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mrussel1 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Cropduster-80 said:

mrussel1 said:

Zod said:

It is a bit interesting that they were able to press a significant number of vinyl, but the legitimate packaging was delayed?   Crazy the things are backlogged right now

See I call bs. It's a gimmick. Everyone knows that pressings are delayed,  but I have not heard that companies like Stoughton are struggling to print. They are still advertising for new business on their website 

I think it’s a quantity issue.  Getting a small run is probably way more doable.  I have no idea what the print run of the regular LP is but I suspect it’s very large.  Printing issues or pressing issues or a combination of both.  

Well for the past 25 years it has been 10,000.  But Adele pressed 500,000 so… 
It is a new era of vinyl…. I see so many “kids” in the record stores around here.  Nostalgic to see them looking at all the pressings. Overheard a couple high school kids marvelling at Fleetwood Mac, Blue Oyster Cult, Blue Rodeo and RHCP records yesterday, talking about the bands and how good they thought albums were. 

Brought a real smile to my face…. Independent record stores are the cool places to be once again. 

I agree.  I definitely notice how young the crowd is that's browsing the vinyl bin. Kids are discovering our music again and loving it.  

Nostalgia, collectible, anything vintage, owning a physical recording all  plays on everything people value these days 

doesnt hurt that the music is also great.  

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Lol. Come on now. It is not about problems with printing the covers. 

For god sales people. You are part of the Jamily. Act like it. 

You lost me 

JBob87 said:

Jacket production actually is the most common bottleneck in vinyl production right now

At least in terms of Stoughton tip on jackets...no idea if standard printed jackets like I assume would be used for the EV record are also impacted

Yeah I was just coming here to say that I saw Chad Kassem said Stoughton is behind.  So I stand corrected.  

Zod said:

Cropduster-80 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Cropduster-80 said:

mrussel1 said:

Zod said:

It is a bit interesting that they were able to press a significant number of vinyl, but the legitimate packaging was delayed?   Crazy the things are backlogged right now

See I call bs. It's a gimmick. Everyone knows that pressings are delayed,  but I have not heard that companies like Stoughton are struggling to print. They are still advertising for new business on their website 

I think it’s a quantity issue.  Getting a small run is probably way more doable.  I have no idea what the print run of the regular LP is but I suspect it’s very large.  Printing issues or pressing issues or a combination of both.  

Well for the past 25 years it has been 10,000.  But Adele pressed 500,000 so… 
It is a new era of vinyl…. I see so many “kids” in the record stores around here.  Nostalgic to see them looking at all the pressings. Overheard a couple high school kids marvelling at Fleetwood Mac, Blue Oyster Cult, Blue Rodeo and RHCP records yesterday, talking about the bands and how good they thought albums were. 

Brought a real smile to my face…. Independent record stores are the cool places to be once again. 

Wouldn’t surprise me if at some point vinyl sales surpass physical CD sales as a general rule.  I honestly don’t know anyone who still buys physical CD’s anymore  but a lot who buy vinyl 

I own 1 CD player and it came with the car 

I don't really see the function of CD's anymore.  I can replicate the audio quality of CD with my flac collection.   I can listen to those in really good quality in my truck, on my phone, and basically any time I'm not home.  If I'm at home then I prefer to spin vinyl.

The Vinyl for home, digital for the road is such a sweet setup, but I feel like CD's don't really have a home in there anymore.   I still buy PJ/EV cd's for collecting purposes, but I don't often spin one.

I have thought about trying to to find a narrow width cd player for my office stereo so I can spin cd's while I work.. but I never do seem to get around to that.

I ripped all of mine years ago and stored them. I don't have a proper CD player.    There's no use for them. 

JeBurkhardt said:

Zod said:

Cropduster-80 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Cropduster-80 said:

mrussel1 said:

Zod said:

It is a bit interesting that they were able to press a significant number of vinyl, but the legitimate packaging was delayed?   Crazy the things are backlogged right now

See I call bs. It's a gimmick. Everyone knows that pressings are delayed,  but I have not heard that companies like Stoughton are struggling to print. They are still advertising for new business on their website 

I think it’s a quantity issue.  Getting a small run is probably way more doable.  I have no idea what the print run of the regular LP is but I suspect it’s very large.  Printing issues or pressing issues or a combination of both.  

Well for the past 25 years it has been 10,000.  But Adele pressed 500,000 so… 
It is a new era of vinyl…. I see so many “kids” in the record stores around here.  Nostalgic to see them looking at all the pressings. Overheard a couple high school kids marvelling at Fleetwood Mac, Blue Oyster Cult, Blue Rodeo and RHCP records yesterday, talking about the bands and how good they thought albums were. 

