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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,211
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
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    brianlux said:
    Awesome, thanks Kat. 
    Infrastructure bill signed by Biden allocates at least 9 billion to Mass and transportation advocates have ideas on how to spend it - The Boston Globe
    President Biden signs infrastructure bill! 
    Previous guy spent four years talking about infrastructure...Joe gets it done in 10 months. 
    This is disingenuous.  While it is a great hot take on owning Trump, we have yet to see how the money will be spent, if it will be wasteful and if it will deliver as advertised.  Sure the bill outlines how the money will be spent, but seeing is believing.  Joe did sign an infrastructure bill in 10 months and I won't criticize that progress, but infrastructure is far from "done".
    Nothing I said is "disingenuous." If you think I implied that roads and bridges were already fixed, I just don't know what to tell you. 

    This is part of the problem with the dem base. They expect change to happen overnight. That is not the way things work...especially for a bill like this that will take years for people to actually see the results. Getting this bipartisan bill done is a HUGE accomplishment. 


    Not sure where I said that I expected new roads and bridges to instantaneously materialize, maybe you can enlighten me?   As far as celebrating the signing of a bill, sorry that's not for me.  We have no proof yet that this doesn't become a wasteful spending bill vs a bill that delivers results.  It could still go either way once the funds start getting disbursed. I'm cautiously hopeful.  If we don't see any progress besides money being spent it will play into the "Democrats just want to spend your money" narrative.  Celebrating this is like slow walking to the endzone and getting creamed before the touchdown.  When asphalt  and steel columns, beams, rails, new electrical grids start getting put down I will be celebrating just as much as the next guy.  

    I signed the infrastructure bill doesn't get votes if people don't see the work getting done.  I know for some Yellow Dogs on here the he's not Trump or whatever is enough, but for most people spending that kind of money and not seeing results is a big deal.  In 2-3 years when there is proof that this money is going to infrastructure I will celebrate and say Biden got it done.  
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  • The Juggler
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    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    brianlux said:
    Awesome, thanks Kat. 
    Infrastructure bill signed by Biden allocates at least 9 billion to Mass and transportation advocates have ideas on how to spend it - The Boston Globe
    President Biden signs infrastructure bill! 
    Previous guy spent four years talking about infrastructure...Joe gets it done in 10 months. 
    This is disingenuous.  While it is a great hot take on owning Trump, we have yet to see how the money will be spent, if it will be wasteful and if it will deliver as advertised.  Sure the bill outlines how the money will be spent, but seeing is believing.  Joe did sign an infrastructure bill in 10 months and I won't criticize that progress, but infrastructure is far from "done".
    Nothing I said is "disingenuous." If you think I implied that roads and bridges were already fixed, I just don't know what to tell you. 

    This is part of the problem with the dem base. They expect change to happen overnight. That is not the way things work...especially for a bill like this that will take years for people to actually see the results. Getting this bipartisan bill done is a HUGE accomplishment. 


    Not sure where I said that I expected new roads and bridges to instantaneously materialize, maybe you can enlighten me?   As far as celebrating the signing of a bill, sorry that's not for me.  We have no proof yet that this doesn't become a wasteful spending bill vs a bill that delivers results.  It could still go either way once the funds start getting disbursed. I'm cautiously hopeful.  If we don't see any progress besides money being spent it will play into the "Democrats just want to spend your money" narrative.  Celebrating this is like slow walking to the endzone and getting creamed before the touchdown.  When asphalt  and steel columns, beams, rails, new electrical grids start getting put down I will be celebrating just as much as the next guy.  

    I signed the infrastructure bill doesn't get votes if people don't see the work getting done.  I know for some Yellow Dogs on here the he's not Trump or whatever is enough, but for most people spending that kind of money and not seeing results is a big deal.  In 2-3 years when there is proof that this money is going to infrastructure I will celebrate and say Biden got it done.  
    lol

    Some people will just never be satisfied I guess. 
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,211
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    brianlux said:
    Awesome, thanks Kat. 
    Infrastructure bill signed by Biden allocates at least 9 billion to Mass and transportation advocates have ideas on how to spend it - The Boston Globe
    President Biden signs infrastructure bill! 
    Previous guy spent four years talking about infrastructure...Joe gets it done in 10 months. 
    This is disingenuous.  While it is a great hot take on owning Trump, we have yet to see how the money will be spent, if it will be wasteful and if it will deliver as advertised.  Sure the bill outlines how the money will be spent, but seeing is believing.  Joe did sign an infrastructure bill in 10 months and I won't criticize that progress, but infrastructure is far from "done".
    Nothing I said is "disingenuous." If you think I implied that roads and bridges were already fixed, I just don't know what to tell you. 

    This is part of the problem with the dem base. They expect change to happen overnight. That is not the way things work...especially for a bill like this that will take years for people to actually see the results. Getting this bipartisan bill done is a HUGE accomplishment. 


    Not sure where I said that I expected new roads and bridges to instantaneously materialize, maybe you can enlighten me?   As far as celebrating the signing of a bill, sorry that's not for me.  We have no proof yet that this doesn't become a wasteful spending bill vs a bill that delivers results.  It could still go either way once the funds start getting disbursed. I'm cautiously hopeful.  If we don't see any progress besides money being spent it will play into the "Democrats just want to spend your money" narrative.  Celebrating this is like slow walking to the endzone and getting creamed before the touchdown.  When asphalt  and steel columns, beams, rails, new electrical grids start getting put down I will be celebrating just as much as the next guy.  

