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Only partially true. The effectiveness also didn’t last as long as hoped which also contributed.mrussel1 said:
This is a misrepresentation. The vaccine was 95% against the virus as it existed at the time. Then it was lower against Delta but still effective. Now less so again, without the booster. The science communities cannot read the future nor develop a vaccine for something that doesn't yet exist.mace1229 said:
It is inferior to what we were originally told it was. It was first sold as 95% effective at getting infected with the virus. We were told get the vaccine and this can go away. When it turned out it wasn’t quite as effective at preventing infections and preventing the spread, the focus turned to the lower number of hospitalizations and milder symptoms. And we’re now told get the vaccine so when you get sick you have a lesser chance of being hospitalized.mrussel1 said:
Was the product inferior before Omnicron? If you say yes, you better have some really strong data to back up such a statement. And also tell us about the superior product comparatively.JB16057 said:
inferior product - current vaccineHughFreakingDillon said:
inferior product?AW124797 said:
Correct! I'm tired of mandates and propaganda with this inferior product - current vaccine. Hopefully, they'll come up with something better in the near future. Till then, "think for yourself and question authority."HughFreakingDillon said:I think what A-dub is saying is that when the vaccine effectiveness first was reported at up to 90%, yes, people were rejoicing. However, once we learned more about how the effectiveness wanes, but also can be thrown for a loop, depending on the next variant, so it was kind of a false hope that we were given. (however, we were given that hope since that was all that was known at the time)
I think he/she is speaking somewhat off the cuff about it, using adjectives that are absolute, when we should know they don't mean it literally.
correct me if I'm wrong, however.I’m not saying we shouldn’t move the goal posts. We should as we get more data and information. But the vaccine isn’t as effective even before Omricron as originally believed. That could be considered inferior.
Id still recommend getting to everyone I know.
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They still don’t even fully know how long the vaccines last, but CDC recommends getting booster 6 months after Pfizer and just 2 months after Johnson and Johnson. So if you had Pfizer in March, you weren’t that well covered in September. And even faster if you got J&J.0
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Is political bias civil? Has nothing to do with covid. I could easily presume that you're racist too since you categorize people so well. I've lost interest in our interview exchange as you brought politics into this virus conversation 2 days ago. Why keep bringing up that nonsense interview and my comment. It's out of context. I tried to ignore it. Nothing to see there.mrussel1 said:
Your opinion is unsupported by the facts. When challenged, you claim you lost interest. You write in absolutes, seeing a binary world. Asking if you’re Trumpy is uncivil?AW124797 said:Right. I knew it was coming. Can't keep it civil when somebody has a different opinion.0 -
Simple - you believe in Jesus and I believe in Santa. Or vice versa. I forgot.Halifax2TheMax said:
As had you. But you also haven’t defended your positions or declarations very well. I’m not sure why that is, though.AW124797 said:
You mentioned "lost interest?"Halifax2TheMax said:Hey! Brakes in your car don’t prevent 100% of accidents. Completely useless. Get rid of em and don’t use them.0 -
I don’t think the companies ever said how long it would last. That couldn’t be tested without delaying the rollout. I think people hoped it would be a year but that was sort of contingent on the virus being seasonal, which it obviously isn’t yet. I see 12 months between identification of the virus to mass rollout of a vaccine as a miracle. Yes it would be great if it lasted longer and if it was effective against all mutations, but I think it’s a stunning success.mace1229 said:
Only partially true. The effectiveness also didn’t last as long as hoped which also contributed.mrussel1 said:
This is a misrepresentation. The vaccine was 95% against the virus as it existed at the time. Then it was lower against Delta but still effective. Now less so again, without the booster. The science communities cannot read the future nor develop a vaccine for something that doesn't yet exist.mace1229 said:
It is inferior to what we were originally told it was. It was first sold as 95% effective at getting infected with the virus. We were told get the vaccine and this can go away. When it turned out it wasn’t quite as effective at preventing infections and preventing the spread, the focus turned to the lower number of hospitalizations and milder symptoms. And we’re now told get the vaccine so when you get sick you have a lesser chance of being hospitalized.mrussel1 said:
Was the product inferior before Omnicron? If you say yes, you better have some really strong data to back up such a statement. And also tell us about the superior product comparatively.JB16057 said:
inferior product - current vaccineHughFreakingDillon said:
inferior product?AW124797 said:
Correct! I'm tired of mandates and propaganda with this inferior product - current vaccine. Hopefully, they'll come up with something better in the near future. Till then, "think for yourself and question authority."HughFreakingDillon said:I think what A-dub is saying is that when the vaccine effectiveness first was reported at up to 90%, yes, people were rejoicing. However, once we learned more about how the effectiveness wanes, but also can be thrown for a loop, depending on the next variant, so it was kind of a false hope that we were given. (however, we were given that hope since that was all that was known at the time)
I think he/she is speaking somewhat off the cuff about it, using adjectives that are absolute, when we should know they don't mean it literally.
