*** LA NIGHT 1 2022 SETLIST THREAD ***
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of the girl, down, faithfull, not for you, and present tense on an album tour with opener is pretty nice. only 4 Ten songs (you'd get 6-7 most evening with shows) and 1 vs. song is pretty interesting.
would be very cool if they dropped the guaranteed even flow, porch, and alive and rotated them along with RVM, Given to Fly, DTE, Corduroy, daughter, and betterman and that would strike a balance between the folks who want longer shows (when you know nothing is guaranteed) and the bands desire to play these 1 encore shows.
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SD set was a little scary, but this one renewed my faith! I am getting so pumped for SacPittsburgh 2013
Cincinnati 2014
Greenville 2016
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LA FORUM 5-6-22
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Just beautiful my frienddimitrispearljam said:
this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -0 -
If you find yourself speaking for EVERYONE, you're probably overstating things.BW285110 said:These are different things. A whole different concept. I'm not saying 2022 is terrible. I'm not telling you to stay home. I'm just saying there is no argument that the "tighter" (much shorter) setlist is better. And 2022 is not what anyone hoped for or really expected. In 2013, PJ seemed to reach their rightful place as one of the elite American bands. Playing an epic unique show every night that was nothing short of fantastic, and always better than you expected. So far, 2022 is not that. Hopefully as the tour progresses the shows will get a bit longer. When/if they start approaching 28 or so songs, this will no longer be an issue. The show last night was great, it was just too short. I think someone above hit the nail on the head. It's like the 6 to 8 song first encore is missing.LA Sports Arena11/23/2013PendulumReleaseCorduroyLightning BoltMind Your MannersWhy GoDissidentGetawayGot SomeGardenDo The EvolutionI Got IdSirensState Of Love And TrustThe Long RoadJeremyLeathermanEruptionSpin The Black CircleRearviewmirrorENCORE 1Yellow MoonFootstepsAll Or NoneCome BackI Believe In MiraclesGiven To FlyOncePorchENCORE 2Unthought KnownBlackAliveBaba O'RileyIndifference—————————————————————The Forum5/6/2022Of The GirlElderly Woman Behind The Counter In A Small TownSuperblood WolfmoonCorduroyDance Of The ClairvoyantsQuick EscapeFaithfullNot For YouBuckle UpEven FlowNever DestinationDownNothingmanPresent TenseWho Ever SaidPorchENCOREState Of Love And TrustWishlistDo The EvolutionBlackAliveYellow Ledbetter0 -
Speaking for everyone was not really my intention, but since you brought it up, yes, on behalf of everyone, 33 is more than 22.ClownofThorns said:
If you find yourself speaking for EVERYONE, you're probably overstating things.BW285110 said:These are different things. A whole different concept. I'm not saying 2022 is terrible. I'm not telling you to stay home. I'm just saying there is no argument that the "tighter" (much shorter) setlist is better. And 2022 is not what anyone hoped for or really expected. In 2013, PJ seemed to reach their rightful place as one of the elite American bands. Playing an epic unique show every night that was nothing short of fantastic, and always better than you expected. So far, 2022 is not that. Hopefully as the tour progresses the shows will get a bit longer. When/if they start approaching 28 or so songs, this will no longer be an issue. The show last night was great, it was just too short. I think someone above hit the nail on the head. It's like the 6 to 8 song first encore is missing.LA Sports Arena11/23/2013PendulumReleaseCorduroyLightning BoltMind Your MannersWhy GoDissidentGetawayGot SomeGardenDo The EvolutionI Got IdSirensState Of Love And TrustThe Long RoadJeremyLeathermanEruptionSpin The Black CircleRearviewmirrorENCORE 1Yellow MoonFootstepsAll Or NoneCome BackI Believe In MiraclesGiven To FlyOncePorchENCORE 2Unthought KnownBlackAliveBaba O'RileyIndifference—————————————————————The Forum5/6/2022Of The GirlElderly Woman Behind The Counter In A Small TownSuperblood WolfmoonCorduroyDance Of The ClairvoyantsQuick EscapeFaithfullNot For YouBuckle UpEven FlowNever DestinationDownNothingmanPresent TenseWho Ever SaidPorchENCOREState Of Love And TrustWishlistDo The EvolutionBlackAliveYellow Ledbetter0 -