    I signed the infrastructure bill doesn't get votes if people don't see the work getting done.  I know for some Yellow Dogs on here the he's not Trump or whatever is enough, but for most people spending that kind of money and not seeing results is a big deal.  In 2-3 years when there is proof that this money is going to infrastructure I will celebrate and say Biden got it done.  
    lol

    Some people will just never be satisfied I guess. 
    Like I said, when people start getting paid to tear up old roads, grade new ones and dig up pipes with minimal waste spending I will be happy.  That's what is promised in this bill right?  I don't think that is a large ask before I decide to be happy with the bill.
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  • The Juggler
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    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    brianlux said:
    Awesome, thanks Kat. 
    Infrastructure bill signed by Biden allocates at least 9 billion to Mass and transportation advocates have ideas on how to spend it - The Boston Globe
    President Biden signs infrastructure bill! 
    Previous guy spent four years talking about infrastructure...Joe gets it done in 10 months. 
    This is disingenuous.  While it is a great hot take on owning Trump, we have yet to see how the money will be spent, if it will be wasteful and if it will deliver as advertised.  Sure the bill outlines how the money will be spent, but seeing is believing.  Joe did sign an infrastructure bill in 10 months and I won't criticize that progress, but infrastructure is far from "done".
    Nothing I said is "disingenuous." If you think I implied that roads and bridges were already fixed, I just don't know what to tell you. 

    This is part of the problem with the dem base. They expect change to happen overnight. That is not the way things work...especially for a bill like this that will take years for people to actually see the results. Getting this bipartisan bill done is a HUGE accomplishment. 


    Not sure where I said that I expected new roads and bridges to instantaneously materialize, maybe you can enlighten me?   As far as celebrating the signing of a bill, sorry that's not for me.  We have no proof yet that this doesn't become a wasteful spending bill vs a bill that delivers results.  It could still go either way once the funds start getting disbursed. I'm cautiously hopeful.  If we don't see any progress besides money being spent it will play into the "Democrats just want to spend your money" narrative.  Celebrating this is like slow walking to the endzone and getting creamed before the touchdown.  When asphalt  and steel columns, beams, rails, new electrical grids start getting put down I will be celebrating just as much as the next guy.  

    I signed the infrastructure bill doesn't get votes if people don't see the work getting done.  I know for some Yellow Dogs on here the he's not Trump or whatever is enough, but for most people spending that kind of money and not seeing results is a big deal.  In 2-3 years when there is proof that this money is going to infrastructure I will celebrate and say Biden got it done.  
    lol

    Some people will just never be satisfied I guess. 
    Like I said, when people start getting paid to tear up old roads, grade new ones and dig up pipes with minimal waste spending I will be happy.  That's what is promised in this bill right?  I don't think that is a large ask before I decide to be happy with the bill.
    Damn those fools in the 60's for celebrating the Civil Rights Act before bathrooms were actually physically desegregated. 

    By your reasoning literally nothing a president does should be celebrated in real time. Illogical. But go ahead man, get excited in 2025. lol
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  • Kat
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    My 2 cents. For the previous guy, infrastructure week was just another hustle.
    For Joe, it was a goal.
    We sure do need repairs to our infrastructure. My hope is that we have honest oversight because so many processes have become so corrupted over many years. It won't happen quickly but it has to be a goal.
    2 cents spent.
    Have a great week, all.
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  • Merkin Baller
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    Kat said:
    My 2 cents. For the previous guy, infrastructure week was just another hustle.
    For Joe, it was a goal.
    We sure do need repairs to our infrastructure. My hope is that we have honest oversight because so many processes have become so corrupted over many years. It won't happen quickly but it has to be a goal.
    2 cents spent.
    Have a great week, all.
    Hustle indeed, I don't think the prior administration ever wanted to pass an infrastructure bill, that would suggest the federal government is working. 

  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,211
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    brianlux said:
    Awesome, thanks Kat. 
    Infrastructure bill signed by Biden allocates at least 9 billion to Mass and transportation advocates have ideas on how to spend it - The Boston Globe
    President Biden signs infrastructure bill! 
    Previous guy spent four years talking about infrastructure...Joe gets it done in 10 months. 
    This is disingenuous.  While it is a great hot take on owning Trump, we have yet to see how the money will be spent, if it will be wasteful and if it will deliver as advertised.  Sure the bill outlines how the money will be spent, but seeing is believing.  Joe did sign an infrastructure bill in 10 months and I won't criticize that progress, but infrastructure is far from "done".
    Nothing I said is "disingenuous." If you think I implied that roads and bridges were already fixed, I just don't know what to tell you. 

    This is part of the problem with the dem base. They expect change to happen overnight. That is not the way things work...especially for a bill like this that will take years for people to actually see the results. Getting this bipartisan bill done is a HUGE accomplishment. 


    Not sure where I said that I expected new roads and bridges to instantaneously materialize, maybe you can enlighten me?   As far as celebrating the signing of a bill, sorry that's not for me.  We have no proof yet that this doesn't become a wasteful spending bill vs a bill that delivers results.  It could still go either way once the funds start getting disbursed. I'm cautiously hopeful.  If we don't see any progress besides money being spent it will play into the "Democrats just want to spend your money" narrative.  Celebrating this is like slow walking to the endzone and getting creamed before the touchdown.  When asphalt  and steel columns, beams, rails, new electrical grids start getting put down I will be celebrating just as much as the next guy.  

    I signed the infrastructure bill doesn't get votes if people don't see the work getting done.  I know for some Yellow Dogs on here the he's not Trump or whatever is enough, but for most people spending that kind of money and not seeing results is a big deal.  In 2-3 years when there is proof that this money is going to infrastructure I will celebrate and say Biden got it done.  
    lol

    Some people will just never be satisfied I guess. 
    Like I said, when people start getting paid to tear up old roads, grade new ones and dig up pipes with minimal waste spending I will be happy.  That's what is promised in this bill right?  I don't think that is a large ask before I decide to be happy with the bill.
    Damn those fools in the 60's for celebrating the Civil Rights Act before bathrooms were actually physically desegregated. 

