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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,074
    edited March 2022
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,257
    I heard Steven Seagal put those signs up himself.
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,831
    2022 and the world is still completely jacked up.  The sad thing is this is probably just the beginning.
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,074
    mace1229 said:
    I heard Steven Seagal put those signs up himself.
    Under Siege 2 > Under Siege
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,834
    edited March 2022
    mace1229 said:
    I heard Steven Seagal put those signs up himself.
    Under Siege 2 > Under Siege
    Agreed.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,288
    From NYT email blast. If you go to the link, it'll include pictures of them lying dead in the street as well as pictures that humanize them. Horrible.

    The Perebyinis family

    The photograph has become a worldwide symbol of Russia’s brutality toward Ukrainian civilians.
    Four people lay near an intersection in Irpin, a Kyiv suburb, on Sunday. All were dead or soon would be, from the force of Russian mortars. There had been no Ukrainian forces where the mortars landed, suggesting Russia might have been targeting a civilian escape route near Kyiv.

    If so, it was part of Russia’s larger campaign to demoralize Ukraine by killing and wounding ordinary people, a strategy the Russian military has also used in Syria and Chechnya. Ukraine is now enduring these attacks every day, many of them undocumented.

    In Irpin, however, a team of Times journalists happened to be nearby when the mortar shells landed, and one of them, Lynsey Addario, took the photograph of the family. “I thought, you know, it’s disrespectful to take a photo, but I have to take a photo — this is a war crime,” Lynsey told CBS Evening News. “I think it’s really important that people around the world see these images.”

    In the days since the attack, my colleagues have reconstructed the lives of the four victims: Tetiana Perebyinis and her two children, 18-year-old Mykyta and 9-year-old Alisa, along with Anatoly Berezhnyi, a 26-year-old church volunteer trying to help them to safety.

    Tetiana Perebyinis, who was an accountant, and her husband, Serhiy, a computer programmer, had already escaped war in Ukraine once. Until 2014, they lived in eastern Ukraine, and they fled to Kyiv after Russia fomented a separatist uprising in the east.
    “They met in high school but became a couple years later, after meeting again on a dance floor at a Ukrainian nightclub,” my colleague Andrew Kramer reports from Kyiv, after speaking with Serhiy this week. “They owned a Chevrolet minivan and shared a country home with friends, and Ms. Perebyinis was a dedicated gardener and an avid skier.”

    A few weeks ago, before the situation in Kyiv deteriorated, Tetiana’s company rented rooms in Poland and encouraged its employees to use them. But Tetiana did not want to leave until she had a plan to evacuate her mother, who has Alzheimer’s disease. Finally, around 7 a.m. on Sunday, Tetiana and her children began their journey, while Serhiy was trapped in eastern Ukraine, tending to his ailing mother.

    By mid-morning on Sunday, Tetiana, Mykyta and Alisa had all been killed, alongside Berezhnyi, the church volunteer. Berezhnyi had moved his wife to western Ukraine but returned himself to Irpin to help others evacuate.

    “The whole world should know what is happening here,” Serhiy said. Read the rest of the family’s story.

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,611
    2022 and the world is still completely jacked up.  The sad thing is this is probably just the beginning.

    I had the ultra depressing thought that any of the hopes and dreams of a more peaceful world are completely shattered.  War is a part of the human condition and has been since the advent of agriculture.  But at least there have been some times of relative peace.  Now it feels like we are in for a state of perpetual war for the duration.  How does one remain hopeful and positive in a world wracked with war?  I really don't know and I really don't like being overcome with my current cynical and depressed outlook.  How does one not feel that way with the world such as it is today?
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,519
    brianlux said:
    2022 and the world is still completely jacked up.  The sad thing is this is probably just the beginning.

    I had the ultra depressing thought that any of the hopes and dreams of a more peaceful world are completely shattered.  War is a part of the human condition and has been since the advent of agriculture.  But at least there have been some times of relative peace.  Now it feels like we are in for a state of perpetual war for the duration.  How does one remain hopeful and positive in a world wracked with war?  I really don't know and I really don't like being overcome with my current cynical and depressed outlook.  How does one not feel that way with the world such as it is today?
    sometimes it makes me feel better to think of it in terms of us just being animals with a greater capacity to "defend our own territory" than other animals. 

    it really is fascinating to me how so many people who rise to power are ultimately the most sociopathic among us. I guess that's what it takes to get to that level in many instances? I don't know. or is the chicken and the egg thing? did some of these people seek out power, or did they get so consumed by it after getting a taste that it became insatiable?
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,839
    brianlux said:
    2022 and the world is still completely jacked up.  The sad thing is this is probably just the beginning.

