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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    PJNB said:
    mace1229 said:
    PJNB said:
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oh my god. please, trump supporters, please try to claim again that this is trump "trolling" and "fooling" the left. 

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/07/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-china-russia/index.html
    I couldnt click the audio clip mentioned, but it looks like this was not meant to be a public statement. My first impression is he’s joking with friends/donors. Not trolling and fooling the left because it looks like a private conversation. I’m sure we all have said dumb things in jest to friends. My wife and I joke around all the time about where we can ditch the kids, like a movie theater with Spider-Man, and going on our own date because they wouldn’t even notice. I hope no one overheard us and thinks that our serious solution to a babysitter.
    That seems more plausible to me than him thinking it’s a real solution.
    Listening to the audio would give a better sense of it’s a joke or his serious plan. I just can’t fathom anyone, at all, thinking that would be a good foreign policy.
    Your first impression is, joke or not, why is this idiot saying this out loud should it not be? 

    Trump got by for 5 plus years with people defending that moron with the old oh he was just joking damage control. Trump throws so many ridiculous things out there and his supporters have the luxury of cherry picking which ones they like and do not like and using the he was just joking bro as an excuse for his incompetency.  
    You think it’s more plausible that he thinks it would actually work? I don’t believe there is a single adult on the planet that believes that plan would work, who doesn’t know they’d track where the planes came from and where they went, among countless other issues that would prevent it from being a success. 
    It looks like a private conversation that was secretly recorded. So if I have to pick between a joke made in private or that he actually believes the worst plan in the history of warfare that no other single adult would agree with would actually work, the first seems much more likely to me. 
    I 100% do think that. He thinks he is the smartest person in the room at all times. 

    Do you think one single person in this world other than him thought this idea would actually work? 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfLZOkn0chc
    Come on man, he was just being sarcastic like he said the next day. Can't you just sense the sarcasm in his speaking tone?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,275
    Poncier said:
    PJNB said:
    mace1229 said:
    PJNB said:
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oh my god. please, trump supporters, please try to claim again that this is trump "trolling" and "fooling" the left. 

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/07/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-china-russia/index.html
    I couldnt click the audio clip mentioned, but it looks like this was not meant to be a public statement. My first impression is he’s joking with friends/donors. Not trolling and fooling the left because it looks like a private conversation. I’m sure we all have said dumb things in jest to friends. My wife and I joke around all the time about where we can ditch the kids, like a movie theater with Spider-Man, and going on our own date because they wouldn’t even notice. I hope no one overheard us and thinks that our serious solution to a babysitter.
    That seems more plausible to me than him thinking it’s a real solution.
    Listening to the audio would give a better sense of it’s a joke or his serious plan. I just can’t fathom anyone, at all, thinking that would be a good foreign policy.
    Your first impression is, joke or not, why is this idiot saying this out loud should it not be? 

    Trump got by for 5 plus years with people defending that moron with the old oh he was just joking damage control. Trump throws so many ridiculous things out there and his supporters have the luxury of cherry picking which ones they like and do not like and using the he was just joking bro as an excuse for his incompetency.  
    You think it’s more plausible that he thinks it would actually work? I don’t believe there is a single adult on the planet that believes that plan would work, who doesn’t know they’d track where the planes came from and where they went, among countless other issues that would prevent it from being a success. 
    It looks like a private conversation that was secretly recorded. So if I have to pick between a joke made in private or that he actually believes the worst plan in the history of warfare that no other single adult would agree with would actually work, the first seems much more likely to me. 
    I 100% do think that. He thinks he is the smartest person in the room at all times. 

    Do you think one single person in this world other than him thought this idea would actually work? 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfLZOkn0chc
    Come on man, he was just being sarcastic like he said the next day. Can't you just sense the sarcasm in his speaking tone?
    Hear those cameras clicking away to capture the moments of stupidity for all eternity. And 8 million more voted for POOTWH the second time around. Deplorable.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    PJNB said:
    mace1229 said:
    PJNB said:
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oh my god. please, trump supporters, please try to claim again that this is trump "trolling" and "fooling" the left. 

