SCOTUS (Supreme Court of the United States)
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The section of President Biden's announcement at the White House with Justice Breyer by his side. He never said a word about "racial equality." What a made up, baloney construct. Have you called your senator and demanded that an Asian be named instead? In the interest of "racial equality?" Seeing how President Biden seems to have missed the boat on this one?
Choosing someone to sit on the Supreme Court, I believe, is one of the most serious constitutional responsibilities a President has. Our process is going to be rigorous. I will select a nominee worthy of Justice Breyer’s legacy of excellence and decency.
While I’ve been studying candidates’ backgrounds and writings, I’ve made no decisions except one: The person I will nominate will be someone with extraordinary qualifications, character, experience, and integrity, and that person will be the first Black woman ever nominated to the United States Supreme Court.
It’s long overdue, in my view. I made that commitment during the campaign for President, and I will keep that commitment.
I will fully do what I said I’d do: I will fulfill my duty to select a justice not only with the Senate’s consent, but with its advice.
You’ve heard me say in other nomination processes that the Constitution says seek the “advice and consent,” but the advice as well of the Senate. I’m going to invite senators from both parties to offer their ideas and points of view.
I’ll also consult with leading scholars and lawyers. And I am fortunate to have advising me in this selection process Vice President Kamala Harris. She’s an exceptional lawyer, a former Attorney General of the State of California, a former member of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
I will listen carefully to all the advice I’m given, and I will study the records and former cases carefully. I’ll meet with the potential nominees. And it is my intention — my intention to announce my decision before the end of February.
In the end, I will nominate a historic candidate, someone who is worthy of Justice Breyer’s legacy and someone who, like Justice Breyer, will provide incredible service on the United States Supreme Court.
Justice Breyer, on behalf of all the American people, I want to thank you and your family — and your family for your tremendous service to our nation.
And I’m going to yield the floor to you, Mr. Justice.
I appreciate it.
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Yes, I totally agree. I don't even have an issue if he had said, "I will not be nominating a person that is white." I agree that there needs to be racial diversity on the SCOTUS but it isn't true racial equality to pledge it to 1 ethnic group that is represented when other ethnic groups are not.gimmesometruth27 said:"god please let it be another young, conservative, bible thumping, white guy."
sounds like an unpopular position. as it should be.
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Racial equity (or racial justice) is the systematic fair treatment of all people, result- ing in fair opportunities and outcomes for everyone.Halifax2TheMax said:
Did President Biden state that he was going to nominate a Black woman to SCOTUS in the interest of “racial equality?”JB16057 said:
I know the answer to the first one so that isn't baiting anyone. The last question I can argue because no one here has an issue that he promised 1 underrepresented race a place on the SCOTUS and completely left out all the other races that have no representation.benjs said:
What an obnoxious baiting question - it speaks to your level of disingenuousness.JB16057 said:Gern Blansten said:
The GOP rallies their base by dog whistles. The whole narrative of "he should choose the best person not the ethnic type that benefits him (even though this was a campaign promise) is a loud whistle.Ledbetterman10 said:
But do you think it's "outrage" similar to what I'm arguing here; just go ahead and pick a black woman without announcing it ahead of time? Or do you think it's outrage because of it being a black woman? I'm guessing the latter based on you putting "read it and weep" as a caption with Biden's tweet, but I could be wrong.Gern Blansten said:
ok I wasn't referring to you directly....just people in general. It's the new Fox outrageLedbetterman10 said:
No I saw Biden's full tweet. You posted it yesterday. He threw out very generic "qualifications" like character and integrity, which anyone would say about anybody that they're nominating for anything, so that's fine. But he could just leave it at that, and then just pick a black woman. That would make it at least appear like he went through possible nominees of all races, creeds, and genders, and the person that he decided had the most character and integrity was the black woman he ends up choosing. It'd probably be a better "welcome to the spotlight" moment for the nominee too, being picked for her character and integrity, rather than looking like an affirmative action hire, which is probably beneath her.Gern Blansten said:
They never get told that part....news is not something they seek out. It's all memes on FBHughFreakingDillon said:it's odd to me how people are completely ignoring the first part of Biden's announcement. all he mentions are qualifications. and then "oh by the way....".If Biden had pledged to put a white person on the SCOTUS, would you have an issue with that?You are wrong. He didn't promise to put an "ethnic person" on the SCOTUS. He only gave 1 ethnic group a chance. That isn't racial equality.Of course African Americans need representation and are underrepresented but there are other ethnic groups who are not represented at all.Are you against racial equality?How is that true racial equality when there some ethnic groups have no representation at all?
