Abortion-Keep Legal, Yes or No?
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Pro-life ‘till your born.Gern Blansten said:
Todd also pressed the governor on how horrible MS stats were toward supporting the poor. He asked if MS was going to step up their game given they want all of these "american children" to be born.Halifax2TheMax said:
"Its an 'American child?'" I guess he's pro abortion for the pregnant, cantaloupe calved, drug smuggling, illegal mamacitas? "Its an 'American child.'" Good grief.Gern Blansten said:I thought the Meet the Press interview with Tate Reeves (Gov of Mississippi) was interesting yesterday.
Chuck Todd pressed him on why there wasn't an exception for incest in MS when there is for rape and life of the mother. Tate sidestepped it and Todd pointed that out.
Tate's reasoning for being anti-abortion was that "it's an American child". But isn't it also an "American child" in the case of rape, incest and life of the mother?
Their argument falls apart immediately. You can't argue that life begins at conception with exceptions.
The right answer is that the government should not be able to step between a woman and her doctor.
If these guys are so prolife, why can't we force them to give up a kidney to someone who needs one?
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So will you support the legislation passed in the House to codify Roe v. Wade? Only about 30% of the House is female and apparently men aren't qualified to weigh in on this subject. Women vote in these representatives whether male or female. A male representative has to answer to his constituents which 50% are women. My assumption is that the male Republicans are voting in line for the most part with their constituency that elected them.mrussel1 said:
Once more, look at the lawmakers. Your social media search isn't exactly empirical or representative.PJPOWER said:I searched around on different social media pages for this topic and almost all of the comments supporting “right to life” were made by women. I found relative few men even commenting on the subject, and most that did were on the “choice” front. Also, at the Planned Parenthood clinic in my city, I’ve only ever seen women outside protesting in favor of “right to life”. I know it’s not a great metric, but a valid observation I think. On the same note, most of the “choice” comments seemed to be made by women as well, but there were more men tricking in comments on that side. What it seemed like was mostly women vs women on this subject.
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I just deleted my facebook and twitter apps (again) before reading this. I keep thinking I'll be out of the loop band-wise, but I don't care anymore. it's just too toxic.benjs said:
Just wanted to say, using social media as a gauge of public opinion is a very, very bad idea. The companies in charge of social media networks all use variations of the same premise in determining what social content makes it onto your screen, and they’re based on either sensationalizing, or reinforcing one’s own opinions through content. The goal is exclusively to keep you on it, meaning they want you riled up or seeing things you feel to be true - neither of which will align with the realities of the world through anything other than coincidence. Truth is never the objective.PJPOWER said:I searched around on different social media pages for this topic and almost all of the comments supporting “right to life” were made by women. I found relative few men even commenting on the subject, and most that did were on the “choice” front. Also, at the Planned Parenthood clinic in my city, I’ve only ever seen women outside protesting in favor of “right to life”. I know it’s not a great metric, but a valid observation I think. On the same note, most of the “choice” comments seemed to be made by women as well, but there were more men tricking in comments on that side. What it seemed like was mostly women vs women on this subject.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
I think I made it pretty clear that I was explaining the thought behind the statement.bootlegger10 said:
So will you support the legislation passed in the House to codify Roe v. Wade? Only about 30% of the House is female and apparently men aren't qualified to weigh in on this subject. Women vote in these representatives whether male or female. A male representative has to answer to his constituents which 50% are women. My assumption is that the male Republicans are voting in line for the most part with their constituency that elected them.mrussel1 said:
Once more, look at the lawmakers. Your social media search isn't exactly empirical or representative.PJPOWER said:I searched around on different social media pages for this topic and almost all of the comments supporting “right to life” were made by women. I found relative few men even commenting on the subject, and most that did were on the “choice” front. Also, at the Planned Parenthood clinic in my city, I’ve only ever seen women outside protesting in favor of “right to life”. I know it’s not a great metric, but a valid observation I think. On the same note, most of the “choice” comments seemed to be made by women as well, but there were more men tricking in comments on that side. What it seemed like was mostly women vs women on this subject.
