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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I'd like to think that channels you, me, and millions of others...we all wrote it.
    That piece’ll really have an effect on those who’ve elected to not get vaxxed.
    Sometimes you just have to vent...
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    edited September 2021
    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I'd like to think that channels you, me, and millions of others...we all wrote it.
    That piece’ll really have an effect on those who’ve elected to not get vaxxed.

    -- It's McSweeney's, not The Atlantic;

    -- The author says it's targeted at two groups, and if someone sent it to you and you're not vaccinated, at least one person still cares about you;

    -- Even my mother-in--law, who might be the nicest person in the country, has choice words for people who are refusing the vaccine. The frustration is real.

    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I'd like to think that channels you, me, and millions of others...we all wrote it.
    That piece’ll really have an effect on those who’ve elected to not get vaxxed.
    Because those who've elected not to get vaxxed are just waiting for a nicely written piece to politely convince them? 


    I get the point you're trying to make, but OTOH, the majority of Americans who have taken the vaccine and want to be done with this pandemic are fed the fuck up with the vaccine resistors, and it's past time we stop coddling them like children. 
    OnWis97 said:
    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I'd like to think that channels you, me, and millions of others...we all wrote it.
    That piece’ll really have an effect on those who’ve elected to not get vaxxed.
    Sometimes you just have to vent...
    bingo bango bongo. some just choose to shit on everything they see. 
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,076
    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I'd like to think that channels you, me, and millions of others...we all wrote it.
    That piece’ll really have an effect on those who’ve elected to not get vaxxed.
    Because those who've elected not to get vaxxed are just waiting for a nicely written piece to politely convince them? 


    I get the point you're trying to make, but OTOH, the majority of Americans who have taken the vaccine and want to be done with this pandemic are fed the fuck up with the vaccine resistors, and it's past time we stop coddling them like children. 
    Forgive my ignorance.  Speaking as a fully vaccinated person my understanding is that the vaccines won’t stop the pandemic, just keep you from getting very sick and dying.  So if the virus still passes amongst the vaccinated and non vaccinated and with billions of unvaccinated people worldwide, how will everyone in the United States being vaccinated stop the pandemic.  And honestly if it is just a pandemic of the unvaccinated let the chips fall where they may
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  • Gern Blansten
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    static111 said:
    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I'd like to think that channels you, me, and millions of others...we all wrote it.
    That piece’ll really have an effect on those who’ve elected to not get vaxxed.
    Because those who've elected not to get vaxxed are just waiting for a nicely written piece to politely convince them? 


    I get the point you're trying to make, but OTOH, the majority of Americans who have taken the vaccine and want to be done with this pandemic are fed the fuck up with the vaccine resistors, and it's past time we stop coddling them like children. 
    Forgive my ignorance.  Speaking as a fully vaccinated person my understanding is that the vaccines won’t stop the pandemic, just keep you from getting very sick and dying.  So if the virus still passes amongst the vaccinated and non vaccinated and with billions of unvaccinated people worldwide, how will everyone in the United States being vaccinated stop the pandemic.  And honestly if it is just a pandemic of the unvaccinated let the chips fall where they may
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  • static111 said:
    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I'd like to think that channels you, me, and millions of others...we all wrote it.
    That piece’ll really have an effect on those who’ve elected to not get vaxxed.
    Because those who've elected not to get vaxxed are just waiting for a nicely written piece to politely convince them? 


    I get the point you're trying to make, but OTOH, the majority of Americans who have taken the vaccine and want to be done with this pandemic are fed the fuck up with the vaccine resistors, and it's past time we stop coddling them like children. 
    Forgive my ignorance.  Speaking as a fully vaccinated person my understanding is that the vaccines won’t stop the pandemic, just keep you from getting very sick and dying.  So if the virus still passes amongst the vaccinated and non vaccinated and with billions of unvaccinated people worldwide, how will everyone in the United States being vaccinated stop the pandemic.  And honestly if it is just a pandemic of the unvaccinated let the chips fall where they may

    You should read up on the burden the unvaccinated are putting on our health care system, and more specifically the health care workers on the frontlines. 
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    That was great; I especially liked the part about someone loving you enough to try and get you to get vaxxed so you won't drown in your own lungs. 
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  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    static111 said:
    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I'd like to think that channels you, me, and millions of others...we all wrote it.
    That piece’ll really have an effect on those who’ve elected to not get vaxxed.
    Because those who've elected not to get vaxxed are just waiting for a nicely written piece to politely convince them? 