Some key words in here are "all" and "everyone".
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But President Biden never “promised” that or pledged to do it when making his SCOTUS appointment preference. Guess you’d be in favor of expanding the court so he could though, right? Sure you’d be, sure.JB16057 said:
Racial equity (or racial justice) is the systematic fair treatment of all people, result- ing in fair opportunities and outcomes for everyone.Halifax2TheMax said:
Did President Biden state that he was going to nominate a Black woman to SCOTUS in the interest of “racial equality?”JB16057 said:
I know the answer to the first one so that isn't baiting anyone. The last question I can argue because no one here has an issue that he promised 1 underrepresented race a place on the SCOTUS and completely left out all the other races that have no representation.benjs said:
What an obnoxious baiting question - it speaks to your level of disingenuousness.JB16057 said:Gern Blansten said:
The GOP rallies their base by dog whistles. The whole narrative of "he should choose the best person not the ethnic type that benefits him (even though this was a campaign promise) is a loud whistle.Ledbetterman10 said:
But do you think it's "outrage" similar to what I'm arguing here; just go ahead and pick a black woman without announcing it ahead of time? Or do you think it's outrage because of it being a black woman? I'm guessing the latter based on you putting "read it and weep" as a caption with Biden's tweet, but I could be wrong.Gern Blansten said:
ok I wasn't referring to you directly....just people in general. It's the new Fox outrageLedbetterman10 said:
No I saw Biden's full tweet. You posted it yesterday. He threw out very generic "qualifications" like character and integrity, which anyone would say about anybody that they're nominating for anything, so that's fine. But he could just leave it at that, and then just pick a black woman. That would make it at least appear like he went through possible nominees of all races, creeds, and genders, and the person that he decided had the most character and integrity was the black woman he ends up choosing. It'd probably be a better "welcome to the spotlight" moment for the nominee too, being picked for her character and integrity, rather than looking like an affirmative action hire, which is probably beneath her.Gern Blansten said:
They never get told that part....news is not something they seek out. It's all memes on FBHughFreakingDillon said:it's odd to me how people are completely ignoring the first part of Biden's announcement. all he mentions are qualifications. and then "oh by the way....".If Biden had pledged to put a white person on the SCOTUS, would you have an issue with that?You are wrong. He didn't promise to put an "ethnic person" on the SCOTUS. He only gave 1 ethnic group a chance. That isn't racial equality.Of course African Americans need representation and are underrepresented but there are other ethnic groups who are not represented at all.Are you against racial equality?How is that true racial equality when there some ethnic groups have no representation at all?
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And I thought the phrase was, “equality of opportunity, not equal outcomes?”09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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we cannot have that with 9 justices.JB16057 said:
Yes, I totally agree. I don't even have an issue if he had said, "I will not be nominating a person that is white." I agree that there needs to be racial diversity on the SCOTUS but it isn't true racial equality to pledge it to 1 ethnic group that is represented when other ethnic groups are not.gimmesometruth27 said:"god please let it be another young, conservative, bible thumping, white guy."
sounds like an unpopular position. as it should be.
and even if we did have one justice from every ethnicity, even that one person would not represent everyone in that ethnicity.
what about all of the uncle ruckuses of the world?
