#46 President Joe Biden

static111 · October 2021

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.

She needs a tan pantsuit.

I haven't figured her out. I mean I get Manchin, and I get he is representing his state which is pretty conservative, poor, and tied to dirty energy for jobs. But what's her story? I don't understand.

she is bought and paid for. she is being paid to sabotage the biden agenda.

the only reason she is not switching to gop is because she would have to give up all of her power. she would just be one of the many. in the democratic party she has a say on anything the dems try to pass because she is a likely holdout on many bills.

Bought and paid by whom? As far as I can tell she is:

Pro choice
Pro gun control
Pro Obamacare
Pro Fed education standards
Anti-wall
Anti-kick out the immigrants

and more..

She's a pretty down the line Democrat and none of her key yes/no positions fall into the right side of the aisle. She's just right of most of the party, but does not cross the line. The difference is that she isn't moving her position right now. So I'm wondering what gets her there.

her net worth shot up from I believe 31k to over a million after becoming a senator...that's a huge increase in two years for a $174,000 a year position. I'd say follow the money. Follow the fortuitous investments etc. I'm sure some outlet will provide some insight if the stonewalling continues.

I call bullshit on that.

https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/kyrsten-sinema/net-worth?cid=N00033983&year=2018 Their data only goes to 2018 currently. If the current reporting of $1m is accurate we will know soon enough. It’s certainly not a stretch to say that something is off here.

yes, the website is. those are two entries of retirement plans in Arizona for public employees. first as a state rep then a state senator. before she served 3 terms in Congress, which she was seated in in 2018...Then she was elected to Senate...

mrussel1 said:

And if she is worth a million, it would be from legitimate book sales or the like. The two articles I read said that she accepted 750K in donations from pharmaceuticals. Maybe that's right but that doesn't go to her personally and then get reported in her net worth. The articles are connecting the two for the least sophisticated reader, without slandering her direclty.

My bad well I guess that clears it up. There is obviously no foul play with Sinema.

mrussel1 · October 2021

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.

She needs a tan pantsuit.

I haven't figured her out. I mean I get Manchin, and I get he is representing his state which is pretty conservative, poor, and tied to dirty energy for jobs. But what's her story? I don't understand.

she is bought and paid for. she is being paid to sabotage the biden agenda.

the only reason she is not switching to gop is because she would have to give up all of her power. she would just be one of the many. in the democratic party she has a say on anything the dems try to pass because she is a likely holdout on many bills.

Bought and paid by whom? As far as I can tell she is:

Pro choice
Pro gun control
Pro Obamacare
Pro Fed education standards
Anti-wall
Anti-kick out the immigrants

and more..

She's a pretty down the line Democrat and none of her key yes/no positions fall into the right side of the aisle. She's just right of most of the party, but does not cross the line. The difference is that she isn't moving her position right now. So I'm wondering what gets her there.

her net worth shot up from I believe 31k to over a million after becoming a senator...that's a huge increase in two years for a $174,000 a year position. I'd say follow the money. Follow the fortuitous investments etc. I'm sure some outlet will provide some insight if the stonewalling continues.

I call bullshit on that.

https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/kyrsten-sinema/net-worth?cid=N00033983&year=2018 Their data only goes to 2018 currently. If the current reporting of $1m is accurate we will know soon enough. It’s certainly not a stretch to say that something is off here.

yes, the website is. those are two entries of retirement plans in Arizona for public employees. first as a state rep then a state senator. before she served 3 terms in Congress, which she was seated in in 2018...Then she was elected to Senate...

mrussel1 said:

And if she is worth a million, it would be from legitimate book sales or the like. The two articles I read said that she accepted 750K in donations from pharmaceuticals. Maybe that's right but that doesn't go to her personally and then get reported in her net worth. The articles are connecting the two for the least sophisticated reader, without slandering her direclty.

My bad well I guess that clears it up. There is obviously no foul play with Sinema.

So we assume corruption based on twitter accusations? Is that where we are these days?

Halifax2TheMax · October 2021

Well, she did accept $2,900 from someone named Nazi. That might explain everything.

https://www.fec.gov/data/candidate/S8AZ00197/

mrussel1 · October 2021

Any other Republicans besides Sinema signing on to this?

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/budget/578590-sinema-backs-corporate-minimum-tax-proposal

brianlux · October 2021

gimmesometruth27 said:

here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.

Agreed! Give her a shovel or a guitar or something, anything get get her out of a place she doesn't belong in. Seriously, I'm no Robert Fripp when it comes to dressing, but I also do most of my work in a garage turned bookstore. She's an embarrassment.

mickeyrat · October 2021

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.

She needs a tan pantsuit.

I haven't figured her out. I mean I get Manchin, and I get he is representing his state which is pretty conservative, poor, and tied to dirty energy for jobs. But what's her story? I don't understand.

she is bought and paid for. she is being paid to sabotage the biden agenda.

the only reason she is not switching to gop is because she would have to give up all of her power. she would just be one of the many. in the democratic party she has a say on anything the dems try to pass because she is a likely holdout on many bills.