    By your reasoning literally nothing a president does should be celebrated in real time. Illogical. But go ahead man, get excited in 2025. lol
    Civil rights bill became law immediately.  Infrastructure is a spending package, hardly the same thing.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    edited November 2021
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    brianlux said:
    Awesome, thanks Kat. 
    Infrastructure bill signed by Biden allocates at least 9 billion to Mass and transportation advocates have ideas on how to spend it - The Boston Globe
    President Biden signs infrastructure bill! 
    Previous guy spent four years talking about infrastructure...Joe gets it done in 10 months. 
    This is disingenuous.  While it is a great hot take on owning Trump, we have yet to see how the money will be spent, if it will be wasteful and if it will deliver as advertised.  Sure the bill outlines how the money will be spent, but seeing is believing.  Joe did sign an infrastructure bill in 10 months and I won't criticize that progress, but infrastructure is far from "done".
    Nothing I said is "disingenuous." If you think I implied that roads and bridges were already fixed, I just don't know what to tell you. 

    This is part of the problem with the dem base. They expect change to happen overnight. That is not the way things work...especially for a bill like this that will take years for people to actually see the results. Getting this bipartisan bill done is a HUGE accomplishment. 


    Not sure where I said that I expected new roads and bridges to instantaneously materialize, maybe you can enlighten me?   As far as celebrating the signing of a bill, sorry that's not for me.  We have no proof yet that this doesn't become a wasteful spending bill vs a bill that delivers results.  It could still go either way once the funds start getting disbursed. I'm cautiously hopeful.  If we don't see any progress besides money being spent it will play into the "Democrats just want to spend your money" narrative.  Celebrating this is like slow walking to the endzone and getting creamed before the touchdown.  When asphalt  and steel columns, beams, rails, new electrical grids start getting put down I will be celebrating just as much as the next guy.  

    I signed the infrastructure bill doesn't get votes if people don't see the work getting done.  I know for some Yellow Dogs on here the he's not Trump or whatever is enough, but for most people spending that kind of money and not seeing results is a big deal.  In 2-3 years when there is proof that this money is going to infrastructure I will celebrate and say Biden got it done.  
    lol

    Some people will just never be satisfied I guess. 
    Like I said, when people start getting paid to tear up old roads, grade new ones and dig up pipes with minimal waste spending I will be happy.  That's what is promised in this bill right?  I don't think that is a large ask before I decide to be happy with the bill.
    Damn those fools in the 60's for celebrating the Civil Rights Act before bathrooms were actually physically desegregated. 

    By your reasoning literally nothing a president does should be celebrated in real time. Illogical. But go ahead man, get excited in 2025. lol
    Civil rights bill became law immediately.  Infrastructure is a spending package, hardly the same thing.
    That thing Biden did yesterday with his pen, where he wrote his name....that made his infrastructure bill into a law. It's literally a law now. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    brianlux said:
    Awesome, thanks Kat. 
    Infrastructure bill signed by Biden allocates at least 9 billion to Mass and transportation advocates have ideas on how to spend it - The Boston Globe
    President Biden signs infrastructure bill! 
    Previous guy spent four years talking about infrastructure...Joe gets it done in 10 months. 
    This is disingenuous.  While it is a great hot take on owning Trump, we have yet to see how the money will be spent, if it will be wasteful and if it will deliver as advertised.  Sure the bill outlines how the money will be spent, but seeing is believing.  Joe did sign an infrastructure bill in 10 months and I won't criticize that progress, but infrastructure is far from "done".
    Nothing I said is "disingenuous." If you think I implied that roads and bridges were already fixed, I just don't know what to tell you. 

    This is part of the problem with the dem base. They expect change to happen overnight. That is not the way things work...especially for a bill like this that will take years for people to actually see the results. Getting this bipartisan bill done is a HUGE accomplishment. 


    Not sure where I said that I expected new roads and bridges to instantaneously materialize, maybe you can enlighten me?   As far as celebrating the signing of a bill, sorry that's not for me.  We have no proof yet that this doesn't become a wasteful spending bill vs a bill that delivers results.  It could still go either way once the funds start getting disbursed. I'm cautiously hopeful.  If we don't see any progress besides money being spent it will play into the "Democrats just want to spend your money" narrative.  Celebrating this is like slow walking to the endzone and getting creamed before the touchdown.  When asphalt  and steel columns, beams, rails, new electrical grids start getting put down I will be celebrating just as much as the next guy.  

    I signed the infrastructure bill doesn't get votes if people don't see the work getting done.  I know for some Yellow Dogs on here the he's not Trump or whatever is enough, but for most people spending that kind of money and not seeing results is a big deal.  In 2-3 years when there is proof that this money is going to infrastructure I will celebrate and say Biden got it done.  
    lol

    Some people will just never be satisfied I guess. 
    Like I said, when people start getting paid to tear up old roads, grade new ones and dig up pipes with minimal waste spending I will be happy.  That's what is promised in this bill right?  I don't think that is a large ask before I decide to be happy with the bill.
    Damn those fools in the 60's for celebrating the Civil Rights Act before bathrooms were actually physically desegregated. 