wait i guess clarence thomas could represent uncle ruckus, but not many of the rest of the african american community."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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You're right. He didn't promise that. Racial equity doesn't matter to democrats I guess.Halifax2TheMax said:
But President Biden never “promised” that or pledged to do it when making his SCOTUS appointment preference. Guess you’d be in favor of expanding the court so he could though, right? Sure you’d be, sure.JB16057 said:
Racial equity (or racial justice) is the systematic fair treatment of all people, result- ing in fair opportunities and outcomes for everyone.Halifax2TheMax said:
Did President Biden state that he was going to nominate a Black woman to SCOTUS in the interest of “racial equality?”JB16057 said:
I know the answer to the first one so that isn't baiting anyone. The last question I can argue because no one here has an issue that he promised 1 underrepresented race a place on the SCOTUS and completely left out all the other races that have no representation.benjs said:
What an obnoxious baiting question - it speaks to your level of disingenuousness.JB16057 said:Gern Blansten said:
The GOP rallies their base by dog whistles. The whole narrative of "he should choose the best person not the ethnic type that benefits him (even though this was a campaign promise) is a loud whistle.Ledbetterman10 said:
But do you think it's "outrage" similar to what I'm arguing here; just go ahead and pick a black woman without announcing it ahead of time? Or do you think it's outrage because of it being a black woman? I'm guessing the latter based on you putting "read it and weep" as a caption with Biden's tweet, but I could be wrong.Gern Blansten said:
ok I wasn't referring to you directly....just people in general. It's the new Fox outrageLedbetterman10 said:
No I saw Biden's full tweet. You posted it yesterday. He threw out very generic "qualifications" like character and integrity, which anyone would say about anybody that they're nominating for anything, so that's fine. But he could just leave it at that, and then just pick a black woman. That would make it at least appear like he went through possible nominees of all races, creeds, and genders, and the person that he decided had the most character and integrity was the black woman he ends up choosing. It'd probably be a better "welcome to the spotlight" moment for the nominee too, being picked for her character and integrity, rather than looking like an affirmative action hire, which is probably beneath her.Gern Blansten said:
They never get told that part....news is not something they seek out. It's all memes on FBHughFreakingDillon said:it's odd to me how people are completely ignoring the first part of Biden's announcement. all he mentions are qualifications. and then "oh by the way....".If Biden had pledged to put a white person on the SCOTUS, would you have an issue with that?You are wrong. He didn't promise to put an "ethnic person" on the SCOTUS. He only gave 1 ethnic group a chance. That isn't racial equality.Of course African Americans need representation and are underrepresented but there are other ethnic groups who are not represented at all.Are you against racial equality?How is that true racial equality when there some ethnic groups have no representation at all?
Some key words in here are "all" and "everyone".
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gimmesometruth27 said:
we cannot have that with 9 justices.JB16057 said:
Yes, I totally agree. I don't even have an issue if he had said, "I will not be nominating a person that is white." I agree that there needs to be racial diversity on the SCOTUS but it isn't true racial equality to pledge it to 1 ethnic group that is represented when other ethnic groups are not.gimmesometruth27 said:"god please let it be another young, conservative, bible thumping, white guy."
sounds like an unpopular position. as it should be.
and even if we did have one justice from every ethnicity, even that one person would not represent everyone in that ethnicity.
what about all of the uncle ruckuses of the world?
wait i guess clarence thomas could represent uncle ruckus, but not many of the rest of the african american community.Yeah but the sky is blue!See, I too can argue points that you aren't trying to make like what you are doing to me. You are trying to deflect from the fact that this administration promised racial equity but didn't bother giving under represented ethnic groups a chance at a seat on the SCOTUS. That is not racial equity.