correct me if I'm wrong, however.I’m not saying we shouldn’t move the goal posts. We should as we get more data and information. But the vaccine isn’t as effective even before Omricron as originally believed. That could be considered inferior.
Id still recommend getting to everyone I know.I think you can see the parallels between this and the Spanish Flu. Future mutations will continue to be less lethal than the original, it will be seasonal and there will a tweak to the vaccine each year. Not everyone will take it but those that are high risk should. We still have up to 50k people die of the flu each year in this country.0 -
Oh the sweet baby jebus! Santa is real! Still can’t defend your opines, eh? Well, Christmas is coming and if you’re good, Santa will help you.AW124797 said:
Simple - you believe in Jesus and I believe in Santa. Or vice versa. I forgot.Halifax2TheMax said:
As had you. But you also haven’t defended your positions or declarations very well. I’m not sure why that is, though.AW124797 said:
You mentioned "lost interest?"Halifax2TheMax said:Hey! Brakes in your car don’t prevent 100% of accidents. Completely useless. Get rid of em and don’t use them.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Do I really have to defend record breaking cases globally after one year of vaccination? I'm sure you've heard. Or ineffective flu vaccine at 40%? What else?Halifax2TheMax said:
Oh the sweet baby jebus! Santa is real! Still can’t defend your opines, eh? Well, Christmas is coming and if you’re good, Santa will help you.AW124797 said:
Simple - you believe in Jesus and I believe in Santa. Or vice versa. I forgot.Halifax2TheMax said:
As had you. But you also haven’t defended your positions or declarations very well. I’m not sure why that is, though.AW124797 said:
You mentioned "lost interest?"Halifax2TheMax said:Hey! Brakes in your car don’t prevent 100% of accidents. Completely useless. Get rid of em and don’t use them.0 -
40-60% = useless to you, it’s no wonder that interview was so perplexing.AW124797 said:
Do I really have to defend record breaking cases globally after one year of vaccination? I'm sure you've heard. Or ineffective flu vaccine at 40%? What else?Halifax2TheMax said:
Oh the sweet baby jebus! Santa is real! Still can’t defend your opines, eh? Well, Christmas is coming and if you’re good, Santa will help you.AW124797 said:
Simple - you believe in Jesus and I believe in Santa. Or vice versa. I forgot.Halifax2TheMax said:
As had you. But you also haven’t defended your positions or declarations very well. I’m not sure why that is, though.AW124797 said:
You mentioned "lost interest?"Halifax2TheMax said:Hey! Brakes in your car don’t prevent 100% of accidents. Completely useless. Get rid of em and don’t use them.0 -
What percentage of folks have to have had covid to reach herd immunity? What percentage of those with covid, hospitalized and dying are unvaccinated? Versus those who are?AW124797 said:
Do I really have to defend record breaking cases globally after one year of vaccination? I'm sure you've heard. Or ineffective flu vaccine at 40%? What else?Halifax2TheMax said:
Oh the sweet baby jebus! Santa is real! Still can’t defend your opines, eh? Well, Christmas is coming and if you’re good, Santa will help you.AW124797 said:
Simple - you believe in Jesus and I believe in Santa. Or vice versa. I forgot.Halifax2TheMax said:
As had you. But you also haven’t defended your positions or declarations very well. I’m not sure why that is, though.AW124797 said:
You mentioned "lost interest?"Halifax2TheMax said:Hey! Brakes in your car don’t prevent 100% of accidents. Completely useless. Get rid of em and don’t use them.
Is seasonal flu eradicated? How about aids? SARS? Or any other type of viral infection disease?
