Breyer turned down the challenge in the NE. Our employment law outside counsel believes the rules will stay based on previous deference given to OSHA and the executive branch in times of emergency. There just had to be an end date.
Do you mean that if the mandate has a firm end date that it is legal and fair? If so that means "they" would have to dedicate a date to when the mandate would end?
Breyer turned down the challenge in the NE. Our employment law outside counsel believes the rules will stay based on previous deference given to OSHA and the executive branch in times of emergency. There just had to be an end date.
Do you mean that if the mandate has a firm end date that it is legal and fair? If so that means "they" would have to dedicate a date to when the mandate would end?
IN times of emergency, broad powers are given to the executive branch. But these powers are not without limits. If there is not a reasonable end time, the court would expect this type of thing to be taken up by the legislative branch. We've been consulting outside counsel, as I mentioned, and they think it will stand. The SCOTUS has thus far refused to even hear a case on this. Typically that means they believe it to be settled law.
If your kid is eligible to be vaccinated and you choose not to then don’t expect society to pussy foot around your decisions…of course when billions are being vaccinated in mass some people will experience side effects … and that’s life.
Do you trust vaccines or not?
My mom grew up in the polio era…she was grateful for the polio vaccine.
If your kid had cancer would you deny them chemo to keep them alive? How about juvenile diabetes? Would you deny them life saving insulin?
Do you have kids? You come off as you do not with these comments. Comparing cancer and chemotherapy or insulin to getting a vaccine for covid are very poor comparisons. If you do have kids that are 5-11 in age and are getting them vaccinated that is great. That is your decision. I on the other hand am waiting a couple of months before we decide, There is under 1000 cases in my province right now, If I lived in a big city or province my thoughts maybe different.
I have kids aged 4 and 7 and I agree with Meltdown.
7 year old got his first dose on Friday.
Everybody is going to come into contact with covid sooner or later. Not to mention I feel safer having at least one of my children partially vaccinated around his grandparents this Christmas.
Getting our kids vaccinated is an absolute no-brainer and the right thing to do.
You agree it is as important as giving insulin to a diabetic child or chemo therapy to a child with cancer?
That is great the decision is easy for you and a no brainer. For me it is not.
If and when the 5th wave hits I want my child to be fully vaccinated. You can't vaccinate you kids and expect to be protected immediately.
I'm not going to wait till it's pouring to look for an umbrella.
I am happy for you and your family and I am not saying you are making the wrong choice. By the sounds of it you are making the right choice for you. What works for you does not necessarily work for me however. We do not have large waves here like other cities. The risk is much lower. That is why I am not in a rush to have them go out and get it. After Christmas passes I will reevaluate if we feel it is the necessary choice. There has not been one positive case in their school this year or last.
I would like to ask the question again however since you did not answer it. You said you agreed with Meltdown. Do you really think covid vaccination for kids is comparable to insulin or chemotherapy?
What works for you does not necessarily work for me however.
We do not have large waves here like other cities.
The risk is much lower.
That's not how vaccines work
Yes you do
No it isn't
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What works for you does not necessarily work for me however.
We do not have large waves here like other cities.
The risk is much lower.
That's not how vaccines work
Yes you do
No it isn't
Population density matters.
when winnipeg is one quarter the population density as toronto, but had the same infection rate per capita as of a year ago, I'd love to say you're right, but you just aren't.
What works for you does not necessarily work for me however.
We do not have large waves here like other cities.
The risk is much lower.
That's not how vaccines work
Yes you do
No it isn't
Population density matters.
when winnipeg is one quarter the population density as toronto, but has the same infection rate per capita as of today, I'd love to say you're right, but you just aren't.
I am comparing a town of 10K to a larger city here. Winnipeg is smaller than Toronto yes but in my case where I live that close of a comparison is not what I am talking about.
Side note I am actually surprised that per 1000 people Manitoba has more cases than Ontario.
i sure wish Ontario had a plan for boosters for everyone…
It may not be a plan as concrete as you would like (or were aware of), but here it is, very clearly stating that in Early 2022, everyone 12 or older will be eligible for the booster.
i sure wish Ontario had a plan for boosters for everyone…
It may not be a plan as concrete as you would like (or were aware of), but here it is, very clearly stating that in Early 2022, everyone 12 or older will be eligible for the booster.
i sure wish Ontario had a plan for boosters for everyone…
It may not be a plan as concrete as you would like (or were aware of), but here it is, very clearly stating that in Early 2022, everyone 12 or older will be eligible for the booster.
i sure wish Ontario had a plan for boosters for everyone…
It may not be a plan as concrete as you would like (or were aware of), but here it is, very clearly stating that in Early 2022, everyone 12 or older will be eligible for the booster.
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I have a 5-11 vaccine appointment booked for my child. BC starting booking appointments yesterday for those already registered on a first-registered-first-offered basis. I had registered my child in October when prompted by the health minister.
What I've gathered, thus far, is that no safety signals were set off for the first million 5-11 US kids, which eases my mind more than just the initial 2000 or so kids that got the vaccine in the 3000ish child trials. Thanks again, brave, caring parents!
I still will seek more information on how a vaccine which may not target the spike proteins on the next variant is useful, like by having some t-helpers cells ready to fight infection. Hopefully, there are benefits physically for her, rather than just helping out our provincial community that already has 85% or more of our 5+ population vaccinated.
Mostly, I read when variants like Delta, who have mutated spike proteins, to a lesser degree than Omricon, that escape vacinne induced immunity, at least there is a degree of less severe outcomes. Since severe outcomes are so low in my child's age group, again I hope that at least her t-cells will be boosted?
I haven't seen any data yet that omicron escapes vaccine immunity. have you?