Bought and paid by whom? As far as I can tell she is:

Pro choice
Pro gun control
Pro Obamacare
Pro Fed education standards
Anti-wall
Anti-kick out the immigrants

and more..

She's a pretty down the line Democrat and none of her key yes/no positions fall into the right side of the aisle. She's just right of most of the party, but does not cross the line. The difference is that she isn't moving her position right now. So I'm wondering what gets her there.

her net worth shot up from I believe 31k to over a million after becoming a senator...that's a huge increase in two years for a $174,000 a year position. I'd say follow the money. Follow the fortuitous investments etc. I'm sure some outlet will provide some insight if the stonewalling continues.

I call bullshit on that.

https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/kyrsten-sinema/net-worth?cid=N00033983&year=2018 Their data only goes to 2018 currently. If the current reporting of $1m is accurate we will know soon enough. It’s certainly not a stretch to say that something is off here.

yes, the website is. those are two entries of retirement plans in Arizona for public employees. first as a state rep then a state senator. before she served 3 terms in Congress, which she was seated in in 2018...Then she was elected to Senate...

mrussel1 said:

And if she is worth a million, it would be from legitimate book sales or the like. The two articles I read said that she accepted 750K in donations from pharmaceuticals. Maybe that's right but that doesn't go to her personally and then get reported in her net worth. The articles are connecting the two for the least sophisticated reader, without slandering her direclty.

My bad well I guess that clears it up. There is obviously no foul play with Sinema.

no. it simply shows incomplete info on that source. it doesnt seem to list any other assets like real estate, stock portfolio, income from the 2 books with her name on the cover, what if anything she gained from her divorce etc

The Juggler · October 2021

JB16057 said:

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JB16057 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

JB16057 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JB16057 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JB16057 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JB16057 said:

When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?

come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?

I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.

I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.
Not yet but we do have D Governors claiming to be saviors. https://www.yahoo.com/now/inslee-only-person-saving-lives-200000912.html

"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.

nice pivot.

Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.

Not only D governors do this, our own president does this: https://news.yahoo.com/video-biden-walking-ritzy-dc-183400056.html

That photo is outside the restaurant. That's in Georgetown and they have palms surrounding the entrance.

The video is in the link. Here is a direct link to the video: https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1449578155098968064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1449578155098968064%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.yahoo.com%2Fvideo-biden-walking-ritzy-dc-183400056.html

The video looks like it is inside.

Yes, that looks inside.

So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.

I think that if you'd given Trump those 50 answers, it wouldn't have made a difference just like Biden doing what he can isn't going to make a difference. The difference is that people still blame Trump for the COVID deaths that happened under his admin but Biden does not get that same judgement.

Biden has more knowledge and tools to fight COVID than Trump ever did yet more people are dying under Biden.

hi @JB16057

https://www.newsweek.com/birx-estimates-trump-admin-could-have-prevented-30-40-percent-covid-deaths-1642753

Birx Estimates Trump Admin Could Have Prevented 30 to 40 Percent of COVID Deaths

BY KATHERINE FUNG ON 10/26/21 AT 2:14 PM EDT

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U.S.DEBORAH BIRX CORONAVIRUS DONALD TRUMP TRUMP ADMINISTRATION

The Trump administration's former coronavirus advisor, Dr. Deborah Birx, estimated that 30 to 40 percent of the 738,000 COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. could have been prevented had the White House taken necessary steps to curb the spread of the virus.

In a closed-door testimony conducted by the House Select Coronavirus Subcommittee on October 12 and 13, Birx testified that more than 130,000 American lives could have been saved if the administration promoted mask-wearing and social distancing in the early days of the pandemic.

"I believe if we had fully implemented the mask mandates, the reduction in indoor dining, the getting friends and family to understand the risk of gathering in private homes, and we had increased testing, that we probably could have decreased fatalities into the 30 percent less to 40 percent less range," Birx said, according to excerpts shared by the committee.

Asked whether former President Donald Trump did everything he could have to handle the pandemic, Birx said, "No, and I've said that to the White House in general, and I believe I was very clear to the president in specifics of what I needed him to do."

The former health official also accused Trump's team of being "distracted" from the national COVID-19 response, turning their efforts to campaigning for the 2020 election instead.

Birx said that because no one was at the White House, the White House's COVID-19 task force did not hold regular meetings.

"They were actively campaigning and not as present in the White House as previously," she testified.

"I felt like the White House had gotten somewhat complacent through the campaign season, and I wanted to make sure that as soon as everyone was back the day after the election, that people would comprehensively reengage," she added.

Since leaving the administration in January, Birx has expressed regret over how she handled her role as one of Trump's top health advisers and has alleged that senior administration officials censored her warnings on the severity of the pandemic.