If not 100%, it’s not effective? That’s just dumb. Drunk driving laws? Not effective, get rid of them. And hey! Go out and drunk drive everyone because, well, we can’t stop it 100% anyway. And age limits for guns? Why? You’re not stopping kids from killing others, right? What’s the point? And child proof caps on cleaning chemicals and medicine. Just a pain in the ass. Get rid of them. Lighters? Those Bic lighters where you’ve got to press two buttons simultaneously while you flick to get it to light? Dumb! Go back to the old school lighters. Airbags? No good, either.
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Leukemia only has a 50% survival rate. Pfftttt.. so sick of those useless chemo, radiation and other treatments. Totally worthless. Why even bother with such ineffective garbage. Just let them die.Halifax2TheMax said:
What percentage of folks have to have had covid to reach herd immunity? What percentage of those with covid, hospitalized and dying are unvaccinated? Versus those who are?AW124797 said:
Do I really have to defend record breaking cases globally after one year of vaccination? I'm sure you've heard. Or ineffective flu vaccine at 40%? What else?Halifax2TheMax said:
Oh the sweet baby jebus! Santa is real! Still can’t defend your opines, eh? Well, Christmas is coming and if you’re good, Santa will help you.AW124797 said:
Simple - you believe in Jesus and I believe in Santa. Or vice versa. I forgot.Halifax2TheMax said:
As had you. But you also haven’t defended your positions or declarations very well. I’m not sure why that is, though.AW124797 said:
You mentioned "lost interest?"Halifax2TheMax said:Hey! Brakes in your car don’t prevent 100% of accidents. Completely useless. Get rid of em and don’t use them.
Is seasonal flu eradicated? How about aids? SARS? Or any other type of viral infection disease?
If not 100%, it’s not effective? That’s just dumb. Drunk driving laws? Not effective, get rid of them. And hey! Go out and drunk drive everyone because, well, we can’t stop it 100% anyway. And age limits for guns? Why? You’re not stopping kids from killing others, right? What’s the point? And child proof caps on cleaning chemicals and medicine. Just a pain in the ass. Get rid of them. Lighters? Those Bic lighters where you’ve got to press two buttons simultaneously while you flick to get it to light? Dumb! Go back to the old school lighters. Airbags? No good, either.
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"They've done studies, you know. 40% of the time, it works every time."mrussel1 said:
40-60% = useless to you, it’s no wonder that interview was so perplexing.AW124797 said:
Do I really have to defend record breaking cases globally after one year of vaccination? I'm sure you've heard. Or ineffective flu vaccine at 40%? What else?Halifax2TheMax said:
Oh the sweet baby jebus! Santa is real! Still can’t defend your opines, eh? Well, Christmas is coming and if you’re good, Santa will help you.AW124797 said:
Simple - you believe in Jesus and I believe in Santa. Or vice versa. I forgot.Halifax2TheMax said:
As had you. But you also haven’t defended your positions or declarations very well. I’m not sure why that is, though.AW124797 said:
You mentioned "lost interest?"Halifax2TheMax said:Hey! Brakes in your car don’t prevent 100% of accidents. Completely useless. Get rid of em and don’t use them.0 -
How do you have time for all of this? Wasted your whole day...Halifax2TheMax said:
What percentage of folks have to have had covid to reach herd immunity? What percentage of those with covid, hospitalized and dying are unvaccinated? Versus those who are?AW124797 said:
Do I really have to defend record breaking cases globally after one year of vaccination? I'm sure you've heard. Or ineffective flu vaccine at 40%? What else?Halifax2TheMax said:
Oh the sweet baby jebus! Santa is real! Still can’t defend your opines, eh? Well, Christmas is coming and if you’re good, Santa will help you.AW124797 said:
Simple - you believe in Jesus and I believe in Santa. Or vice versa. I forgot.Halifax2TheMax said:
As had you. But you also haven’t defended your positions or declarations very well. I’m not sure why that is, though.AW124797 said:
You mentioned "lost interest?"Halifax2TheMax said:Hey! Brakes in your car don’t prevent 100% of accidents. Completely useless. Get rid of em and don’t use them.
Is seasonal flu eradicated? How about aids? SARS? Or any other type of viral infection disease?
If not 100%, it’s not effective? That’s just dumb. Drunk driving laws? Not effective, get rid of them. And hey! Go out and drunk drive everyone because, well, we can’t stop it 100% anyway. And age limits for guns? Why? You’re not stopping kids from killing others, right? What’s the point? And child proof caps on cleaning chemicals and medicine. Just a pain in the ass. Get rid of them. Lighters? Those Bic lighters where you’ve got to press two buttons simultaneously while you flick to get it to light? Dumb! Go back to the old school lighters. Airbags? No good, either.
