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mine too. triple shot baby!PJPOWER said:
Probably closer to 80% now that you mention it. At least my fat ass is vaccinated, lolHughFreakingDillon said:
I'd say most are americans, and it might even skew fatter since a lot of us on the forums tend to be sitting all day at our jobs or just sitting on the computer doing nothing.PJPOWER said:
Possibly, but that is assuming that this specific rock band’s fan club reflects society as a wholeHughFreakingDillon said:
it's estimated 48% of americans are obese, so, assuming the fan club is also a decent enough sample size to reflect society, 50% wouldn't be a far off estimate.PJPOWER said:
By far the dumbest analogy I’ve seen lately, congrats. If you didn’t believe eating donuts and cokes makes you fat, and you were trying to not be obese, then yes, I would call you a fat idiot. Where is your data that 50% of forum users are obese? You state that as a fact with no research? Sounds like you just believe what you want to with only assumptions to credit for those beliefs. Sounds like a fabulous way to go about making medical decisions.AW124797 said:
Why would you say "anti-vax idiots?" It's equivalent to "fat idiots." Over 50% of forum users are obese. Why not tell them to slow down on donut, coke and midnight snack consumption? Or mandate calorie intake restrictions. Same thing. Health choices.PJPOWER said:
Exactly. But it’s probably a pointless topic since most anti-vax idiots are probably too selfish and inconsiderate to consider life insurance anyway. That, and I think some of them truly believe they are invincible. I can’t keep up with their delusions anymore.Zod said:PJPOWER said:
Out of curiosity, do you think that life insurance companies will raise the rates on or refuse coverage for unvaccinated people in the same way they do for cigarette smokers, alcoholics, and obese people?AW124797 said:
What did you want me to say? Counter argue they should ban alcohol, cigarettes and (most importantly) sugar? It's pointless. By the way, you meant to say - through my double mask.Halifax2TheMax said:
Took me about a minute and I must say, I’m entertained by our exchanges but hardly enlightened. I miss the old days. Sigh (through my mask).AW124797 said:
How do you have time for all of this? Wasted your whole day...Halifax2TheMax said:
What percentage of folks have to have had covid to reach herd immunity? What percentage of those with covid, hospitalized and dying are unvaccinated? Versus those who are?AW124797 said:
Do I really have to defend record breaking cases globally after one year of vaccination? I'm sure you've heard. Or ineffective flu vaccine at 40%? What else?Halifax2TheMax said:
Oh the sweet baby jebus! Santa is real! Still can’t defend your opines, eh? Well, Christmas is coming and if you’re good, Santa will help you.AW124797 said:
Simple - you believe in Jesus and I believe in Santa. Or vice versa. I forgot.Halifax2TheMax said:
As had you. But you also haven’t defended your positions or declarations very well. I’m not sure why that is, though.AW124797 said:
You mentioned "lost interest?"Halifax2TheMax said:Hey! Brakes in your car don’t prevent 100% of accidents. Completely useless. Get rid of em and don’t use them.
Is seasonal flu eradicated? How about aids? SARS? Or any other type of viral infection disease?
If not 100%, it’s not effective? That’s just dumb. Drunk driving laws? Not effective, get rid of them. And hey! Go out and drunk drive everyone because, well, we can’t stop it 100% anyway. And age limits for guns? Why? You’re not stopping kids from killing others, right? What’s the point? And child proof caps on cleaning chemicals and medicine. Just a pain in the ass. Get rid of them. Lighters? Those Bic lighters where you’ve got to press two buttons simultaneously while you flick to get it to light? Dumb! Go back to the old school lighters. Airbags? No good, either.
Is everyone who is eligible to be vaccinated, vaccinated?
Probably? If something makes the odds too high of having to pay out, the insurance companies won't want to insure it. There whole model works on everyone chipping into a pot, but only so many people need to take from the pot. If unvaxxed people have too great a chance of landing in the hospital, it would tip those scales.
Fact: data from vaccines show that they are safe and very effective in most cases.