However, during Birx's time with the Trump administration, she often praised the former president for his understanding of pandemic data and advised top officials that the COVID-19 situation had improved by April and May of 2020.

In her remarks to the House panel, Birx also slammed Dr. Scott Atlas, a Trump adviser who advocated for herd immunity, saying she had repeatedly raised issues with Atlas' guidance.

"I was constantly raising the alert in the doctors' meetings of the depth of my concern about Dr. Atlas' position, Dr. Atlas' access, Dr. Atlas' theories and hypothesis, and the depths and breadths of my concern," Birx said. "I made it clear that I would not attend meetings where he would be present kind of to create a line in the sand."

The subcommittee's chairman, Representative James Clyburn, said Birx's interview shed light on why the Trump administration's COVID-19 response was at times confusing and contradictory.

"President Trump's prioritization of politics, contempt for science, and refusal to follow the advice of public health experts undermined the nation's ability to respond effectively to the coronavirus crisis," Clyburn said in a statement. "The Trump White House's prioritization of election year politics over the pandemic response—even as cases surged last fall—is among the worst failures of leadership in American history."

static111 · October 2021

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.

She needs a tan pantsuit.

I haven't figured her out. I mean I get Manchin, and I get he is representing his state which is pretty conservative, poor, and tied to dirty energy for jobs. But what's her story? I don't understand.

she is bought and paid for. she is being paid to sabotage the biden agenda.

the only reason she is not switching to gop is because she would have to give up all of her power. she would just be one of the many. in the democratic party she has a say on anything the dems try to pass because she is a likely holdout on many bills.

Bought and paid by whom? As far as I can tell she is:

Pro choice
Pro gun control
Pro Obamacare
Pro Fed education standards
Anti-wall
Anti-kick out the immigrants

and more..

She's a pretty down the line Democrat and none of her key yes/no positions fall into the right side of the aisle. She's just right of most of the party, but does not cross the line. The difference is that she isn't moving her position right now. So I'm wondering what gets her there.

her net worth shot up from I believe 31k to over a million after becoming a senator...that's a huge increase in two years for a $174,000 a year position. I'd say follow the money. Follow the fortuitous investments etc. I'm sure some outlet will provide some insight if the stonewalling continues.

I call bullshit on that.

https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/kyrsten-sinema/net-worth?cid=N00033983&year=2018 Their data only goes to 2018 currently. If the current reporting of $1m is accurate we will know soon enough. It’s certainly not a stretch to say that something is off here.

yes, the website is. those are two entries of retirement plans in Arizona for public employees. first as a state rep then a state senator. before she served 3 terms in Congress, which she was seated in in 2018...Then she was elected to Senate...

mrussel1 said:

And if she is worth a million, it would be from legitimate book sales or the like. The two articles I read said that she accepted 750K in donations from pharmaceuticals. Maybe that's right but that doesn't go to her personally and then get reported in her net worth. The articles are connecting the two for the least sophisticated reader, without slandering her direclty.

My bad well I guess that clears it up. There is obviously no foul play with Sinema.

So we assume corruption based on twitter accusations? Is that where we are these days?

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.

She needs a tan pantsuit.

I haven't figured her out. I mean I get Manchin, and I get he is representing his state which is pretty conservative, poor, and tied to dirty energy for jobs. But what's her story? I don't understand.

she is bought and paid for. she is being paid to sabotage the biden agenda.

the only reason she is not switching to gop is because she would have to give up all of her power. she would just be one of the many. in the democratic party she has a say on anything the dems try to pass because she is a likely holdout on many bills.

Bought and paid by whom? As far as I can tell she is:

Pro choice
Pro gun control
Pro Obamacare
Pro Fed education standards
Anti-wall
Anti-kick out the immigrants

and more..

She's a pretty down the line Democrat and none of her key yes/no positions fall into the right side of the aisle. She's just right of most of the party, but does not cross the line. The difference is that she isn't moving her position right now. So I'm wondering what gets her there.

her net worth shot up from I believe 31k to over a million after becoming a senator...that's a huge increase in two years for a $174,000 a year position. I'd say follow the money. Follow the fortuitous investments etc. I'm sure some outlet will provide some insight if the stonewalling continues.

I call bullshit on that.

https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/kyrsten-sinema/net-worth?cid=N00033983&year=2018 Their data only goes to 2018 currently. If the current reporting of $1m is accurate we will know soon enough. It’s certainly not a stretch to say that something is off here.

yes, the website is. those are two entries of retirement plans in Arizona for public employees. first as a state rep then a state senator. before she served 3 terms in Congress, which she was seated in in 2018...Then she was elected to Senate...

mrussel1 said:

And if she is worth a million, it would be from legitimate book sales or the like. The two articles I read said that she accepted 750K in donations from pharmaceuticals. Maybe that's right but that doesn't go to her personally and then get reported in her net worth. The articles are connecting the two for the least sophisticated reader, without slandering her direclty.

