Organized robberies in L.A. Hints of societal breakdown?

tempo_n_groove · November 2021

Societal breakdown? Possibly. People are getting smarter, or dumber on how blatant they can be.

I have noticed an increase in mini bikes and people riding w no helmets. That is a law here in NY.
Something else that is going up is mini bike crime. Organized hits or robberies using them as getaway vehicles.
The smash and grabs have always happened just not as frequent now. You have a lot of copycats that see that and think they can do it too.

With the ease of penalties on theft there have been organized walmart and other store "walkouts". They load up there carts and just walk out. If they get caught they are just let go nowadays.

With everything being videoed and everyone always w a phone in their hand these things are being filmed more for more people to see.

JeBurkhardt · November 2021

It is nothing new, it has happened sporadically in the past. I grew up in the SF Bay Area and remember it happening a few times at a mall, amusement parks and county fairs. Large groups of teenagers and young adults grabbing merchandise and then fleeing. The lack of social media back then kept it localized. Now someone does it in California, and someone else sees it online and gets the idea to do it it at their location and it becomes a trend.

tempo_n_groove · November 2021

JeBurkhardt said:

It is nothing new, it has happened sporadically in the past. I grew up in the SF Bay Area and remember it happening a few times at a mall, amusement parks and county fairs. Large groups of teenagers and young adults grabbing merchandise and then fleeing. The lack of social media back then kept it localized. Now someone does it in California, and someone else sees it online and gets the idea to do it it at their location and it becomes a trend.

it goes viral.... Yeah man, let's go steal too!

brianlux · November 2021

tempo_n_groove said:

Societal breakdown? Possibly. People are getting smarter, or dumber on how blatant they can be.

I have noticed an increase in mini bikes and people riding w no helmets. That is a law here in NY.
Something else that is going up is mini bike crime. Organized hits or robberies using them as getaway vehicles.
The smash and grabs have always happened just not as frequent now. You have a lot of copycats that see that and think they can do it too.

With the ease of penalties on theft there have been organized walmart and other store "walkouts". They load up there carts and just walk out. If they get caught they are just let go nowadays.

With everything being videoed and everyone always w a phone in their hand these things are being filmed more for more people to see.

Your comment about more video camera and phones is interesting. On the one hand, video security devices are going to assist in capturing more criminals. On the other hand, they are becoming more common and I'm beginning to think that is not just because they are more available. I think they are becoming more necessary. A friend of mine, for example, who is a level headed person not prone to dramatizing, paranoia, or fads, recently installed five video surveillance cameras around his house because theft is on the rise here- and this is just little Podunk Placerville, not some typical big inner city crime ridden town. He agrees with my notion that society is beginning to become unhinged and crime and chaos is on the increase.

And honestly, if he and I are wrong.... great! But I'm not betting on it.

OnWis97 · November 2021

HughFreakingDillon said:

I don't see this as a societal collapse.

"You know what I blame this on the breakdown of? Society."
--Moe Szyslak

Gern Blansten · November 2021

It's just an evolution in crime. They have been done before, just not in such quick succession I think.

brianlux · November 2021

Gern Blansten said:

It's just an evolution in crime. They have been done before, just not in such quick succession I think.

I can't see it as "just". I grew up in suburban Bay Area south of San Francisco in the 50's. I don't think anyone in the neighborhood kept their doors locked. We didn't. Us kids on our block used to wander into the homes of other kid's we knew. When we went away for a day or two, we kept the doors unlocked.
And then one day we came home and we had been robbed. That felt like the end of innocence to me. And now everyone locks their doors and people have video surveillance around their house. What a sad deal all this is.

Gern Blansten · November 2021

brianlux said:

Gern Blansten said:

It's just an evolution in crime. They have been done before, just not in such quick succession I think.

I can't see it as "just". I grew up in suburban Bay Area south of San Francisco in the 50's. I don't think anyone in the neighborhood kept their doors locked. We didn't. Us kids on our block used to wander into the homes of other kid's we knew. When we went away for a day or two, we kept the doors unlocked.
And then one day we came home and we had been robbed. That felt like the end of innocence to me. And now everyone locks their doors and people have video surveillance around their house. What a sad deal all this is.

By "just" I mean that stores will adjust to help prevent such things. Which is the way most things go...we adapt to change.

brianlux · November 2021

Gern Blansten said:

brianlux said:

Gern Blansten said:

It's just an evolution in crime. They have been done before, just not in such quick succession I think.