    By your reasoning literally nothing a president does should be celebrated in real time. Illogical. But go ahead man, get excited in 2025. lol
    Civil rights bill became law immediately.  Infrastructure is a spending package, hardly the same thing.
    And did things change overnight? Hell, it’s been 56 years and some shit still hasn’t changed despite that bill.
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  • benjs
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    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
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    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    brianlux said:
    Awesome, thanks Kat. 
    Infrastructure bill signed by Biden allocates at least 9 billion to Mass and transportation advocates have ideas on how to spend it - The Boston Globe
    President Biden signs infrastructure bill! 
    Previous guy spent four years talking about infrastructure...Joe gets it done in 10 months. 
    This is disingenuous.  While it is a great hot take on owning Trump, we have yet to see how the money will be spent, if it will be wasteful and if it will deliver as advertised.  Sure the bill outlines how the money will be spent, but seeing is believing.  Joe did sign an infrastructure bill in 10 months and I won't criticize that progress, but infrastructure is far from "done".
    Nothing I said is "disingenuous." If you think I implied that roads and bridges were already fixed, I just don't know what to tell you. 

    This is part of the problem with the dem base. They expect change to happen overnight. That is not the way things work...especially for a bill like this that will take years for people to actually see the results. Getting this bipartisan bill done is a HUGE accomplishment. 


    Not sure where I said that I expected new roads and bridges to instantaneously materialize, maybe you can enlighten me?   As far as celebrating the signing of a bill, sorry that's not for me.  We have no proof yet that this doesn't become a wasteful spending bill vs a bill that delivers results.  It could still go either way once the funds start getting disbursed. I'm cautiously hopeful.  If we don't see any progress besides money being spent it will play into the "Democrats just want to spend your money" narrative.  Celebrating this is like slow walking to the endzone and getting creamed before the touchdown.  When asphalt  and steel columns, beams, rails, new electrical grids start getting put down I will be celebrating just as much as the next guy.  

    I signed the infrastructure bill doesn't get votes if people don't see the work getting done.  I know for some Yellow Dogs on here the he's not Trump or whatever is enough, but for most people spending that kind of money and not seeing results is a big deal.  In 2-3 years when there is proof that this money is going to infrastructure I will celebrate and say Biden got it done.  
    lol

    Some people will just never be satisfied I guess. 
    Like I said, when people start getting paid to tear up old roads, grade new ones and dig up pipes with minimal waste spending I will be happy.  That's what is promised in this bill right?  I don't think that is a large ask before I decide to be happy with the bill.
    Damn those fools in the 60's for celebrating the Civil Rights Act before bathrooms were actually physically desegregated. 

    By your reasoning literally nothing a president does should be celebrated in real time. Illogical. But go ahead man, get excited in 2025. lol
    Civil rights bill became law immediately.  Infrastructure is a spending package, hardly the same thing.
    Civil rights are the analogy you want to use for how things can be turned around overnight with the passing of a bill? Is that a joke?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,033
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    brianlux said:
    Awesome, thanks Kat. 
    Infrastructure bill signed by Biden allocates at least 9 billion to Mass and transportation advocates have ideas on how to spend it - The Boston Globe
    President Biden signs infrastructure bill! 
    Previous guy spent four years talking about infrastructure...Joe gets it done in 10 months. 
    This is disingenuous.  While it is a great hot take on owning Trump, we have yet to see how the money will be spent, if it will be wasteful and if it will deliver as advertised.  Sure the bill outlines how the money will be spent, but seeing is believing.  Joe did sign an infrastructure bill in 10 months and I won't criticize that progress, but infrastructure is far from "done".
    Nothing I said is "disingenuous." If you think I implied that roads and bridges were already fixed, I just don't know what to tell you. 

    This is part of the problem with the dem base. They expect change to happen overnight. That is not the way things work...especially for a bill like this that will take years for people to actually see the results. Getting this bipartisan bill done is a HUGE accomplishment. 


    Not sure where I said that I expected new roads and bridges to instantaneously materialize, maybe you can enlighten me?   As far as celebrating the signing of a bill, sorry that's not for me.  We have no proof yet that this doesn't become a wasteful spending bill vs a bill that delivers results.  It could still go either way once the funds start getting disbursed. I'm cautiously hopeful.  If we don't see any progress besides money being spent it will play into the "Democrats just want to spend your money" narrative.  Celebrating this is like slow walking to the endzone and getting creamed before the touchdown.  When asphalt  and steel columns, beams, rails, new electrical grids start getting put down I will be celebrating just as much as the next guy.  

    I signed the infrastructure bill doesn't get votes if people don't see the work getting done.  I know for some Yellow Dogs on here the he's not Trump or whatever is enough, but for most people spending that kind of money and not seeing results is a big deal.  In 2-3 years when there is proof that this money is going to infrastructure I will celebrate and say Biden got it done.  
    lol

    Some people will just never be satisfied I guess. 
    Like I said, when people start getting paid to tear up old roads, grade new ones and dig up pipes with minimal waste spending I will be happy.  That's what is promised in this bill right?  I don't think that is a large ask before I decide to be happy with the bill.
    Damn those fools in the 60's for celebrating the Civil Rights Act before bathrooms were actually physically desegregated. 

    By your reasoning literally nothing a president does should be celebrated in real time. Illogical. But go ahead man, get excited in 2025. lol
    Civil rights bill became law immediately.  Infrastructure is a spending package, hardly the same thing.
    literally almost nothing changed overnight with civil rights. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,203
    edited November 2021
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    brianlux said:
    Awesome, thanks Kat. 
    Infrastructure bill signed by Biden allocates at least 9 billion to Mass and transportation advocates have ideas on how to spend it - The Boston Globe
    President Biden signs infrastructure bill! 
    Previous guy spent four years talking about infrastructure...Joe gets it done in 10 months. 
    This is disingenuous.  While it is a great hot take on owning Trump, we have yet to see how the money will be spent, if it will be wasteful and if it will deliver as advertised.  Sure the bill outlines how the money will be spent, but seeing is believing.  Joe did sign an infrastructure bill in 10 months and I won't criticize that progress, but infrastructure is far from "done".
    Nothing I said is "disingenuous." If you think I implied that roads and bridges were already fixed, I just don't know what to tell you. 

