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And you expect “conversation” or “debate” or “honest answers?” How about answering the question? It’s a simple yes or no. Is it really that hard for you?gvn2fly1421 said:
Do you believe that your elected officials (Democrat or Republican) actually care about you and have your best interests in mind?Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you believe it’s right and should be legal for a bakery to deny service to a gay couple?gvn2fly1421 said:
Ahh yes, another issue to divide us... The real insurrection will occur when the plebes band together and go after them. Unfortunately, it will never happen.Halifax2TheMax said:
Unless you’re gay and want to buy a cake or flowers for your wedding.gvn2fly1421 said:
It's almost like the only two classes are not Democrat and Republican, rather the rule makers and the elites and then the rest of us.Halifax2TheMax said:
Didn’t faux news just pay a million dollar fine for intimidating victims of sexual harassment from filing claims or charges? See? Same-same.gvn2fly1421 said:Didn't CNN just hire back that guy that was a whacking on that zoom call?
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fuqer Qarlson is a piece of shit. As is anyone who watches and supports his fearful, hateful, ignorant, racist anti-American bullshit..
Tucker Carlson attacks Black officer who says he was called the N-word during the Capitol riot. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tucker-carlson-attacks-black-officer-who-says-he-was-called-n1274694
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Same ol tactics huh? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you believe it’s right and should be legal for a bakery to deny service to a gay couple?gvn2fly1421 said:
Ahh yes, another issue to divide us... The real insurrection will occur when the plebes band together and go after them. Unfortunately, it will never happen.Halifax2TheMax said:
Unless you’re gay and want to buy a cake or flowers for your wedding.gvn2fly1421 said:
It's almost like the only two classes are not Democrat and Republican, rather the rule makers and the elites and then the rest of us.Halifax2TheMax said:
Didn’t faux news just pay a million dollar fine for intimidating victims of sexual harassment from filing claims or charges? See? Same-same.gvn2fly1421 said:Didn't CNN just hire back that guy that was a whacking on that zoom call?
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/30/1011530254/fox-news-pays-record-fine-over-metoo-violations-of-nyc-human-rights-law0 -
What tactics are you referring to? That both sides are the same? I never did get an answer. What are your thoughts on discrimination based on sexual orientation? Huh?tempo_n_groove said:
Same ol tactics huh? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you believe it’s right and should be legal for a bakery to deny service to a gay couple?gvn2fly1421 said:
Ahh yes, another issue to divide us... The real insurrection will occur when the plebes band together and go after them. Unfortunately, it will never happen.Halifax2TheMax said:
Unless you’re gay and want to buy a cake or flowers for your wedding.gvn2fly1421 said:
It's almost like the only two classes are not Democrat and Republican, rather the rule makers and the elites and then the rest of us.Halifax2TheMax said:
Didn’t faux news just pay a million dollar fine for intimidating victims of sexual harassment from filing claims or charges? See? Same-same.gvn2fly1421 said:Didn't CNN just hire back that guy that was a whacking on that zoom call?
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I'm poking fun at you. The flip side of that argument is (I think)what are your thoughts on religious discrimination?Halifax2TheMax said:
What tactics are you referring to? That both sides are the same? I never did get an answer. What are your thoughts on discrimination based on sexual orientation? Huh?tempo_n_groove said:
Same ol tactics huh? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you believe it’s right and should be legal for a bakery to deny service to a gay couple?gvn2fly1421 said:
Ahh yes, another issue to divide us... The real insurrection will occur when the plebes band together and go after them. Unfortunately, it will never happen.Halifax2TheMax said:
Unless you’re gay and want to buy a cake or flowers for your wedding.gvn2fly1421 said:
It's almost like the only two classes are not Democrat and Republican, rather the rule makers and the elites and then the rest of us.Halifax2TheMax said:
Didn’t faux news just pay a million dollar fine for intimidating victims of sexual harassment from filing claims or charges? See? Same-same.gvn2fly1421 said:Didn't CNN just hire back that guy that was a whacking on that zoom call?