I could be wrong, but the last time they had an opening band was around 2009/2010. And that was the only time with an opening band where they averaged 28 songs per show. All the other years prior with an opening act, they averaged anywhere between 24-26 songs on a given night.BW285110 said:
There have been openers for many years. The norm became for PJ to routinely pay the fine and play well past curfew.Red Mosqito said:I don’t think the days of longer sets are necessarily a thing of the past, I just think everyone needs to realize this tour isn’t an “Evening with PJ” format. When there’s no opening band, they can come on earlier and play a longer set with multiple encores. But when there’s an opener, there’s just not enough time for them to play 30+ song sets. It’s as simple as that.I think most shows will be 22-24 songs on average with maybe 2-3 stops on the tour getting a 26-27 song set.Then from 2012 to 2018 is where we saw the dramatic uptick to 30 songs on average in set list length, and those were the “Evening with PJ” years.0 -
I'm not sure how to say this more succinctly, but I am laughing out loud at this post.MickeyMouse said:Maybe it’s a supply chain issue? Do they order their songs from overseas?I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
How is six out of 22 songs nearly half the show? It's barely more than a quarter of the show in terms of number of songs, and probably less than that in terms of time because of the extended jams in older songs like "Even Flow," "Corduroy" and "Present Tense."Lerxst1992 said:I get they are proud of gig, and they should be, but nearly half the show dedicated to it (given the set list reputation they worked hard to establish) is going to be an adjustment for many fans. Maybe traveling cross country or internationally may not be as appealing.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
Gigaton has been out for two years now, which should be plenty of time to digest a good percentage of the lyrics or at least be able to sing along to the choruses by now.jimjam1982 said:The Gigaton songs seem to be DOA live on a proper tour based on the crowd reactions tonight. Wonder if SD crowd was like this. Will see if it changes tomorrow and in Phoenix
The weird part is they sound GREAT musically and the lyrics are the weak points. Not understanding or knowing any of the words doesn't help I think.
Outside of my msg and st. Louis shows glad I'm not too invested in the fall run.
Hopefully MSG gets the proper show treatment on 9/11.But I get what you’re saying completely. Eddie got too wordy and tried to fit in too much on certain Gigaton songs which makes it hard for any crowd to sing along to. Case in point, Seven O’Clock is an amazing song when I’m listening to the album, but it doesn’t translate well in a live setting if you ask me. I’ve heard it twice so far and each time I could feel all the momentum and excitement they had built up, just leave the crowd at that moment.That’s why I only really expect Who Ever Said, Never Destination, SBWM & Quick Escape to be the true set list mainstays on future tours.0 -
I have had a totally different experience at Ohana and in San Diego with respect to "Seven O'Clock." I thought it sounded great and really built to a powerful, emotional climax. People near me at both venues seemed to be into it. I was singing along with every word. (I do agree with you that Eddie went a little word-crazy on this album.)Red Mosqito said:
Gigaton has been out for two years now, which should be plenty of time to digest a good percentage of the lyrics or at least be able to sing along to the choruses by now.jimjam1982 said:The Gigaton songs seem to be DOA live on a proper tour based on the crowd reactions tonight. Wonder if SD crowd was like this. Will see if it changes tomorrow and in Phoenix
The weird part is they sound GREAT musically and the lyrics are the weak points. Not understanding or knowing any of the words doesn't help I think.
Outside of my msg and st. Louis shows glad I'm not too invested in the fall run.
Hopefully MSG gets the proper show treatment on 9/11.But I get what you’re saying completely. Eddie got too wordy and tried to fit in too much on certain Gigaton songs which makes it hard for any crowd to sing along to. Case in point, Seven O’Clock is an amazing song when I’m listening to the album, but it doesn’t translate well in a live setting if you ask me. I’ve heard it twice so far and each time I could feel all the momentum and excitement they had built up, just leave the crowd at that moment.That’s why I only really expect Who Ever Said, Never Destination, SBWM & Quick Escape to be the true set list mainstays on future tours.
