2022 North American rumour thread take 2

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  • estarr31
    estarr31 Posts: 628
    pjhawks said:
    while yes March is still early 2022 I don't think any reasonable person thought it would be into March before an announcement.  
    Agreed and that's why it's not the band just being lazy with an announcement. They sent out the update in early November right before Omicron hit and somewhat upended things for two months. Thankfully that has subsided but it had to be a factor with the insurance coverage and commitments needed. They likely had a plan, were thrown a curveball again and had to reassess. The tour is happening in 2022 they just have to figure out when. 
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  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    estarr31 said:
    pjhawks said:
    while yes March is still early 2022 I don't think any reasonable person thought it would be into March before an announcement.  
    Agreed and that's why it's not the band just being lazy with an announcement. They sent out the update in early November right before Omicron hit and somewhat upended things for two months. Thankfully that has subsided but it had to be a factor with the insurance coverage and commitments needed. They likely had a plan, were thrown a curveball again and had to reassess. The tour is happening in 2022 they just have to figure out when. 

    Maybe they should tell their fans that.
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  • vedpunk
    vedpunk Posts: 960
    edited February 2022
    On a positive note, tickets are going to be easy to get if they wait any longer for a May tour.  They're going to have a hard time filling arenas so maybe they'll have to scale down to playing small sheds / larger theaters.  (Not much longer BTW)
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,853
    estarr31 said:
    pjhawks said:
    while yes March is still early 2022 I don't think any reasonable person thought it would be into March before an announcement.  
    Agreed and that's why it's not the band just being lazy with an announcement. They sent out the update in early November right before Omicron hit and somewhat upended things for two months. Thankfully that has subsided but it had to be a factor with the insurance coverage and commitments needed. They likely had a plan, were thrown a curveball again and had to reassess. The tour is happening in 2022 they just have to figure out when. 
    The omnicron excuse is pretty weak considering Eddie just toured....I have tickets to Jack White in April...other bands touring in April/May/June/July/Aug/etc.... heck my brother just bought tickets to see Duran Duran at the end of August.  And he just had to pay for them...not 2 years ago.  It's time to shit or get off the pot.  
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,601
    1) The early 2022 language exists ONLY because Ed wanted to squeeze in the Earthlings tour and 10c needed to say something about the tickets that had already been sold before selling new ones.

    2) Ed seemed to think weeks ago that spring shows had already been announced. 

    3) The delay is almost certainly due to new shows being slotted in alongside the reschedules. New shows means new tickets, and that means new dollars. Money is what matters to the business side of the band. 

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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    vedpunk said:
    On a positive note, tickets are going to be easy to get if they wait any longer for a May tour.  They're going to have a hard time filling arenas so maybe they'll have to scale down to playing small sheds / larger theaters.  (Not much longer BTW)
    The lotto for some of these cities is going to be insane. Reschedules will likely not have lottos(hope I am wrong) and the new shows sprinkled in will all be fighting with each other. 
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    They just need to announce the dates already. Rip the band aid off. I'm all for being safe & following protocols, but this has been dragging for a long time.
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  • 1STmammal2wearPants
    1STmammal2wearPants Worcester, MA Posts: 2,988
    edited February 2022
    mfc2006 said:
    They just need to announce the dates already. Rip the band aid off. I'm all for being safe & following protocols, but this has been dragging for a long time.
    This - or at least be transparent about where they are in the process/what the hold up is
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,601
    estarr31 said:
    pjhawks said:
    while yes March is still early 2022 I don't think any reasonable person thought it would be into March before an announcement.  
    Agreed and that's why it's not the band just being lazy with an announcement. They sent out the update in early November right before Omicron hit and somewhat upended things for two months. Thankfully that has subsided but it had to be a factor with the insurance coverage and commitments needed. They likely had a plan, were thrown a curveball again and had to reassess. The tour is happening in 2022 they just have to figure out when. 
    The omnicron excuse is pretty weak considering Eddie just toured....I have tickets to Jack White in April...other bands touring in April/May/June/July/Aug/etc.... heck my brother just bought tickets to see Duran Duran at the end of August.  And he just had to pay for them...not 2 years ago.  It's time to shit or get off the pot.  
    Agreed. Ed's tour really blows up any Covid-related excuse for this. 
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  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,554
    mfc2006 said:
    They just need to announce the dates already. Rip the band aid off. I'm all for being safe & following protocols, but this has been dragging for a long time.
    This - or at least be transparent about where they are in the process/what the hold up is
    Exactly.  If its new cities/venues they could simply put out an announcement along the lines of  "Please excuse the announcement delay of the North American tour as we are working on securing additional shows in new cities."
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Guys we are a week or two away from knowing by default. We should all know May is happening. We all want better communication and no one likes waiting. Hopefully by Friday the hype train has begun!
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,601
    PJNB said:
    Guys we are a week or two away from knowing by default. We should all know May is happening. We all want better communication and no one likes waiting. Hopefully by Friday the hype train has begun!
    My man your continued positivity is an asset to the community and I commend you for it!
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,853
    The only reason I haven't request for a refund for St Louis or Nashville yet is because I want to see what dates they get rescheduled for....the one with least vacation days I keep.  The other now has to go I think. Sucks.  
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  • estarr31
    estarr31 Posts: 628
    mpedone said:
    estarr31 said:
    pjhawks said:
    while yes March is still early 2022 I don't think any reasonable person thought it would be into March before an announcement.  
    Agreed and that's why it's not the band just being lazy with an announcement. They sent out the update in early November right before Omicron hit and somewhat upended things for two months. Thankfully that has subsided but it had to be a factor with the insurance coverage and commitments needed. They likely had a plan, were thrown a curveball again and had to reassess. The tour is happening in 2022 they just have to figure out when. 