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/30/1011530254/fox-news-pays-record-fine-over-metoo-violations-of-nyc-human-rights-law
Edit: So this doesn't drag on, my comment was a total troll one and not need answered.0 -
I don’t think it’s religious discrimination for a religious zealot cake or flower shop owner to have to serve someone with a sexual orientation they don’t approve of. What are your thoughts?tempo_n_groove said:
I'm poking fun at you. The flip side of that argument is (I think)what are your thoughts on religious discrimination?Halifax2TheMax said:
What tactics are you referring to? That both sides are the same? I never did get an answer. What are your thoughts on discrimination based on sexual orientation? Huh?tempo_n_groove said:
Same ol tactics huh? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you believe it’s right and should be legal for a bakery to deny service to a gay couple?gvn2fly1421 said:
Ahh yes, another issue to divide us... The real insurrection will occur when the plebes band together and go after them. Unfortunately, it will never happen.Halifax2TheMax said:
Unless you’re gay and want to buy a cake or flowers for your wedding.gvn2fly1421 said:
It's almost like the only two classes are not Democrat and Republican, rather the rule makers and the elites and then the rest of us.Halifax2TheMax said:
Didn’t faux news just pay a million dollar fine for intimidating victims of sexual harassment from filing claims or charges? See? Same-same.gvn2fly1421 said:Didn't CNN just hire back that guy that was a whacking on that zoom call?
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/30/1011530254/fox-news-pays-record-fine-over-metoo-violations-of-nyc-human-rights-law
Edit: So this doesn't drag on, my comment was a total troll one and not need answered.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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The bakery is open to the public but have the right to refuse service.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don’t think it’s religious discrimination for a religious zealot cake or flower shop owner to have to serve someone with a sexual orientation they don’t approve of. What are your thoughts?tempo_n_groove said:
I'm poking fun at you. The flip side of that argument is (I think)what are your thoughts on religious discrimination?Halifax2TheMax said:
What tactics are you referring to? That both sides are the same? I never did get an answer. What are your thoughts on discrimination based on sexual orientation? Huh?tempo_n_groove said:
Same ol tactics huh? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you believe it’s right and should be legal for a bakery to deny service to a gay couple?gvn2fly1421 said:
Ahh yes, another issue to divide us... The real insurrection will occur when the plebes band together and go after them. Unfortunately, it will never happen.Halifax2TheMax said:
Unless you’re gay and want to buy a cake or flowers for your wedding.gvn2fly1421 said:
It's almost like the only two classes are not Democrat and Republican, rather the rule makers and the elites and then the rest of us.Halifax2TheMax said:
Didn’t faux news just pay a million dollar fine for intimidating victims of sexual harassment from filing claims or charges? See? Same-same.gvn2fly1421 said:Didn't CNN just hire back that guy that was a whacking on that zoom call?
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/30/1011530254/fox-news-pays-record-fine-over-metoo-violations-of-nyc-human-rights-law
Edit: So this doesn't drag on, my comment was a total troll one and not need answered.
If I put it another way where a man in a head scarf walks in to buy a cake for Ramadan decorated in Arabic and was refused, would your response be the same?
Personally I wouldn't go back to either bakery if the above scenarios happened but they should have the right to refuse service.0 -
I’m all for keeping government out of private business but it’s hard to deny that anti discrimination legislation has been effective overall.I wonder if desegregation was viewed as religious discrimination at one point.0
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Where does the "right to refuse service" end?tempo_n_groove said:
The bakery is open to the public but have the right to refuse service.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don’t think it’s religious discrimination for a religious zealot cake or flower shop owner to have to serve someone with a sexual orientation they don’t approve of. What are your thoughts?tempo_n_groove said:
I'm poking fun at you. The flip side of that argument is (I think)what are your thoughts on religious discrimination?Halifax2TheMax said:
What tactics are you referring to? That both sides are the same? I never did get an answer. What are your thoughts on discrimination based on sexual orientation? Huh?tempo_n_groove said:
Same ol tactics huh? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you believe it’s right and should be legal for a bakery to deny service to a gay couple?gvn2fly1421 said:
Ahh yes, another issue to divide us... The real insurrection will occur when the plebes band together and go after them. Unfortunately, it will never happen.Halifax2TheMax said:
Unless you’re gay and want to buy a cake or flowers for your wedding.gvn2fly1421 said:
It's almost like the only two classes are not Democrat and Republican, rather the rule makers and the elites and then the rest of us.Halifax2TheMax said:
Didn’t faux news just pay a million dollar fine for intimidating victims of sexual harassment from filing claims or charges? See? Same-same.gvn2fly1421 said:Didn't CNN just hire back that guy that was a whacking on that zoom call?