Fact: eating donuts can make you fat
If you deny either of the above, in my book, you are an idiot (but that’s just an assumption on my part).
. Not to mention there are plenty of non-Americans here and pretty linear demographics. I would put it closer to 25%-30%. That is probably a topic for a different thread, though, right?
but yes, another thread.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:
no one but the unvaxxed/unmasked are willingly doing nothing to stop the spread of this deadly disease. full fucking stop. the obese are more likely to end up in hospital from either the unvaxxed or vaxxed group, but they aren't spreading their obesity.JB16057 said:AW124797 said:
Thank you!JB16057 said:PJPOWER said:
By far the dumbest analogy I’ve seen lately, congrats. If you didn’t believe eating donuts and cokes makes you fat, then yes, I would call you a fat idiot. Where is your data that 50% of forum users are obese? You state that as a fact with no research? Sounds like you just believe what you want to with only assumptions to credit for those beliefs. Sounds like a fabulous way to go about making medical decisions.AW124797 said:
Why would you say "anti-vax idiots?" It's equivalent to "fat idiots." Over 50% of forum users are obese. Why not tell them to slow down on donut, coke and midnight snack consumption? Or mandate calorie intake restrictions. Same thing. Health choices.PJPOWER said:
Exactly. But it’s probably a pointless topic since most anti-vax idiots are probably too selfish and inconsiderate to consider life insurance anyway. That, and I think some of them truly believe they are invincible. I can’t keep up with their delusions anymore.Zod said:PJPOWER said:
Out of curiosity, do you think that life insurance companies will raise the rates on or refuse coverage for unvaccinated people in the same way they do for cigarette smokers, alcoholics, and obese people?AW124797 said:
What did you want me to say? Counter argue they should ban alcohol, cigarettes and (most importantly) sugar? It's pointless. By the way, you meant to say - through my double mask.Halifax2TheMax said:
Took me about a minute and I must say, I’m entertained by our exchanges but hardly enlightened. I miss the old days. Sigh (through my mask).AW124797 said:
How do you have time for all of this? Wasted your whole day...Halifax2TheMax said:
What percentage of folks have to have had covid to reach herd immunity? What percentage of those with covid, hospitalized and dying are unvaccinated? Versus those who are?AW124797 said:
Do I really have to defend record breaking cases globally after one year of vaccination? I'm sure you've heard. Or ineffective flu vaccine at 40%? What else?Halifax2TheMax said:
Oh the sweet baby jebus! Santa is real! Still can’t defend your opines, eh? Well, Christmas is coming and if you’re good, Santa will help you.AW124797 said:
Simple - you believe in Jesus and I believe in Santa. Or vice versa. I forgot.Halifax2TheMax said:
As had you. But you also haven’t defended your positions or declarations very well. I’m not sure why that is, though.AW124797 said:
You mentioned "lost interest?"Halifax2TheMax said:Hey! Brakes in your car don’t prevent 100% of accidents. Completely useless. Get rid of em and don’t use them.
Is seasonal flu eradicated? How about aids? SARS? Or any other type of viral infection disease?
If not 100%, it’s not effective? That’s just dumb. Drunk driving laws? Not effective, get rid of them. And hey! Go out and drunk drive everyone because, well, we can’t stop it 100% anyway. And age limits for guns? Why? You’re not stopping kids from killing others, right? What’s the point? And child proof caps on cleaning chemicals and medicine. Just a pain in the ass. Get rid of them. Lighters? Those Bic lighters where you’ve got to press two buttons simultaneously while you flick to get it to light? Dumb! Go back to the old school lighters. Airbags? No good, either.
Is everyone who is eligible to be vaccinated, vaccinated?
