The Joe Rogan Thread

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,511
    the band has personal causes they believe in and they have the right to pick and choose their fights. I don't expect them to pick up every torch that is lit just because the fan base deems it righteous. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,481
    edited January 2022
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the band has personal causes they believe in and they have the right to pick and choose their fights. I don't expect them to pick up every torch that is lit just because the fan base deems it righteous. 
    No. One can still be curious about them not supporting their "uncle". The spoon stirring the jamily. The Father Faithful.

    I mean, they did support Pono out of the gate :P 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,412
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the band has personal causes they believe in and they have the right to pick and choose their fights. I don't expect them to pick up every torch that is lit just because the fan base deems it righteous. 
    No. One can still be curious about them not supporting their "uncle". The spoon stirring the jamily. The Father Faithful.

    I mean, they did support Pono out of the gate :P 
    I mean, I kind of see your point considering their cancellation of a certain eastern state's concert a few years back over an issue they didn't support, but I don't think this is in any way similar either.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • electronicsdude
    electronicsdude Posts: 12
    edited January 2022
    Gern Blansten said:
    dankind said:
    tbergs said:
    dankind said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    electronicsdude said:
    Thread too long to read, though I did attempt a search to see if this has been posted. Seemed really odd to me that PJ didn't follow suit with Uncle Neil. Then I remembered EV has a new album about to drop... no way in hell he (or the band) gonna commercially hinder that so there you have it!
    Would be weird for Pearl Jam as a group to leave, but Eddie Vedder solo to stay on for that sweet sweet Spotify first week streams. 

    You really like to post this. Trying to make people aware that it isn't 1995 anymore?
    Kind of along those lines.

    Just funny to me that people think that 2022 EV gives a shit about any of this.


    agreed...as if leaving Spotify would have any effect on album sales or a tour
    It's not album "sales" or a tour... in this day every time a track is streamed it = $
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,511
    maybe they see it as hypocritical to tear down one media giant while propping up two others?
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,481
    edited January 2022
    tbergs said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the band has personal causes they believe in and they have the right to pick and choose their fights. I don't expect them to pick up every torch that is lit just because the fan base deems it righteous. 
    No. One can still be curious about them not supporting their "uncle". The spoon stirring the jamily. The Father Faithful.

    I mean, they did support Pono out of the gate :P 
    I mean, I kind of see your point considering their cancellation of a certain eastern state's concert a few years back over an issue they didn't support, but I don't think this is in any way similar either.
    That choice, instead of choosing another way to loadly protest, did hurt fans though - having taken vacation days, buying hotel and flight tickets. It was not a very fan centric approach. And the t-shirt I bought later on to support the cause, was to small for me.

    This on the other hand, would de facto not hurt any fans financially. And they would turn back a bit to team neil over team bruce.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • electronicsdude
    electronicsdude Posts: 12
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the band has personal causes they believe in and they have the right to pick and choose their fights. I don't expect them to pick up every torch that is lit just because the fan base deems it righteous. 
    No. One can still be curious about them not supporting their "uncle". The spoon stirring the jamily. The Father Faithful.

    I mean, they did support Pono out of the gate :P 
    Lest we not forget the cancelled NC show that some conspiracy theorists attributed to following Bruce's lead...
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,511
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    tbergs said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the band has personal causes they believe in and they have the right to pick and choose their fights. I don't expect them to pick up every torch that is lit just because the fan base deems it righteous. 
    No. One can still be curious about them not supporting their "uncle". The spoon stirring the jamily. The Father Faithful.

    I mean, they did support Pono out of the gate :P 
    I mean, I kind of see your point considering their cancellation of a certain eastern state's concert a few years back over an issue they didn't support, but I don't think this is in any way similar either.
    That choice, instead of choosing another way to loadly protest, did hurt fans though - having taken vacation days, buying hotel and flight tickets. It was not a very fan centric approach. 