My bad well I guess that clears it up. There is obviously no foul play with Sinema.

no. it simply shows incomplete info on that source. it doesnt seem to list any other assets like real estate, stock portfolio, income from the 2 books with her name on the cover, what if anything she gained from her divorce etc

If it smells like a rat and looks like a rat and acts like a rat it is probably a rat. This goes for Manchin as well. At least with manchin he has vocalize what his desires are. Sinemas own state party is looking for someone to primary her in the next election and it seems like her constituents are none too happy. It is odd that someone that ran for many years as a green, then a progressive has taken the republican minus wedge issues position. There is surely money behind this.

static111 · October 2021

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.

She needs a tan pantsuit.

I haven't figured her out. I mean I get Manchin, and I get he is representing his state which is pretty conservative, poor, and tied to dirty energy for jobs. But what's her story? I don't understand.

she is bought and paid for. she is being paid to sabotage the biden agenda.

the only reason she is not switching to gop is because she would have to give up all of her power. she would just be one of the many. in the democratic party she has a say on anything the dems try to pass because she is a likely holdout on many bills.

Bought and paid by whom? As far as I can tell she is:

Pro choice
Pro gun control
Pro Obamacare
Pro Fed education standards
Anti-wall
Anti-kick out the immigrants

and more..

She's a pretty down the line Democrat and none of her key yes/no positions fall into the right side of the aisle. She's just right of most of the party, but does not cross the line. The difference is that she isn't moving her position right now. So I'm wondering what gets her there.

her net worth shot up from I believe 31k to over a million after becoming a senator...that's a huge increase in two years for a $174,000 a year position. I'd say follow the money. Follow the fortuitous investments etc. I'm sure some outlet will provide some insight if the stonewalling continues.

I call bullshit on that.

https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/kyrsten-sinema/net-worth?cid=N00033983&year=2018 Their data only goes to 2018 currently. If the current reporting of $1m is accurate we will know soon enough. It’s certainly not a stretch to say that something is off here.

yes, the website is. those are two entries of retirement plans in Arizona for public employees. first as a state rep then a state senator. before she served 3 terms in Congress, which she was seated in in 2018...Then she was elected to Senate...

mrussel1 said:

And if she is worth a million, it would be from legitimate book sales or the like. The two articles I read said that she accepted 750K in donations from pharmaceuticals. Maybe that's right but that doesn't go to her personally and then get reported in her net worth. The articles are connecting the two for the least sophisticated reader, without slandering her direclty.

My bad well I guess that clears it up. There is obviously no foul play with Sinema.

So we assume corruption based on twitter accusations? Is that where we are these days?

Isn't that why there was so much scrutiny of trump that came to nothing so far?

mrussel1 · October 2021

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.

She needs a tan pantsuit.

I haven't figured her out. I mean I get Manchin, and I get he is representing his state which is pretty conservative, poor, and tied to dirty energy for jobs. But what's her story? I don't understand.

she is bought and paid for. she is being paid to sabotage the biden agenda.

the only reason she is not switching to gop is because she would have to give up all of her power. she would just be one of the many. in the democratic party she has a say on anything the dems try to pass because she is a likely holdout on many bills.

Bought and paid by whom? As far as I can tell she is:

Pro choice
Pro gun control
Pro Obamacare
Pro Fed education standards
Anti-wall
Anti-kick out the immigrants

and more..

She's a pretty down the line Democrat and none of her key yes/no positions fall into the right side of the aisle. She's just right of most of the party, but does not cross the line. The difference is that she isn't moving her position right now. So I'm wondering what gets her there.

her net worth shot up from I believe 31k to over a million after becoming a senator...that's a huge increase in two years for a $174,000 a year position. I'd say follow the money. Follow the fortuitous investments etc. I'm sure some outlet will provide some insight if the stonewalling continues.

I call bullshit on that.

https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/kyrsten-sinema/net-worth?cid=N00033983&year=2018 Their data only goes to 2018 currently. If the current reporting of $1m is accurate we will know soon enough. It’s certainly not a stretch to say that something is off here.

yes, the website is. those are two entries of retirement plans in Arizona for public employees. first as a state rep then a state senator. before she served 3 terms in Congress, which she was seated in in 2018...Then she was elected to Senate...

mrussel1 said:

And if she is worth a million, it would be from legitimate book sales or the like. The two articles I read said that she accepted 750K in donations from pharmaceuticals. Maybe that's right but that doesn't go to her personally and then get reported in her net worth. The articles are connecting the two for the least sophisticated reader, without slandering her direclty.

My bad well I guess that clears it up. There is obviously no foul play with Sinema.

So we assume corruption based on twitter accusations? Is that where we are these days?

Isn't that why there was so much scrutiny of trump that came to nothing so far?

By your own logic, that means Sinema is clean.

Halifax2TheMax · October 2021

Maybe there’s a tape?

static111 · October 2021

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.

