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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,461
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  • WishfulThinking
    WishfulThinking Posts: 96
    A review of publicly available data by DecisionData.org found the average cable package costs $217.42 per month. That's more than many households pay for other utilities combined, according to the website. It also notes that cable package prices are similar regardless of the size of a household.Aug 12, 2021

    I’ll gladly give up TV for a night with Ed.
  • KW6232
    KW6232 Posts: 381
    WishfulThinking said:
    A review of publicly available data by DecisionData.org found the average cable package costs $217.42 per month. That's more than many households pay for other utilities combined, according to the website. It also notes that cable package prices are similar regardless of the size of a household.Aug 12, 2021

    I’ll gladly give up TV for a night with Ed.
    1 night. You’d have to go without cable for over a month
  • smile6680
    smile6680 Posts: 437
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  • parintachin73
    parintachin73 Posts: 742
    Compared to other bands $250 can absolutely seem excessive for the amount of music these shows are gonna provide. Other than probably the final shows in Seattle, they will probably be less than or close to 2 hr shows.  It’s not gonna be like an epic PJ show. But nevertheless, I’ll probably put in for tickets because I haven’t been to a show in 3 years and I love this friggin band. But I do think that part of the rationale behind ticket price is that it’s kind of an all-star band playing some special shows. Even the very first Ed Solo shows were more expensive than PJ tickets at the time and there was a push to market them as “special” shows. Whether they were or not is of course subject to the individual but I know for me personally, I’ve never left an Ed or PJ show feeling ripped off. Even the times I’ve hemmed and hawed about ticket price initially, I’ve always felt I got my money’s worth in the end. 
  • helplessdancer
    helplessdancer Posts: 5,293
    this weekend we got a top shelf club show for $20 a ticket. big win
  • jimjam1982
    jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,471
    $85 bucks to see metallica.. tool was 125. PJ was like 120...

    Outside of Ed the earthlings are just washed old musicians who weren't even the highlights of their main band and they are asking $250 a shot for a handful of mediocre to pretty good originals and a dozen subpar covers.. yikes not even sure how this works. Can't imagine any of these sell out
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,126
    jimjam1982 said:
    $85 bucks to see metallica.. tool was 125. PJ was like 120...

    Outside of Ed the earthlings are just washed old musicians who weren't even the highlights of their main band and they are asking $250 a shot for a handful of mediocre to pretty good originals and a dozen subpar covers.. yikes not even sure how this works. Can't imagine any of these sell out

    There was nothing subpar about the covers of Drive, Im One, Should I Stay or Should I Go, and Give Blood. In fact they were amazing and a nice change from Ed solo.
  • PJ5a1
    PJ5a1 Oceanside, NY Posts: 458
    There is no doubt the ticket pricing was a shock. More expensive to see Ed and The Earthlings than PJ... Out of excitement, I went for the two NY shows and the one NJ show... would have cost me $1400 for all three (two tickets per show) then I said that is f'ing crazy so I went down to two - still would have been $900+, so now I am down to one.... The point is - for a band we all followed forever, they've always been against pricing out the fan because they want to maintain their audiences, their true audiences....

    This comes across as gauging and doing exactly what they've fought against for all of these years... Is what it is - things change.
    If I were Eddie Vedder, would you like me any better? - Local H
  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    PJ5a1 said:
    There is no doubt the ticket pricing was a shock. More expensive to see Ed and The Earthlings than PJ... Out of excitement, I went for the two NY shows and the one NJ show... would have cost me $1400 for all three (two tickets per show) then I said that is f'ing crazy so I went down to two - still would have been $900+, so now I am down to one.... The point is - for a band we all followed forever, they've always been against pricing out the fan because they want to maintain their audiences, their true audiences....

    This comes across as gauging and doing exactly what they've fought against for all of these years... Is what it is - things change.
    Would the calculation change if ticket resale wasn’t so restricted?  

    No doubt you could have put in for the extra show and if you didn’t want to go you could have paid for the one you do go to by selling the other 

    I tend to think not being able to subsidise the shows people are actually going to is part of the frustration not just the ticket prices.

    it’s a lot of money for a show no doubt but it’s also not in doubt that those tickets are worth much more than the face value 

    i tend to be of the opinion that bands can charge what they want but a ticket holder has that same right.  Otherwise it’s just inconsistent capitalism.  The expectation that the fan has more of the responsibility to be “fair” than the band is insane 
  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,409
    PJ5a1 said:
    There is no doubt the ticket pricing was a shock. More expensive to see Ed and The Earthlings than PJ... Out of excitement, I went for the two NY shows and the one NJ show... would have cost me $1400 for all three (two tickets per show) then I said that is f'ing crazy so I went down to two - still would have been $900+, so now I am down to one.... The point is - for a band we all followed forever, they've always been against pricing out the fan because they want to maintain their audiences, their true audiences....