There are 2 triple vaxxed docs in Isreal with omricon that wscaped their immunity. Perhaps, it is the many mutations similar to Beta that this worry and trend comes from. This is why borders shut down. Also lots of chatter about reinfection.
So ya, in this respect vaccinating children a month from now may have reduced efficacy. Maybe I'll wait for more data.
I haven't seen any data yet that omicron escapes vaccine immunity. have you?
There are 2 triple vaxxed docs in Isreal with omricon that wscaped their immunity. Perhaps, it is the many mutations similar to Beta that this worry and trend comes from. This is why borders shut down. Also lots of chatter about reinfection.
So ya, in this respect vaccinating children a month from now may have reduced efficacy. Maybe I'll wait for more data.
2 people. that's an infinitesimal data pool. it basically means nothing at this point.
Talking to a friend who works in the medical field. She mentioned blood clotting and ventilators. I asked her if anything was written in journals and she was not aware of it so I'll ask if anyone has read about this?
"At first covid patients whom were having difficulty breathing were put on ventilators. This would often cause blood clots and other problems. Only a third of them would survive."
If this was discussed I missed it. Just curious if there are any recent articles as I can only find some from the summer.
Talking to a friend who works in the medical field. She mentioned blood clotting and ventilators. I asked her if anything was written in journals and she was not aware of it so I'll ask if anyone has read about this?
"At first covid patients whom were having difficulty breathing were put on ventilators. This would often cause blood clots and other problems. Only a third of them would survive."
If this was discussed I missed it. Just curious if there are any recent articles as I can only find some from the summer.
Isn't it true that anyone in long term sedentary positions are prone to blood clots? That's why they give you that stupid shot in your stomach that burns like hell. It is to prevent the clots.
I haven't seen any data yet that omicron escapes vaccine immunity. have you?
There are 2 triple vaxxed docs in Isreal with omricon that wscaped their immunity. Perhaps, it is the many mutations similar to Beta that this worry and trend comes from. This is why borders shut down. Also lots of chatter about reinfection.
So ya, in this respect vaccinating children a month from now may have reduced efficacy. Maybe I'll wait for more data.
2 people. that's an infinitesimal data pool. it basically means nothing at this point.
Also, who trusts anything coming out of Israel anymore as it relates to the pandemic? That is, other than those who like having their conspiracy theories validated by "research," of course.
Talking to a friend who works in the medical field. She mentioned blood clotting and ventilators. I asked her if anything was written in journals and she was not aware of it so I'll ask if anyone has read about this?
"At first covid patients whom were having difficulty breathing were put on ventilators. This would often cause blood clots and other problems. Only a third of them would survive."
If this was discussed I missed it. Just curious if there are any recent articles as I can only find some from the summer.
Isn't it true that anyone in long term sedentary positions are prone to blood clots? That's why they give you that stupid shot in your stomach that burns like hell. It is to prevent the clots.
If they did get blood clots then I guess another question would arise and did they administer that shot?
I haven't seen any data yet that omicron escapes vaccine immunity. have you?
There are 2 triple vaxxed docs in Isreal with omricon that wscaped their immunity. Perhaps, it is the many mutations similar to Beta that this worry and trend comes from. This is why borders shut down. Also lots of chatter about reinfection.
So ya, in this respect vaccinating children a month from now may have reduced efficacy. Maybe I'll wait for more data.
2 people. that's an infinitesimal data pool. it basically means nothing at this point.
Also, who trusts anything coming out of Israel anymore as it relates to the pandemic? That is, other than those who like having their conspiracy theories validated by "research," of course.
I'm out on the Israel findings considering no one else is replicating them.
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i sure wish Ontario had a plan for boosters for everyone…
You are ignoring the evidence.
I'm not going to wait till it's pouring to look for an umbrella.
I am happy for you and your family and I am not saying you are making the wrong choice. By the sounds of it you are making the right choice for you. What works for you does not necessarily work for me however. We do not have large waves here like other cities. The risk is much lower. That is why I am not in a rush to have them go out and get it. After Christmas passes I will reevaluate if we feel it is the necessary choice. There has not been one positive case in their school this year or last.
I would like to ask the question again however since you did not answer it. You said you agreed with Meltdown. Do you really think covid vaccination for kids is comparable to insulin or chemotherapy?
Yes you do
No it isn't
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Side note I am actually surprised that per 1000 people Manitoba has more cases than Ontario.
https://covid-19.ontario.ca/getting-covid-19-vaccine#booster-doses
I sure wish people confirmed what they believe to be true before sharing it...
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
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What I've gathered, thus far, is that no safety signals were set off for the first million 5-11 US kids, which eases my mind more than just the initial 2000 or so kids that got the vaccine in the 3000ish child trials. Thanks again, brave, caring parents!
I still will seek more information on how a vaccine which may not target the spike proteins on the next variant is useful, like by having some t-helpers cells ready to fight infection. Hopefully, there are benefits physically for her, rather than just helping out our provincial community that already has 85% or more of our 5+ population vaccinated.
Mostly, I read when variants like Delta, who have mutated spike proteins, to a lesser degree than Omricon, that escape vacinne induced immunity, at least there is a degree of less severe outcomes. Since severe outcomes are so low in my child's age group, again I hope that at least her t-cells will be boosted?
Medical immunity information or links welcome
www.headstonesband.com
This is why borders shut down. Also lots of chatter about reinfection.
So ya, in this respect vaccinating children a month from now may have reduced efficacy. Maybe I'll wait for more data.
www.headstonesband.com
"At first covid patients whom were having difficulty breathing were put on ventilators. This would often cause blood clots and other problems. Only a third of them would survive."
If this was discussed I missed it. Just curious if there are any recent articles as I can only find some from the summer.
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