I can't see it as "just". I grew up in suburban Bay Area south of San Francisco in the 50's. I don't think anyone in the neighborhood kept their doors locked. We didn't. Us kids on our block used to wander into the homes of other kid's we knew. When we went away for a day or two, we kept the doors unlocked.
And then one day we came home and we had been robbed. That felt like the end of innocence to me. And now everyone locks their doors and people have video surveillance around their house. What a sad deal all this is.

By "just" I mean that stores will adjust to help prevent such things. Which is the way most things go...we adapt to change.

That they must do that is something that disturbs me.

HughFreakingDillon · November 2021

brianlux said:

Gern Blansten said:

brianlux said:

Gern Blansten said:

It's just an evolution in crime. They have been done before, just not in such quick succession I think.

I can't see it as "just". I grew up in suburban Bay Area south of San Francisco in the 50's. I don't think anyone in the neighborhood kept their doors locked. We didn't. Us kids on our block used to wander into the homes of other kid's we knew. When we went away for a day or two, we kept the doors unlocked.
And then one day we came home and we had been robbed. That felt like the end of innocence to me. And now everyone locks their doors and people have video surveillance around their house. What a sad deal all this is.

By "just" I mean that stores will adjust to help prevent such things. Which is the way most things go...we adapt to change.

That they must do that is something that disturbs me.

I think putting all this in context is important. Overall crime is at a nearly 40 year low. That includes violent and property. The advent of 24 hour and global news, along with social media and everyone with a camera in their hand, lends to the perception that things are getting worse, when they aren't. you're just more aware of what's going on because of the barrage of recordings and the media's bottom line being heavily influenced by reporting on what captures people. it isn't puff pieces about a local dog shelter.

https://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

brianlux · November 2021

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

Gern Blansten said:

brianlux said:

Gern Blansten said:

It's just an evolution in crime. They have been done before, just not in such quick succession I think.

I can't see it as "just". I grew up in suburban Bay Area south of San Francisco in the 50's. I don't think anyone in the neighborhood kept their doors locked. We didn't. Us kids on our block used to wander into the homes of other kid's we knew. When we went away for a day or two, we kept the doors unlocked.
And then one day we came home and we had been robbed. That felt like the end of innocence to me. And now everyone locks their doors and people have video surveillance around their house. What a sad deal all this is.

By "just" I mean that stores will adjust to help prevent such things. Which is the way most things go...we adapt to change.

That they must do that is something that disturbs me.

I think putting all this in context is important. Overall crime is at a nearly 40 year low. That includes violent and property. The advent of 24 hour and global news, along with social media and everyone with a camera in their hand, lends to the perception that things are getting worse, when they aren't. you're just more aware of what's going on because of the barrage of recordings and the media's bottom line being heavily influenced by reporting on what captures people. it isn't puff pieces about a local dog shelter.

https://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

I hope so, my friend. I'm all in favor of a better world, not a worse one!

Halifax2TheMax · December 2021

Sure does seem like nothing is being done about it and there are no consequences.

14 arrested in connection to smash-and-grab thefts in Southern California, authorities say

LOS ANGELES — The Los Angeles Police Department announced Thursday more than a dozen arrests after a series of smash-and-grab thefts across the city in recent weeks where nearly $340,000 worth of merchandise was stolen.

Fourteen people were arrested in connection with 11 brazen robberies between Nov. 18 and 28, and all are out of custody, police Chief Michel Moore said. Most bailed out or met no-bail criteria, and one is a juvenile, he said.

Gascón’s office said in a statement Thursday that those who commit smash-and-grab thefts will be held accountable.

“Our office has been collaborating with multiple law enforcement agencies and once all the evidence has been gathered, we will review the cases to determine what criminal charges should be filed,” Alex Bastian, special advisor to Gascón, said in the statement. “These brazen acts hurt all of us: retailers, employees and customers alike.”

San Francisco District Attorney Chesa Boudin last week announced felony charges against nine people for a series of thefts, and Bay Area prosecutors announced a joint effort to combat organized retail theft.

In the Bay Area, the City Council in Walnut Creek this week approved an additional $2 million for policing after nearly 100 thieves wearing ski masks carried out a smash-and-grab mob robbery at a Nordstrom store in November. An estimated $125,000 in merchandise was stolen.