Probably? If something makes the odds too high of having to pay out, the insurance companies won't want to insure it. There whole model works on everyone chipping into a pot, but only so many people need to take from the pot. If unvaxxed people have too great a chance of landing in the hospital, it would tip those scales.How is that the dumbest analogy? Did you know that much like the vaccine, there are plenty of studies that show that being overweight isn't healthy for you? Obesity has been on of COVID's biggest issues. Many of the people that have died are obese. It isn't hard to exercise yet people still don't do it. Funny how all of the anti-vax shamers don't go after the obese in the same way. If more people lived a healthier life, many lives could've been saved during this pandemic. Are obese people selfish? They take up hospital beds because of their life choices. They make life decisions to not be healthy much like the unvaccinated make their decision.Your analogy is right on point and don't let anyone tell you anything different. Obese people make the decision to be obese much like the unvaccinated make their decision to not be vaccinated. Both have all the information they need but still make their own decision to be not be healthy. I am not advocating that everyone starts to shame the obese. To be clear, we shouldn't be shaming either group because it's only going to cause more division. There is a plethora of unhealthy decisions made every day by many of us yet the unvaccinated are the only ones being attacked daily.
this is the dumbest analogy in recent memory.
It sure is.0 -
It's convenient for people to deflect off topic completely when they don't have the data to support their opinion.Halifax2TheMax said:Lots of data here now eh @cincybearcat?hippiemom = goodness0 -
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Woot woot! Btw, don’t leave, you are needed here!HughFreakingDillon said:
mine too. triple shot baby!PJPOWER said:
Probably closer to 80% now that you mention it. At least my fat ass is vaccinated, lolHughFreakingDillon said:
I'd say most are americans, and it might even skew fatter since a lot of us on the forums tend to be sitting all day at our jobs or just sitting on the computer doing nothing.PJPOWER said:
Possibly, but that is assuming that this specific rock band’s fan club reflects society as a wholeHughFreakingDillon said:
it's estimated 48% of americans are obese, so, assuming the fan club is also a decent enough sample size to reflect society, 50% wouldn't be a far off estimate.PJPOWER said:
By far the dumbest analogy I’ve seen lately, congrats. If you didn’t believe eating donuts and cokes makes you fat, and you were trying to not be obese, then yes, I would call you a fat idiot. Where is your data that 50% of forum users are obese? You state that as a fact with no research? Sounds like you just believe what you want to with only assumptions to credit for those beliefs. Sounds like a fabulous way to go about making medical decisions.AW124797 said:
Why would you say "anti-vax idiots?" It's equivalent to "fat idiots." Over 50% of forum users are obese. Why not tell them to slow down on donut, coke and midnight snack consumption? Or mandate calorie intake restrictions. Same thing. Health choices.PJPOWER said:
Exactly. But it’s probably a pointless topic since most anti-vax idiots are probably too selfish and inconsiderate to consider life insurance anyway. That, and I think some of them truly believe they are invincible. I can’t keep up with their delusions anymore.Zod said:PJPOWER said:
Out of curiosity, do you think that life insurance companies will raise the rates on or refuse coverage for unvaccinated people in the same way they do for cigarette smokers, alcoholics, and obese people?AW124797 said:
What did you want me to say? Counter argue they should ban alcohol, cigarettes and (most importantly) sugar? It's pointless. By the way, you meant to say - through my double mask.Halifax2TheMax said:
Took me about a minute and I must say, I’m entertained by our exchanges but hardly enlightened. I miss the old days. Sigh (through my mask).AW124797 said:
How do you have time for all of this? Wasted your whole day...Halifax2TheMax said:
What percentage of folks have to have had covid to reach herd immunity? What percentage of those with covid, hospitalized and dying are unvaccinated? Versus those who are?AW124797 said:
Do I really have to defend record breaking cases globally after one year of vaccination? I'm sure you've heard. Or ineffective flu vaccine at 40%? What else?Halifax2TheMax said:
Oh the sweet baby jebus! Santa is real! Still can’t defend your opines, eh? Well, Christmas is coming and if you’re good, Santa will help you.AW124797 said:
Simple - you believe in Jesus and I believe in Santa. Or vice versa. I forgot.Halifax2TheMax said:
As had you. But you also haven’t defended your positions or declarations very well. I’m not sure why that is, though.AW124797 said:
You mentioned "lost interest?"Halifax2TheMax said:Hey! Brakes in your car don’t prevent 100% of accidents. Completely useless. Get rid of em and don’t use them.