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/07/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-china-russia/index.html
    I couldnt click the audio clip mentioned, but it looks like this was not meant to be a public statement. My first impression is he’s joking with friends/donors. Not trolling and fooling the left because it looks like a private conversation. I’m sure we all have said dumb things in jest to friends. My wife and I joke around all the time about where we can ditch the kids, like a movie theater with Spider-Man, and going on our own date because they wouldn’t even notice. I hope no one overheard us and thinks that our serious solution to a babysitter.
    That seems more plausible to me than him thinking it’s a real solution.
    Listening to the audio would give a better sense of it’s a joke or his serious plan. I just can’t fathom anyone, at all, thinking that would be a good foreign policy.
    Your first impression is, joke or not, why is this idiot saying this out loud should it not be? 

    Trump got by for 5 plus years with people defending that moron with the old oh he was just joking damage control. Trump throws so many ridiculous things out there and his supporters have the luxury of cherry picking which ones they like and do not like and using the he was just joking bro as an excuse for his incompetency.  
    You think it’s more plausible that he thinks it would actually work? I don’t believe there is a single adult on the planet that believes that plan would work, who doesn’t know they’d track where the planes came from and where they went, among countless other issues that would prevent it from being a success. 
    It looks like a private conversation that was secretly recorded. So if I have to pick between a joke made in private or that he actually believes the worst plan in the history of warfare that no other single adult would agree with would actually work, the first seems much more likely to me. 
    I 100% do think that. He thinks he is the smartest person in the room at all times. 

    Do you think one single person in this world other than him thought this idea would actually work? 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfLZOkn0chc
    Yeah, I don’t have an answer for that. If you don’t watch and just listen, it sounds like a scene from Blade.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    mace1229 said:
    PJNB said:
    mace1229 said:
    PJNB said:
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oh my god. please, trump supporters, please try to claim again that this is trump "trolling" and "fooling" the left. 

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/07/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-china-russia/index.html
    I couldnt click the audio clip mentioned, but it looks like this was not meant to be a public statement. My first impression is he’s joking with friends/donors. Not trolling and fooling the left because it looks like a private conversation. I’m sure we all have said dumb things in jest to friends. My wife and I joke around all the time about where we can ditch the kids, like a movie theater with Spider-Man, and going on our own date because they wouldn’t even notice. I hope no one overheard us and thinks that our serious solution to a babysitter.
    That seems more plausible to me than him thinking it’s a real solution.
    Listening to the audio would give a better sense of it’s a joke or his serious plan. I just can’t fathom anyone, at all, thinking that would be a good foreign policy.
    Your first impression is, joke or not, why is this idiot saying this out loud should it not be? 

    Trump got by for 5 plus years with people defending that moron with the old oh he was just joking damage control. Trump throws so many ridiculous things out there and his supporters have the luxury of cherry picking which ones they like and do not like and using the he was just joking bro as an excuse for his incompetency.  
    You think it’s more plausible that he thinks it would actually work? I don’t believe there is a single adult on the planet that believes that plan would work, who doesn’t know they’d track where the planes came from and where they went, among countless other issues that would prevent it from being a success. 
    It looks like a private conversation that was secretly recorded. So if I have to pick between a joke made in private or that he actually believes the worst plan in the history of warfare that no other single adult would agree with would actually work, the first seems much more likely to me. 
    I 100% do think that. He thinks he is the smartest person in the room at all times. 

    Do you think one single person in this world other than him thought this idea would actually work? 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfLZOkn0chc
    Yeah, I don’t have an answer for that. If you don’t watch and just listen, it sounds like a scene from Blade.
    He also suggested nuking a hurricane.  So he's full of these ridiculous ideas that no normal person, and certainly no other president, would think of and verbalize.  There are too many controls in the gov't to give in to his impulses, but they are not normal.  He'll say he was kidding, but he usually isn't. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,479

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,426
    PJNB said:
    mace1229 said:
    PJNB said:
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oh my god. please, trump supporters, please try to claim again that this is trump "trolling" and "fooling" the left. 

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/07/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-china-russia/index.html
    I couldnt click the audio clip mentioned, but it looks like this was not meant to be a public statement. My first impression is he’s joking with friends/donors. Not trolling and fooling the left because it looks like a private conversation. I’m sure we all have said dumb things in jest to friends. My wife and I joke around all the time about where we can ditch the kids, like a movie theater with Spider-Man, and going on our own date because they wouldn’t even notice. I hope no one overheard us and thinks that our serious solution to a babysitter.
    That seems more plausible to me than him thinking it’s a real solution.
    Listening to the audio would give a better sense of it’s a joke or his serious plan. I just can’t fathom anyone, at all, thinking that would be a good foreign policy.
    Your first impression is, joke or not, why is this idiot saying this out loud should it not be? 