She needs a tan pantsuit.

I haven't figured her out. I mean I get Manchin, and I get he is representing his state which is pretty conservative, poor, and tied to dirty energy for jobs. But what's her story? I don't understand.

she is bought and paid for. she is being paid to sabotage the biden agenda.

the only reason she is not switching to gop is because she would have to give up all of her power. she would just be one of the many. in the democratic party she has a say on anything the dems try to pass because she is a likely holdout on many bills.

Bought and paid by whom? As far as I can tell she is:

Pro choice
Pro gun control
Pro Obamacare
Pro Fed education standards
Anti-wall
Anti-kick out the immigrants

and more..

She's a pretty down the line Democrat and none of her key yes/no positions fall into the right side of the aisle. She's just right of most of the party, but does not cross the line. The difference is that she isn't moving her position right now. So I'm wondering what gets her there.

her net worth shot up from I believe 31k to over a million after becoming a senator...that's a huge increase in two years for a $174,000 a year position. I'd say follow the money. Follow the fortuitous investments etc. I'm sure some outlet will provide some insight if the stonewalling continues.

I call bullshit on that.

https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/kyrsten-sinema/net-worth?cid=N00033983&year=2018 Their data only goes to 2018 currently. If the current reporting of $1m is accurate we will know soon enough. It’s certainly not a stretch to say that something is off here.

yes, the website is. those are two entries of retirement plans in Arizona for public employees. first as a state rep then a state senator. before she served 3 terms in Congress, which she was seated in in 2018...Then she was elected to Senate...

mrussel1 said:

And if she is worth a million, it would be from legitimate book sales or the like. The two articles I read said that she accepted 750K in donations from pharmaceuticals. Maybe that's right but that doesn't go to her personally and then get reported in her net worth. The articles are connecting the two for the least sophisticated reader, without slandering her direclty.

My bad well I guess that clears it up. There is obviously no foul play with Sinema.

So we assume corruption based on twitter accusations? Is that where we are these days?

Isn't that why there was so much scrutiny of trump that came to nothing so far?

By your own logic, that means Sinema is clean.

Well obviously anyone that can not be proved guilty is completely innocent.

mrussel1 · October 2021

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.

She needs a tan pantsuit.

I haven't figured her out. I mean I get Manchin, and I get he is representing his state which is pretty conservative, poor, and tied to dirty energy for jobs. But what's her story? I don't understand.

she is bought and paid for. she is being paid to sabotage the biden agenda.

the only reason she is not switching to gop is because she would have to give up all of her power. she would just be one of the many. in the democratic party she has a say on anything the dems try to pass because she is a likely holdout on many bills.

Bought and paid by whom? As far as I can tell she is:

Pro choice
Pro gun control
Pro Obamacare
Pro Fed education standards
Anti-wall
Anti-kick out the immigrants

and more..

She's a pretty down the line Democrat and none of her key yes/no positions fall into the right side of the aisle. She's just right of most of the party, but does not cross the line. The difference is that she isn't moving her position right now. So I'm wondering what gets her there.

her net worth shot up from I believe 31k to over a million after becoming a senator...that's a huge increase in two years for a $174,000 a year position. I'd say follow the money. Follow the fortuitous investments etc. I'm sure some outlet will provide some insight if the stonewalling continues.

I call bullshit on that.

https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/kyrsten-sinema/net-worth?cid=N00033983&year=2018 Their data only goes to 2018 currently. If the current reporting of $1m is accurate we will know soon enough. It’s certainly not a stretch to say that something is off here.

yes, the website is. those are two entries of retirement plans in Arizona for public employees. first as a state rep then a state senator. before she served 3 terms in Congress, which she was seated in in 2018...Then she was elected to Senate...

mrussel1 said:

And if she is worth a million, it would be from legitimate book sales or the like. The two articles I read said that she accepted 750K in donations from pharmaceuticals. Maybe that's right but that doesn't go to her personally and then get reported in her net worth. The articles are connecting the two for the least sophisticated reader, without slandering her direclty.

My bad well I guess that clears it up. There is obviously no foul play with Sinema.

So we assume corruption based on twitter accusations? Is that where we are these days?

Isn't that why there was so much scrutiny of trump that came to nothing so far?

By your own logic, that means Sinema is clean.

Well obviously anyone that can not be proved guilty is completely innocent.

Really? This is where you are on this? Where is your source that she's worth a million? You're required to report this along with the nature of your assets. From where did this accusation come? You made it, so where did you discover it?

And Mickey is dead right on his comment from open secrets. It's seems accurate that was limited to state controlled retirement. No stocks, equity, nothing else.

static111 · October 2021

Halifax2TheMax said:

Maybe there’s a tape?

No way man Trump did nothing wrong his whole presidency, nothing but perfect calls. If he had done anything wrong our bullet proof justice system and FBI would have been all over it.

static111 · October 2021

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.