Second, the HUGE disconnect in your question is that I support allowing a woman to decide what she does with her body, vs the gov't telling her what she can and cannot do. Surely you understand that I don't support forcing abortions. If the vote was, for example, "Do you believe an unwed mother should be made the carry or abort a baby" and I had to vote that way, then you'd be asking a legitimate question. Because both options would be forcing a woman into a specific decision. You aren't.0 -
I switched to twitter a year or two ago and thought it was better but it really isn't....HughFreakingDillon said:
I just deleted my facebook and twitter apps (again) before reading this. I keep thinking I'll be out of the loop band-wise, but I don't care anymore. it's just too toxic.benjs said:
Just wanted to say, using social media as a gauge of public opinion is a very, very bad idea. The companies in charge of social media networks all use variations of the same premise in determining what social content makes it onto your screen, and they’re based on either sensationalizing, or reinforcing one’s own opinions through content. The goal is exclusively to keep you on it, meaning they want you riled up or seeing things you feel to be true - neither of which will align with the realities of the world through anything other than coincidence. Truth is never the objective.PJPOWER said:I searched around on different social media pages for this topic and almost all of the comments supporting “right to life” were made by women. I found relative few men even commenting on the subject, and most that did were on the “choice” front. Also, at the Planned Parenthood clinic in my city, I’ve only ever seen women outside protesting in favor of “right to life”. I know it’s not a great metric, but a valid observation I think. On the same note, most of the “choice” comments seemed to be made by women as well, but there were more men tricking in comments on that side. What it seemed like was mostly women vs women on this subject.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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I wish there was a local version of it. I really only follow bands and local people for up to the minute news that pertains to me. But I just keep getting force-fed these fucking posts by people I don't follow/know or only because some celebrity is trending. I get it; that's how they retain members. But it's not for me anymore.Gern Blansten said:
I switched to twitter a year or two ago and thought it was better but it really isn't....HughFreakingDillon said:
I just deleted my facebook and twitter apps (again) before reading this. I keep thinking I'll be out of the loop band-wise, but I don't care anymore. it's just too toxic.benjs said:
Just wanted to say, using social media as a gauge of public opinion is a very, very bad idea. The companies in charge of social media networks all use variations of the same premise in determining what social content makes it onto your screen, and they’re based on either sensationalizing, or reinforcing one’s own opinions through content. The goal is exclusively to keep you on it, meaning they want you riled up or seeing things you feel to be true - neither of which will align with the realities of the world through anything other than coincidence. Truth is never the objective.PJPOWER said:I searched around on different social media pages for this topic and almost all of the comments supporting “right to life” were made by women. I found relative few men even commenting on the subject, and most that did were on the “choice” front. Also, at the Planned Parenthood clinic in my city, I’ve only ever seen women outside protesting in favor of “right to life”. I know it’s not a great metric, but a valid observation I think. On the same note, most of the “choice” comments seemed to be made by women as well, but there were more men tricking in comments on that side. What it seemed like was mostly women vs women on this subject.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
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I wish there was a local version of it. I really only follow bands and local people for up to the minute news that pertains to me. But I just keep getting force-fed these fucking posts by people I don't follow/know or only because some celebrity is trending. I get it; that's how they retain members. But it's not for me anymore.Gern Blansten said:
I switched to twitter a year or two ago and thought it was better but it really isn't....HughFreakingDillon said:
I just deleted my facebook and twitter apps (again) before reading this. I keep thinking I'll be out of the loop band-wise, but I don't care anymore. it's just too toxic.benjs said:
Just wanted to say, using social media as a gauge of public opinion is a very, very bad idea. The companies in charge of social media networks all use variations of the same premise in determining what social content makes it onto your screen, and they’re based on either sensationalizing, or reinforcing one’s own opinions through content. The goal is exclusively to keep you on it, meaning they want you riled up or seeing things you feel to be true - neither of which will align with the realities of the world through anything other than coincidence. Truth is never the objective.PJPOWER said:I searched around on different social media pages for this topic and almost all of the comments supporting “right to life” were made by women. I found relative few men even commenting on the subject, and most that did were on the “choice” front. Also, at the Planned Parenthood clinic in my city, I’ve only ever seen women outside protesting in favor of “right to life”. I know it’s not a great metric, but a valid observation I think. On the same note, most of the “choice” comments seemed to be made by women as well, but there were more men tricking in comments on that side. What it seemed like was mostly women vs women on this subject.
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I wonder if my old band's myspace is still up. lolYour boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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Anti-abortion Senate Democrat backs abortion rights billBy FARNOUSH AMIRI and MARC LEVY28 mins ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — Sen. Bob Casey of Pennsylvania, one of the last lawmakers on Capitol Hill calling himself a “pro-life Democrat,” said Tuesday he would support a bill to write abortion rights into federal law following the Supreme Court’s leaked draft decision that would overturn the landmark Roe v. Wade ruling.
Casey, serving his third term, is not just any Democrat in the abortion debate. His father, a former two-term governor of Pennsylvania who opposed abortion rights, signed legislation that spawned another landmark abortion case, Planned Parenthood v. Casey.
Now Sen. Casey is in the position of watching the Supreme Court potentially overturn Roe v. Wade two years before he faces reelection while his party’s activists mobilize against any such decision.
He is casting his new position as a reaction to what he characterizes as an unforeseen move by Republicans in Congress to try to effectively ban abortion nationwide.