    This is part of the problem with the dem base. They expect change to happen overnight. That is not the way things work...especially for a bill like this that will take years for people to actually see the results. Getting this bipartisan bill done is a HUGE accomplishment. 


    Not sure where I said that I expected new roads and bridges to instantaneously materialize, maybe you can enlighten me?   As far as celebrating the signing of a bill, sorry that's not for me.  We have no proof yet that this doesn't become a wasteful spending bill vs a bill that delivers results.  It could still go either way once the funds start getting disbursed. I'm cautiously hopeful.  If we don't see any progress besides money being spent it will play into the "Democrats just want to spend your money" narrative.  Celebrating this is like slow walking to the endzone and getting creamed before the touchdown.  When asphalt  and steel columns, beams, rails, new electrical grids start getting put down I will be celebrating just as much as the next guy.  

    I signed the infrastructure bill doesn't get votes if people don't see the work getting done.  I know for some Yellow Dogs on here the he's not Trump or whatever is enough, but for most people spending that kind of money and not seeing results is a big deal.  In 2-3 years when there is proof that this money is going to infrastructure I will celebrate and say Biden got it done.  
    lol

    Some people will just never be satisfied I guess. 
    Like I said, when people start getting paid to tear up old roads, grade new ones and dig up pipes with minimal waste spending I will be happy.  That's what is promised in this bill right?  I don't think that is a large ask before I decide to be happy with the bill.
    Damn those fools in the 60's for celebrating the Civil Rights Act before bathrooms were actually physically desegregated. 

    By your reasoning literally nothing a president does should be celebrated in real time. Illogical. But go ahead man, get excited in 2025. lol
    Civil rights bill became law immediately.  Infrastructure is a spending package, hardly the same thing.
    literally almost nothing changed overnight with civil rights. 
    This would be true.  Ten years after Brown v BOE more than 3/4 of public schools in the south were still segregated.   
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    brianlux said:
    Awesome, thanks Kat. 
    Infrastructure bill signed by Biden allocates at least 9 billion to Mass and transportation advocates have ideas on how to spend it - The Boston Globe
    President Biden signs infrastructure bill! 
    Previous guy spent four years talking about infrastructure...Joe gets it done in 10 months. 
    This is disingenuous.  While it is a great hot take on owning Trump, we have yet to see how the money will be spent, if it will be wasteful and if it will deliver as advertised.  Sure the bill outlines how the money will be spent, but seeing is believing.  Joe did sign an infrastructure bill in 10 months and I won't criticize that progress, but infrastructure is far from "done".
    Nothing I said is "disingenuous." If you think I implied that roads and bridges were already fixed, I just don't know what to tell you. 

    This is part of the problem with the dem base. They expect change to happen overnight. That is not the way things work...especially for a bill like this that will take years for people to actually see the results. Getting this bipartisan bill done is a HUGE accomplishment. 


    Not sure where I said that I expected new roads and bridges to instantaneously materialize, maybe you can enlighten me?   As far as celebrating the signing of a bill, sorry that's not for me.  We have no proof yet that this doesn't become a wasteful spending bill vs a bill that delivers results.  It could still go either way once the funds start getting disbursed. I'm cautiously hopeful.  If we don't see any progress besides money being spent it will play into the "Democrats just want to spend your money" narrative.  Celebrating this is like slow walking to the endzone and getting creamed before the touchdown.  When asphalt  and steel columns, beams, rails, new electrical grids start getting put down I will be celebrating just as much as the next guy.  

    I signed the infrastructure bill doesn't get votes if people don't see the work getting done.  I know for some Yellow Dogs on here the he's not Trump or whatever is enough, but for most people spending that kind of money and not seeing results is a big deal.  In 2-3 years when there is proof that this money is going to infrastructure I will celebrate and say Biden got it done.  
    lol

    Some people will just never be satisfied I guess. 
    Like I said, when people start getting paid to tear up old roads, grade new ones and dig up pipes with minimal waste spending I will be happy.  That's what is promised in this bill right?  I don't think that is a large ask before I decide to be happy with the bill.
    Damn those fools in the 60's for celebrating the Civil Rights Act before bathrooms were actually physically desegregated. 

    By your reasoning literally nothing a president does should be celebrated in real time. Illogical. But go ahead man, get excited in 2025. lol
    Civil rights bill became law immediately.  Infrastructure is a spending package, hardly the same thing.
    literally almost nothing changed overnight with civil rights. 
    This would be true.  Ten years after Brown v BOE more than 3/4 of public schools in the south were still segregated.   
    Or, like in Alexandria VA, they just closed the schools for two years rather than desegregate. 
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    mrussel1 said:
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    static111 said:
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    static111 said:
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    brianlux said:
    Awesome, thanks Kat. 
    Infrastructure bill signed by Biden allocates at least 9 billion to Mass and transportation advocates have ideas on how to spend it - The Boston Globe
    President Biden signs infrastructure bill! 
    Previous guy spent four years talking about infrastructure...Joe gets it done in 10 months. 
    This is disingenuous.  While it is a great hot take on owning Trump, we have yet to see how the money will be spent, if it will be wasteful and if it will deliver as advertised.  Sure the bill outlines how the money will be spent, but seeing is believing.  Joe did sign an infrastructure bill in 10 months and I won't criticize that progress, but infrastructure is far from "done".
    Nothing I said is "disingenuous." If you think I implied that roads and bridges were already fixed, I just don't know what to tell you. 