14 arrested in connection to smash-and-grab thefts in Southern California, authorities say (msn.com)

nicknyr15 · December 2021

Halifax2TheMax said:

Sure does seem like nothing is being done about it and there are no consequences.

14 arrested in connection to smash-and-grab thefts in Southern California, authorities say
LOS ANGELES — The Los Angeles Police Department announced Thursday more than a dozen arrests after a series of smash-and-grab thefts across the city in recent weeks where nearly $340,000 worth of merchandise was stolen.

Fourteen people were arrested in connection with 11 brazen robberies between Nov. 18 and 28, and all are out of custody, police Chief Michel Moore said. Most bailed out or met no-bail criteria, and one is a juvenile, he said.

Gascón’s office said in a statement Thursday that those who commit smash-and-grab thefts will be held accountable.
“Our office has been collaborating with multiple law enforcement agencies and once all the evidence has been gathered, we will review the cases to determine what criminal charges should be filed,” Alex Bastian, special advisor to Gascón, said in the statement. “These brazen acts hurt all of us: retailers, employees and customers alike.”
San Francisco District Attorney Chesa Boudin last week announced felony charges against nine people for a series of thefts, and Bay Area prosecutors announced a joint effort to combat organized retail theft.
In the Bay Area, the City Council in Walnut Creek this week approved an additional $2 million for policing after nearly 100 thieves wearing ski masks carried out a smash-and-grab mob robbery at a Nordstrom store in November. An estimated $125,000 in merchandise was stolen.

14 arrested in connection to smash-and-grab thefts in Southern California, authorities say (msn.com)

Problem solved. I’m sure they’ll all learn their lesson.

Halifax2TheMax · December 2021

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Sure does seem like nothing is being done about it and there are no consequences.

14 arrested in connection to smash-and-grab thefts in Southern California, authorities say
LOS ANGELES — The Los Angeles Police Department announced Thursday more than a dozen arrests after a series of smash-and-grab thefts across the city in recent weeks where nearly $340,000 worth of merchandise was stolen.

Fourteen people were arrested in connection with 11 brazen robberies between Nov. 18 and 28, and all are out of custody, police Chief Michel Moore said. Most bailed out or met no-bail criteria, and one is a juvenile, he said.

Gascón’s office said in a statement Thursday that those who commit smash-and-grab thefts will be held accountable.
“Our office has been collaborating with multiple law enforcement agencies and once all the evidence has been gathered, we will review the cases to determine what criminal charges should be filed,” Alex Bastian, special advisor to Gascón, said in the statement. “These brazen acts hurt all of us: retailers, employees and customers alike.”
San Francisco District Attorney Chesa Boudin last week announced felony charges against nine people for a series of thefts, and Bay Area prosecutors announced a joint effort to combat organized retail theft.
In the Bay Area, the City Council in Walnut Creek this week approved an additional $2 million for policing after nearly 100 thieves wearing ski masks carried out a smash-and-grab mob robbery at a Nordstrom store in November. An estimated $125,000 in merchandise was stolen.

14 arrested in connection to smash-and-grab thefts in Southern California, authorities say (msn.com)

Problem solved. I’m sure they’ll all learn their lesson.

Who said anything about “problem solved?” A few posts were lamenting that nothing would be done and that there’d be no consequences though. Funny that.

brianlux · December 2021

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Sure does seem like nothing is being done about it and there are no consequences.

14 arrested in connection to smash-and-grab thefts in Southern California, authorities say
LOS ANGELES — The Los Angeles Police Department announced Thursday more than a dozen arrests after a series of smash-and-grab thefts across the city in recent weeks where nearly $340,000 worth of merchandise was stolen.

Fourteen people were arrested in connection with 11 brazen robberies between Nov. 18 and 28, and all are out of custody, police Chief Michel Moore said. Most bailed out or met no-bail criteria, and one is a juvenile, he said.

Gascón’s office said in a statement Thursday that those who commit smash-and-grab thefts will be held accountable.
“Our office has been collaborating with multiple law enforcement agencies and once all the evidence has been gathered, we will review the cases to determine what criminal charges should be filed,” Alex Bastian, special advisor to Gascón, said in the statement. “These brazen acts hurt all of us: retailers, employees and customers alike.”
San Francisco District Attorney Chesa Boudin last week announced felony charges against nine people for a series of thefts, and Bay Area prosecutors announced a joint effort to combat organized retail theft.
In the Bay Area, the City Council in Walnut Creek this week approved an additional $2 million for policing after nearly 100 thieves wearing ski masks carried out a smash-and-grab mob robbery at a Nordstrom store in November. An estimated $125,000 in merchandise was stolen.