Brought a real smile to my face…. Independent record stores are the cool places to be once again. 

Wouldn’t surprise me if at some point vinyl sales surpass physical CD sales as a general rule.  I honestly don’t know anyone who still buys physical CD’s anymore  but a lot who buy vinyl 

I own 1 CD player and it came with the car 

I don't really see the function of CD's anymore.  I can replicate the audio quality of CD with my flac collection.   I can listen to those in really good quality in my truck, on my phone, and basically any time I'm not home.  If I'm at home then I prefer to spin vinyl.

The Vinyl for home, digital for the road is such a sweet setup, but I feel like CD's don't really have a home in there anymore.   I still buy PJ/EV cd's for collecting purposes, but I don't often spin one.

I have thought about trying to to find a narrow width cd player for my office stereo so I can spin cd's while I work.. but I never do seem to get around to that.

I still listen to CDs at work. We can’t get a cell signal inside our building, so I can’t stream. I just put a CD in my PC and listen to it on desk speakers. 

My 18 year old has a used Jeep with a CD player for his first car.  He has all my CDs and gets a lot of use out of them. 

Cropduster-80 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Cropduster-80 said:

mrussel1 said:

Zod said:

It is a bit interesting that they were able to press a significant number of vinyl, but the legitimate packaging was delayed?   Crazy the things are backlogged right now

See I call bs. It's a gimmick. Everyone knows that pressings are delayed,  but I have not heard that companies like Stoughton are struggling to print. They are still advertising for new business on their website 

I think it’s a quantity issue.  Getting a small run is probably way more doable.  I have no idea what the print run of the regular LP is but I suspect it’s very large.  Printing issues or pressing issues or a combination of both.  

Well for the past 25 years it has been 10,000.  But Adele pressed 500,000 so… 
It is a new era of vinyl…. I see so many “kids” in the record stores around here.  Nostalgic to see them looking at all the pressings. Overheard a couple high school kids marvelling at Fleetwood Mac, Blue Oyster Cult, Blue Rodeo and RHCP records yesterday, talking about the bands and how good they thought albums were. 

Brought a real smile to my face…. Independent record stores are the cool places to be once again. 

Wouldn’t surprise me if at some point vinyl sales surpass physical CD sales as a general rule.  I honestly don’t know anyone who still buys physical CD’s anymore  but a lot who buy vinyl 

I own 1 CD player and it came with the car 

A close friend of mine works in music distribution for a major retailer, does ordering of supply and such, so sees all of the sales numbers/reports of the different releases. I believe for at least a few years now (maybe more), vinyl sales had already surpassed CD sales each year.
Another small perk is getting a heads up on release info of upcoming albums before they're publicly announced.

I work in manufacturing and the delays are very real. We have taken on so many additional suppliers just to try to meet demands & forecasts. It’s been a shitshow for the last 18 months or so. The idea that a manufacturer had enough for a small batch LP run makes complete sense to me.

artforbw said:

Cropduster-80 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Cropduster-80 said:

mrussel1 said:

Zod said:

It is a bit interesting that they were able to press a significant number of vinyl, but the legitimate packaging was delayed?   Crazy the things are backlogged right now

See I call bs. It's a gimmick. Everyone knows that pressings are delayed,  but I have not heard that companies like Stoughton are struggling to print. They are still advertising for new business on their website 

I think it’s a quantity issue.  Getting a small run is probably way more doable.  I have no idea what the print run of the regular LP is but I suspect it’s very large.  Printing issues or pressing issues or a combination of both.  

Well for the past 25 years it has been 10,000.  But Adele pressed 500,000 so… 
It is a new era of vinyl…. I see so many “kids” in the record stores around here.  Nostalgic to see them looking at all the pressings. Overheard a couple high school kids marvelling at Fleetwood Mac, Blue Oyster Cult, Blue Rodeo and RHCP records yesterday, talking about the bands and how good they thought albums were. 

Brought a real smile to my face…. Independent record stores are the cool places to be once again. 

Wouldn’t surprise me if at some point vinyl sales surpass physical CD sales as a general rule.  I honestly don’t know anyone who still buys physical CD’s anymore  but a lot who buy vinyl 

I own 1 CD player and it came with the car 

A close friend of mine works in music distribution for a major retailer, does ordering of supply and such, so sees all of the sales numbers/reports of the different releases. I believe for at least a few years now (maybe more), vinyl sales had already surpassed CD sales each year.
Another small perk is getting a heads up on release info of upcoming albums before they're publicly announced.

