Zlochevsky confirmed Shokin was fired and expressed confidence that “nobody would find out about his financial dealings with the Bidens.”
Hunter Biden Was Not Qualified To Be On Burisma’s Board
Hunter received approximately $50,000 a month to sit on Burisma’s board, but not even the company’s executives were fooled into believing he deserved to be there.
In his meeting with the CHS in Kyiv, Pojarskii admitted that Hunter “was not smart,” which is why the company required extra assistance and counsel when it came to possibly merging with a U.S.-based oil and gas company.
In the CHS’s meeting in Vienna, Zlochevsky claimed Hunter “was stupid, and his (Zlochevsky’s) dog was smarter.” Zlochevsky said Burisma merely kept Hunter employed “so everything will be okay.”
When the CHS asked if either Hunter or Joe demanded Burisma keep Hunter on the board, Zlochevsky said, “They both did.”
The CHS encouraged Zlochevsky to move ahead with removing the Bidens “so that the matter will remain an issue in Ukraine, and not turn into some international matter,” but Zlochevsky declined.
“Don’t worry, this thing will go away anyway,” he reassured the CHS.
Bidens Coerced Burisma Execs To Pay Them Off
In a 2016 or 2017 phone call with the CHS, Zlochevsky expressed unhappiness that former President Donald Trump won the election because “he didn’t want to pay the Bidens and he was ‘pushed to pay’ them.”
The Russian term Zlochevsky used to describe how he felt, the CHS clarified, is Russian criminal slang for “forced or coerced to pay.” Zlochevsky said he not only possessed communications about his payment to the Bidens but also recordings proving he was forced.
When the CHS said Zlochevsky “should make certain that he should retain those recordings,” the Burisma executive scrambled.
“Zlochevsky asked whether it would make any (legal) difference whether he voluntarily made such payments, or if he was forced to make them. Zlochevsky then asked CHS whether CHS could provide any assistance in Ukraine (with the Poroshenko regime) if something were to happen to Zlochevsky in the future. CHS replied that CHS didn’t want to get involved in any such matters,” the document states.
Zlochevsky Sent Payments To Bidens Through Indirect Accounts
Zlochevsky’s scrambling continued in a 2019 phone call with the CHS in which he expressed worry that investigators were catching onto the Burisma Biden bribery scandal.
In that conversation, Zlochevsky admitted he “did not send any funds directly to the ‘Big Guy’ (which CHS understood was a reference to Joe Biden).”Zlochevsky then declared it would take investigators at least a decade to uncover the illegal bribes to Joe.
This confession confirms what House Republicans suspected and subsequently proved about how the Bidens received their payments.
One Guy Present For Biden Bribery Meetings Works For Zelensky
At the end of the document is a statement noting that Oleksandr Ostapenko, who was present at several of the meetings between the CHS and Burisma executives and “introduced CHS into this matter,” now works for Ukraine head Volodymyr Zelensky’s regime. This is significant considering the Biden administration has funneled billions of dollars to the Zelensky regime, which is warring with Russia, without any semblance of accountability.
I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college. I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain. Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves. The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education.
What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education?
Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?! No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.
Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?
tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either.
I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump".
Because
He
Has
A
Thirty
Point
Lead.
After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness.
Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.
and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?
America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt.
Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself.
If you have evidence Biden did something wrong, please share.
as far as debt goes, both parties contribute to that. Republicans only care about it when a dem is in the White House. Otherwise, it’s huge tax cuts for the wealthy, which add tons to the debt, while providing scraps for the middle class. Dems have a far better record lowering deficits than the gop does.
our military is damn expensive. Cut there and stop trying to pull PBJ sandwiches from the hands of poor hungry folks.
News flash!!! Joe Biden has not lowered the deficit. He has lied about lowering the deficit and you foolishly believed him.
The deficit did drop in 21 and 22, but that was due to Covid measures that expired not due to the Inflation Reduction Act. The deficit will continue to decline, according to the CBO, based on the IRA. But you're correct, the bill did not directly connect to the smaller deficit (NOT debt).
The chyron was displayed as Jimenez reported live from Kenosha at around 5 a.m. ET on Tuesday after a second night of protests rocked the city following the police shooting of Jacob Blake, a 29-year-old Black man, on Sunday.
"What you're seeing behind me is one of multiple locations that have been burning in Kenosha, Wisconsin, over the course of the night," Jimenez said during his report.