Is seasonal flu eradicated? How about aids? SARS? Or any other type of viral infection disease?
If not 100%, it’s not effective? That’s just dumb. Drunk driving laws? Not effective, get rid of them. And hey! Go out and drunk drive everyone because, well, we can’t stop it 100% anyway. And age limits for guns? Why? You’re not stopping kids from killing others, right? What’s the point? And child proof caps on cleaning chemicals and medicine. Just a pain in the ass. Get rid of them. Lighters? Those Bic lighters where you’ve got to press two buttons simultaneously while you flick to get it to light? Dumb! Go back to the old school lighters. Airbags? No good, either.
Is everyone who is eligible to be vaccinated, vaccinated?
Probably? If something makes the odds too high of having to pay out, the insurance companies won't want to insure it. There whole model works on everyone chipping into a pot, but only so many people need to take from the pot. If unvaxxed people have too great a chance of landing in the hospital, it would tip those scales.
Fact: data from vaccines show that they are safe and very effective in most cases.
Fact: eating donuts can make you fat
If you deny either of the above, in my book, you are an idiot (but that’s just an assumption on my part).. Not to mention there are plenty of non-Americans here and pretty linear demographics. I would put it closer to 25%-30%. That is probably a topic for a different thread, though, right?
but yes, another thread.0 -
Fake news. Asses don't get the vaccine.Halifax2TheMax said:Covid vaccinations are given in the ass? Who knew?hippiemom = goodness0 -
I do appreciate that. thanks.PJPOWER said:
Woot woot! Btw, don’t leave, you are needed here!HughFreakingDillon said:
mine too. triple shot baby!PJPOWER said:
Probably closer to 80% now that you mention it. At least my fat ass is vaccinated, lolHughFreakingDillon said:
I'd say most are americans, and it might even skew fatter since a lot of us on the forums tend to be sitting all day at our jobs or just sitting on the computer doing nothing.PJPOWER said:
Possibly, but that is assuming that this specific rock band’s fan club reflects society as a wholeHughFreakingDillon said:
it's estimated 48% of americans are obese, so, assuming the fan club is also a decent enough sample size to reflect society, 50% wouldn't be a far off estimate.PJPOWER said:
By far the dumbest analogy I’ve seen lately, congrats. If you didn’t believe eating donuts and cokes makes you fat, and you were trying to not be obese, then yes, I would call you a fat idiot. Where is your data that 50% of forum users are obese? You state that as a fact with no research? Sounds like you just believe what you want to with only assumptions to credit for those beliefs. Sounds like a fabulous way to go about making medical decisions.AW124797 said:
Why would you say "anti-vax idiots?" It's equivalent to "fat idiots." Over 50% of forum users are obese. Why not tell them to slow down on donut, coke and midnight snack consumption? Or mandate calorie intake restrictions. Same thing. Health choices.PJPOWER said:
Exactly. But it’s probably a pointless topic since most anti-vax idiots are probably too selfish and inconsiderate to consider life insurance anyway. That, and I think some of them truly believe they are invincible. I can’t keep up with their delusions anymore.Zod said:PJPOWER said:
Out of curiosity, do you think that life insurance companies will raise the rates on or refuse coverage for unvaccinated people in the same way they do for cigarette smokers, alcoholics, and obese people?AW124797 said:
What did you want me to say? Counter argue they should ban alcohol, cigarettes and (most importantly) sugar? It's pointless. By the way, you meant to say - through my double mask.Halifax2TheMax said:
Took me about a minute and I must say, I’m entertained by our exchanges but hardly enlightened. I miss the old days. Sigh (through my mask).AW124797 said:
How do you have time for all of this? Wasted your whole day...Halifax2TheMax said:
What percentage of folks have to have had covid to reach herd immunity? What percentage of those with covid, hospitalized and dying are unvaccinated? Versus those who are?AW124797 said:
Do I really have to defend record breaking cases globally after one year of vaccination? I'm sure you've heard. Or ineffective flu vaccine at 40%? What else?Halifax2TheMax said:
Oh the sweet baby jebus! Santa is real! Still can’t defend your opines, eh? Well, Christmas is coming and if you’re good, Santa will help you.AW124797 said:
Simple - you believe in Jesus and I believe in Santa. Or vice versa. I forgot.Halifax2TheMax said:
As had you. But you also haven’t defended your positions or declarations very well. I’m not sure why that is, though.AW124797 said:
You mentioned "lost interest?"Halifax2TheMax said:Hey! Brakes in your car don’t prevent 100% of accidents. Completely useless. Get rid of em and don’t use them.