    Trump got by for 5 plus years with people defending that moron with the old oh he was just joking damage control. Trump throws so many ridiculous things out there and his supporters have the luxury of cherry picking which ones they like and do not like and using the he was just joking bro as an excuse for his incompetency.  
    You think it’s more plausible that he thinks it would actually work? I don’t believe there is a single adult on the planet that believes that plan would work, who doesn’t know they’d track where the planes came from and where they went, among countless other issues that would prevent it from being a success. 
    It looks like a private conversation that was secretly recorded. So if I have to pick between a joke made in private or that he actually believes the worst plan in the history of warfare that no other single adult would agree with would actually work, the first seems much more likely to me. 
    I 100% do think that. He thinks he is the smartest person in the room at all times. 

    Do you think one single person in this world other than him thought this idea would actually work? 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfLZOkn0chc
    When he says the ignorant ridiculous things he isn't just trolling the left. He's trolling the media, the politicians, and every single one of his sycophantic followers who believe his bullshit.

    Whether he means to or not
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,488
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oh my god. please, trump supporters, please try to claim again that this is trump "trolling" and "fooling" the left. 

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/07/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-china-russia/index.html
    I think he's just riffing.. stream of consciousness.  The problem is that this is how he thinks.  It's disqualifying.  
    Perfectly said!

    haha
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,488
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oh my god. please, trump supporters, please try to claim again that this is trump "trolling" and "fooling" the left. 

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/07/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-china-russia/index.html
    I think he's just riffing.. stream of consciousness.  The problem is that this is how he thinks.  It's disqualifying.  
    well, yeah, that's all he's ever done. I don't think for a second he didn't come up with that injecting bleach thing more than half a second before he said it at the podium. 
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    edited March 2022
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oh my god. please, trump supporters, please try to claim again that this is trump "trolling" and "fooling" the left. 

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/07/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-china-russia/index.html
    I think he's just riffing.. stream of consciousness.  The problem is that this is how he thinks.  It's disqualifying.  
    well, yeah, that's all he's ever done. I don't think for a second he didn't come up with that injecting bleach thing more than half a second before he said it at the podium. 
    It's the beauty of being a conman. And then other conmen can easily get his ear and then have him regurgitate any nonsense they were able to impart to him.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oh my god. please, trump supporters, please try to claim again that this is trump "trolling" and "fooling" the left. 

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/07/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-china-russia/index.html
    I think he's just riffing.. stream of consciousness.  The problem is that this is how he thinks.  It's disqualifying.  
    well, yeah, that's all he's ever done. I don't think for a second he didn't come up with that injecting bleach thing more than half a second before he said it at the podium. 
    I agree.  He certainly doesn't do any planning. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,479
    US and UK banning russian oil.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,479
    Bentleyspop said:
    PJNB said:
    mace1229 said:
    PJNB said:
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oh my god. please, trump supporters, please try to claim again that this is trump "trolling" and "fooling" the left. 

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/07/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-china-russia/index.html
    I couldnt click the audio clip mentioned, but it looks like this was not meant to be a public statement. My first impression is he’s joking with friends/donors. Not trolling and fooling the left because it looks like a private conversation. I’m sure we all have said dumb things in jest to friends. My wife and I joke around all the time about where we can ditch the kids, like a movie theater with Spider-Man, and going on our own date because they wouldn’t even notice. I hope no one overheard us and thinks that our serious solution to a babysitter.
    That seems more plausible to me than him thinking it’s a real solution.
    Listening to the audio would give a better sense of it’s a joke or his serious plan. I just can’t fathom anyone, at all, thinking that would be a good foreign policy.
    Your first impression is, joke or not, why is this idiot saying this out loud should it not be? 

    Trump got by for 5 plus years with people defending that moron with the old oh he was just joking damage control. Trump throws so many ridiculous things out there and his supporters have the luxury of cherry picking which ones they like and do not like and using the he was just joking bro as an excuse for his incompetency.  
    You think it’s more plausible that he thinks it would actually work? I don’t believe there is a single adult on the planet that believes that plan would work, who doesn’t know they’d track where the planes came from and where they went, among countless other issues that would prevent it from being a success. 
    It looks like a private conversation that was secretly recorded. So if I have to pick between a joke made in private or that he actually believes the worst plan in the history of warfare that no other single adult would agree with would actually work, the first seems much more likely to me. 
    I 100% do think that. He thinks he is the smartest person in the room at all times. 