"What you're seeing now, these images... come in stark contrast to what we saw over the course of the daytime hours in Kenosha and into the early evening, which were largely peaceful demonstrations in the face of law enforcement.
"It wasn't until night fell that they began to get a little bit more contentious, things were thrown back and forth, police started using some of those crowd dispersal tactics like tear gas."
ion over what people feel like has become an all too familiar story playing out in places from across the country, not just here in Kenosha, Wisconsin."
"The protests were peaceful, the riots at night were not"
I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college. I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain. Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves. The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education.
What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education?
Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?! No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.
Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?
tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either.
I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump".
Because
He
Has
A
Thirty
Point
Lead.
After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness.
Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.
and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?
America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt.
Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself.
If you have evidence Biden did something wrong, please share.
as far as debt goes, both parties contribute to that. Republicans only care about it when a dem is in the White House. Otherwise, it’s huge tax cuts for the wealthy, which add tons to the debt, while providing scraps for the middle class. Dems have a far better record lowering deficits than the gop does.
our military is damn expensive. Cut there and stop trying to pull PBJ sandwiches from the hands of poor hungry folks.
News flash!!! Joe Biden has not lowered the deficit. He has lied about lowering the deficit and you foolishly believed him.
The deficit did drop in 21 and 22, but that was due to Covid measures that expired not due to the Inflation Reduction Act. The deficit will continue to decline, according to the CBO, based on the IRA. But you're correct, the bill did not directly connect to the smaller deficit (NOT debt).
The chyron was displayed as Jimenez reported live from Kenosha at around 5 a.m. ET on Tuesday after a second night of protests rocked the city following the police shooting of Jacob Blake, a 29-year-old Black man, on Sunday.
"What you're seeing behind me is one of multiple locations that have been burning in Kenosha, Wisconsin, over the course of the night," Jimenez said during his report.
"What you're seeing now, these images... come in stark contrast to what we saw over the course of the daytime hours in Kenosha and into the early evening, which were largely peaceful demonstrations in the face of law enforcement.
"It wasn't until night fell that they began to get a little bit more contentious, things were thrown back and forth, police started using some of those crowd dispersal tactics like tear gas."
ion over what people feel like has become an all too familiar story playing out in places from across the country, not just here in Kenosha, Wisconsin."
"The protests were peaceful, the riots at night were not"
So when does a protest become unpeaceful?
Generally when people with different intentions show up after the ones who were there first. You don't think the same people who were marching peacefully during the day suddenly became crazed animals when the sun went down do you?
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and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
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how about including that two billion dollar trump saudi pay to play deal, and after that you still voted for trump? Guess pay to play is ok if it’s a done by a family of self admitted fifth av muderers?
America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt.
Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself.
If you have trouble defending the guy you voted for twice, perhaps you should consider supporting someone who is not a threat to ending our democracy as we know it.
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as far as debt goes, both parties contribute to that. Republicans only care about it when a dem is in the White House. Otherwise, it’s huge tax cuts for the wealthy, which add tons to the debt, while providing scraps for the middle class. Dems have a far better record lowering deficits than the gop does.
our military is damn expensive. Cut there and stop trying to pull PBJ sandwiches from the hands of poor hungry folks.
The demagogues you support and defend with such passion and vigor are the ones driving our country into the ground.
“Tax cuts initially enacted during Republican trifectas in the past 25 years slashed taxes disproportionately for the wealthy and profitable corporations, severely reducing federal revenues. In fact, relative to earlier projections, spending is down, not up. But revenues are down significantly more. If not for the Bush tax cuts4and their extensions5—as well as the Trump tax cuts6—revenues would be on track to keep pace with spending indefinitely, and the debt ratio (debt as a percentage of the economy) would be declining. Instead, these tax cuts have added $10 trillion to the debt since their enactment and are responsible for 57 percent of the increase in the debt ratio since 2001, and more than 90 percent of the increase in the debt ratio if the one-time costs of bills responding to COVID-19 and the Great Recession are excluded. Eventually, the tax cuts are projected to grow to more than 100 percent of the increase.”
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/tax-cuts-are-primarily-responsible-for-the-increasing-debt-ratio/
But just so you know, the source of this is CNN. They actually provide accurate information and are not a propaganda source like Fox. https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/16/politics/fact-check-biden-deficit-minimum-tax/index.html
i’ll agree that Biden did raise some spending, including-
infrastructure bill - the USA is renowned for crumbling infrastructure. Should we continue to ignore safety just because the gop likes to spend billions on military so there is nothing left for domestic spending?
climate bill - is it hot enough for you lately @JB16057 ? Obviously, we are destroying the one thing that keeps us alive. Acknowledging that, should we continue to ignore the environment?