    Maybe they should tell their fans that.
    They did. 
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    edited February 2022
    JimmyV said:
    PJNB said:
    Guys we are a week or two away from knowing by default. We should all know May is happening. We all want better communication and no one likes waiting. Hopefully by Friday the hype train has begun!
    My man your continued positivity is an asset to the community and I commend you for it!
    I am not defending anything the band has done in the last two years with announcements and communication. It is so frustrating as a fan. Then again I do not have to plan out 30 shows or so during a pandemic with Omicron raging. 
  • estarr31
    estarr31 Posts: 628
    JimmyV said:
    estarr31 said:
    pjhawks said:
    while yes March is still early 2022 I don't think any reasonable person thought it would be into March before an announcement.  
    Agreed and that's why it's not the band just being lazy with an announcement. They sent out the update in early November right before Omicron hit and somewhat upended things for two months. Thankfully that has subsided but it had to be a factor with the insurance coverage and commitments needed. They likely had a plan, were thrown a curveball again and had to reassess. The tour is happening in 2022 they just have to figure out when. 
    The omnicron excuse is pretty weak considering Eddie just toured....I have tickets to Jack White in April...other bands touring in April/May/June/July/Aug/etc.... heck my brother just bought tickets to see Duran Duran at the end of August.  And he just had to pay for them...not 2 years ago.  It's time to shit or get off the pot.  
    Agreed. Ed's tour really blows up any Covid-related excuse for this. 
    I don't really think so. Ed's tour went public around the same time as the PJ-tour update. Tickets went on sale first week of Dec I think?
    It was also a much smaller tour with easier to manage conditions (smaller crew and city conflicts). 
    The timing of a release could have been delayed a few weeks to see how things played out, just to make sure. 

    Also, plenty of bands toured in 2021. PJ even played a bit. So it's not the same. 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,853
    PJNB said:
    JimmyV said:
    PJNB said:
    Guys we are a week or two away from knowing by default. We should all know May is happening. We all want better communication and no one likes waiting. Hopefully by Friday the hype train has begun!
    My man your continued positivity is an asset to the community and I commend you for it!
    I am not defending anything the band has done in the last two years with announcements and communication. It is so frustrating as a fan. Then again I do not have to plan out 30 shows or so during a pandemic with Omicron raging. 
    But then again....a lot of bands have done just that.  
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  • tdawe
    tdawe Posts: 2,091
    pjhawks said:
    while yes March is still early 2022 I don't think any reasonable person thought it would be into March before an announcement.  
    Both the 2020 US dates and the EV Earthling tour dates were announced about two months in advance. 
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  • chitownp76
    chitownp76 Posts: 1,473
    Anyone put any thought to why TM changed the order of events for PJ? OKC and San Diego dont even come up anymore. Im only seeing six US shows
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,601
    tdawe said:
    pjhawks said:
    while yes March is still early 2022 I don't think any reasonable person thought it would be into March before an announcement.  
    Both the 2020 US dates and the EV Earthling tour dates were announced about two months in advance. 
    And both were new at the time. Neither involved shows that people had paid for two years prior. 
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