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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,093
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.


    She needs a tan pantsuit.
    I haven't figured her out.  I mean I get Manchin, and I get he is representing his state which is pretty conservative, poor, and tied to dirty energy for jobs.  But what's her story?  I don't understand. 
    she is bought and paid for. she is being paid to sabotage the biden agenda.

    the only reason she is not switching to gop is because she would have to give up all of her power. she would just be one of the many. in the democratic party she has a say on anything the dems try to pass because she is a likely holdout on many bills.
    Bought and paid by whom?  As far as I can tell she is:

    Pro choice
    Pro gun control
    Pro Obamacare
    Pro Fed education standards
    Anti-wall
    Anti-kick out the immigrants

    and more..

    She's a pretty down the line Democrat and none of her key yes/no positions fall into the right side of the aisle.  She's just right of most of the party, but does not cross the line.  The difference is that she isn't moving her position right now.  So I'm wondering what gets her there. 
    her net worth shot up from I believe 31k to over a million after becoming a senator...that's a huge increase in two years for a $174,000 a year position. I'd say follow the money. Follow the fortuitous investments etc.  I'm sure some outlet will provide some insight if the stonewalling continues.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.


    She needs a tan pantsuit.
    I haven't figured her out.  I mean I get Manchin, and I get he is representing his state which is pretty conservative, poor, and tied to dirty energy for jobs.  But what's her story?  I don't understand. 
    she is bought and paid for. she is being paid to sabotage the biden agenda.

    the only reason she is not switching to gop is because she would have to give up all of her power. she would just be one of the many. in the democratic party she has a say on anything the dems try to pass because she is a likely holdout on many bills.
    Bought and paid by whom?  As far as I can tell she is:

    Pro choice
    Pro gun control
    Pro Obamacare
    Pro Fed education standards
    Anti-wall
    Anti-kick out the immigrants

    and more..

    She's a pretty down the line Democrat and none of her key yes/no positions fall into the right side of the aisle.  She's just right of most of the party, but does not cross the line.  The difference is that she isn't moving her position right now.  So I'm wondering what gets her there. 
    her net worth shot up from I believe 31k to over a million after becoming a senator...that's a huge increase in two years for a $174,000 a year position. I'd say follow the money. Follow the fortuitous investments etc.  I'm sure some outlet will provide some insight if the stonewalling continues.
    I wonder if there's ever been a senator who has not seen his or her new worth shoot way up after entering office...
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,488
    that is, in my opinion, the biggest issue facing american politics. the fact that this extreme lobbying is allowed. buying a politician is just done, wide out in the open. it's completely accepted. it's unbelievable. 
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,093
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.


    She needs a tan pantsuit.
    I haven't figured her out.  I mean I get Manchin, and I get he is representing his state which is pretty conservative, poor, and tied to dirty energy for jobs.  But what's her story?  I don't understand. 
    she is bought and paid for. she is being paid to sabotage the biden agenda.

    the only reason she is not switching to gop is because she would have to give up all of her power. she would just be one of the many. in the democratic party she has a say on anything the dems try to pass because she is a likely holdout on many bills.
    Bought and paid by whom?  As far as I can tell she is:

    Pro choice
    Pro gun control
    Pro Obamacare
    Pro Fed education standards
    Anti-wall
    Anti-kick out the immigrants

    and more..

    She's a pretty down the line Democrat and none of her key yes/no positions fall into the right side of the aisle.  She's just right of most of the party, but does not cross the line.  The difference is that she isn't moving her position right now.  So I'm wondering what gets her there. 
    her net worth shot up from I believe 31k to over a million after becoming a senator...that's a huge increase in two years for a $174,000 a year position. I'd say follow the money. Follow the fortuitous investments etc.  I'm sure some outlet will provide some insight if the stonewalling continues.
    I wonder if there's ever been a senator who has not seen his or her new worth shoot way up after entering office...
    5x her yearly salary in just 2 years seems an awful high shoot.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,472
    Settle down Karen.#FJB

    the thing that is funny is that you think you are triggering the dems with your memes. we just laugh at them.

    but your party has no platform other than owning and triggering the libs, so i honestly expect nothing else from you guys.
    You're wrong they do have a platform. It's  a multi- pronged platform made up of...