    I had the ultra depressing thought that any of the hopes and dreams of a more peaceful world are completely shattered.  War is a part of the human condition and has been since the advent of agriculture.  But at least there have been some times of relative peace.  Now it feels like we are in for a state of perpetual war for the duration.  How does one remain hopeful and positive in a world wracked with war?  I really don't know and I really don't like being overcome with my current cynical and depressed outlook.  How does one not feel that way with the world such as it is today?
    sometimes it makes me feel better to think of it in terms of us just being animals with a greater capacity to "defend our own territory" than other animals. 

    it really is fascinating to me how so many people who rise to power are ultimately the most sociopathic among us. I guess that's what it takes to get to that level in many instances? I don't know. or is the chicken and the egg thing? did some of these people seek out power, or did they get so consumed by it after getting a taste that it became insatiable?
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,611
    brianlux said:
    2022 and the world is still completely jacked up.  The sad thing is this is probably just the beginning.

    I had the ultra depressing thought that any of the hopes and dreams of a more peaceful world are completely shattered.  War is a part of the human condition and has been since the advent of agriculture.  But at least there have been some times of relative peace.  Now it feels like we are in for a state of perpetual war for the duration.  How does one remain hopeful and positive in a world wracked with war?  I really don't know and I really don't like being overcome with my current cynical and depressed outlook.  How does one not feel that way with the world such as it is today?
    sometimes it makes me feel better to think of it in terms of us just being animals with a greater capacity to "defend our own territory" than other animals. 

    it really is fascinating to me how so many people who rise to power are ultimately the most sociopathic among us. I guess that's what it takes to get to that level in many instances? I don't know. or is the chicken and the egg thing? did some of these people seek out power, or did they get so consumed by it after getting a taste that it became insatiable?

    I would guess the latter.  Thus the oft cited quote from John Acton (Lord Acton), "Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,076
    edited March 2022
    Poncier said:
    mace1229 said:
    myoung321 said:
    Solid move to ban Russian oil…it seems anyhow. How I wish we had a president that could communicate though. Seems like forever.
    I worked in the Oil & Gas industry mainly in Pipeline and Logistics for 30 years... recently retired from one of the biggest companies...If I mentioned the name, you'd know it..... 

    I can tell you without hesitation this is a BS move. In 30 years I never heard of 1 drop of Russian oil going to any refineries in the US. 

    Dealt with oil from many countries.... NEVER RUSSIA


    Total BS... 

    It made oil prices go up, so it did something...

    I saw a chart that we import like 8% of all crude we take in.  THAT makes oil jump up a friggin dollar in price?

    Like @Halifax2TheMax said earlier, watch record profits from the oil companies post later.
    What’s also funny is after every spike in price it takes forever to go down. The reason I always hear from oil companies is that the supply is a few months behind, it takes time to refine and distribute, so when oil prices drop it takes a few months to see that effect at the pump. The funny thing is I never see it the other way around. It takes hours of oil prices going up to see it reflected at the pump. 
    May be a first, Tempo, Halifax and me all agree on something, record profits for oil companies will surely come.
    Oh yeah for sure. Its complete BS how fast prices can rise at the pump.
    I remember when Katrina hit, they said how it would affect gas/oil prices. The next morning driving to work all the gas stations on my drive had jumped like 60 cents from the day before. There's no way that they were selling gas that was affected by the storm.
    That is when I first noticed the scumbag tendencies of the oil companies.  We were paying over $5 a gallon in Louisiana the day after Katrina and got no relief for MONTHS because we had Rita roll in a few weeks later.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,730
    oil back down to 106 a barrel. 4 to 420 range per gal here.

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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,074
    So, chemical warfare birds you say
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,611
    edited March 2022

    I have post traumatic stress disorder (due to an accidental occurrence, not war) and had a bit of a PTSD related anxiety attack this morning when I thought I heard a gun fire (people target practice around here occasionally).  As I was putting myself back together, I got to thinking about how many soldiers and civilians will suffer with PTSD for the rest of their lives due to the war in Ukraine- literally millions of people.  I had previously thought about the loss of wildlife and domestic animal life due to the war, but it hadn't occurred to me that highly intelligent and sensitive animals, like the elephant above, will also suffer emotionally as a result of the war.
    The cumulative affect of this war in terms of loss of life, long-term suffering, destroyed infrastructure, damaged economies, prolonged hatred, and the affects to wildlife and environment is staggering.  It's almost too much to even think about sometimes. 