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Please link us to an Administration or candidate or POTUS Biden statement promising “racial equity.” In the absence of such, your argument is garbage.JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
we cannot have that with 9 justices.JB16057 said:
Yes, I totally agree. I don't even have an issue if he had said, "I will not be nominating a person that is white." I agree that there needs to be racial diversity on the SCOTUS but it isn't true racial equality to pledge it to 1 ethnic group that is represented when other ethnic groups are not.gimmesometruth27 said:"god please let it be another young, conservative, bible thumping, white guy."
sounds like an unpopular position. as it should be.
and even if we did have one justice from every ethnicity, even that one person would not represent everyone in that ethnicity.
what about all of the uncle ruckuses of the world?
wait i guess clarence thomas could represent uncle ruckus, but not many of the rest of the african american community.Yeah but the sky is blue!See, I too can argue points that you aren't trying to make like what you are doing to me. You are trying to deflect from the fact that this administration promised racial equity but didn't bother giving under represented ethnic groups a chance at a seat on the SCOTUS. That is not racial equity.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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As opposed to say POOTWH who promised to MAGA. Even ran on it. Twice. “Fact.”09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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And what was that about Dems not being concerned with “racial equity,” again? Particularly, when compared to repubs? Or are we only comparing Dems against themselves? Like with the economic failure currently gripping the nation?
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/01/13/how-trump-compares-with-other-recent-presidents-in-appointing-federal-judges/
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room-reading comprehension needs some work.JB16057 said:OK. I'll read the room. "Racial equality is not important."Now on gender, I can understand and agree with that.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
They do it cause they are politicians and they pander.
but does anyone disagree that for any of these jobs it would just be better to shut the fuck up and nominate whomever you think would be best for the job?I mean we’d end up in a better place as a society…but those politicians would lose some stupid votes from fucking idiots that buy into their political bullshit.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Whatever. https://www.npr.org/2021/10/21/1048130208/the-proposals-to-tackle-racial-equity-included-in-bidens-spending-bill-are-at-riHalifax2TheMax said:
Please link us to an Administration or candidate or POTUS Biden statement promising “racial equity.” In the absence of such, your argument is garbage.JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
we cannot have that with 9 justices.JB16057 said:
Yes, I totally agree. I don't even have an issue if he had said, "I will not be nominating a person that is white." I agree that there needs to be racial diversity on the SCOTUS but it isn't true racial equality to pledge it to 1 ethnic group that is represented when other ethnic groups are not.gimmesometruth27 said:"god please let it be another young, conservative, bible thumping, white guy."
sounds like an unpopular position. as it should be.
and even if we did have one justice from every ethnicity, even that one person would not represent everyone in that ethnicity.
what about all of the uncle ruckuses of the world?
wait i guess clarence thomas could represent uncle ruckus, but not many of the rest of the african american community.Yeah but the sky is blue!See, I too can argue points that you aren't trying to make like what you are doing to me. You are trying to deflect from the fact that this administration promised racial equity but didn't bother giving under represented ethnic groups a chance at a seat on the SCOTUS. That is not racial equity.
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JB16057 said:
Whatever. https://www.npr.org/2021/10/21/1048130208/the-proposals-to-tackle-racial-equity-included-in-bidens-spending-bill-are-at-riHalifax2TheMax said:
Please link us to an Administration or candidate or POTUS Biden statement promising “racial equity.” In the absence of such, your argument is garbage.JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
we cannot have that with 9 justices.JB16057 said:
Yes, I totally agree. I don't even have an issue if he had said, "I will not be nominating a person that is white." I agree that there needs to be racial diversity on the SCOTUS but it isn't true racial equality to pledge it to 1 ethnic group that is represented when other ethnic groups are not.gimmesometruth27 said:"god please let it be another young, conservative, bible thumping, white guy."
sounds like an unpopular position. as it should be.
and even if we did have one justice from every ethnicity, even that one person would not represent everyone in that ethnicity.
what about all of the uncle ruckuses of the world?
wait i guess clarence thomas could represent uncle ruckus, but not many of the rest of the african american community.Yeah but the sky is blue!See, I too can argue points that you aren't trying to make like what you are doing to me. You are trying to deflect from the fact that this administration promised racial equity but didn't bother giving under represented ethnic groups a chance at a seat on the SCOTUS. That is not racial equity.PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: We have a real chance to deliver real equity across the board to everyone - Black, white, Latino, Asian American.
BIDEN: Good jobs, good schools, affordable housing, clean air, clean water.