    Conspiracy theories
    Fear
    Hate
    Ignorance 
    Jealous 
    Lies
    Misogyny 
    Racism
    Xenophobia
    i detect no lies here. 

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.


    She needs a tan pantsuit.
    I haven't figured her out.  I mean I get Manchin, and I get he is representing his state which is pretty conservative, poor, and tied to dirty energy for jobs.  But what's her story?  I don't understand. 
    she is bought and paid for. she is being paid to sabotage the biden agenda.

    the only reason she is not switching to gop is because she would have to give up all of her power. she would just be one of the many. in the democratic party she has a say on anything the dems try to pass because she is a likely holdout on many bills.
    Bought and paid by whom?  As far as I can tell she is:

    Pro choice
    Pro gun control
    Pro Obamacare
    Pro Fed education standards
    Anti-wall
    Anti-kick out the immigrants

    and more..

    She's a pretty down the line Democrat and none of her key yes/no positions fall into the right side of the aisle.  She's just right of most of the party, but does not cross the line.  The difference is that she isn't moving her position right now.  So I'm wondering what gets her there. 
    her net worth shot up from I believe 31k to over a million after becoming a senator...that's a huge increase in two years for a $174,000 a year position. I'd say follow the money. Follow the fortuitous investments etc.  I'm sure some outlet will provide some insight if the stonewalling continues.
    I call bullshit on that.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    that is, in my opinion, the biggest issue facing american politics. the fact that this extreme lobbying is allowed. buying a politician is just done, wide out in the open. it's completely accepted. it's unbelievable. 
    This is bullshit too.  No offense. It's illegal and prosecuted.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    edited October 2021
    If Sinema was paid outside her 174k, that's a crime.  If she benefited by inside trading,  that's a crime.  Net worth from 31k to over a million in two years? Impossible.  It would be all over the FBI radar. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,472
    mrussel1 said:
    If Sinema was paid outside her 174k, that's a crime.  If she benefited by inside trading,  that's a crime.  Net worth from 31k to over a million in two years? Impossible.  It would be all over the FBI radar. 

    did she "write" a book?
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,472
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    If Sinema was paid outside her 174k, that's a crime.  If she benefited by inside trading,  that's a crime.  Net worth from 31k to over a million in two years? Impossible.  It would be all over the FBI radar. 

    did she "write" a book?

    she has. 2. 2009(see screen shot) and one on Rwanda in 2015...
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.


    She needs a tan pantsuit.
    I haven't figured her out.  I mean I get Manchin, and I get he is representing his state which is pretty conservative, poor, and tied to dirty energy for jobs.  But what's her story?  I don't understand. 
    she is bought and paid for. she is being paid to sabotage the biden agenda.

    the only reason she is not switching to gop is because she would have to give up all of her power. she would just be one of the many. in the democratic party she has a say on anything the dems try to pass because she is a likely holdout on many bills.
    Bought and paid by whom?  As far as I can tell she is:

    Pro choice
    Pro gun control
    Pro Obamacare
    Pro Fed education standards
    Anti-wall
    Anti-kick out the immigrants

    and more..

    She's a pretty down the line Democrat and none of her key yes/no positions fall into the right side of the aisle.  She's just right of most of the party, but does not cross the line.  The difference is that she isn't moving her position right now.  So I'm wondering what gets her there. 
    for starters she can speak to her constituents. here she is apologizing to tim scott, republican, because a constituent is asking her a question.



    she is against climate change legislation, which is probably the biggest issue of our time.

    she sucked up to mcconnell just before doing the famous "thumbs down" on the minimum wage hike, which is also a cornerstone of the dem platform.

    i've got other examples but will have to come back and provide them due to work.

    2 people are holding up all of the progress. manchin has a thread. she is the other one, and she deserves ridicule.