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,519
    fuck I hate seeing animals behind bars. My youngest keeps badgering me to let her get a turtle (or anything without hair that my wife isn't allergic to). I keep telling her: I'm not holding an animal prisoner for our entertainment. full stop. never. ever. I can't stand that we even have a fish in a 25 gallon tank. imagine living your entire life in one room of your house. ugh. I don't care that they have small brains. Fish can actually recognize their owner up to 3 months. so that's not nothing. 

    anyway, sorry for going off topic. I just hate the sight of that. 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,074
    fuck I hate seeing animals behind bars. My youngest keeps badgering me to let her get a turtle (or anything without hair that my wife isn't allergic to). I keep telling her: I'm not holding an animal prisoner for our entertainment. full stop. never. ever. I can't stand that we even have a fish in a 25 gallon tank. imagine living your entire life in one room of your house. ugh. I don't care that they have small brains. Fish can actually recognize their owner up to 3 months. so that's not nothing. 

    anyway, sorry for going off topic. I just hate the sight of that. 
    Can't you have the turtle walking around somewhat freely?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,519
    edited March 2022
    fuck I hate seeing animals behind bars. My youngest keeps badgering me to let her get a turtle (or anything without hair that my wife isn't allergic to). I keep telling her: I'm not holding an animal prisoner for our entertainment. full stop. never. ever. I can't stand that we even have a fish in a 25 gallon tank. imagine living your entire life in one room of your house. ugh. I don't care that they have small brains. Fish can actually recognize their owner up to 3 months. so that's not nothing. 

    anyway, sorry for going off topic. I just hate the sight of that. 
    Can't you have the turtle walking around somewhat freely?
    I'd probably Kevin Malone the poor thing. 

    it's also about it just not really belonging in a house. 


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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,730
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    well of course. that money rightly belongs in tax cuts for the rich. try and keep up.
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    Romney was a bit surprising on that list
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,611
    edited March 2022
    fuck I hate seeing animals behind bars. My youngest keeps badgering me to let her get a turtle (or anything without hair that my wife isn't allergic to). I keep telling her: I'm not holding an animal prisoner for our entertainment. full stop. never. ever. I can't stand that we even have a fish in a 25 gallon tank. imagine living your entire life in one room of your house. ugh. I don't care that they have small brains. Fish can actually recognize their owner up to 3 months. so that's not nothing. 

    anyway, sorry for going off topic. I just hate the sight of that. 
    That's why I love The Elephant Sanctuary.  They have created a very large and natural space. 
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    And despite supporting this organization, I not only no not mind, but I support their position that say not even member are allowed to visit the elephants. 

    The Elephant Sanctuary is a true sanctuary - a place of retirement for elephants. 

    • You can observe the elephants anytime you like from the comfort of your own home via our live-streaming EleCams.
    • The needs of the elephants have always been and will always be our top priority. 
    • The elephant habitats are not open to visitors. 
    • The Elephant Discovery Center in downtown Hohenwald, TN includes interactive multi-media exhibits, a theater, an outdoor classroom, and regularly scheduled programming about elephants, the purpose of Sanctuary, and conservation efforts in the wild.





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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,165
    So now chemical warfare is def in play! 
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    let the kid have the turtle! 
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  • i love the fact that Cobi bricks, a version of legos that has military kits since lego does not, is releasing a ghost of kyiv kit with 100% of proceeds going to help ukraine. Cobi is a company based in Poland and they came out right away to condemn Russia and help the people of Ukraine. Cobi does not even want to ship any of their product to Russia.

    The video below shows the head of the company talking about the ghost of kyiv model kit, and why they are supporting Ukraine vs russia.

    the video starts at 5:30 due to a technical issue. the guy speaks in broken english because it is his 2nd language, but this model kit looks pretty badass. i think i am going to buy one when they are available. he shows the actual model kit at 14:33.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6V7Z27u-Tw
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  • jpgoegeljpgoegel Posts: 412
    i love the fact that Cobi bricks, a version of legos that has military kits since lego does not, is releasing a ghost of kyiv kit with 100% of proceeds going to help ukraine. Cobi is a company based in Poland and they came out right away to condemn Russia and help the people of Ukraine. Cobi does not even want to ship any of their product to Russia.