I'm not sure what your problem is with this. I mean, he's saying he wants to help lift up minorities. He is doing that with this nomination. But your "either he lifts them all up in this single specific scenario or he lifts none of them up" is a bit of a head scratcher.
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HughFreakingDillon said:JB16057 said:
Whatever. https://www.npr.org/2021/10/21/1048130208/the-proposals-to-tackle-racial-equity-included-in-bidens-spending-bill-are-at-riHalifax2TheMax said:
Please link us to an Administration or candidate or POTUS Biden statement promising “racial equity.” In the absence of such, your argument is garbage.JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
we cannot have that with 9 justices.JB16057 said:
Yes, I totally agree. I don't even have an issue if he had said, "I will not be nominating a person that is white." I agree that there needs to be racial diversity on the SCOTUS but it isn't true racial equality to pledge it to 1 ethnic group that is represented when other ethnic groups are not.gimmesometruth27 said:"god please let it be another young, conservative, bible thumping, white guy."
sounds like an unpopular position. as it should be.
and even if we did have one justice from every ethnicity, even that one person would not represent everyone in that ethnicity.
what about all of the uncle ruckuses of the world?
wait i guess clarence thomas could represent uncle ruckus, but not many of the rest of the african american community.Yeah but the sky is blue!See, I too can argue points that you aren't trying to make like what you are doing to me. You are trying to deflect from the fact that this administration promised racial equity but didn't bother giving under represented ethnic groups a chance at a seat on the SCOTUS. That is not racial equity.PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: We have a real chance to deliver real equity across the board to everyone - Black, white, Latino, Asian American.
BIDEN: Good jobs, good schools, affordable housing, clean air, clean water.
I'm not sure what your problem is with this. I mean, he's saying he wants to help lift up minorities. He is doing that with this nomination. But your "either he lifts them all up in this single specific scenario or he lifts none of them up" is a bit of a head scratcher.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: "We have a real chance to deliver real equity across the board to everyone - Black, white, Latino, Asian American."...... Except when it comes to SCOTUS nominations.Did I say lift them all up in this single scenario? No. You are putting words in my mouth like others are here to deflect the fact that Biden limited his "racial equity" to only 1 ethnic group when some groups have no representation at all when it comes to his SCOTUS nomination.0 -
Halifax2TheMax said:And what was that about Dems not being concerned with “racial equity,” again? Particularly, when compared to repubs? Or are we only comparing Dems against themselves? Like with the economic failure currently gripping the nation?
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/01/13/how-trump-compares-with-other-recent-presidents-in-appointing-federal-judges/All roads lead back to Trump....I don't know if you knew this but Trump hasn't been in office for over a year now. It's time to move forward and stop rehashing the past unless you just can't let your TDS go.Do you want to talk about the past or do you want to talk about the present and the future? Biden is president now and has been for over a year. I know I keep saying that but you keep bringing up Trump as if it is relevant. How about we focus on how to do better than Trump?In the absence of such, your argument is garbage.
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he is limited to the one space that is currently open. I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth. I'm trying to understand why it seems you'd rather him do nothing if he can't do everything.JB16057 said:HughFreakingDillon said:JB16057 said:
Whatever. https://www.npr.org/2021/10/21/1048130208/the-proposals-to-tackle-racial-equity-included-in-bidens-spending-bill-are-at-riHalifax2TheMax said:
Please link us to an Administration or candidate or POTUS Biden statement promising “racial equity.” In the absence of such, your argument is garbage.JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
we cannot have that with 9 justices.JB16057 said:
Yes, I totally agree. I don't even have an issue if he had said, "I will not be nominating a person that is white." I agree that there needs to be racial diversity on the SCOTUS but it isn't true racial equality to pledge it to 1 ethnic group that is represented when other ethnic groups are not.gimmesometruth27 said:"god please let it be another young, conservative, bible thumping, white guy."
sounds like an unpopular position. as it should be.
and even if we did have one justice from every ethnicity, even that one person would not represent everyone in that ethnicity.
what about all of the uncle ruckuses of the world?
wait i guess clarence thomas could represent uncle ruckus, but not many of the rest of the african american community.Yeah but the sky is blue!See, I too can argue points that you aren't trying to make like what you are doing to me. You are trying to deflect from the fact that this administration promised racial equity but didn't bother giving under represented ethnic groups a chance at a seat on the SCOTUS. That is not racial equity.PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: We have a real chance to deliver real equity across the board to everyone - Black, white, Latino, Asian American.