    I get the point you're trying to make, but OTOH, the majority of Americans who have taken the vaccine and want to be done with this pandemic are fed the fuck up with the vaccine resistors, and it's past time we stop coddling them like children. 
    Forgive my ignorance.  Speaking as a fully vaccinated person my understanding is that the vaccines won’t stop the pandemic, just keep you from getting very sick and dying.  So if the virus still passes amongst the vaccinated and non vaccinated and with billions of unvaccinated people worldwide, how will everyone in the United States being vaccinated stop the pandemic.  And honestly if it is just a pandemic of the unvaccinated let the chips fall where they may

    You should read up on the burden the unvaccinated are putting on our health care system, and more specifically the health care workers on the frontlines. 

    Yeah, this.

    1) I've seen some VERY angry people locally, where our vax rate is very good, complaining that loved ones with cancer are having to postpone treatments because the hospitals are full of COVID cases. Those COVID cases are overwhelmingly unvaccinated, so their choice is affecting others.

    2) Ditto for spouses/ partners of healthcare workers, who are damn sick and tired of having their loved ones exposed to unnecessary risk because people refused to get vaccinated and then ran to the ER when they caught COVID.

    3) Things have changed with delta, but previously, vaccinated people were very, very unlikely to transmit COVID to others. Doctors are finding high viral loads in vaccinated people with the delta variant, but since vaccinated people remain much less likely to get infected, they still are less likely to spread it, so more vaccinated people = fewer hosts = fewer spreaders. 
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  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    Two shots now. I AM A GOLDEN GOD

    Congratulations! Licking doorknobs and kissing strangers both continue to be discouraged, but otherwise, great!
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I'd like to think that channels you, me, and millions of others...we all wrote it.
    That piece’ll really have an effect on those who’ve elected to not get vaxxed.

    -- It's McSweeney's, not The Atlantic;

    -- The author says it's targeted at two groups, and if someone sent it to you and you're not vaccinated, at least one person still cares about you;

    -- Even my mother-in--law, who might be the nicest person in the country, has choice words for people who are refusing the vaccine. The frustration is real.

    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I'd like to think that channels you, me, and millions of others...we all wrote it.
    That piece’ll really have an effect on those who’ve elected to not get vaxxed.
    Because those who've elected not to get vaxxed are just waiting for a nicely written piece to politely convince them? 


    I get the point you're trying to make, but OTOH, the majority of Americans who have taken the vaccine and want to be done with this pandemic are fed the fuck up with the vaccine resistors, and it's past time we stop coddling them like children. 
    OnWis97 said:
    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I'd like to think that channels you, me, and millions of others...we all wrote it.
    That piece’ll really have an effect on those who’ve elected to not get vaxxed.
    Sometimes you just have to vent...
    bingo bango bongo. some just choose to shit on everything they see. 
    Kind of how the McSweeney's author chooses to shit all over folks who made a personal health decision.

    I mean, I get it, but to be fair....

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  • Two shots now. I AM A GOLDEN GOD
    Dont want to piss on the parade but people here are still very ill with 2. But i commend you as one of us now.


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  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,529
    static111 said:
    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I'd like to think that channels you, me, and millions of others...we all wrote it.
    That piece’ll really have an effect on those who’ve elected to not get vaxxed.
    Because those who've elected not to get vaxxed are just waiting for a nicely written piece to politely convince them? 


    I get the point you're trying to make, but OTOH, the majority of Americans who have taken the vaccine and want to be done with this pandemic are fed the fuck up with the vaccine resistors, and it's past time we stop coddling them like children. 
    Forgive my ignorance.  Speaking as a fully vaccinated person my understanding is that the vaccines won’t stop the pandemic, just keep you from getting very sick and dying.  So if the virus still passes amongst the vaccinated and non vaccinated and with billions of unvaccinated people worldwide, how will everyone in the United States being vaccinated stop the pandemic.  And honestly if it is just a pandemic of the unvaccinated let the chips fall where they may

    You should read up on the burden the unvaccinated are putting on our health care system, and more specifically the health care workers on the frontlines. 
    Yup. I’m in need of getting a shoulder fixed. It’s not an emergency, but it needs to be done sometime. My doctor has basically told me over the past year to just live with a bum arm until the COVID shit subsides. Plus, who wants to go to a hospital that’s full of horse paste eaters? Not me.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,077
    my company finally came out with vaccine mandate today for all customer facing staff. meaning any sales reps, managers, marketing staff, r&d staff, anybody that may set foot inside a hospital or surgery center for any reason must be fully vaccinated by nov 30 or be fired. prior to today it had been optional due to company hq being in florida.

    i guess we are losing too many sales because covid is not going away and hospitals in this country are too full with unvaccinated covid patients to do any elective surgery.
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    my company finally came out with vaccine mandate today for all customer facing staff. meaning any sales reps, managers, marketing staff, r&d staff, anybody that may set foot inside a hospital or surgery center for any reason must be fully vaccinated by nov 30 or be fired. prior to today it had been optional due to company hq being in florida.

    i guess we are losing too many sales because covid is not going away and hospitals in this country are too full with unvaccinated covid patients to do any elective surgery.
    I don't think employees from my company ever set foot in a hospital, except for maybe research. Still, we mandated vaccinations for all employees based in our US offices about a month ago, even for folks working from home.

