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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,474

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    I've always found these "rules of war" to be kind of odd. I mean, "sure, invade a country illegally, but do so according to these sets of rules". 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I've always found these "rules of war" to be kind of odd. I mean, "sure, invade a country illegally, but do so according to these sets of rules". 
    We're not savages
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I've always found these "rules of war" to be kind of odd. I mean, "sure, invade a country illegally, but do so according to these sets of rules". 
    Same here.  And now he's used a prohibited bomb, but none of the countless countries that are looking to take Russia down can touch him for fear of breaking rules.  It makes no sense to me (someone without a military background).

  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,410
    edited February 2022
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I've always found these "rules of war" to be kind of odd. I mean, "sure, invade a country illegally, but do so according to these sets of rules". 
    We're not savages
    Maybe...
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    edited March 2022
    tbergs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I've always found these "rules of war" to be kind of odd. I mean, "sure, invade a country illegally, but do so according to these sets of rules". 
    We're not savages
    Maybe...



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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    ‘Yes, He Would’: Fiona Hill on Putin and Nukes

    Putin is trying to take down the entire world order, the veteran Russia watcher said in an interview. But there are ways even ordinary Americans can fight back.


    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/02/28/world-war-iii-already-there-00012340
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I've always found these "rules of war" to be kind of odd. I mean, "sure, invade a country illegally, but do so according to these sets of rules". 
    The rules make sense for nukes, because we’re just trying to not destroy the entire world. But I agree for everything else, like the type of bullet. I’m sure a soldier getting killed really cares what time of bullet was used.
  • Ledbetterman10
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    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I've always found these "rules of war" to be kind of odd. I mean, "sure, invade a country illegally, but do so according to these sets of rules". 
    We're not savages
    “There are RULES to modern warfare. We’re not dumb beasts!”

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  • dignin
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    mickeyrat said:
    last night. couldnt readily isolate just the opening so ignore after. John shows some great video clips, in particukar of a Ukrainian woman confront a russian soldier...


    John Oliver is the best.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,118
    Meltdown99 said:
    Did anywhere here Dominick Haseks comments that Russian players contracts with nhl teams should be suspended?  A poster mentioned it earlier.  I shot the idea down myself.  What if said player has ties to Putin?  Would you support a move like that?  
    he was spot on with is critique of ovechkin. he is a putin supporter.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    This all speaks to a larger conversation when and if this shit dies down - that being a global-wide divesting of all WMDs.
    None of these super powers will ever trust the others to completely divest. we're in for the long haul with these weapons being available. 
    I don't know. I think there's merit to it being something that could happen. But, yeah, there definitely would be a rigid order & process to it. I just don't know how many times you play chicken in times like these waiting for the wrong dipshit with dementia to blink.

    I hope you're right, but I have my doubts.  For me, concern and fear goes back to the 1950's when we were being taught to do this:
    During 1950s Cold War US Children Taught to Duck and Cover Vintage Everyday

    And now it's 2022 and the threat still looms.
    The only thing I can conclude is that humanity is bat shit crazy.  How else do we explain this behavior?

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Did anywhere here Dominick Haseks comments that Russian players contracts with nhl teams should be suspended?  A poster mentioned it earlier.  I shot the idea down myself.  What if said player has ties to Putin?  Would you support a move like that?  
    he was spot on with is critique of ovechkin. he is a putin supporter.
    Yes, but didn't Hasek's comment talk about Russian players in general, not just Ovie who has been tied to the Kremlin for years?  I couldn't even begin to support suspending all Russian born players.  That's honestly the worst idea in the world.  Didn't we learn anything from WW2?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    This is bad. How can they stop this? 

    Russian tank column outside Kyiv 'is 40 miles long' – report

    Satellite images taken on Monday show a Russian military convoy north of Kyiv that stretches for about 40 miles (64 km) in an area north-west of Kyiv. It is substantially longer than the 17 miles (27 km) reported earlier in the day, according to the US company Maxar, Reuters reports.



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  • Spunkie
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    My 2022 Swimswear style... 