    This comes across as gauging and doing exactly what they've fought against for all of these years... Is what it is - things change.
    You can’t win both NY shows through 10c. Fine print.
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,409
    WishfulThinking said:
    A review of publicly available data by DecisionData.org found the average cable package costs $217.42 per month. That's more than many households pay for other utilities combined, according to the website. It also notes that cable package prices are similar regardless of the size of a household.Aug 12, 2021

    I’ll gladly give up TV for a night with Ed.
    That has to be TV/internet/phone. Anyone who is paying more than $100 just for cable should cancel immediately and just go streaming (plus Hulu or YouTube for live sports).
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited December 2021
    OceansJenny said:
    WishfulThinking said:
    A review of publicly available data by DecisionData.org found the average cable package costs $217.42 per month. That's more than many households pay for other utilities combined, according to the website. It also notes that cable package prices are similar regardless of the size of a household.Aug 12, 2021

    I’ll gladly give up TV for a night with Ed.
    That has to be TV/internet/phone. Anyone who is paying more than $100 just for cable should cancel immediately and just go streaming (plus Hulu or YouTube for live sports).
    Probably a bundle but Hulu live tv is pretty close to 100 on it’s own after taxes and fees, I know they raised prices about 4 times in the past year and a half.  Then internet has to be purchased separately for another 100.

    I stream everything and it’s not much cheaper than cable  Even without Hulu live TV once you add Netflix, Disney plus, Apple TV plus, HBO max etc and you still have nothing live (which doesn’t bother me) 

    Cable isn’t a necessity but internet probably is so people are probably 200 plus into the two no matter which way you go 

  • SR91748
    SR91748 Posts: 159
    Life is full of decisions.
  • Eddieredder
    Eddieredder Posts: 753
    edited December 2021
    Something we need to consider is venue costs have risen. They want to recoup $ from covid and are charging more. That is also a factor, its not just the artist. 

    Dave Chappelle is doing a new years show in Seattle. The best main floor seats are $380. I saw Chili Peppers main floor seats were about the same when on sale here.  
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  • ddeschler
    ddeschler Posts: 687
    edited December 2021
    PJ5a1 said: Is what it is
    I don't know when the phrase "it is what it is" entered the lexicon, but it has been a number of years.  This phrase still seems to evade me a bit, maybe because I'm old and out of touch.  Does it mean slightly different things to different people?  To me, it means "this sucks, but there's nothing you personally can do about it."  Is that right?  It's kinda like when PJ played the song Lightning Bolt at every show from 2014-18.  It is what is!
    Post edited by ddeschler on
    I've seen quite a few Pearl Jam shows.
  • SomethingCreative
    SomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,412
    jimjam1982 said:
    $85 bucks to see metallica.. tool was 125. PJ was like 120...

    Outside of Ed the earthlings are just washed old musicians who weren't even the highlights of their main band and they are asking $250 a shot for a handful of mediocre to pretty good originals and a dozen subpar covers.. yikes not even sure how this works. Can't imagine any of these sell out
    Washed old musicians?  I guess you’re so bitter you forgot who they are.  
    "Well, I think this band is incapable of sucking."
    -my dad after hearing Not for You for the first time on SNL .
  • Little Italy
    Little Italy Rochester, NY Posts: 404
    Eddieredder said:
    Something we need to consider is venue costs have risen. They want to recoup $ from covid and are charging more. That is also a factor, its not just the artist. 

    Dave Chappelle is doing a new years show in Seattle. The best main floor seats are $380. I saw Chili Peppers main floor seats were about the same when on sale here.  
    The venues are owned by Live Nation now - that’s why non- LN artists can’t perform at L N venues and vice-versa.

    PJ was forced to join because well, where else would they be able to do shows?

    but it doesn’t change the fact that yes, L N is gouging via fees (almost 40%), getting rid of set pricing and having the cost fluctuate “based on demand” etc.

    the CEO was doing a lot of press last month admitting to increasing fees etc.

    Its ALL L N & Ticketmaster, Not the venues.

    https://www.billboard.com/pro/live-nation-q3-2021-earnings-report-revenue/#!
    "he who forgets-will be destined to remember"
  • JC29866
    JC29866 Chicago Posts: 85
    compared to a Broadway show, which these concerts are now equivalent to, the prices are right on par
  • Luckytwn1
    Luckytwn1 Posts: 517
    edited December 2021
    Little Italy said:
    Eddieredder said:
    Something we need to consider is venue costs have risen. They want to recoup $ from covid and are charging more. That is also a factor, its not just the artist. 

    Dave Chappelle is doing a new years show in Seattle. The best main floor seats are $380. I saw Chili Peppers main floor seats were about the same when on sale here.  
    The venues are owned by Live Nation now - that’s why non- LN artists can’t perform at L N venues and vice-versa.

    PJ was forced to join because well, where else would they be able to do shows?


    This is completely wrong and not how it works. Many artists don’t have exclusive deals with Live Nation and play Live Nation affiliated venues all the time and vice versa with AEG. There are also local promoters like Goldenvoice in Los Angeles that are in the mix. There are occasional turf wars like the AEG/MSG thing that happened a couple of years back but that’s not the norm.  

    As far as pricing of tickets, LN has presented its dynamic pricing matrix to acts and it is up to the act whether they want to use it. For example, while other big rock acts use platinum/VIP tickets liberally with thousands of tickets in the mix, Pearl Jam only allowed the use of platinum ticketing for the charity tickets in arenas. Of course, this will impact what an act receives contractually in terms of a guarantee. 
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