    1. I don't think she has an obligation to stop and talk to anyone who wants to talk to her in the airport.  How many times do you think this has happened to her?  How many times would you put up with it, especially when the person's questions are about lobbyists and corporate donors.  Oh yeah, and there's someone on teh other side filming.  Fuck that, I wouldn't talk to her either.  

    2. Why do you think she is against climate change legislation? Just becuase someone votes against a particular bill doesn't mean they are climate deniers.  This is too general of  astatement and every thing I've read about her in the past is she is for climate legislation and thinks we should regulate and reduce green house gases.  

    I have no opinion of her.  But she's a democrat.. sorry.  If you are pro choice, pro gun control, pro obamacare, you're a D.  Maybe she isn't D enough for everyone, but she's a D.  My questino is what is her end game. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    If Sinema was paid outside her 174k, that's a crime.  If she benefited by inside trading,  that's a crime.  Net worth from 31k to over a million in two years? Impossible.  It would be all over the FBI radar. 

    did she "write" a book?
    Why is that in quotes?  

    Is writing a book now the same as taking bribes and getting insider trading?  Bernie wrote some fucking books too.  
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,472
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    If Sinema was paid outside her 174k, that's a crime.  If she benefited by inside trading,  that's a crime.  Net worth from 31k to over a million in two years? Impossible.  It would be all over the FBI radar. 

    did she "write" a book?
    Why is that in quotes?  

    Is writing a book now the same as taking bribes and getting insider trading?  Bernie wrote some fucking books too.  

    usually done by ghost writer, no?
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    If Sinema was paid outside her 174k, that's a crime.  If she benefited by inside trading,  that's a crime.  Net worth from 31k to over a million in two years? Impossible.  It would be all over the FBI radar. 

    did she "write" a book?
    Why is that in quotes?  

    Is writing a book now the same as taking bribes and getting insider trading?  Bernie wrote some fucking books too.  

    usually done by ghost writer, no?
    Maybe.  Certainly for some.  But doesn't make a difference. It isn't corrupt. 

    Didn't you say they were written before she was senator?
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,472
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    If Sinema was paid outside her 174k, that's a crime.  If she benefited by inside trading,  that's a crime.  Net worth from 31k to over a million in two years? Impossible.  It would be all over the FBI radar. 

    did she "write" a book?
    Why is that in quotes?  

    Is writing a book now the same as taking bribes and getting insider trading?  Bernie wrote some fucking books too.  

    usually done by ghost writer, no?
    Maybe.  Certainly for some.  But doesn't make a difference. It isn't corrupt. 

    Didn't you say they were written before she was senator?

    yes, Arizona House for the one I screenshotted and US House for the second in 2015
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,426
    here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.


    What you  can't  see are the cargo shorts and flip flops
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,093
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.


    She needs a tan pantsuit.
    I haven't figured her out.  I mean I get Manchin, and I get he is representing his state which is pretty conservative, poor, and tied to dirty energy for jobs.  But what's her story?  I don't understand. 
    she is bought and paid for. she is being paid to sabotage the biden agenda.

    the only reason she is not switching to gop is because she would have to give up all of her power. she would just be one of the many. in the democratic party she has a say on anything the dems try to pass because she is a likely holdout on many bills.
    Bought and paid by whom?  As far as I can tell she is:

    Pro choice
    Pro gun control
    Pro Obamacare
    Pro Fed education standards
    Anti-wall
    Anti-kick out the immigrants

    and more..

    She's a pretty down the line Democrat and none of her key yes/no positions fall into the right side of the aisle.  She's just right of most of the party, but does not cross the line.  The difference is that she isn't moving her position right now.  So I'm wondering what gets her there. 
    her net worth shot up from I believe 31k to over a million after becoming a senator...that's a huge increase in two years for a $174,000 a year position. I'd say follow the money. Follow the fortuitous investments etc.  I'm sure some outlet will provide some insight if the stonewalling continues.
    I call bullshit on that.  
    https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/kyrsten-sinema/net-worth?cid=N00033983&year=2018  Their data only goes to 2018 currently.   If the current reporting of $1m is accurate we will know soon enough.  It’s certainly not a stretch to say that something is off here.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.


