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  • Posts: 6,499
    edited January 2022
    HughFreakingDillon said:
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    it's estimated 48% of americans are obese, so, assuming the fan club is also a decent enough sample size to reflect society, 50% wouldn't be a far off estimate. 
    Possibly, but that is assuming that this specific rock band’s fan club reflects society as a whole :). Not to mention there are plenty of non-Americans here and pretty linear demographics otherwise.  I would put it closer to 25%-30%. That is probably a topic for a different thread, though, right?
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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,842
    it takes months, sometimes even years, of hard work to lose weight. It takes literally sitting in a chair for 15 minutes to get the vaccine. you simply cannot compare the two. 
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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,842
    PJPOWER said:
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    Possibly, but that is assuming that this specific rock band’s fan club reflects society as a whole :). Not to mention there are plenty of non-Americans here and pretty linear demographics.  I would put it closer to 25%-30%. That is probably a topic for a different thread, though, right?
    I'd say most are americans, and it might even skew fatter since a lot of us on the forums tend to be sitting all day at our jobs or just sitting on the computer doing nothing. 

    but yes, another thread. 
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  • Posts: 762
    mrussel1 said:
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    Exactly.  So why do you expect the scientists to be clairvoyant and create a vax for something that didn't exist at the time?  They saved millions of lives with the vaccine for Alpha and Delta.  Vaccines suck because the virus mutated?  Your positions make no sense.. at all.  Not even a little.  
    My point is: vaccinated spread too. 
  • Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,508
    edited January 2022
    AW124797 said:
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    My point is: vaccinated spread too. 
    and we all know that....also water is wet
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  • Posts: 6,499
    edited January 2022
    mrussel1 said:
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    And to be fair, PJ Power is absolutely one of our conservative friends here.  We've had plenty of throw downs.  So. he's no flaming lib. 
    Absolutely not a “flaming lib” nor a diehard conservative.  I struggle with both ideologies, truth be told…ha…help me :)

    btw, do you watch Letterkenny?  “To be fair” always makes me want to sing it, lol
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    AW124797 said:
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    Thank you!
    Your analogy is right on point and don't let anyone tell you anything different. Obese people make the decision to be obese much like the unvaccinated make their decision to not be vaccinated. Both have all the information they need but still make their own decision to be not be healthy. I am not advocating that everyone starts to shame the obese. To be clear, we shouldn't be shaming either group because it's only going to cause more division. There is a plethora of unhealthy decisions made every day by many of us yet the unvaccinated are the only ones being attacked daily.

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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    it takes months, sometimes even years, of hard work to lose weight. It takes literally sitting in a chair for 15 minutes to get the vaccine. you simply cannot compare the two. 
    Exactly. They are not 2 sides of the same coin AT ALL.

    Gern Blansten said:
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    and we all know that....also water is wet
    What about water vapor? Just teasing, of course. 
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  • Posts: 1,269
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    it takes months, sometimes even years, of hard work to lose weight. It takes literally sitting in a chair for 15 minutes to get the vaccine. you simply cannot compare the two. 
    Yes you can compare the two and I have multiple times. It's not about the time it takes to do something. It's about having all the information in front of you and still making the same unhealthy decisions.

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    JB16057 said:
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    Your analogy is right on point and don't let anyone tell you anything different. Obese people make the decision to be obese much like the unvaccinated make their decision to not be vaccinated. Both have all the information they need but still make their own decision to be not be healthy. I am not advocating that everyone starts to shame the obese. To be clear, we shouldn't be shaming either group because it's only going to cause more division. There is a plethora of unhealthy decisions made every day by many of us yet the unvaccinated are the only ones being attacked daily.

    Very well said. Couldn't agree more.
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    edited January 2022
    JB16057 said:
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    Your analogy is right on point and don't let anyone tell you anything different. Obese people make the decision to be obese much like the unvaccinated make their decision to not be vaccinated. Both have all the information they need but still make their own decision to be not be healthy. I am not advocating that everyone starts to shame the obese. To be clear, we shouldn't be shaming either group because it's only going to cause more division. There is a plethora of unhealthy decisions made every day by many of us yet the unvaccinated are the only ones being attacked daily.