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/30/1011530254/fox-news-pays-record-fine-over-metoo-violations-of-nyc-human-rights-law
Edit: So this doesn't drag on, my comment was a total troll one and not need answered.
If I put it another way where a man in a head scarf walks in to buy a cake for Ramadan decorated in Arabic and was refused, would your response be the same?
Personally I wouldn't go back to either bakery if the above scenarios happened but they should have the right to refuse service.
Depends on the reason given. If its "we can't write in Arabic and it'd look like shit," or "sorry, we don't serve Muslims or Arabs," makes a difference. If I walk in wearing a cross and ask that my cake be made to resemble the Vatican and get refused because it'd be a pile resembling a pile of cake, that is not discriminatory. If I were refused because I was catholic, I'm not, I'm atheist, that would be discrimination.
Personally, I wouldn't go back either but business owners shouldn't be allowed to refuse service, "just because." Would you be okay with a business refusing service because you're vaccinated/unvaccinated? Again, where does it end?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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right to refuse service doesn't extend to discrimination. hence, we no longer have "whites only" signs anywhere.tempo_n_groove said:
The bakery is open to the public but have the right to refuse service.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don’t think it’s religious discrimination for a religious zealot cake or flower shop owner to have to serve someone with a sexual orientation they don’t approve of. What are your thoughts?tempo_n_groove said:
I'm poking fun at you. The flip side of that argument is (I think)what are your thoughts on religious discrimination?Halifax2TheMax said:
What tactics are you referring to? That both sides are the same? I never did get an answer. What are your thoughts on discrimination based on sexual orientation? Huh?tempo_n_groove said:
Same ol tactics huh? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you believe it’s right and should be legal for a bakery to deny service to a gay couple?gvn2fly1421 said:
Ahh yes, another issue to divide us... The real insurrection will occur when the plebes band together and go after them. Unfortunately, it will never happen.Halifax2TheMax said:
Unless you’re gay and want to buy a cake or flowers for your wedding.gvn2fly1421 said:
It's almost like the only two classes are not Democrat and Republican, rather the rule makers and the elites and then the rest of us.Halifax2TheMax said:
Didn’t faux news just pay a million dollar fine for intimidating victims of sexual harassment from filing claims or charges? See? Same-same.gvn2fly1421 said:Didn't CNN just hire back that guy that was a whacking on that zoom call?
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/30/1011530254/fox-news-pays-record-fine-over-metoo-violations-of-nyc-human-rights-law
Edit: So this doesn't drag on, my comment was a total troll one and not need answered.
If I put it another way where a man in a head scarf walks in to buy a cake for Ramadan decorated in Arabic and was refused, would your response be the same?
Personally I wouldn't go back to either bakery if the above scenarios happened but they should have the right to refuse service.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Halifax2TheMax said:
Where does the "right to refuse service" end?tempo_n_groove said:
The bakery is open to the public but have the right to refuse service.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don’t think it’s religious discrimination for a religious zealot cake or flower shop owner to have to serve someone with a sexual orientation they don’t approve of. What are your thoughts?tempo_n_groove said:
I'm poking fun at you. The flip side of that argument is (I think)what are your thoughts on religious discrimination?Halifax2TheMax said:
What tactics are you referring to? That both sides are the same? I never did get an answer. What are your thoughts on discrimination based on sexual orientation? Huh?tempo_n_groove said:
Same ol tactics huh? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you believe it’s right and should be legal for a bakery to deny service to a gay couple?gvn2fly1421 said:
Ahh yes, another issue to divide us... The real insurrection will occur when the plebes band together and go after them. Unfortunately, it will never happen.Halifax2TheMax said:
Unless you’re gay and want to buy a cake or flowers for your wedding.gvn2fly1421 said:
It's almost like the only two classes are not Democrat and Republican, rather the rule makers and the elites and then the rest of us.Halifax2TheMax said:
Didn’t faux news just pay a million dollar fine for intimidating victims of sexual harassment from filing claims or charges? See? Same-same.gvn2fly1421 said:Didn't CNN just hire back that guy that was a whacking on that zoom call?
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/30/1011530254/fox-news-pays-record-fine-over-metoo-violations-of-nyc-human-rights-law
Edit: So this doesn't drag on, my comment was a total troll one and not need answered.