She needs a tan pantsuit.

I haven't figured her out. I mean I get Manchin, and I get he is representing his state which is pretty conservative, poor, and tied to dirty energy for jobs. But what's her story? I don't understand.

she is bought and paid for. she is being paid to sabotage the biden agenda.

the only reason she is not switching to gop is because she would have to give up all of her power. she would just be one of the many. in the democratic party she has a say on anything the dems try to pass because she is a likely holdout on many bills.

Bought and paid by whom? As far as I can tell she is:

Pro choice
Pro gun control
Pro Obamacare
Pro Fed education standards
Anti-wall
Anti-kick out the immigrants

and more..

She's a pretty down the line Democrat and none of her key yes/no positions fall into the right side of the aisle. She's just right of most of the party, but does not cross the line. The difference is that she isn't moving her position right now. So I'm wondering what gets her there.

her net worth shot up from I believe 31k to over a million after becoming a senator...that's a huge increase in two years for a $174,000 a year position. I'd say follow the money. Follow the fortuitous investments etc. I'm sure some outlet will provide some insight if the stonewalling continues.

I call bullshit on that.

https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/kyrsten-sinema/net-worth?cid=N00033983&year=2018 Their data only goes to 2018 currently. If the current reporting of $1m is accurate we will know soon enough. It’s certainly not a stretch to say that something is off here.

yes, the website is. those are two entries of retirement plans in Arizona for public employees. first as a state rep then a state senator. before she served 3 terms in Congress, which she was seated in in 2018...Then she was elected to Senate...

mrussel1 said:

And if she is worth a million, it would be from legitimate book sales or the like. The two articles I read said that she accepted 750K in donations from pharmaceuticals. Maybe that's right but that doesn't go to her personally and then get reported in her net worth. The articles are connecting the two for the least sophisticated reader, without slandering her direclty.

My bad well I guess that clears it up. There is obviously no foul play with Sinema.

So we assume corruption based on twitter accusations? Is that where we are these days?

Isn't that why there was so much scrutiny of trump that came to nothing so far?

By your own logic, that means Sinema is clean.

Well obviously anyone that can not be proved guilty is completely innocent.

Really? This is where you are on this? Where is your source that she's worth a million? You're required to report this along with the nature of your assets. From where did this accusation come? You made it, so where did you discover it?

And Mickey is dead right on his comment from open secrets. It's seems accurate that was limited to state controlled retirement. No stocks, equity, nothing else.

You win, she is just a stauch centrist with no other motivations than bipartisanship.

static111 · October 2021

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.

She needs a tan pantsuit.

I haven't figured her out. I mean I get Manchin, and I get he is representing his state which is pretty conservative, poor, and tied to dirty energy for jobs. But what's her story? I don't understand.

she is bought and paid for. she is being paid to sabotage the biden agenda.

the only reason she is not switching to gop is because she would have to give up all of her power. she would just be one of the many. in the democratic party she has a say on anything the dems try to pass because she is a likely holdout on many bills.

Bought and paid by whom? As far as I can tell she is:

Pro choice
Pro gun control
Pro Obamacare
Pro Fed education standards
Anti-wall
Anti-kick out the immigrants

and more..

She's a pretty down the line Democrat and none of her key yes/no positions fall into the right side of the aisle. She's just right of most of the party, but does not cross the line. The difference is that she isn't moving her position right now. So I'm wondering what gets her there.

her net worth shot up from I believe 31k to over a million after becoming a senator...that's a huge increase in two years for a $174,000 a year position. I'd say follow the money. Follow the fortuitous investments etc. I'm sure some outlet will provide some insight if the stonewalling continues.

I call bullshit on that.

https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/kyrsten-sinema/net-worth?cid=N00033983&year=2018 Their data only goes to 2018 currently. If the current reporting of $1m is accurate we will know soon enough. It’s certainly not a stretch to say that something is off here.

yes, the website is. those are two entries of retirement plans in Arizona for public employees. first as a state rep then a state senator. before she served 3 terms in Congress, which she was seated in in 2018...Then she was elected to Senate...

mrussel1 said:

And if she is worth a million, it would be from legitimate book sales or the like. The two articles I read said that she accepted 750K in donations from pharmaceuticals. Maybe that's right but that doesn't go to her personally and then get reported in her net worth. The articles are connecting the two for the least sophisticated reader, without slandering her direclty.

My bad well I guess that clears it up. There is obviously no foul play with Sinema.

So we assume corruption based on twitter accusations? Is that where we are these days?

Isn't that why there was so much scrutiny of trump that came to nothing so far?

By your own logic, that means Sinema is clean.

Well obviously anyone that can not be proved guilty is completely innocent.

Really? This is where you are on this? Where is your source that she's worth a million? You're required to report this along with the nature of your assets. From where did this accusation come? You made it, so where did you discover it?

And Mickey is dead right on his comment from open secrets. It's seems accurate that was limited to state controlled retirement. No stocks, equity, nothing else.