    This is part of the problem with the dem base. They expect change to happen overnight. That is not the way things work...especially for a bill like this that will take years for people to actually see the results. Getting this bipartisan bill done is a HUGE accomplishment. 


    Not sure where I said that I expected new roads and bridges to instantaneously materialize, maybe you can enlighten me?   As far as celebrating the signing of a bill, sorry that's not for me.  We have no proof yet that this doesn't become a wasteful spending bill vs a bill that delivers results.  It could still go either way once the funds start getting disbursed. I'm cautiously hopeful.  If we don't see any progress besides money being spent it will play into the "Democrats just want to spend your money" narrative.  Celebrating this is like slow walking to the endzone and getting creamed before the touchdown.  When asphalt  and steel columns, beams, rails, new electrical grids start getting put down I will be celebrating just as much as the next guy.  

    I signed the infrastructure bill doesn't get votes if people don't see the work getting done.  I know for some Yellow Dogs on here the he's not Trump or whatever is enough, but for most people spending that kind of money and not seeing results is a big deal.  In 2-3 years when there is proof that this money is going to infrastructure I will celebrate and say Biden got it done.  
    lol

    Some people will just never be satisfied I guess. 
    Like I said, when people start getting paid to tear up old roads, grade new ones and dig up pipes with minimal waste spending I will be happy.  That's what is promised in this bill right?  I don't think that is a large ask before I decide to be happy with the bill.
    Damn those fools in the 60's for celebrating the Civil Rights Act before bathrooms were actually physically desegregated. 

    By your reasoning literally nothing a president does should be celebrated in real time. Illogical. But go ahead man, get excited in 2025. lol
    Civil rights bill became law immediately.  Infrastructure is a spending package, hardly the same thing.
    literally almost nothing changed overnight with civil rights. 
    This would be true.  Ten years after Brown v BOE more than 3/4 of public schools in the south were still segregated.   
    Or, like in Alexandria VA, they just closed the schools for two years rather than desegregate. 
    Then the Titans came around and changed everything. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    brianlux said:
    Awesome, thanks Kat. 
    Infrastructure bill signed by Biden allocates at least 9 billion to Mass and transportation advocates have ideas on how to spend it - The Boston Globe
    President Biden signs infrastructure bill! 
    Previous guy spent four years talking about infrastructure...Joe gets it done in 10 months. 
    This is disingenuous.  While it is a great hot take on owning Trump, we have yet to see how the money will be spent, if it will be wasteful and if it will deliver as advertised.  Sure the bill outlines how the money will be spent, but seeing is believing.  Joe did sign an infrastructure bill in 10 months and I won't criticize that progress, but infrastructure is far from "done".
    Nothing I said is "disingenuous." If you think I implied that roads and bridges were already fixed, I just don't know what to tell you. 

    This is part of the problem with the dem base. They expect change to happen overnight. That is not the way things work...especially for a bill like this that will take years for people to actually see the results. Getting this bipartisan bill done is a HUGE accomplishment. 


    Not sure where I said that I expected new roads and bridges to instantaneously materialize, maybe you can enlighten me?   As far as celebrating the signing of a bill, sorry that's not for me.  We have no proof yet that this doesn't become a wasteful spending bill vs a bill that delivers results.  It could still go either way once the funds start getting disbursed. I'm cautiously hopeful.  If we don't see any progress besides money being spent it will play into the "Democrats just want to spend your money" narrative.  Celebrating this is like slow walking to the endzone and getting creamed before the touchdown.  When asphalt  and steel columns, beams, rails, new electrical grids start getting put down I will be celebrating just as much as the next guy.  

    I signed the infrastructure bill doesn't get votes if people don't see the work getting done.  I know for some Yellow Dogs on here the he's not Trump or whatever is enough, but for most people spending that kind of money and not seeing results is a big deal.  In 2-3 years when there is proof that this money is going to infrastructure I will celebrate and say Biden got it done.  
    lol

    Some people will just never be satisfied I guess. 
    Like I said, when people start getting paid to tear up old roads, grade new ones and dig up pipes with minimal waste spending I will be happy.  That's what is promised in this bill right?  I don't think that is a large ask before I decide to be happy with the bill.
    Damn those fools in the 60's for celebrating the Civil Rights Act before bathrooms were actually physically desegregated. 

    By your reasoning literally nothing a president does should be celebrated in real time. Illogical. But go ahead man, get excited in 2025. lol
    Civil rights bill became law immediately.  Infrastructure is a spending package, hardly the same thing.
    literally almost nothing changed overnight with civil rights. 
    This would be true.  Ten years after Brown v BOE more than 3/4 of public schools in the south were still segregated.   
    Or, like in Alexandria VA, they just closed the schools for two years rather than desegregate. 
    Then the Titans came around and changed everything. 
    Excellent point!

    Funny that TJ high is a center for the CRT madness. 
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    Civil rights are the analogy you want to use for how things can be turned around overnight with the passing of a bill? Is that a joke?

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    literally almost nothing changed overnight with civil rights. 
    No kidding.  By the end of the 60's and into the 70's, the Black Power movement was in full gear and struggling because almost nothing had changed since 1964.  Even now, decades later, despite some progress, we're still not there.  Very few things change in this country over night. 

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
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    brianlux said:
    Awesome, thanks Kat. 
    Infrastructure bill signed by Biden allocates at least 9 billion to Mass and transportation advocates have ideas on how to spend it - The Boston Globe
    President Biden signs infrastructure bill! 
    Previous guy spent four years talking about infrastructure...Joe gets it done in 10 months. 
    This is disingenuous.  While it is a great hot take on owning Trump, we have yet to see how the money will be spent, if it will be wasteful and if it will deliver as advertised.  Sure the bill outlines how the money will be spent, but seeing is believing.  Joe did sign an infrastructure bill in 10 months and I won't criticize that progress, but infrastructure is far from "done".
    Nothing I said is "disingenuous." If you think I implied that roads and bridges were already fixed, I just don't know what to tell you. 

