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    gvn2fly1421 said:
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    Do you believe that your elected officials (Democrat or Republican) actually care about you and have your best interests in mind?
    And you expect “conversation” or “debate” or “honest answers?” How about answering the question? It’s a simple yes or no. Is it really that hard for you?
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    Faux News at it again. Suckers.

    Fox has quietly implemented its own version of a vaccine passport while its top personalities attack them - CNN
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    fuqer Qarlson is a piece of shit. As is anyone who watches and supports his fearful, hateful, ignorant,  racist anti-American bullshit..  

    Tucker Carlson attacks Black officer who says he was called the N-word during the Capitol riot. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tucker-carlson-attacks-black-officer-who-says-he-was-called-n1274694
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    Do you believe it’s right and should be legal for a bakery to deny service to a gay couple?
    Same ol tactics huh?  If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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    tempo_n_groove said:
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    Same ol tactics huh?  If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
    What tactics are you referring to? That both sides are the same? I never did get an answer. What are your thoughts on discrimination based on sexual orientation? Huh?
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    What tactics are you referring to? That both sides are the same? I never did get an answer. What are your thoughts on discrimination based on sexual orientation? Huh?
    I'm poking fun at you.  The flip side of that argument is (I think)what are your thoughts on religious discrimination?

    Edit: So this doesn't drag on, my comment was a total troll one and not need answered.
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    tempo_n_groove said:
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    I'm poking fun at you.  The flip side of that argument is (I think)what are your thoughts on religious discrimination?

    Edit: So this doesn't drag on, my comment was a total troll one and not need answered.
    I don’t think it’s religious discrimination for a religious zealot cake or flower shop owner to have to serve someone with a sexual orientation they don’t approve of. What are your thoughts?
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    I don’t think it’s religious discrimination for a religious zealot cake or flower shop owner to have to serve someone with a sexual orientation they don’t approve of. What are your thoughts?
    The bakery is open to the public but have the right to refuse service.

    If I put it another way where a man in a head scarf walks in to buy a cake for Ramadan decorated in Arabic and was refused, would your response be the same?  

    Personally I wouldn't go back to either bakery if the above scenarios happened but they should have the right to refuse service.
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    I’m all for keeping government out of private business but it’s hard to deny that anti discrimination legislation has been effective overall.

    I wonder if desegregation was viewed as religious discrimination at one point. 
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    tempo_n_groove said:
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    The bakery is open to the public but have the right to refuse service.

    If I put it another way where a man in a head scarf walks in to buy a cake for Ramadan decorated in Arabic and was refused, would your response be the same?  

    Personally I wouldn't go back to either bakery if the above scenarios happened but they should have the right to refuse service.
    Where does the "right to refuse service" end?

    Depends on the reason given. If its "we can't write in Arabic and it'd look like shit," or "sorry, we don't serve Muslims or Arabs," makes a difference. If I walk in wearing a cross and ask that my cake be made to resemble the Vatican and get refused because it'd be a pile resembling a pile of cake, that is not discriminatory. If I were refused because I was catholic, I'm not, I'm atheist, that would be discrimination.

    Personally, I wouldn't go back either but business owners shouldn't be allowed to refuse service, "just because." Would you be okay with a business refusing service because you're vaccinated/unvaccinated? Again, where does it end?
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    tempo_n_groove said:
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    The bakery is open to the public but have the right to refuse service.

    If I put it another way where a man in a head scarf walks in to buy a cake for Ramadan decorated in Arabic and was refused, would your response be the same?  

    Personally I wouldn't go back to either bakery if the above scenarios happened but they should have the right to refuse service.
    right to refuse service doesn't extend to discrimination. hence, we no longer have "whites only" signs anywhere. 
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    Where does the "right to refuse service" end?

    Depends on the reason given. If its "we can't write in Arabic and it'd look like shit," or "sorry, we don't serve Muslims or Arabs," makes a difference. If I walk in wearing a cross and ask that my cake be made to resemble the Vatican and get refused because it'd be a pile resembling a pile of cake, that is not discriminatory. If I were refused because I was catholic, I'm not, I'm atheist, that would be discrimination.

    Personally, I wouldn't go back either but business owners shouldn't be allowed to refuse service, "just because." Would you be okay with a business refusing service because you're vaccinated/unvaccinated? Again, where does it end?
    HughFreakingDillon said:
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    right to refuse service doesn't extend to discrimination. hence, we no longer have "whites only" signs anywhere. 
    The courts ruled in favor of the cake guy.


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    tempo_n_groove said:
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    The courts ruled in favor of the cake guy.


    on appeal, yes, but not because of the merits of his case, but because of how the colorado human rights commissions apparently "handled it". they stated they may have found in favour of the couple had the human rights commission acted "religiously neutral" in their ruling. 
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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    an actual chyron on fox news that I just saw said "OBAMA TURNS OFF COMMENTS ON INSTAGRAM". holy shit this network is a joke. here is the website article:

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barack-obama-instagram-comments-afghanistan-collapse
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    Disingenuous 
    Fucks

    Lol...Look how they framed the article, look at the people they have commenting on it....then watch and listen to the actual video. He clearly did not call him "boy." Seems pretty obvious he was saying something like "boy, does he know Louisiana" yet in a typical Biden garbled way. Unreal. 

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-calls-black-adviser-boy

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    The Juggler said:
    Disingenuous 
    Fucks

    Lol...Look how they framed the article, look at the people they have commenting on it....then watch and listen to the actual video. He clearly did not call him "boy." Seems pretty obvious he was saying something like "boy, does he know Louisiana" yet in a typical Biden garbled way. Unreal. 

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-calls-black-adviser-boy

    I didn't know that Kayleigh McEneny was a regular contributor on Fox. cuz of course she is. 

    and who was that woman with the british accent who said "biden is clearly not smart enough". what kind of fucking reporting is that? who says that in a professional capacity?

    bunch of losers on that network. 
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
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    I didn't know that Kayleigh McEneny was a regular contributor on Fox. cuz of course she is. 

    and who was that woman with the british accent who said "biden is clearly not smart enough". what kind of fucking reporting is that? who says that in a professional capacity?

    bunch of losers on that network. 
    True

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