Looks like since 2020 according to this article:
https://www.thelantern.com/2021/02/breaking-records-vinyl-sales-pass-cd-sales-for-the-first-time-since-1980s/

Cropduster-80 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Cropduster-80 said:

mrussel1 said:

Zod said:

It is a bit interesting that they were able to press a significant number of vinyl, but the legitimate packaging was delayed?   Crazy the things are backlogged right now

See I call bs. It's a gimmick. Everyone knows that pressings are delayed,  but I have not heard that companies like Stoughton are struggling to print. They are still advertising for new business on their website 

I think it’s a quantity issue.  Getting a small run is probably way more doable.  I have no idea what the print run of the regular LP is but I suspect it’s very large.  Printing issues or pressing issues or a combination of both.  

Well for the past 25 years it has been 10,000.  But Adele pressed 500,000 so… 
It is a new era of vinyl…. I see so many “kids” in the record stores around here.  Nostalgic to see them looking at all the pressings. Overheard a couple high school kids marvelling at Fleetwood Mac, Blue Oyster Cult, Blue Rodeo and RHCP records yesterday, talking about the bands and how good they thought albums were. 

Brought a real smile to my face…. Independent record stores are the cool places to be once again. 

Wouldn’t surprise me if at some point vinyl sales surpass physical CD sales as a general rule.  I honestly don’t know anyone who still buys physical CD’s anymore  but a lot who buy vinyl 

I own 1 CD player and it came with the car 

They may surpass them in volume made, sure.  Depends on the band.  Grateful Dead Daves picks sells like 10k copies of each release on CD  four times a year and a few months after they’re released they go for double $. Check out Dead releases if you dare see how expensive things can get for CD’s.   $1500 for 30 trips, $1000 easy for Fillmore west 69, $1000+ Europe 72.  Sacd’s and hdcd’s aren’t a convo PJ are included in unfortunately, but audiophiles search for certain cds like they do for original vinyl pressings or mofi re issues.

mrussel1 said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Cropduster-80 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Cropduster-80 said:

mrussel1 said:

Zod said:

It is a bit interesting that they were able to press a significant number of vinyl, but the legitimate packaging was delayed?   Crazy the things are backlogged right now

See I call bs. It's a gimmick. Everyone knows that pressings are delayed,  but I have not heard that companies like Stoughton are struggling to print. They are still advertising for new business on their website 

I think it’s a quantity issue.  Getting a small run is probably way more doable.  I have no idea what the print run of the regular LP is but I suspect it’s very large.  Printing issues or pressing issues or a combination of both.  

Well for the past 25 years it has been 10,000.  But Adele pressed 500,000 so… 
It is a new era of vinyl…. I see so many “kids” in the record stores around here.  Nostalgic to see them looking at all the pressings. Overheard a couple high school kids marvelling at Fleetwood Mac, Blue Oyster Cult, Blue Rodeo and RHCP records yesterday, talking about the bands and how good they thought albums were. 

Brought a real smile to my face…. Independent record stores are the cool places to be once again. 

Wouldn’t surprise me if at some point vinyl sales surpass physical CD sales as a general rule.  I honestly don’t know anyone who still buys physical CD’s anymore  but a lot who buy vinyl 

I own 1 CD player and it came with the car 

They may surpass them in volume made, sure.  Depends on the band.  Grateful Dead Daves picks sells like 10k copies of each release on CD  four times a year and a few months after they’re released they go for double $. Check out Dead releases if you dare see how expensive things can get for CD’s.   $1500 for 30 trips, $1000 easy for Fillmore west 69, $1000+ Europe 72.  Sacd’s and hdcd’s aren’t a convo PJ are included in unfortunately, but audiophiles search for certain cds like they do for original vinyl pressings or mofi re issues.

Personally the Dave’s picks and mofi vinyl are the releases I most look forward to every few months, and the subscription is cool as can be.  CD’s are still in the game. (check out the doors gold discs for example too, they’re amazing)

Are you saying these don’t end up ripped and in the trader community within a week?  

No, not saying that at all. Of course they are.  All forms are eventually ripped.”, that’s why they’re sold in multiple formats.  Just saying that cd’s aren’t close to dead- there’s a huge fan base that still loves the physical media.  I brought up the dead because once or twice a year they release a box set (in cd format) with a companion vinyl box and streaming formats, but the cd set is the coveted format and eventually sells out every time with a pressing of around 12k

edit- also as far as the dead go, there’s really no shows newly released that aren’t already regularly traded.  These box sets just tend to be soundboard multitrack releases vs what’s been passed around for years among tapers and available on archive.org