    It only works if the argument is related to hospitals.  But you could counter that by recognizing that the hospital system we have is developed for the demographics as they exist today, which includes the obese.  So yes, if we had fewer obese, we'd have fewer people in the hospital, but because that's a long societal curve, we'd also have fewer beds available.  Ergo, it would be likely that the pandemic would still tax the hospital system.  This is just basic second/third order effect reasoning. 

    Obesity is NOT a contagion.  That's the difference.  
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
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    I'd say most are americans, and it might even skew fatter since a lot of us on the forums tend to be sitting all day at our jobs or just sitting on the computer doing nothing. 

    but yes, another thread. 
    Probably closer to 80% now that you mention it.  At least my fat ass is vaccinated, lol
  • Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,508
    JB16057 said:
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    Your analogy is right on point and don't let anyone tell you anything different. Obese people make the decision to be obese much like the unvaccinated make their decision to not be vaccinated. Both have all the information they need but still make their own decision to be not be healthy. I am not advocating that everyone starts to shame the obese. To be clear, we shouldn't be shaming either group because it's only going to cause more division. There is a plethora of unhealthy decisions made every day by many of us yet the unvaccinated are the only ones being attacked daily.

    It's really not on point at all.  A decision to get the vaccine can be made now and you get an immediate result.
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  • Posts: 6,499
    edited January 2022
    JB16057 said:
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    Your analogy is right on point and don't let anyone tell you anything different. Obese people make the decision to be obese much like the unvaccinated make their decision to not be vaccinated. Both have all the information they need but still make their own decision to be not be healthy. I am not advocating that everyone starts to shame the obese. To be clear, we shouldn't be shaming either group because it's only going to cause more division. There is a plethora of unhealthy decisions made every day by many of us yet the unvaccinated are the only ones being attacked daily.

    “Don’t let anyone tell you different” is probably the best way to research and form non-biased opinions………….
    Have you seen the new movie “Don’t Look Up” or the classic “Idiocracy”, btw?  “Don’t let anyone tell you different” is a pretty big theme of those if you can’t imagine :)
    At least you admitted that not getting vaccinated is an unhealthy decision.
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  • Posts: 42,765
    edited January 2022
    AW124797 said:
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    Thank you!
    I’ll assume that you’re both pro-soda tax. And White House gardens with lots of kale.
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  • Posts: 6,499
    edited January 2022
    AW124797 said:
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    Very well said. Couldn't agree more.
    So you agree that not being vaccinated is an unhealthy decision too….that’s all I need to know.
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    Lots of data here now eh @cincybearcat?
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  • Posts: 6,499
    edited January 2022
    JB16057 said:
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    Yes you can compare the two and I have multiple times. It's not about the time it takes to do something. It's about having all the information in front of you and still making the same unhealthy decisions.

    Again, most obese people know it probably isn’t healthy to be that way.  On the opposite, most anti-vaxers deny the science and facts all together…That’s what makes them idiots in my book.  I’m all about avoiding mandates and new laws, but it’s annoying seeing people unable to take care of themselves due to complete scientific denial or lack of education or whatever it is.

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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,842
    JB16057 said:
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    Your analogy is right on point and don't let anyone tell you anything different. Obese people make the decision to be obese much like the unvaccinated make their decision to not be vaccinated. Both have all the information they need but still make their own decision to be not be healthy. I am not advocating that everyone starts to shame the obese. To be clear, we shouldn't be shaming either group because it's only going to cause more division. There is a plethora of unhealthy decisions made every day by many of us yet the unvaccinated are the only ones being attacked daily.

    no one but the unvaxxed/unmasked are willingly doing nothing to stop the spread of this deadly disease. full fucking stop. the obese are more likely to end up in hospital from either the unvaxxed or vaxxed group, but they aren't spreading their obesity. 

    this is the dumbest analogy in recent memory. 
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