BIDEN: Good jobs, good schools, affordable housing, clean air, clean water.
I'm not sure what your problem is with this. I mean, he's saying he wants to help lift up minorities. He is doing that with this nomination. But your "either he lifts them all up in this single specific scenario or he lifts none of them up" is a bit of a head scratcher.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: "We have a real chance to deliver real equity across the board to everyone - Black, white, Latino, Asian American."...... Except when it comes to SCOTUS nominations.Did I say lift them all up in this single scenario? No. You are putting words in my mouth like others are here to deflect the fact that Biden limited his "racial equity" to only 1 ethnic group when some groups have no representation at all when it comes to his SCOTUS nomination.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:
he is limited to the one space that is currently open. I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth. I'm trying to understand why it seems you'd rather him do nothing if he can't do everything.JB16057 said:HughFreakingDillon said:JB16057 said:
Whatever. https://www.npr.org/2021/10/21/1048130208/the-proposals-to-tackle-racial-equity-included-in-bidens-spending-bill-are-at-riHalifax2TheMax said:
Please link us to an Administration or candidate or POTUS Biden statement promising “racial equity.” In the absence of such, your argument is garbage.JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
we cannot have that with 9 justices.JB16057 said:
Yes, I totally agree. I don't even have an issue if he had said, "I will not be nominating a person that is white." I agree that there needs to be racial diversity on the SCOTUS but it isn't true racial equality to pledge it to 1 ethnic group that is represented when other ethnic groups are not.gimmesometruth27 said:"god please let it be another young, conservative, bible thumping, white guy."
sounds like an unpopular position. as it should be.
and even if we did have one justice from every ethnicity, even that one person would not represent everyone in that ethnicity.
what about all of the uncle ruckuses of the world?
wait i guess clarence thomas could represent uncle ruckus, but not many of the rest of the african american community.Yeah but the sky is blue!See, I too can argue points that you aren't trying to make like what you are doing to me. You are trying to deflect from the fact that this administration promised racial equity but didn't bother giving under represented ethnic groups a chance at a seat on the SCOTUS. That is not racial equity.PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: We have a real chance to deliver real equity across the board to everyone - Black, white, Latino, Asian American.
BIDEN: Good jobs, good schools, affordable housing, clean air, clean water.
I'm not sure what your problem is with this. I mean, he's saying he wants to help lift up minorities. He is doing that with this nomination. But your "either he lifts them all up in this single specific scenario or he lifts none of them up" is a bit of a head scratcher.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: "We have a real chance to deliver real equity across the board to everyone - Black, white, Latino, Asian American."...... Except when it comes to SCOTUS nominations.Did I say lift them all up in this single scenario? No. You are putting words in my mouth like others are here to deflect the fact that Biden limited his "racial equity" to only 1 ethnic group when some groups have no representation at all when it comes to his SCOTUS nomination.I did not say I'd rather him do nothing.Why couldn't he had just promised that he was going to nominate a person from an ethnic group? That wouldn't be "nothing". I keep the saying the same things over and over again and no one is directly responding to what I'm saying. They are putting words in my mouth or bringing up irrelevant issues or just bringing up Trump.I'll repeat myself with different words here. You are correct when you say he is limited to one space that is currently open. Why limit his nominations to one ethnic group like he did? That isn't racial equity.PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: "We have a real chance to deliver real equity across the board to everyone - Black, white, Latino, Asian American."He never gave white(which I'm actually OK with), Latinos or Asian Americans a chance. That is not racial equity. Not giving white people a chance at all is not racial equity but seeing how they are over represented, that must be corrected and it is.I have no issues with his nomination being African American. They are underrepresented but other ethnic groups are not represented at all.Nominating an African American is still progress for racial equity but at face value, this was not done in a way that was racially equitable "across the board to everyone".0 -