This is why Rs win, if someone like sinema was distracting from their agenda Moscow Mitch would smoke them out. Meanwhile we benefit of the doubt ourselves back into republican control. And then people have the audacity to say this next election is the most important in your lifetime and this time we really will pass meaningful reform and legislation. Pfffft.

Halifax2TheMax · October 2021

Seems it’s gone to her head.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/10/27/kyrsten-sinema-ambition-loyalty-517224

mrussel1 · October 2021

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.

She needs a tan pantsuit.

I haven't figured her out. I mean I get Manchin, and I get he is representing his state which is pretty conservative, poor, and tied to dirty energy for jobs. But what's her story? I don't understand.

she is bought and paid for. she is being paid to sabotage the biden agenda.

the only reason she is not switching to gop is because she would have to give up all of her power. she would just be one of the many. in the democratic party she has a say on anything the dems try to pass because she is a likely holdout on many bills.

Bought and paid by whom? As far as I can tell she is:

Pro choice
Pro gun control
Pro Obamacare
Pro Fed education standards
Anti-wall
Anti-kick out the immigrants

and more..

She's a pretty down the line Democrat and none of her key yes/no positions fall into the right side of the aisle. She's just right of most of the party, but does not cross the line. The difference is that she isn't moving her position right now. So I'm wondering what gets her there.

her net worth shot up from I believe 31k to over a million after becoming a senator...that's a huge increase in two years for a $174,000 a year position. I'd say follow the money. Follow the fortuitous investments etc. I'm sure some outlet will provide some insight if the stonewalling continues.

I call bullshit on that.

https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/kyrsten-sinema/net-worth?cid=N00033983&year=2018 Their data only goes to 2018 currently. If the current reporting of $1m is accurate we will know soon enough. It’s certainly not a stretch to say that something is off here.

yes, the website is. those are two entries of retirement plans in Arizona for public employees. first as a state rep then a state senator. before she served 3 terms in Congress, which she was seated in in 2018...Then she was elected to Senate...

mrussel1 said:

And if she is worth a million, it would be from legitimate book sales or the like. The two articles I read said that she accepted 750K in donations from pharmaceuticals. Maybe that's right but that doesn't go to her personally and then get reported in her net worth. The articles are connecting the two for the least sophisticated reader, without slandering her direclty.

My bad well I guess that clears it up. There is obviously no foul play with Sinema.

So we assume corruption based on twitter accusations? Is that where we are these days?

Isn't that why there was so much scrutiny of trump that came to nothing so far?

By your own logic, that means Sinema is clean.

Well obviously anyone that can not be proved guilty is completely innocent.

Really? This is where you are on this? Where is your source that she's worth a million? You're required to report this along with the nature of your assets. From where did this accusation come? You made it, so where did you discover it?

And Mickey is dead right on his comment from open secrets. It's seems accurate that was limited to state controlled retirement. No stocks, equity, nothing else.

This is why Rs win, if someone like sinema was distracting from their agenda Moscow Mitch would smoke them out. Meanwhile we benefit of the doubt ourselves back into republican control. And then people have the audacity to say this next election is the most important in your lifetime and this time we really will pass meaningful reform and legislation. Pfffft.

That's fine, I won't disagree with that. I also said a few times that I don't understand her end game yet. I get Manchin's. So she needs to be clear with what she wants for her state and get a deal done. She's not above criticism.

static111 · October 2021

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.

She needs a tan pantsuit.

I haven't figured her out. I mean I get Manchin, and I get he is representing his state which is pretty conservative, poor, and tied to dirty energy for jobs. But what's her story? I don't understand.

she is bought and paid for. she is being paid to sabotage the biden agenda.

the only reason she is not switching to gop is because she would have to give up all of her power. she would just be one of the many. in the democratic party she has a say on anything the dems try to pass because she is a likely holdout on many bills.

Bought and paid by whom? As far as I can tell she is:

Pro choice
Pro gun control
Pro Obamacare
Pro Fed education standards
Anti-wall
Anti-kick out the immigrants

and more..

She's a pretty down the line Democrat and none of her key yes/no positions fall into the right side of the aisle. She's just right of most of the party, but does not cross the line. The difference is that she isn't moving her position right now. So I'm wondering what gets her there.

her net worth shot up from I believe 31k to over a million after becoming a senator...that's a huge increase in two years for a $174,000 a year position. I'd say follow the money. Follow the fortuitous investments etc. I'm sure some outlet will provide some insight if the stonewalling continues.

I call bullshit on that.

https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/kyrsten-sinema/net-worth?cid=N00033983&year=2018 Their data only goes to 2018 currently. If the current reporting of $1m is accurate we will know soon enough. It’s certainly not a stretch to say that something is off here.

yes, the website is. those are two entries of retirement plans in Arizona for public employees. first as a state rep then a state senator. before she served 3 terms in Congress, which she was seated in in 2018...Then she was elected to Senate...

mrussel1 said:

And if she is worth a million, it would be from legitimate book sales or the like. The two articles I read said that she accepted 750K in donations from pharmaceuticals. Maybe that's right but that doesn't go to her personally and then get reported in her net worth. The articles are connecting the two for the least sophisticated reader, without slandering her direclty.