    She needs a tan pantsuit.
    I haven't figured her out.  I mean I get Manchin, and I get he is representing his state which is pretty conservative, poor, and tied to dirty energy for jobs.  But what's her story?  I don't understand. 
    she is bought and paid for. she is being paid to sabotage the biden agenda.

    the only reason she is not switching to gop is because she would have to give up all of her power. she would just be one of the many. in the democratic party she has a say on anything the dems try to pass because she is a likely holdout on many bills.
    Bought and paid by whom?  As far as I can tell she is:

    Pro choice
    Pro gun control
    Pro Obamacare
    Pro Fed education standards
    Anti-wall
    Anti-kick out the immigrants

    and more..

    She's a pretty down the line Democrat and none of her key yes/no positions fall into the right side of the aisle.  She's just right of most of the party, but does not cross the line.  The difference is that she isn't moving her position right now.  So I'm wondering what gets her there. 
    her net worth shot up from I believe 31k to over a million after becoming a senator...that's a huge increase in two years for a $174,000 a year position. I'd say follow the money. Follow the fortuitous investments etc.  I'm sure some outlet will provide some insight if the stonewalling continues.
    I call bullshit on that.  
    https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/kyrsten-sinema/net-worth?cid=N00033983&year=2018  Their data only goes to 2018 currently.   If the current reporting of $1m is accurate we will know soon enough.  It’s certainly not a stretch to say that something is off here.
    Do you really think she is so stupid as to pocket 800K in illegal, corrupt payments AND THEN report it as required by law?  I did some quick internet sleuthing and there is no basis for the $1MM net worth and the 30K is an estimate by open secrets.  It seems like twitter is driving this narrative.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    And if she is worth a million, it would be from legitimate book sales or the like.  The two articles I read said that she accepted 750K in donations from pharmaceuticals.  Maybe that's right but that doesn't go to her personally and then get reported in her net worth.  The articles are connecting the two for the least sophisticated reader, without slandering her direclty.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,472
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    here is one of the two people blowing up biden's agenda. nothing pisses me off more than people who constantly underdress. she is in the senate chamber and as far as i know it is not casual friday. it's like "i am gonna show up to work dressing like some of the insurrectionists" or something. maybe she is dressing for the job she wants, ie no longer in the senate, rather than the job she has.


    She needs a tan pantsuit.
    I haven't figured her out.  I mean I get Manchin, and I get he is representing his state which is pretty conservative, poor, and tied to dirty energy for jobs.  But what's her story?  I don't understand. 
    she is bought and paid for. she is being paid to sabotage the biden agenda.

    the only reason she is not switching to gop is because she would have to give up all of her power. she would just be one of the many. in the democratic party she has a say on anything the dems try to pass because she is a likely holdout on many bills.
    Bought and paid by whom?  As far as I can tell she is:

    Pro choice
    Pro gun control
    Pro Obamacare
    Pro Fed education standards
    Anti-wall
    Anti-kick out the immigrants

    and more..

    She's a pretty down the line Democrat and none of her key yes/no positions fall into the right side of the aisle.  She's just right of most of the party, but does not cross the line.  The difference is that she isn't moving her position right now.  So I'm wondering what gets her there. 
    her net worth shot up from I believe 31k to over a million after becoming a senator...that's a huge increase in two years for a $174,000 a year position. I'd say follow the money. Follow the fortuitous investments etc.  I'm sure some outlet will provide some insight if the stonewalling continues.
    I call bullshit on that.  
    https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/kyrsten-sinema/net-worth?cid=N00033983&year=2018  Their data only goes to 2018 currently.   If the current reporting of $1m is accurate we will know soon enough.  It’s certainly not a stretch to say that something is off here.

    yes, the website is. those are two entries of retirement plans in Arizona for public employees. first as a state rep then a state senator. before she served 3 terms in Congress, which she was seated in in 2018...Then she was elected to Senate...
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