If I put it another way where a man in a head scarf walks in to buy a cake for Ramadan decorated in Arabic and was refused, would your response be the same?
Personally I wouldn't go back to either bakery if the above scenarios happened but they should have the right to refuse service.
Depends on the reason given. If its "we can't write in Arabic and it'd look like shit," or "sorry, we don't serve Muslims or Arabs," makes a difference. If I walk in wearing a cross and ask that my cake be made to resemble the Vatican and get refused because it'd be a pile resembling a pile of cake, that is not discriminatory. If I were refused because I was catholic, I'm not, I'm atheist, that would be discrimination.
Personally, I wouldn't go back either but business owners shouldn't be allowed to refuse service, "just because." Would you be okay with a business refusing service because you're vaccinated/unvaccinated? Again, where does it end?
The courts ruled in favor of the cake guy.HughFreakingDillon said:
right to refuse service doesn't extend to discrimination. hence, we no longer have "whites only" signs anywhere.tempo_n_groove said:
The bakery is open to the public but have the right to refuse service.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don’t think it’s religious discrimination for a religious zealot cake or flower shop owner to have to serve someone with a sexual orientation they don’t approve of. What are your thoughts?tempo_n_groove said:
I'm poking fun at you. The flip side of that argument is (I think)what are your thoughts on religious discrimination?Halifax2TheMax said:
What tactics are you referring to? That both sides are the same? I never did get an answer. What are your thoughts on discrimination based on sexual orientation? Huh?tempo_n_groove said:
Same ol tactics huh? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you believe it’s right and should be legal for a bakery to deny service to a gay couple?gvn2fly1421 said:
Ahh yes, another issue to divide us... The real insurrection will occur when the plebes band together and go after them. Unfortunately, it will never happen.Halifax2TheMax said:
Unless you’re gay and want to buy a cake or flowers for your wedding.gvn2fly1421 said:
It's almost like the only two classes are not Democrat and Republican, rather the rule makers and the elites and then the rest of us.Halifax2TheMax said:
Didn’t faux news just pay a million dollar fine for intimidating victims of sexual harassment from filing claims or charges? See? Same-same.gvn2fly1421 said:Didn't CNN just hire back that guy that was a whacking on that zoom call?
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/30/1011530254/fox-news-pays-record-fine-over-metoo-violations-of-nyc-human-rights-law
Edit: So this doesn't drag on, my comment was a total troll one and not need answered.
If I put it another way where a man in a head scarf walks in to buy a cake for Ramadan decorated in Arabic and was refused, would your response be the same?
Personally I wouldn't go back to either bakery if the above scenarios happened but they should have the right to refuse service.
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on appeal, yes, but not because of the merits of his case, but because of how the colorado human rights commissions apparently "handled it". they stated they may have found in favour of the couple had the human rights commission acted "religiously neutral" in their ruling.tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Where does the "right to refuse service" end?tempo_n_groove said:
The bakery is open to the public but have the right to refuse service.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don’t think it’s religious discrimination for a religious zealot cake or flower shop owner to have to serve someone with a sexual orientation they don’t approve of. What are your thoughts?tempo_n_groove said:
I'm poking fun at you. The flip side of that argument is (I think)what are your thoughts on religious discrimination?Halifax2TheMax said:
What tactics are you referring to? That both sides are the same? I never did get an answer. What are your thoughts on discrimination based on sexual orientation? Huh?tempo_n_groove said:
Same ol tactics huh? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you believe it’s right and should be legal for a bakery to deny service to a gay couple?gvn2fly1421 said:
Ahh yes, another issue to divide us... The real insurrection will occur when the plebes band together and go after them. Unfortunately, it will never happen.Halifax2TheMax said:
Unless you’re gay and want to buy a cake or flowers for your wedding.gvn2fly1421 said:
It's almost like the only two classes are not Democrat and Republican, rather the rule makers and the elites and then the rest of us.Halifax2TheMax said:
Didn’t faux news just pay a million dollar fine for intimidating victims of sexual harassment from filing claims or charges? See? Same-same.gvn2fly1421 said:Didn't CNN just hire back that guy that was a whacking on that zoom call?
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/30/1011530254/fox-news-pays-record-fine-over-metoo-violations-of-nyc-human-rights-law
Edit: So this doesn't drag on, my comment was a total troll one and not need answered.