    The video below shows the head of the company talking about the ghost of kyiv model kit, and why they are supporting Ukraine vs russia.

    the video starts at 5:30 due to a technical issue. the guy speaks in broken english because it is his 2nd language, but this model kit looks pretty badass. i think i am going to buy one when they are available. he shows the actual model kit at 14:33.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6V7Z27u-Tw
    awesome!   my youngest is a huge fan of their WWII collection.   I'll have to order her this, thanks!!
  • jpgoegel said:
    i love the fact that Cobi bricks, a version of legos that has military kits since lego does not, is releasing a ghost of kyiv kit with 100% of proceeds going to help ukraine. Cobi is a company based in Poland and they came out right away to condemn Russia and help the people of Ukraine. Cobi does not even want to ship any of their product to Russia.

    The video below shows the head of the company talking about the ghost of kyiv model kit, and why they are supporting Ukraine vs russia.

    the video starts at 5:30 due to a technical issue. the guy speaks in broken english because it is his 2nd language, but this model kit looks pretty badass. i think i am going to buy one when they are available. he shows the actual model kit at 14:33.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6V7Z27u-Tw
    awesome!   my youngest is a huge fan of their WWII collection.   I'll have to order her this, thanks!!
    i am also a big fan of their WWII collection. I have a few sets. i am planning to get this when it goes on sale, as well as the limited edition maus tank. the maus is for sale now, but it is kind of pricey. it is big so need to find a place to display it first. the ghost will not be limited edition so as many people that want them can get them. all proceeds going to charities to help ukranians directly.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,611
    jpgoegel said:
    i love the fact that Cobi bricks, a version of legos that has military kits since lego does not, is releasing a ghost of kyiv kit with 100% of proceeds going to help ukraine. Cobi is a company based in Poland and they came out right away to condemn Russia and help the people of Ukraine. Cobi does not even want to ship any of their product to Russia.

    The video below shows the head of the company talking about the ghost of kyiv model kit, and why they are supporting Ukraine vs russia.

    the video starts at 5:30 due to a technical issue. the guy speaks in broken english because it is his 2nd language, but this model kit looks pretty badass. i think i am going to buy one when they are available. he shows the actual model kit at 14:33.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6V7Z27u-Tw
    awesome!   my youngest is a huge fan of their WWII collection.   I'll have to order her this, thanks!!
    i am also a big fan of their WWII collection. I have a few sets. i am planning to get this when it goes on sale, as well as the limited edition maus tank. the maus is for sale now, but it is kind of pricey. it is big so need to find a place to display it first. the ghost will not be limited edition so as many people that want them can get them. all proceeds going to charities to help ukranians directly.

    I would buy some of these Ukrainian f-you Russian Ship stamps to support Ukraine if I knew where to buy them:
    Ukraine reveals Russian warship go fuck yourself postage stamp   Ukraine  The Guardian

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  • jpgoegeljpgoegel Posts: 412
    edited March 2022
    jpgoegel said:
    i love the fact that Cobi bricks, a version of legos that has military kits since lego does not, is releasing a ghost of kyiv kit with 100% of proceeds going to help ukraine. Cobi is a company based in Poland and they came out right away to condemn Russia and help the people of Ukraine. Cobi does not even want to ship any of their product to Russia.

    The video below shows the head of the company talking about the ghost of kyiv model kit, and why they are supporting Ukraine vs russia.

    the video starts at 5:30 due to a technical issue. the guy speaks in broken english because it is his 2nd language, but this model kit looks pretty badass. i think i am going to buy one when they are available. he shows the actual model kit at 14:33.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6V7Z27u-Tw
    awesome!   my youngest is a huge fan of their WWII collection.   I'll have to order her this, thanks!!
    i am also a big fan of their WWII collection. I have a few sets. i am planning to get this when it goes on sale, as well as the limited edition maus tank. the maus is for sale now, but it is kind of pricey. it is big so need to find a place to display it first. the ghost will not be limited edition so as many people that want them can get them. all proceeds going to charities to help ukranians directly.
    that's cool, i had no idea anyone else liked this stuff.   my youngest has built the USS Enterprise, the B-17 and the ME-109.  the latter two because of her liking of the book A Higher Call (about a german pilot that instead of shooting down a severely damaged B17, escorted  it safely to the Atlantic Ocean so it could possibly make it home).
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