My bad well I guess that clears it up. There is obviously no foul play with Sinema.

So we assume corruption based on twitter accusations? Is that where we are these days?

Isn't that why there was so much scrutiny of trump that came to nothing so far?

By your own logic, that means Sinema is clean.

Well obviously anyone that can not be proved guilty is completely innocent.

Really? This is where you are on this? Where is your source that she's worth a million? You're required to report this along with the nature of your assets. From where did this accusation come? You made it, so where did you discover it?

And Mickey is dead right on his comment from open secrets. It's seems accurate that was limited to state controlled retirement. No stocks, equity, nothing else.

This is why Rs win, if someone like sinema was distracting from their agenda Moscow Mitch would smoke them out. Meanwhile we benefit of the doubt ourselves back into republican control. And then people have the audacity to say this next election is the most important in your lifetime and this time we really will pass meaningful reform and legislation. Pfffft.

That's fine, I won't disagree with that. I also said a few times that I don't understand her end game yet. I get Manchin's. So she needs to be clear with what she wants for her state and get a deal done. She's not above criticism.

Lately it seems that the only people that are happy with her in her state are Republicans. And she still has not made it clear what she wants for her state.

mrussel1 · October 2021

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.

She needs a tan pantsuit.

I haven't figured her out. I mean I get Manchin, and I get he is representing his state which is pretty conservative, poor, and tied to dirty energy for jobs. But what's her story? I don't understand.

she is bought and paid for. she is being paid to sabotage the biden agenda.

the only reason she is not switching to gop is because she would have to give up all of her power. she would just be one of the many. in the democratic party she has a say on anything the dems try to pass because she is a likely holdout on many bills.

Bought and paid by whom? As far as I can tell she is:

Pro choice
Pro gun control
Pro Obamacare
Pro Fed education standards
Anti-wall
Anti-kick out the immigrants

and more..

She's a pretty down the line Democrat and none of her key yes/no positions fall into the right side of the aisle. She's just right of most of the party, but does not cross the line. The difference is that she isn't moving her position right now. So I'm wondering what gets her there.

her net worth shot up from I believe 31k to over a million after becoming a senator...that's a huge increase in two years for a $174,000 a year position. I'd say follow the money. Follow the fortuitous investments etc. I'm sure some outlet will provide some insight if the stonewalling continues.

I call bullshit on that.

https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/kyrsten-sinema/net-worth?cid=N00033983&year=2018 Their data only goes to 2018 currently. If the current reporting of $1m is accurate we will know soon enough. It’s certainly not a stretch to say that something is off here.

yes, the website is. those are two entries of retirement plans in Arizona for public employees. first as a state rep then a state senator. before she served 3 terms in Congress, which she was seated in in 2018...Then she was elected to Senate...

mrussel1 said:

And if she is worth a million, it would be from legitimate book sales or the like. The two articles I read said that she accepted 750K in donations from pharmaceuticals. Maybe that's right but that doesn't go to her personally and then get reported in her net worth. The articles are connecting the two for the least sophisticated reader, without slandering her direclty.

My bad well I guess that clears it up. There is obviously no foul play with Sinema.

So we assume corruption based on twitter accusations? Is that where we are these days?

Isn't that why there was so much scrutiny of trump that came to nothing so far?

By your own logic, that means Sinema is clean.

Well obviously anyone that can not be proved guilty is completely innocent.

Really? This is where you are on this? Where is your source that she's worth a million? You're required to report this along with the nature of your assets. From where did this accusation come? You made it, so where did you discover it?

And Mickey is dead right on his comment from open secrets. It's seems accurate that was limited to state controlled retirement. No stocks, equity, nothing else.

This is why Rs win, if someone like sinema was distracting from their agenda Moscow Mitch would smoke them out. Meanwhile we benefit of the doubt ourselves back into republican control. And then people have the audacity to say this next election is the most important in your lifetime and this time we really will pass meaningful reform and legislation. Pfffft.

That's fine, I won't disagree with that. I also said a few times that I don't understand her end game yet. I get Manchin's. So she needs to be clear with what she wants for her state and get a deal done. She's not above criticism.

Lately it seems that the only people that are happy with her in her state are Republicans. And she still has not made it clear what she wants for her state.

Agreed, she's an enigma. H2M's post from that Politico article is pretty clear that's their conclusion too. It's interesting that they make a point that she uses the other side of the aisle and manipulates people into support. That's pretty clever. I don't know if that's her long game here or not. Probably too early to say. But this is much higher stakes than AZ house stuff so she better play her winning hand soon.

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