    Do you think one single person in this world other than him thought this idea would actually work? 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfLZOkn0chc
    When he says the ignorant ridiculous things he isn't just trolling the left. He's trolling the media, the politicians, and every single one of his sycophantic followers who believe his bullshit.

    Whether he means to or not
    If he means it, in what way is he then trolling?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    US and UK banning russian oil.
    The polling shows a strong majority of Americans support doing so, even if it means higher gas prices.  That is shocking to me.  We're so friggin' selfish normally, I can't even process this information.  


  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,472
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    US and UK banning russian oil.
    The polling shows a strong majority of Americans support doing so, even if it means higher gas prices.  That is shocking to me.  We're so friggin' selfish normally, I can't even process this information.  


    maybe images of a dead family in the street helped turn the tide....

    how many decades til russia is allowed to rejoin the world community?

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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    US and UK banning russian oil.
    The polling shows a strong majority of Americans support doing so, even if it means higher gas prices.  That is shocking to me.  We're so friggin' selfish normally, I can't even process this information.  


    did this polling tell them it will mean higher gas prices?
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,479
    mickeyrat said:

    how many decades til russia is allowed to rejoin the world community?

    A few months after the invasion has stopped. No one wasn't to loose out on russian money.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • static111
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    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    US and UK banning russian oil.
    The polling shows a strong majority of Americans support doing so, even if it means higher gas prices.  That is shocking to me.  We're so friggin' selfish normally, I can't even process this information.  


    I think it is two things.  No matter the political stripe everyone seems to agree that we need to send a message that unprovoked attacks on peaceful nation states is not ok.  The other thing is how this will affect american oil production.  I think many people see this as a chance to ramp american oil and gas production up.  I did read that we actually have more rigs going now than we did 4 years ago, so the argument that it is all joe's fault is moot. Whatever the reason it is good that we can all agree on something again.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    US and UK banning russian oil.
    The polling shows a strong majority of Americans support doing so, even if it means higher gas prices.  That is shocking to me.  We're so friggin' selfish normally, I can't even process this information.  


    did this polling tell them it will mean higher gas prices?
    Yes https://thehill.com/policy/international/597278-7-in-10-americans-polled-support-ban-on-russian-oil-even-if-higher
  • Bentleyspop
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    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    PJNB said:
    mace1229 said:
    PJNB said:
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oh my god. please, trump supporters, please try to claim again that this is trump "trolling" and "fooling" the left. 

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/07/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-china-russia/index.html
    I couldnt click the audio clip mentioned, but it looks like this was not meant to be a public statement. My first impression is he’s joking with friends/donors. Not trolling and fooling the left because it looks like a private conversation. I’m sure we all have said dumb things in jest to friends. My wife and I joke around all the time about where we can ditch the kids, like a movie theater with Spider-Man, and going on our own date because they wouldn’t even notice. I hope no one overheard us and thinks that our serious solution to a babysitter.
    That seems more plausible to me than him thinking it’s a real solution.
    Listening to the audio would give a better sense of it’s a joke or his serious plan. I just can’t fathom anyone, at all, thinking that would be a good foreign policy.
    Your first impression is, joke or not, why is this idiot saying this out loud should it not be? 

    Trump got by for 5 plus years with people defending that moron with the old oh he was just joking damage control. Trump throws so many ridiculous things out there and his supporters have the luxury of cherry picking which ones they like and do not like and using the he was just joking bro as an excuse for his incompetency.  
    You think it’s more plausible that he thinks it would actually work? I don’t believe there is a single adult on the planet that believes that plan would work, who doesn’t know they’d track where the planes came from and where they went, among countless other issues that would prevent it from being a success. 
    It looks like a private conversation that was secretly recorded. So if I have to pick between a joke made in private or that he actually believes the worst plan in the history of warfare that no other single adult would agree with would actually work, the first seems much more likely to me. 
    I 100% do think that. He thinks he is the smartest person in the room at all times. 

    Do you think one single person in this world other than him thought this idea would actually work? 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfLZOkn0chc
    When he says the ignorant ridiculous things he isn't just trolling the left. He's trolling the media, the politicians, and every single one of his sycophantic followers who believe his bullshit.

    Whether he means to or not
    If he means it, in what way is he then trolling?
    Yup
    Its the difference between his trolling on purpose and his trolling by accident.
    He's just a troll who likes to get people wound up no matter the consequence 
  • lastexitlondon
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    Narcissist.  Anything for attention  with the orange one


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