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
The nerve of that guy! To actually make things better. Who does he think he is anyway?!
You never said you like spaghetti on this message board so you must hate spaghetti.
The spaghetti comment comes off as disingenuous as well, btw....
The protests were peaceful, the riots at night were not.
So what we have here is a dumb chyron, for sure. But accurate reporting none the less:
https://www.newsweek.com/cnn-mocked-calling-kenosha-riots-fiery-mostly-peaceful-protests-1527997
The chyron was displayed as Jimenez reported live from Kenosha at around 5 a.m. ET on Tuesday after a second night of protests rocked the city following the police shooting of Jacob Blake, a 29-year-old Black man, on Sunday.
"What you're seeing behind me is one of multiple locations that have been burning in Kenosha, Wisconsin, over the course of the night," Jimenez said during his report.
"What you're seeing now, these images... come in stark contrast to what we saw over the course of the daytime hours in Kenosha and into the early evening, which were largely peaceful demonstrations in the face of law enforcement.
"It wasn't until night fell that they began to get a little bit more contentious, things were thrown back and forth, police started using some of those crowd dispersal tactics like tear gas."
Mickey may doubt this as it may not get covered by the AP, Reuters, NYT or WP but I hope an official FBI 1023 form will be ok?
Here’s Everything In The Damning FD-1023 Document That Implicates Biden In An International Bribery Scheme
damning FD-1023 document detailing then-Vice President Joe Biden’s Burisma bribery scheme was made public on Thursday by Sen. Chuck Grassley. The record shows Biden fired a Ukrainian prosecutor tasked with investigating the energy company his son was a board member of in exchange for a total of $10 million.
Delaware prosecutors hid the document from IRS investigators who say it would have aided their tax crime probe. The FBI, similarly, stonewalled publicizing the bombshell form, which earned FBI Director Christopher Wray the ire of Grassley and other Republicans focused on exposing Biden family corruption. House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer even threatened to hold Wray in contempt unless he obeyed subpoenas and handed over the document.
Grassley now possesses the record, which was always unclassified, and chose to share it with the public so Americans are aware of the impeachable, international corruption plaguing our chief of state, despite his incessant denials that he knows anything about his son’s overseas business dealings.
“For the better part of a year, I’ve been pushing the Justice Department and FBI to provide details on its handling of very significant allegations from a trusted FBI informant implicating then-Vice President Biden in a criminal bribery scheme,” Grassley said in a statement. “While the FBI sought to obfuscate and redact, the American people can now read this document for themselves, without the filter of politicians or bureaucrats, thanks to brave and heroic whistleblowers. What did the Justice Department and FBI do with the detailed information in the document? And why have they tried to conceal it from Congress and the American people for so long? The Justice Department and FBI have failed to come clean, but Chairman Comer and I intend to find out.”
Here’s everything we know about the Bidens’ shady involvement with Ukrainian energy executives from the form FD-1023.
Burisma Hired Hunter To ‘Protect Us, Through His Dad’
In a 2015 or 2016 meeting with Burisma executives in Ukraine, the unnamed confidential human source said he heard from the company’s CFO Vadim Pojarskii that Hunter Biden was hired to the board of directors to “protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems.” The CHS claims Pojarskii did not elaborate on that allegation.
When asked on the 2020 campaign trail whether it was wrong for Hunter “to take that position, knowing that it was really because that company wanted access to you,” Biden claimed, “That’s not true.”
“You’re saying things you do not know what you’re talking about,” Biden replied curtly. “No one said that. Who said that?”
Biden Was Key To Burisma’s U.S. Dealings
In a different Vienna, Austria coffee shop meeting around the same time then-Vice President Biden called for the firing of Ukraine Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin, Burisma CEO and founder Mykola Zlochevsky waved off the CHS’s concerns about completing a U.S. deal amid Shokin’s investigation into Burisma.
“Don’t worry Hunter will take care of all of those issues through his dad,” Zlochevsky said.