14 arrested in connection to smash-and-grab thefts in Southern California, authorities say (msn.com)

Problem solved. I’m sure they’ll all learn their lesson.

Who said anything about “problem solved?” A few posts were lamenting that nothing would be done and that there’d be no consequences though. Funny that.

I think he had to have been joking... right, Nick?

nicknyr15 · December 2021

brianlux said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Sure does seem like nothing is being done about it and there are no consequences.

14 arrested in connection to smash-and-grab thefts in Southern California, authorities say
LOS ANGELES — The Los Angeles Police Department announced Thursday more than a dozen arrests after a series of smash-and-grab thefts across the city in recent weeks where nearly $340,000 worth of merchandise was stolen.

Fourteen people were arrested in connection with 11 brazen robberies between Nov. 18 and 28, and all are out of custody, police Chief Michel Moore said. Most bailed out or met no-bail criteria, and one is a juvenile, he said.

Gascón’s office said in a statement Thursday that those who commit smash-and-grab thefts will be held accountable.
“Our office has been collaborating with multiple law enforcement agencies and once all the evidence has been gathered, we will review the cases to determine what criminal charges should be filed,” Alex Bastian, special advisor to Gascón, said in the statement. “These brazen acts hurt all of us: retailers, employees and customers alike.”
San Francisco District Attorney Chesa Boudin last week announced felony charges against nine people for a series of thefts, and Bay Area prosecutors announced a joint effort to combat organized retail theft.
In the Bay Area, the City Council in Walnut Creek this week approved an additional $2 million for policing after nearly 100 thieves wearing ski masks carried out a smash-and-grab mob robbery at a Nordstrom store in November. An estimated $125,000 in merchandise was stolen.

14 arrested in connection to smash-and-grab thefts in Southern California, authorities say (msn.com)

Problem solved. I’m sure they’ll all learn their lesson.

Who said anything about “problem solved?” A few posts were lamenting that nothing would be done and that there’d be no consequences though. Funny that.

I think he had to have been joking... right, Nick?

Not joking. There’s little consequence to their action, which I’m sure they knew before hand. Plus it looks like the Bay Area is refunding the police to combat this. This article seems to confirm all this, unless I’m misunderstanding?

hedonist · December 2021

A chi-chi restaurant I regularly pass by on my walks was robbed last night. Guys pull up, guns drawn, take shit from a patron and boom. Gone!

It’s pretty much a regular thing here now, unfortunately.

This is the general feeling of those around my neighborhood toward this and similar situations.

F Me In The Brain · December 2021

Was it Brad Pitt?

brianlux · December 2021

nicknyr15 said:

brianlux said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Who said anything about “problem solved?” A few posts were lamenting that nothing would be done and that there’d be no consequences though. Funny that.

I think he had to have been joking... right, Nick?

Not joking. There’s little consequence to their action, which I’m sure they knew before hand. Plus it looks like the Bay Area is refunding the police to combat this. This article seems to confirm all this, unless I’m misunderstanding?

I certainly hope you are right. It would be great to see these robberies and thefts diminish just like it would be great to see corporate theft diminish. Of course, that's about as likely as wishing to win the lottery four times.

nicknyr15 · December 2021

brianlux said:

nicknyr15 said:

brianlux said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Who said anything about “problem solved?” A few posts were lamenting that nothing would be done and that there’d be no consequences though. Funny that.

I think he had to have been joking... right, Nick?

Not joking. There’s little consequence to their action, which I’m sure they knew before hand. Plus it looks like the Bay Area is refunding the police to combat this. This article seems to confirm all this, unless I’m misunderstanding?

I certainly hope you are right. It would be great to see these robberies and thefts diminish just like it would be great to see corporate theft diminish. Of course, that's about as likely as wishing to win the lottery four times.

I hear ya! The problem here is every time I bring something up I feel like people get so politically defensive. I don’t live in a red state or in a rural area and probably never will not for any other reason than preference for city life. It’d be nice to have discussions without people getting so defensive politically that they need to search for a rebuttal instead of honestly discussing an obvious problem.

Organized robberies in L.A. Hints of societal breakdown?

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