If I put it another way where a man in a head scarf walks in to buy a cake for Ramadan decorated in Arabic and was refused, would your response be the same?
Personally I wouldn't go back to either bakery if the above scenarios happened but they should have the right to refuse service.
Depends on the reason given. If its "we can't write in Arabic and it'd look like shit," or "sorry, we don't serve Muslims or Arabs," makes a difference. If I walk in wearing a cross and ask that my cake be made to resemble the Vatican and get refused because it'd be a pile resembling a pile of cake, that is not discriminatory. If I were refused because I was catholic, I'm not, I'm atheist, that would be discrimination.
Personally, I wouldn't go back either but business owners shouldn't be allowed to refuse service, "just because." Would you be okay with a business refusing service because you're vaccinated/unvaccinated? Again, where does it end?
The courts ruled in favor of the cake guy.HughFreakingDillon said:
right to refuse service doesn't extend to discrimination. hence, we no longer have "whites only" signs anywhere.tempo_n_groove said:
The bakery is open to the public but have the right to refuse service.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don’t think it’s religious discrimination for a religious zealot cake or flower shop owner to have to serve someone with a sexual orientation they don’t approve of. What are your thoughts?tempo_n_groove said:
I'm poking fun at you. The flip side of that argument is (I think)what are your thoughts on religious discrimination?Halifax2TheMax said:
What tactics are you referring to? That both sides are the same? I never did get an answer. What are your thoughts on discrimination based on sexual orientation? Huh?tempo_n_groove said:
Same ol tactics huh? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you believe it’s right and should be legal for a bakery to deny service to a gay couple?gvn2fly1421 said:
Ahh yes, another issue to divide us... The real insurrection will occur when the plebes band together and go after them. Unfortunately, it will never happen.Halifax2TheMax said:
Unless you’re gay and want to buy a cake or flowers for your wedding.gvn2fly1421 said:
It's almost like the only two classes are not Democrat and Republican, rather the rule makers and the elites and then the rest of us.Halifax2TheMax said:
Didn’t faux news just pay a million dollar fine for intimidating victims of sexual harassment from filing claims or charges? See? Same-same.gvn2fly1421 said:Didn't CNN just hire back that guy that was a whacking on that zoom call?
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/30/1011530254/fox-news-pays-record-fine-over-metoo-violations-of-nyc-human-rights-law
Edit: So this doesn't drag on, my comment was a total troll one and not need answered.
If I put it another way where a man in a head scarf walks in to buy a cake for Ramadan decorated in Arabic and was refused, would your response be the same?
Personally I wouldn't go back to either bakery if the above scenarios happened but they should have the right to refuse service.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
an actual chyron on fox news that I just saw said "OBAMA TURNS OFF COMMENTS ON INSTAGRAM". holy shit this network is a joke. here is the website article:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barack-obama-instagram-comments-afghanistan-collapse
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Disingenuous
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Lol...Look how they framed the article, look at the people they have commenting on it....then watch and listen to the actual video. He clearly did not call him "boy." Seems pretty obvious he was saying something like "boy, does he know Louisiana" yet in a typical Biden garbled way. Unreal.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-calls-black-adviser-boy
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I didn't know that Kayleigh McEneny was a regular contributor on Fox. cuz of course she is.The Juggler said:Disingenuous
Fucks
Lol...Look how they framed the article, look at the people they have commenting on it....then watch and listen to the actual video. He clearly did not call him "boy." Seems pretty obvious he was saying something like "boy, does he know Louisiana" yet in a typical Biden garbled way. Unreal.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-calls-black-adviser-boy
and who was that woman with the british accent who said "biden is clearly not smart enough". what kind of fucking reporting is that? who says that in a professional capacity?
bunch of losers on that network.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
TrueHughFreakingDillon said:
I didn't know that Kayleigh McEneny was a regular contributor on Fox. cuz of course she is.The Juggler said:Disingenuous
Fucks
Lol...Look how they framed the article, look at the people they have commenting on it....then watch and listen to the actual video. He clearly did not call him "boy." Seems pretty obvious he was saying something like "boy, does he know Louisiana" yet in a typical Biden garbled way. Unreal.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-calls-black-adviser-boy
and who was that woman with the british accent who said "biden is clearly not smart enough". what kind of fucking reporting is that? who says that in a professional capacity?
bunch of losers on that network.
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