    This on the other hand, would de facto not hurt any fans financially. 
    they should have played the Raleigh show and donated all proceeds to the LGBTQ cause. I agree. But that was beaten to death when it happened. lol
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    Gern Blansten said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I don't watch Rogan, but I watched his Instagram comments.  He is absolutely correct that talking about the virus possibly being lab grown was called misinformation and banned on some social networks until it wasn't.  We can all agree people shouldn't peddle misinformation, but it is a slippery slope as to what should be considered misinformation.  The J&J vaccine was safe for the elderly until it wasn't.  
    But is saying it might have been lab grown even an issue? Who cares about that?

    Deal with it first then we can figure out if someone is responsible. We still need to get vaxxed
    I'm just raising the question of who is the decider of what is or isn't misinformation, or rather intentional misinformation.  
  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,381
    Well thought out, reasonable response from Joe Rogan. “Misinformation” is becoming a dangerous word. Who determines what is misinformation and what isn’t?  Things have been taken down all over the internet that were labeled as such that turned out to be true. Open discussion from a podcast that has all kinds of different guests and viewpoints should not be taken down. People want things labeled as something negative when it doesn’t align with their own viewpoint. 
  • AW124797
    AW124797 Posts: 762
    cblock4life said:
    Perhaps you missed without naming names.  How do you know I was posting about you unless you’re that egotistical to believe that everything is about you.  But since you responded I guess I hit a nerve.  Asking women to not throw us back into the stone ages is not directing anything at one particular person HOWEVER thank you for proving my point.  
    AND FINALLY IF YOU FEEL SHAME ITS NOT MY PROBLEM 
    This is very interesting and progressive double down - all ladies united under one opinion. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,511
    Abe Froman said:
    Well thought out, reasonable response from Joe Rogan. “Misinformation” is becoming a dangerous word. Who determines what is misinformation and what isn’t?  Things have been taken down all over the internet that were labeled as such that turned out to be true. Open discussion from a podcast that has all kinds of different guests and viewpoints should not be taken down. People want things labeled as something negative when it doesn’t align with their own viewpoint. 
    I get what you're saying here, but at the same time, it seems clear that Rogan, at least up until this point, simply doesn't/didn't grasp the gravity of his words/discussions on his show. He doesn't understand his influence. there is ZERO wrong with challenging anything, science included (that's how it works), but when you routinely have guests on that spout obvious conspiracy theories without a shred of evidence, and posting it as fact, and then try to balance that out by excusing yourself since you occasionally have experts on, is irresponsible. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,481
    edited January 2022
    tbergs said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    tbergs said:
    dankind said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    electronicsdude said:
    Thread too long to read, though I did attempt a search to see if this has been posted. Seemed really odd to me that PJ didn't follow suit with Uncle Neil. Then I remembered EV has a new album about to drop... no way in hell he (or the band) gonna commercially hinder that so there you have it!
    Would be weird for Pearl Jam as a group to leave, but Eddie Vedder solo to stay on for that sweet sweet Spotify first week streams. 

    You really like to post this. Trying to make people aware that it isn't 1995 anymore?
    By pointing out the fashion or the airplane model, or what are you talking about?
    Eddie now caters to the rich and famous and can be bought...
    Are you suggesting he…


    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • patkelly12
    patkelly12 CT Posts: 361
    dankind said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    electronicsdude said:
    Thread too long to read, though I did attempt a search to see if this has been posted. Seemed really odd to me that PJ didn't follow suit with Uncle Neil. Then I remembered EV has a new album about to drop... no way in hell he (or the band) gonna commercially hinder that so there you have it!
    Would be weird for Pearl Jam as a group to leave, but Eddie Vedder solo to stay on for that sweet sweet Spotify first week streams. 


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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    patkelly12 said:
    dankind said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    electronicsdude said:
    Thread too long to read, though I did attempt a search to see if this has been posted. Seemed really odd to me that PJ didn't follow suit with Uncle Neil. Then I remembered EV has a new album about to drop... no way in hell he (or the band) gonna commercially hinder that so there you have it!
    Would be weird for Pearl Jam as a group to leave, but Eddie Vedder solo to stay on for that sweet sweet Spotify first week streams. 