k, I wrote out a long post but now I think I know what you're getting at. I was getting confused by you saying "nominations" plural, when there's one seat. Are you saying you would have rathered him announce the next seat would be "of a minority group", making the public think he could choose mexican, black, asian, etc?JB16057 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
he is limited to the one space that is currently open. I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth. I'm trying to understand why it seems you'd rather him do nothing if he can't do everything.JB16057 said:HughFreakingDillon said:JB16057 said:
Whatever. https://www.npr.org/2021/10/21/1048130208/the-proposals-to-tackle-racial-equity-included-in-bidens-spending-bill-are-at-riHalifax2TheMax said:
Please link us to an Administration or candidate or POTUS Biden statement promising “racial equity.” In the absence of such, your argument is garbage.JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
we cannot have that with 9 justices.JB16057 said:
Yes, I totally agree. I don't even have an issue if he had said, "I will not be nominating a person that is white." I agree that there needs to be racial diversity on the SCOTUS but it isn't true racial equality to pledge it to 1 ethnic group that is represented when other ethnic groups are not.gimmesometruth27 said:"god please let it be another young, conservative, bible thumping, white guy."
sounds like an unpopular position. as it should be.
and even if we did have one justice from every ethnicity, even that one person would not represent everyone in that ethnicity.
what about all of the uncle ruckuses of the world?
wait i guess clarence thomas could represent uncle ruckus, but not many of the rest of the african american community.Yeah but the sky is blue!See, I too can argue points that you aren't trying to make like what you are doing to me. You are trying to deflect from the fact that this administration promised racial equity but didn't bother giving under represented ethnic groups a chance at a seat on the SCOTUS. That is not racial equity.PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: We have a real chance to deliver real equity across the board to everyone - Black, white, Latino, Asian American.
BIDEN: Good jobs, good schools, affordable housing, clean air, clean water.
I'm not sure what your problem is with this. I mean, he's saying he wants to help lift up minorities. He is doing that with this nomination. But your "either he lifts them all up in this single specific scenario or he lifts none of them up" is a bit of a head scratcher.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: "We have a real chance to deliver real equity across the board to everyone - Black, white, Latino, Asian American."...... Except when it comes to SCOTUS nominations.Did I say lift them all up in this single scenario? No. You are putting words in my mouth like others are here to deflect the fact that Biden limited his "racial equity" to only 1 ethnic group when some groups have no representation at all when it comes to his SCOTUS nomination.I did not say I'd rather him do nothing.Why couldn't he had just promised that he was going to nominate a person from an ethnic group? That wouldn't be "nothing". I keep the saying the same things over and over again and no one is directly responding to what I'm saying. They are putting words in my mouth or bringing up irrelevant issues or just bringing up Trump.I'll repeat myself with different words here. You are correct when you say he is limited to one space that is currently open. Why limit his nominations to one ethnic group like he did? That isn't racial equity.PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: "We have a real chance to deliver real equity across the board to everyone - Black, white, Latino, Asian American."He never gave white(which I'm actually OK with), Latinos or Asian Americans a chance. That is not racial equity. Not giving white people a chance at all is not racial equity but seeing how they are over represented, that must be corrected and it is.I have no issues with his nomination being African American. They are underrepresented but other ethnic groups are not represented at all.Nominating an African American is still progress for racial equity but at face value, this was not done in a way that was racially equitable "across the board to everyone".
I'm pretty sure those discussions actually took place. behind closed doors, and announcing that would have just been more pandering that his critics keep deriding him for. he didn't just decide "black woman" on a whim all on his own. So making the public think he was choosing from any other minority group would have been unfair to the other ones hoping, and could be disastrous politically. This isn't a pageant or an election. I think your expectation is a little over the top and would have made it a circus.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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