Casey said he will support the Democrats' bill, if there is a final vote on it. And he said he has never voted for — and does not support — a complete ban on abortion.
“I think a lot of Americans are just beginning to understand the Republican position, which is, in many cases, not just a ban, but in a lot of states a ban without exception,” Casey said in an interview.
He told Politico in 2018 “that the description of pro-life Democrat is accurate:" for him.
But he told the AP on Tuesday that Republicans in Congress have moved from decades of saying they wanted states to have a say over abortion to pursuing legislation to ban it everywhere after six weeks — before many women even know they are pregnant.
“I think that’s a new and substantial development in their approach," he said.
A vote on legislation by Senate Democrats to preserve abortion rights nationwide will not come to the floor if Democrats can't come up with the votes necessary to bypass procedural hurdles. They are expected to fail on a Wednesday test vote.
Casey has won his Senate races campaigning as an anti-abortion Democrat, even as advocates accuse him of abandoning the cause through his more moderate positions.
“Because of his actions and words, I think Sen. Casey has abandoned legitimate use of the pro-life label,” said Michael Geer, president of the Pennsylvania Family Institute, which opposes abortion rights.
After the draft opinion emerged last week, Casey said he had “serious concerns about what overturning almost 50 years of legal precedent will mean for women in states passing near or total bans on abortion.”
As for the Senate, he said, "Congress should be working to reduce the number of abortions and unintended pregnancies and doing much more to support women and families.”
In the past, he has pushed for policies that he says are proven to reduce the number of abortions, such as boosting support for health care, contraception and programs that support women and children.
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Well OK, let's get creative!
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brianlux said:Well OK, let's get creative!Didn’t expect to be imagining pain in that area this morning, so thanks for that!0
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Actually doesn’t sound like a terrible idea, haha. Wouldn’t it be more similar if men were told they couldn’t have vasectomies, though? No woman is forced to have the medical procedure that I’m aware of. Would all men having vasectomies not be just another way of men controlling pregnancy on their own terms?brianlux said:Well OK, let's get creative!Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
PJPOWER said:
Actually doesn’t sound like a terrible idea, haha. Wouldn’t it be more similar if men were told they couldn’t have vasectomies, though? No woman is forced to have the medical procedure that I’m aware of. Would all men having vasectomies not be just another way of men controlling pregnancy on their own terms?brianlux said:Well OK, let's get creative!
shouldnt WE be to begin with at the very start of the potential for pregnancy?
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Outlaw dating?mickeyrat said:PJPOWER said:
Actually doesn’t sound like a terrible idea, haha. Wouldn’t it be more similar if men were told they couldn’t have vasectomies, though? No woman is forced to have the medical procedure that I’m aware of. Would all men having vasectomies not be just another way of men controlling pregnancy on their own terms?brianlux said:Well OK, let's get creative!
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Outlaw dating?mickeyrat said:PJPOWER said:
Actually doesn’t sound like a terrible idea, haha. Wouldn’t it be more similar if men were told they couldn’t have vasectomies, though? No woman is forced to have the medical procedure that I’m aware of. Would all men having vasectomies not be just another way of men controlling pregnancy on their own terms?brianlux said:Well OK, let's get creative!
shouldnt WE be to begin with at the very start of the potential for pregnancy?nah. old school. chasity belts for men._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Lol, ouch…it was difficult enough wearing jeans as a teenager!mickeyrat said:mrussel1 said:
Outlaw dating?mickeyrat said:PJPOWER said:
Actually doesn’t sound like a terrible idea, haha. Wouldn’t it be more similar if men were told they couldn’t have vasectomies, though? No woman is forced to have the medical procedure that I’m aware of. Would all men having vasectomies not be just another way of men controlling pregnancy on their own terms?brianlux said:Well OK, let's get creative!
shouldnt WE be to begin with at the very start of the potential for pregnancy?nah. old school. chasity belts for men.Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
PJPOWER said:
Actually doesn’t sound like a terrible idea, haha. Wouldn’t it be more similar if men were told they couldn’t have vasectomies, though? No woman is forced to have the medical procedure that I’m aware of. Would all men having vasectomies not be just another way of men controlling pregnancy on their own terms?brianlux said:Well OK, let's get creative!Well, of course the meme isn't actually saying vasectomies should be mandated. It's just implying that people who want to dictate what women should do with their own bodies should... well, the that line says it all!Another one I heard goes something like: Have you noticed that go can't get a tax deduction for fetuses because the government doesn't consider a fetus a person?Of course, then the right will want to make fetuses be persons. Why not, right? Corporations are persons. In fact, I'm pretty sure my cat is a person. I hope she lives to be voting age."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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