Is seasonal flu eradicated? How about aids? SARS? Or any other type of viral infection disease?
If not 100%, it’s not effective? That’s just dumb. Drunk driving laws? Not effective, get rid of them. And hey! Go out and drunk drive everyone because, well, we can’t stop it 100% anyway. And age limits for guns? Why? You’re not stopping kids from killing others, right? What’s the point? And child proof caps on cleaning chemicals and medicine. Just a pain in the ass. Get rid of them. Lighters? Those Bic lighters where you’ve got to press two buttons simultaneously while you flick to get it to light? Dumb! Go back to the old school lighters. Airbags? No good, either.
Is everyone who is eligible to be vaccinated, vaccinated?
Probably? If something makes the odds too high of having to pay out, the insurance companies won't want to insure it. There whole model works on everyone chipping into a pot, but only so many people need to take from the pot. If unvaxxed people have too great a chance of landing in the hospital, it would tip those scales.
Fact: data from vaccines show that they are safe and very effective in most cases.
Fact: eating donuts can make you fat
If you deny either of the above, in my book, you are an idiot (but that’s just an assumption on my part).. Not to mention there are plenty of non-Americans here and pretty linear demographics. I would put it closer to 25%-30%. That is probably a topic for a different thread, though, right?
but yes, another thread.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
The potential benefits of cannabis has been known since early on in the pandemic…I posted some articles. Big pharma I doubt would ever bring it into a lab to see if/how beneficial…I hope I’m wrong…but I am a heavy cannabis user…maybe the vaccine and cannabis combined offers better protection…Give Peas A Chance…0
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cincybearcat said:Lots of high level discussion and data in this thread lately...
How are you feeling. Cincy? Kicking that viruses butt, I hope!
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If your fat it’s not a wise idea to be giving health advice…Give Peas A Chance…0
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if you are a heavy cannabis smoker you should not be giving out any health advice.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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Thanks to Pfizer I am winning. A bit of a rollercoaster, but I feel fortunate.brianlux said:cincybearcat said:Lots of high level discussion and data in this thread lately...
How are you feeling. Cincy? Kicking that viruses butt, I hope!hippiemom = goodness0 -
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In his defense, he did say “user” and not “smoker”.HughFreakingDillon said:if you are a heavy cannabis smoker you should not be giving out any health advice.0 -
Happy to hear it. Wishing you a speedy recovery.cincybearcat said:
Thanks to Pfizer I am winning. A bit of a rollercoaster, but I feel fortunate.brianlux said:cincybearcat said:Lots of high level discussion and data in this thread lately...
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cincybearcat said:
Thanks to Pfizer I am winning. A bit of a rollercoaster, but I feel fortunate.brianlux said:cincybearcat said:Lots of high level discussion and data in this thread lately...
How are you feeling. Cincy? Kicking that viruses butt, I hope!
Great! Keep it up!
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What ever happened to good common sense medical practice?
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haha, love those old ads!brianlux said:What ever happened to good common sense medical practice?Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:
haha, love those old ads!brianlux said:What ever happened to good common sense medical practice?
And my folks couldn't understand it when I started smoking at 15.
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At least I wasn't this young:
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