Burisma Was Not Innocent
No matter how many times the CHS tried to convince Zlochevsky that creating a U.S. entity or buying a “corporate shell” would be a cheaper way to put down business roots in the Western part of the world, the Burisma CEO refused. Instead, Zlochevsky that Hunter “advised Burisma it could raise much more capital if Burisma purchased a larger US-based business that already had a history In the US oil and gas sector.”
“CHS advised Zlochevsky it would be problematic to raise capital in the US given Shokin’s investigation into Burisma as nobody in the US would invest in a company that was the subject of a criminal investigation,” the form notes. “CHS suggested it would best if Burisma simply litigate the matter in Ukraine, and pay some attorney $50,000.”
Zlochevsky replied that Burisma would not survive a trial “because he could not show that Burisma was innocent.”
Hunter and Joe Accepted $10 Million Bribe To Fire Problematic Ukraine Prosecutor
In that same meeting, Zlochevsky claimed: “It costs 5 (million) to pay one Biden, and 5 (million) to another Biden.”
Later in the conversation, he told CHS, “It’s too late to change his decision” to keep the Bidens involved in the company’s wheeling and dealings.
“CHS understood this to mean that Zlochevsky had already paid the Bidens, presumably to deal with Shokin,” the document states.
In a 2016 or 2017 phone call with the CHS, Zlochevsky confirmed Shokin was fired and expressed confidence that “nobody would find out about his financial dealings with the Bidens.”
Hunter Biden Was Not Qualified To Be On Burisma’s Board
Hunter received approximately $50,000 a month to sit on Burisma’s board, but not even the company’s executives were fooled into believing he deserved to be there.
In his meeting with the CHS in Kyiv, Pojarskii admitted that Hunter “was not smart,” which is why the company required extra assistance and counsel when it came to possibly merging with a U.S.-based oil and gas company.
In the CHS’s meeting in Vienna, Zlochevsky claimed Hunter “was stupid, and his (Zlochevsky’s) dog was smarter.” Zlochevsky said Burisma merely kept Hunter employed “so everything will be okay.”
When asked about his son, Biden often claims Hunter is a “very bright guy” and “the smartest guy I know.”
Joe Biden Told Burisma Not To Fire Hunter
When the CHS asked if either Hunter or Joe demanded Burisma keep Hunter on the board, Zlochevsky said, “They both did.”
The CHS encouraged Zlochevsky to move ahead with removing the Bidens “so that the matter will remain an issue in Ukraine, and not turn into some international matter,” but Zlochevsky declined.
“Don’t worry, this thing will go away anyway,” he reassured the CHS.
Bidens Coerced Burisma Execs To Pay Them Off
In a 2016 or 2017 phone call with the CHS, Zlochevsky expressed unhappiness that former President Donald Trump won the election because “he didn’t want to pay the Bidens and he was ‘pushed to pay’ them.”
The Russian term Zlochevsky used to describe how he felt, the CHS clarified, is Russian criminal slang for “forced or coerced to pay.” Zlochevsky said he not only possessed communications about his payment to the Bidens but also recordings proving he was forced.
When the CHS said Zlochevsky “should make certain that he should retain those recordings,” the Burisma executive scrambled.
“Zlochevsky asked whether it would make any (legal) difference whether he voluntarily made such payments, or if he was forced to make them. Zlochevsky then asked CHS whether CHS could provide any assistance in Ukraine (with the Poroshenko regime) if something were to happen to Zlochevsky in the future. CHS replied that CHS didn’t want to get involved in any
such matters,” the document states.
Zlochevsky Sent Payments To Bidens Through Indirect Accounts
Zlochevsky’s scrambling continued in a 2019 phone call with the CHS in which he expressed worry that investigators were catching onto the Burisma Biden bribery scandal.
In that conversation, Zlochevsky admitted he “did not send any funds directly to the ‘Big Guy’ (which CHS understood was a reference to Joe Biden).”Zlochevsky then declared it would take investigators at least a decade to uncover the illegal bribes to Joe.
This confession confirms what House Republicans suspected and subsequently proved about how the Bidens received their payments.
One Guy Present For Biden Bribery Meetings Works For Zelensky
At the end of the document is a statement noting that Oleksandr Ostapenko, who was present at several of the meetings between the CHS and Burisma executives and “introduced CHS into this matter,” now works for Ukraine head Volodymyr Zelensky’s regime. This is significant considering the Biden administration has funneled billions of dollars to the Zelensky regime, which is warring with Russia, without any semblance of accountability.
So when does a protest become unpeaceful?