    This is part of the problem with the dem base. They expect change to happen overnight. That is not the way things work...especially for a bill like this that will take years for people to actually see the results. Getting this bipartisan bill done is a HUGE accomplishment. 


    Not sure where I said that I expected new roads and bridges to instantaneously materialize, maybe you can enlighten me?   As far as celebrating the signing of a bill, sorry that's not for me.  We have no proof yet that this doesn't become a wasteful spending bill vs a bill that delivers results.  It could still go either way once the funds start getting disbursed. I'm cautiously hopeful.  If we don't see any progress besides money being spent it will play into the "Democrats just want to spend your money" narrative.  Celebrating this is like slow walking to the endzone and getting creamed before the touchdown.  When asphalt  and steel columns, beams, rails, new electrical grids start getting put down I will be celebrating just as much as the next guy.  

    I signed the infrastructure bill doesn't get votes if people don't see the work getting done.  I know for some Yellow Dogs on here the he's not Trump or whatever is enough, but for most people spending that kind of money and not seeing results is a big deal.  In 2-3 years when there is proof that this money is going to infrastructure I will celebrate and say Biden got it done.  
    lol

    Some people will just never be satisfied I guess. 
    Like I said, when people start getting paid to tear up old roads, grade new ones and dig up pipes with minimal waste spending I will be happy.  That's what is promised in this bill right?  I don't think that is a large ask before I decide to be happy with the bill.
    Damn those fools in the 60's for celebrating the Civil Rights Act before bathrooms were actually physically desegregated. 

    By your reasoning literally nothing a president does should be celebrated in real time. Illogical. But go ahead man, get excited in 2025. lol
    Civil rights bill became law immediately.  Infrastructure is a spending package, hardly the same thing.
    literally almost nothing changed overnight with civil rights. 
    This would be true.  Ten years after Brown v BOE more than 3/4 of public schools in the south were still segregated.   
    Or, like in Alexandria VA, they just closed the schools for two years rather than desegregate. 
    Then the Titans came around and changed everything. 
    Excellent point!

    Funny that TJ high is a center for the CRT madness. 
    I used to live like 5 minutes from TC Williams for a hot minute after college. Looks like they changed the name to Alexandria City High School actually                                                                          
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    brianlux said:
    Awesome, thanks Kat. 
    Infrastructure bill signed by Biden allocates at least 9 billion to Mass and transportation advocates have ideas on how to spend it - The Boston Globe
    President Biden signs infrastructure bill! 
    Previous guy spent four years talking about infrastructure...Joe gets it done in 10 months. 
    This is disingenuous.  While it is a great hot take on owning Trump, we have yet to see how the money will be spent, if it will be wasteful and if it will deliver as advertised.  Sure the bill outlines how the money will be spent, but seeing is believing.  Joe did sign an infrastructure bill in 10 months and I won't criticize that progress, but infrastructure is far from "done".
    Nothing I said is "disingenuous." If you think I implied that roads and bridges were already fixed, I just don't know what to tell you. 

    This is part of the problem with the dem base. They expect change to happen overnight. That is not the way things work...especially for a bill like this that will take years for people to actually see the results. Getting this bipartisan bill done is a HUGE accomplishment. 


    Not sure where I said that I expected new roads and bridges to instantaneously materialize, maybe you can enlighten me?   As far as celebrating the signing of a bill, sorry that's not for me.  We have no proof yet that this doesn't become a wasteful spending bill vs a bill that delivers results.  It could still go either way once the funds start getting disbursed. I'm cautiously hopeful.  If we don't see any progress besides money being spent it will play into the "Democrats just want to spend your money" narrative.  Celebrating this is like slow walking to the endzone and getting creamed before the touchdown.  When asphalt  and steel columns, beams, rails, new electrical grids start getting put down I will be celebrating just as much as the next guy.  

    I signed the infrastructure bill doesn't get votes if people don't see the work getting done.  I know for some Yellow Dogs on here the he's not Trump or whatever is enough, but for most people spending that kind of money and not seeing results is a big deal.  In 2-3 years when there is proof that this money is going to infrastructure I will celebrate and say Biden got it done.  
    lol

    Some people will just never be satisfied I guess. 
    Like I said, when people start getting paid to tear up old roads, grade new ones and dig up pipes with minimal waste spending I will be happy.  That's what is promised in this bill right?  I don't think that is a large ask before I decide to be happy with the bill.
    Damn those fools in the 60's for celebrating the Civil Rights Act before bathrooms were actually physically desegregated. 

    By your reasoning literally nothing a president does should be celebrated in real time. Illogical. But go ahead man, get excited in 2025. lol
    Civil rights bill became law immediately.  Infrastructure is a spending package, hardly the same thing.
    literally almost nothing changed overnight with civil rights. 
    This would be true.  Ten years after Brown v BOE more than 3/4 of public schools in the south were still segregated.   
    Or, like in Alexandria VA, they just closed the schools for two years rather than desegregate. 
    Then the Titans came around and changed everything. 
    Excellent point!