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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    dankind said:
    my company finally came out with vaccine mandate today for all customer facing staff. meaning any sales reps, managers, marketing staff, r&d staff, anybody that may set foot inside a hospital or surgery center for any reason must be fully vaccinated by nov 30 or be fired. prior to today it had been optional due to company hq being in florida.

    i guess we are losing too many sales because covid is not going away and hospitals in this country are too full with unvaccinated covid patients to do any elective surgery.
    I don't think employees from my company ever set foot in a hospital, except for maybe research. Still, we mandated vaccinations for all employees based in our US offices about a month ago, even for folks working from home.

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    static111 said:
    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I'd like to think that channels you, me, and millions of others...we all wrote it.
    That piece’ll really have an effect on those who’ve elected to not get vaxxed.
    Because those who've elected not to get vaxxed are just waiting for a nicely written piece to politely convince them? 


    I get the point you're trying to make, but OTOH, the majority of Americans who have taken the vaccine and want to be done with this pandemic are fed the fuck up with the vaccine resistors, and it's past time we stop coddling them like children. 
    Forgive my ignorance.  Speaking as a fully vaccinated person my understanding is that the vaccines won’t stop the pandemic, just keep you from getting very sick and dying.  So if the virus still passes amongst the vaccinated and non vaccinated and with billions of unvaccinated people worldwide, how will everyone in the United States being vaccinated stop the pandemic.  And honestly if it is just a pandemic of the unvaccinated let the chips fall where they may
    I don't think this is true.  The vaccine does pass to and from vaxed but at a much lower rate.  So if the rate is say... 20%... it could really reduce to almost nothing. It will come back seasonally for sure though.  But again,  having a community at 70% vaccinated can reduce the spread greatly. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    it's harder to pass the virus to others if you are vaxxed, because:

    -it lessens/can lessen the viral load in people with breakthrough cases
    -it spreads easier through symptomatic people (sneezes go a lot farther than just speaking normally), so if most people who are vaccinated remain asymptomatic, the less the spread. 
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I'd like to think that channels you, me, and millions of others...we all wrote it.
    That piece’ll really have an effect on those who’ve elected to not get vaxxed.

    -- It's McSweeney's, not The Atlantic;

    -- The author says it's targeted at two groups, and if someone sent it to you and you're not vaccinated, at least one person still cares about you;

    -- Even my mother-in--law, who might be the nicest person in the country, has choice words for people who are refusing the vaccine. The frustration is real.

    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I'd like to think that channels you, me, and millions of others...we all wrote it.
    That piece’ll really have an effect on those who’ve elected to not get vaxxed.
    Because those who've elected not to get vaxxed are just waiting for a nicely written piece to politely convince them? 


    I get the point you're trying to make, but OTOH, the majority of Americans who have taken the vaccine and want to be done with this pandemic are fed the fuck up with the vaccine resistors, and it's past time we stop coddling them like children. 
    OnWis97 said:
    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I'd like to think that channels you, me, and millions of others...we all wrote it.
    That piece’ll really have an effect on those who’ve elected to not get vaxxed.
    Sometimes you just have to vent...
    bingo bango bongo. some just choose to shit on everything they see. 
    Please, get over yourself.

    Merkin, I appreciate your response. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    edited September 2021
    hedonist said:
    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I'd like to think that channels you, me, and millions of others...we all wrote it.
    That piece’ll really have an effect on those who’ve elected to not get vaxxed.

    -- It's McSweeney's, not The Atlantic;

    -- The author says it's targeted at two groups, and if someone sent it to you and you're not vaccinated, at least one person still cares about you;

    -- Even my mother-in--law, who might be the nicest person in the country, has choice words for people who are refusing the vaccine. The frustration is real.

    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I'd like to think that channels you, me, and millions of others...we all wrote it.
    That piece’ll really have an effect on those who’ve elected to not get vaxxed.
    Because those who've elected not to get vaxxed are just waiting for a nicely written piece to politely convince them? 


    I get the point you're trying to make, but OTOH, the majority of Americans who have taken the vaccine and want to be done with this pandemic are fed the fuck up with the vaccine resistors, and it's past time we stop coddling them like children. 
    OnWis97 said:
    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I'd like to think that channels you, me, and millions of others...we all wrote it.
    That piece’ll really have an effect on those who’ve elected to not get vaxxed.
    Sometimes you just have to vent...
    bingo bango bongo. some just choose to shit on everything they see. 
    Please, get over yourself.

    Merkin, I appreciate your response. 
    what, you don't like the game bingo bango bongo?

    https://golf.com/lifestyle/how-to-play-bingo-bango-bongo/

    you should try it out sometime. 
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    edited September 2021
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