I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
I'd like to see Take the Long Way mixed in a little more myself. I'm seeing them Monday night in Glendale hopefully it makes an appearance. I thought it sounded great at Ohana.Red Mosqito said:
Gigaton has been out for two years now, which should be plenty of time to digest a good percentage of the lyrics or at least be able to sing along to the choruses by now.jimjam1982 said:The Gigaton songs seem to be DOA live on a proper tour based on the crowd reactions tonight. Wonder if SD crowd was like this. Will see if it changes tomorrow and in Phoenix
The weird part is they sound GREAT musically and the lyrics are the weak points. Not understanding or knowing any of the words doesn't help I think.
Outside of my msg and st. Louis shows glad I'm not too invested in the fall run.
Hopefully MSG gets the proper show treatment on 9/11.But I get what you’re saying completely. Eddie got too wordy and tried to fit in too much on certain Gigaton songs which makes it hard for any crowd to sing along to. Case in point, Seven O’Clock is an amazing song when I’m listening to the album, but it doesn’t translate well in a live setting if you ask me. I’ve heard it twice so far and each time I could feel all the momentum and excitement they had built up, just leave the crowd at that moment.That’s why I only really expect Who Ever Said, Never Destination, SBWM & Quick Escape to be the true set list mainstays on future tours.0 -
I don’t know about you or anyone else, but what drives me to travel to see this band is their live performances, the revolving set list & never seeing the same show twice and meeting other like minded fans like myself in other cities/countries. It was never about how many songs or how long they played.aisleseats said:The band has built up an expectation for their shows over the years. That's what drives ppl to travel and go to so many shows. For us to be disappointed that that's suddenly changed doesn't mean we don't still love the band.I’ve always said, expectations are a dangerous thing because you’re only setting yourself up for disappointment if you go into any show expecting anything more than a good time.0 -
I deal with that crap Every Day at work, so I actually registered for this message board and paid to join Ten Club just so I can quote this and tell you I laughed so hard I thought I was gonna wet myself.MickeyMouse said:Maybe it’s a supply chain issue? Do they order their songs from overseas?0 -
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Agree to disagree.BW285110 said:
Speaking for everyone was not really my intention, but since you brought it up, yes, on behalf of everyone, 33 is more than 22.ClownofThorns said:
If you find yourself speaking for EVERYONE, you're probably overstating things.BW285110 said:These are different things. A whole different concept. I'm not saying 2022 is terrible. I'm not telling you to stay home. I'm just saying there is no argument that the "tighter" (much shorter) setlist is better. And 2022 is not what anyone hoped for or really expected. In 2013, PJ seemed to reach their rightful place as one of the elite American bands. Playing an epic unique show every night that was nothing short of fantastic, and always better than you expected. So far, 2022 is not that. Hopefully as the tour progresses the shows will get a bit longer. When/if they start approaching 28 or so songs, this will no longer be an issue. The show last night was great, it was just too short. I think someone above hit the nail on the head. It's like the 6 to 8 song first encore is missing.LA Sports Arena11/23/2013PendulumReleaseCorduroyLightning BoltMind Your MannersWhy GoDissidentGetawayGot SomeGardenDo The EvolutionI Got IdSirensState Of Love And TrustThe Long RoadJeremyLeathermanEruptionSpin The Black CircleRearviewmirrorENCORE 1Yellow MoonFootstepsAll Or NoneCome BackI Believe In MiraclesGiven To FlyOncePorchENCORE 2Unthought KnownBlackAliveBaba O'RileyIndifference—————————————————————The Forum5/6/2022Of The GirlElderly Woman Behind The Counter In A Small TownSuperblood WolfmoonCorduroyDance Of The ClairvoyantsQuick EscapeFaithfullNot For YouBuckle UpEven FlowNever DestinationDownNothingmanPresent TenseWho Ever SaidPorchENCOREState Of Love And TrustWishlistDo The EvolutionBlackAliveYellow Ledbetter0
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