    Funny that TJ high is a center for the CRT madness. 
    I used to live like 5 minutes from TC Williams for a hot minute after college. Looks like they changed the name to Alexandria City High School actually                                                                          
    I love Alexandria.  Great little city. 
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    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
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    brianlux said:
    Awesome, thanks Kat. 
    Infrastructure bill signed by Biden allocates at least 9 billion to Mass and transportation advocates have ideas on how to spend it - The Boston Globe
    President Biden signs infrastructure bill! 
    Previous guy spent four years talking about infrastructure...Joe gets it done in 10 months. 
    This is disingenuous.  While it is a great hot take on owning Trump, we have yet to see how the money will be spent, if it will be wasteful and if it will deliver as advertised.  Sure the bill outlines how the money will be spent, but seeing is believing.  Joe did sign an infrastructure bill in 10 months and I won't criticize that progress, but infrastructure is far from "done".
    Nothing I said is "disingenuous." If you think I implied that roads and bridges were already fixed, I just don't know what to tell you. 

    This is part of the problem with the dem base. They expect change to happen overnight. That is not the way things work...especially for a bill like this that will take years for people to actually see the results. Getting this bipartisan bill done is a HUGE accomplishment. 


    Not sure where I said that I expected new roads and bridges to instantaneously materialize, maybe you can enlighten me?   As far as celebrating the signing of a bill, sorry that's not for me.  We have no proof yet that this doesn't become a wasteful spending bill vs a bill that delivers results.  It could still go either way once the funds start getting disbursed. I'm cautiously hopeful.  If we don't see any progress besides money being spent it will play into the "Democrats just want to spend your money" narrative.  Celebrating this is like slow walking to the endzone and getting creamed before the touchdown.  When asphalt  and steel columns, beams, rails, new electrical grids start getting put down I will be celebrating just as much as the next guy.  

    I signed the infrastructure bill doesn't get votes if people don't see the work getting done.  I know for some Yellow Dogs on here the he's not Trump or whatever is enough, but for most people spending that kind of money and not seeing results is a big deal.  In 2-3 years when there is proof that this money is going to infrastructure I will celebrate and say Biden got it done.  
    lol

    Some people will just never be satisfied I guess. 
    Like I said, when people start getting paid to tear up old roads, grade new ones and dig up pipes with minimal waste spending I will be happy.  That's what is promised in this bill right?  I don't think that is a large ask before I decide to be happy with the bill.
    Damn those fools in the 60's for celebrating the Civil Rights Act before bathrooms were actually physically desegregated. 

    By your reasoning literally nothing a president does should be celebrated in real time. Illogical. But go ahead man, get excited in 2025. lol
    Civil rights bill became law immediately.  Infrastructure is a spending package, hardly the same thing.
    literally almost nothing changed overnight with civil rights. 
    This would be true.  Ten years after Brown v BOE more than 3/4 of public schools in the south were still segregated.   
    Or, like in Alexandria VA, they just closed the schools for two years rather than desegregate. 
    Then the Titans came around and changed everything. 
    Excellent point!

    Funny that TJ high is a center for the CRT madness. 
    Really?  I haven’t been to alexendria in a long time but for some reAson I see it being really blue since it is right outside of dc.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    The Juggler said:
    brianlux said:
    Awesome, thanks Kat. 
    Infrastructure bill signed by Biden allocates at least 9 billion to Mass and transportation advocates have ideas on how to spend it - The Boston Globe
    President Biden signs infrastructure bill! 
    Previous guy spent four years talking about infrastructure...Joe gets it done in 10 months. 
    This is disingenuous.  While it is a great hot take on owning Trump, we have yet to see how the money will be spent, if it will be wasteful and if it will deliver as advertised.  Sure the bill outlines how the money will be spent, but seeing is believing.  Joe did sign an infrastructure bill in 10 months and I won't criticize that progress, but infrastructure is far from "done".
    Nothing I said is "disingenuous." If you think I implied that roads and bridges were already fixed, I just don't know what to tell you. 

    This is part of the problem with the dem base. They expect change to happen overnight. That is not the way things work...especially for a bill like this that will take years for people to actually see the results. Getting this bipartisan bill done is a HUGE accomplishment. 


    Not sure where I said that I expected new roads and bridges to instantaneously materialize, maybe you can enlighten me?   As far as celebrating the signing of a bill, sorry that's not for me.  We have no proof yet that this doesn't become a wasteful spending bill vs a bill that delivers results.  It could still go either way once the funds start getting disbursed. I'm cautiously hopeful.  If we don't see any progress besides money being spent it will play into the "Democrats just want to spend your money" narrative.  Celebrating this is like slow walking to the endzone and getting creamed before the touchdown.  When asphalt  and steel columns, beams, rails, new electrical grids start getting put down I will be celebrating just as much as the next guy.  

    I signed the infrastructure bill doesn't get votes if people don't see the work getting done.  I know for some Yellow Dogs on here the he's not Trump or whatever is enough, but for most people spending that kind of money and not seeing results is a big deal.  In 2-3 years when there is proof that this money is going to infrastructure I will celebrate and say Biden got it done.  
    lol

    Some people will just never be satisfied I guess. 
    Like I said, when people start getting paid to tear up old roads, grade new ones and dig up pipes with minimal waste spending I will be happy.  That's what is promised in this bill right?  I don't think that is a large ask before I decide to be happy with the bill.
    Damn those fools in the 60's for celebrating the Civil Rights Act before bathrooms were actually physically desegregated. 

    By your reasoning literally nothing a president does should be celebrated in real time. Illogical. But go ahead man, get excited in 2025. lol
    Civil rights bill became law immediately.  Infrastructure is a spending package, hardly the same thing.
    That thing Biden did yesterday with his pen, where he wrote his name....that made his infrastructure bill into a law. It's literally a law now. 
    Yes and it is clearly as significant as the civil rights bill was as soon as it was signed.  Get back to me when the John Lewis Voting Rights Act is signed and I promise I will be celebrating more than you, well before the ink dries.
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