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Took me about a minute and I must say, I’m entertained by our exchanges but hardly enlightened. I miss the old days. Sigh (through my mask).AW124797 said:
How do you have time for all of this? Wasted your whole day...Halifax2TheMax said:
What percentage of folks have to have had covid to reach herd immunity? What percentage of those with covid, hospitalized and dying are unvaccinated? Versus those who are?AW124797 said:
Do I really have to defend record breaking cases globally after one year of vaccination? I'm sure you've heard. Or ineffective flu vaccine at 40%? What else?Halifax2TheMax said:
Oh the sweet baby jebus! Santa is real! Still can’t defend your opines, eh? Well, Christmas is coming and if you’re good, Santa will help you.AW124797 said:
Simple - you believe in Jesus and I believe in Santa. Or vice versa. I forgot.Halifax2TheMax said:
As had you. But you also haven’t defended your positions or declarations very well. I’m not sure why that is, though.AW124797 said:
You mentioned "lost interest?"Halifax2TheMax said:Hey! Brakes in your car don’t prevent 100% of accidents. Completely useless. Get rid of em and don’t use them.
Is seasonal flu eradicated? How about aids? SARS? Or any other type of viral infection disease?
If not 100%, it’s not effective? That’s just dumb. Drunk driving laws? Not effective, get rid of them. And hey! Go out and drunk drive everyone because, well, we can’t stop it 100% anyway. And age limits for guns? Why? You’re not stopping kids from killing others, right? What’s the point? And child proof caps on cleaning chemicals and medicine. Just a pain in the ass. Get rid of them. Lighters? Those Bic lighters where you’ve got to press two buttons simultaneously while you flick to get it to light? Dumb! Go back to the old school lighters. Airbags? No good, either.
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Ooooooooooo, spooky! Is that a catavirus? Or a pantheravirus? I heard those are both the cat’s meow. And a lifetime of immunity. Speaking of which, has the tribe spoken?AW124797 said:09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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watched Don't Look Up tonight. some people have the plot nailed right down.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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Thank you yes. Its our turn this week im sure of it.stuckinline said:
How's the family? Is everyone feeling better?lastexitlondon said:Its like lets just argue and go at eachother. We are all struggling to make the best possible decisions for ourselves and our children and parents. Really sometimes i do wonder what people are thinking. How about just be kind and understanding?
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What did you want me to say? Counter argue they should ban alcohol, cigarettes and (most importantly) sugar? It's pointless. By the way, you meant to say - through my double mask.Halifax2TheMax said:
Took me about a minute and I must say, I’m entertained by our exchanges but hardly enlightened. I miss the old days. Sigh (through my mask).AW124797 said:
How do you have time for all of this? Wasted your whole day...Halifax2TheMax said:
What percentage of folks have to have had covid to reach herd immunity? What percentage of those with covid, hospitalized and dying are unvaccinated? Versus those who are?AW124797 said:
Do I really have to defend record breaking cases globally after one year of vaccination? I'm sure you've heard. Or ineffective flu vaccine at 40%? What else?Halifax2TheMax said:
Oh the sweet baby jebus! Santa is real! Still can’t defend your opines, eh? Well, Christmas is coming and if you’re good, Santa will help you.AW124797 said:
Simple - you believe in Jesus and I believe in Santa. Or vice versa. I forgot.Halifax2TheMax said:
As had you. But you also haven’t defended your positions or declarations very well. I’m not sure why that is, though.AW124797 said:
You mentioned "lost interest?"Halifax2TheMax said:Hey! Brakes in your car don’t prevent 100% of accidents. Completely useless. Get rid of em and don’t use them.
Is seasonal flu eradicated? How about aids? SARS? Or any other type of viral infection disease?
If not 100%, it’s not effective? That’s just dumb. Drunk driving laws? Not effective, get rid of them. And hey! Go out and drunk drive everyone because, well, we can’t stop it 100% anyway. And age limits for guns? Why? You’re not stopping kids from killing others, right? What’s the point? And child proof caps on cleaning chemicals and medicine. Just a pain in the ass. Get rid of them. Lighters? Those Bic lighters where you’ve got to press two buttons simultaneously while you flick to get it to light? Dumb! Go back to the old school lighters. Airbags? No good, either.
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