    Are you same person you were 15 minutes ago?

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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    benjs said:
    Tjm007 said:
    When did America turn into an authoritarian country that wants to ban everything and everyone that has different views ?
    Perhaps you've misunderstood the definition of an "authoritarian country". An authoritarian country doesn't bend to the whims of the public - on the contrary, it imposes its will regardless of public sentiment. 

    When the public exerts pressure to make change with vocal criticism and non-violent protest - that's not only the way democratic countries have functioned for centuries, but a large part of the reason said democratic countries still exist and ever proceed in positive directions. 

    Also, authoritarianism typically involves some loss of freedom. The only freedom I can think of that you'd have lost with this disclaimer about potentially false information coming to Spotify, is the freedom to be ignorant. 
    That is the number 2 (to firearms ownership) favorite freedom of Americans today.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,502
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Abe Froman said:
    Well thought out, reasonable response from Joe Rogan. “Misinformation” is becoming a dangerous word. Who determines what is misinformation and what isn’t?  Things have been taken down all over the internet that were labeled as such that turned out to be true. Open discussion from a podcast that has all kinds of different guests and viewpoints should not be taken down. People want things labeled as something negative when it doesn’t align with their own viewpoint. 
    I get what you're saying here, but at the same time, it seems clear that Rogan, at least up until this point, simply doesn't/didn't grasp the gravity of his words/discussions on his show. He doesn't understand his influence. there is ZERO wrong with challenging anything, science included (that's how it works), but when you routinely have guests on that spout obvious conspiracy theories without a shred of evidence, and posting it as fact, and then try to balance that out by excusing yourself since you occasionally have experts on, is irresponsible. 

    or he does understand his influence since cashing a 100 million dollar check. and how often he falls back on that lame ass "I'm  just a dumb monkey, dont listen to me" or "I'm  just a stupid comedian, you shouldn't listen to me" , the above tells me he does know and doesnt really care
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  • dignin
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    bootlegger10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I don't watch Rogan, but I watched his Instagram comments.  He is absolutely correct that talking about the virus possibly being lab grown was called misinformation and banned on some social networks until it wasn't.  We can all agree people shouldn't peddle misinformation, but it is a slippery slope as to what should be considered misinformation.  The J&J vaccine was safe for the elderly until it wasn't.  
    But is saying it might have been lab grown even an issue? Who cares about that?

    Deal with it first then we can figure out if someone is responsible. We still need to get vaxxed
    I'm just raising the question of who is the decider of what is or isn't misinformation, or rather intentional misinformation.  
    When probably 99% of the scientific community says you are spreading misinformation, you are probably spreading misinformation. We can agree on that right?

    You have people who have dedicated their entire careers to research in a scientific field vs. someone who's read a couple shitty opinion pieces on the internet to validate their gut feeling.

    Intentions don't really matter here. The damage is just the same. And Spotify knows better.


  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,502
    dignin said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I don't watch Rogan, but I watched his Instagram comments.  He is absolutely correct that talking about the virus possibly being lab grown was called misinformation and banned on some social networks until it wasn't.  We can all agree people shouldn't peddle misinformation, but it is a slippery slope as to what should be considered misinformation.  The J&J vaccine was safe for the elderly until it wasn't.  
    But is saying it might have been lab grown even an issue? Who cares about that?

    Deal with it first then we can figure out if someone is responsible. We still need to get vaxxed
    I'm just raising the question of who is the decider of what is or isn't misinformation, or rather intentional misinformation.  
    When probably 99% of the scientific community says you are spreading misinformation, you are probably spreading misinformation. We can agree on that right?

    You have people who have dedicated their entire careers to research in a scientific field vs. someone who's read a couple shitty opinion pieces on the internet to validate their gut feeling.

    Intentions don't really matter here. The damage is just the same. And Spotify knows better.



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  • Nami
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-AEmqvyikM

    Is this true?  Just looked up the Hipgnosis, then the blackstone portion, then the appointment of the Ex-CEO of pfizer.

    Regardless, not good seeing Blackstone tied to his name/music... ugh


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