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  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Good to see Vlad social distancing.
    what is with this guy and his gigantic tables?
    The Russian version of the big truck syndrome?
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  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So the question may soon become.. What escape hatch will the West give Putin to withdraw and save face?   This has to be a topic of conversation between Ukraine, US, Britain, Germany, etc.  This cannot be an unconditional surrender against Putin.  Let him keep the two breakaways?  Let him keep one?  He isn't going to disarm, obviously.  Nor will his demand for Ukraine's military to overtake the political apparatus happen either. 

    May be too early to think about it, but I am.  The war isn't going well for them and the economic sanctions are hitting fast. I can't believe they are mostly cutoff from SWIFT.  I thought this would take much longer.  Sberbank is going to fail.  Market was closed today to protect it.  They are literally an international pariah. 

    I've heard others suggest the same thing, that the West needs to give Putin a way to save face.  I understand that argument and, considering his power and instability of mind, it's probably for the best.  But a better solution might be for him to be deposed or eliminated in some way by his own people.  He has brought total shame to his people and country.  Much of the world is united against him.  But of course, because of that, the question becomes, how desperate and unstable has he become.

    As a side note, I'm a little surprised how relative little traction this event has been gained here on AMT.  The war in Ukraine is the biggest current event to happen in the world in many years and yet only a handful of people post here while other, less pressing issues seem to get equal or greater attention.  Strange and baffling!

    how little traction? wtf are you talking about.? created on Jan 25. now on 40 pages with some 1200 plus comments.

    seems inordinate amount of traction.

    and the world did not stop turning.

    NK fired off another hey remember I'm a madman missle , other fucked up important shit is still going on.

    why havent we addressed Myanmar? or the other atrocities going on in the world.

    in 6 hours last week I woke up to 438 comments here. in SIX HOURS  too little traction.....

    I feel like I'm getting my ass chewed. 

    What, maybe 10 people posting here and most of the post from about half of those.

    Sometime I just feel like fuck this place.  Angry nasty posts and stupid memes.  Fuck it.

    mickey loves to chew a good ass. don't take it personally brian. 
    You guys are making me horny. Enough with with the dirty chat :)

    OH OH OH OH OH OH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO, BBOY. Love your levelheadedness
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,450
    tish said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So the question may soon become.. What escape hatch will the West give Putin to withdraw and save face?   This has to be a topic of conversation between Ukraine, US, Britain, Germany, etc.  This cannot be an unconditional surrender against Putin.  Let him keep the two breakaways?  Let him keep one?  He isn't going to disarm, obviously.  Nor will his demand for Ukraine's military to overtake the political apparatus happen either. 

    May be too early to think about it, but I am.  The war isn't going well for them and the economic sanctions are hitting fast. I can't believe they are mostly cutoff from SWIFT.  I thought this would take much longer.  Sberbank is going to fail.  Market was closed today to protect it.  They are literally an international pariah. 

    I've heard others suggest the same thing, that the West needs to give Putin a way to save face.  I understand that argument and, considering his power and instability of mind, it's probably for the best.  But a better solution might be for him to be deposed or eliminated in some way by his own people.  He has brought total shame to his people and country.  Much of the world is united against him.  But of course, because of that, the question becomes, how desperate and unstable has he become.

    As a side note, I'm a little surprised how relative little traction this event has been gained here on AMT.  The war in Ukraine is the biggest current event to happen in the world in many years and yet only a handful of people post here while other, less pressing issues seem to get equal or greater attention.  Strange and baffling!

    how little traction? wtf are you talking about.? created on Jan 25. now on 40 pages with some 1200 plus comments.

    seems inordinate amount of traction.

    and the world did not stop turning.

    NK fired off another hey remember I'm a madman missle , other fucked up important shit is still going on.

    why havent we addressed Myanmar? or the other atrocities going on in the world.

    in 6 hours last week I woke up to 438 comments here. in SIX HOURS  too little traction.....

    I feel like I'm getting my ass chewed. 

    What, maybe 10 people posting here and most of the post from about half of those.

    Sometime I just feel like fuck this place.  Angry nasty posts and stupid memes.  Fuck it.

    mickey loves to chew a good ass. don't take it personally brian. 
    You guys are making me horny. Enough with with the dirty chat :)

    OH OH OH OH OH OH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO, BBOY. Love your levelheadedness

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  • mickeyrat
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    this dude is a good follow on adbook or YouTube
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  • mickeyrat
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    broader idea that applies.. 

    question was asked several days ago.
    this addresses that question


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