Entire Bull Moose store staff is fired.
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tempo_n_groove said:
No one assumed that Brian.brianlux said:I'm not sure why we are assuming the staff of this Bull Moose store did nothing but stand behind a cash register. (I would also argue that for some, cashiering is a job they enjoy and are happy to have. I have seen many of the same cashiers at our local independent supermarket and they are well paid, happy, helpful people.) I've had jobs that ranged from the lowest paid labor to working at the professional level as a teacher. In between, I held jobs working in retail including two auto parts stores, a clothing department in a Macys, an import goods store, and a few bookstores. Knowing the inventory, helping customers, merchandising, taking inventory were a part of those jobs as much as simply running a cash register. Those were transition jobs for me, but I worked with people who worked in those positions for many years and who were satisfied with their work. We who are consumers rely on people carrying out those jobs and many people who do them rely on that work for making a living, so I don't see why we would not support the idea of giving those workers a living wage.
You even said yourself that they were "transition jobs". That is what everyone should view it as unless you make manager.
Not everyone is cut out to be a manager or a professional. That doesn't make them lesser people (not that anyone said they are), it just means they are more well suited and/or happier doing the work of a retail employee. For some, that is their career and I see it as a respectable one.
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Pushing a broom is also respectable but doing it for a Union is a better career path.brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:
No one assumed that Brian.brianlux said:I'm not sure why we are assuming the staff of this Bull Moose store did nothing but stand behind a cash register. (I would also argue that for some, cashiering is a job they enjoy and are happy to have. I have seen many of the same cashiers at our local independent supermarket and they are well paid, happy, helpful people.) I've had jobs that ranged from the lowest paid labor to working at the professional level as a teacher. In between, I held jobs working in retail including two auto parts stores, a clothing department in a Macys, an import goods store, and a few bookstores. Knowing the inventory, helping customers, merchandising, taking inventory were a part of those jobs as much as simply running a cash register. Those were transition jobs for me, but I worked with people who worked in those positions for many years and who were satisfied with their work. We who are consumers rely on people carrying out those jobs and many people who do them rely on that work for making a living, so I don't see why we would not support the idea of giving those workers a living wage.
You even said yourself that they were "transition jobs". That is what everyone should view it as unless you make manager.
Not everyone is cut out to be a manager or a professional. That doesn't make them lesser people (not that anyone said they are), it just means they are more well suited and/or happier doing the work of a retail employee. For some, that is their career and I see it as a respectable one.
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I can buy all those at my local grocery store for about $0.89. Amazon seems to just treat candy bars as a price gouge, I wouldn't use that as the standard for price.Halifax2TheMax said:Only the Snicker's was less than the minimum wage. What does that tell you?
From Walmart, $0.82 for a KitKat
*edit: Just noticed this was a 5-pack snack size. But even the King Size Kit Kat was $1.49. So a regular would probably be about this same price too (just found it, its 88 cents).
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Moot point because I would agree $2.80 is too low, whether it can buy 1 candy bar or 3. I just thought his analogy was funny, I've never paid that price for a candy bar in my life.Post edited by mace1229 on0
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I pay the equivalent of 23 candy bars a year to talk nonsense on this forum.0
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Just give me some Ghirardelli and I am just fine.0
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Lindt Chili Chocolate Bar.JeBurkhardt said:Just give me some Ghirardelli and I am just fine.
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Sounds interesting, I will give it a try.tempo_n_groove said:
Lindt Chili Chocolate Bar.JeBurkhardt said:Just give me some Ghirardelli and I am just fine.
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tempo_n_groove said:
No one assumed that Brian.brianlux said:I'm not sure why we are assuming the staff of this Bull Moose store did nothing but stand behind a cash register. (I would also argue that for some, cashiering is a job they enjoy and are happy to have. I have seen many of the same cashiers at our local independent supermarket and they are well paid, happy, helpful people.) I've had jobs that ranged from the lowest paid labor to working at the professional level as a teacher. In between, I held jobs working in retail including two auto parts stores, a clothing department in a Macys, an import goods store, and a few bookstores. Knowing the inventory, helping customers, merchandising, taking inventory were a part of those jobs as much as simply running a cash register. Those were transition jobs for me, but I worked with people who worked in those positions for many years and who were satisfied with their work. We who are consumers rely on people carrying out those jobs and many people who do them rely on that work for making a living, so I don't see why we would not support the idea of giving those workers a living wage.
You even said yourself that they were "transition jobs". That is what everyone should view it as unless you make manager.
with the qualifier of FOR HIM. It wasnt a blanket statement.
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The "I'm not sure why we are assuming" in the first sentence was what no one was assuming.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
No one assumed that Brian.brianlux said:I'm not sure why we are assuming the staff of this Bull Moose store did nothing but stand behind a cash register. (I would also argue that for some, cashiering is a job they enjoy and are happy to have. I have seen many of the same cashiers at our local independent supermarket and they are well paid, happy, helpful people.) I've had jobs that ranged from the lowest paid labor to working at the professional level as a teacher. In between, I held jobs working in retail including two auto parts stores, a clothing department in a Macys, an import goods store, and a few bookstores. Knowing the inventory, helping customers, merchandising, taking inventory were a part of those jobs as much as simply running a cash register. Those were transition jobs for me, but I worked with people who worked in those positions for many years and who were satisfied with their work. We who are consumers rely on people carrying out those jobs and many people who do them rely on that work for making a living, so I don't see why we would not support the idea of giving those workers a living wage.
You even said yourself that they were "transition jobs". That is what everyone should view it as unless you make manager.
with the qualifier of FOR HIM. It wasnt a blanket statement.0 -
But the $2.83 is "plus tips".mace1229 said:Moot point because I would agree $2.80 is too low, whether it can buy 1 candy bar or 3. I just thought his analogy was funny, I've never paid that price for a candy bar in my life.
Tipped workers always have a lower minimum wage than regular workers, and normally (and the past 15 months have been far from normal) make in actuality a lot more than actual minimum wage.
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Not a bad time if you got to receive the extra unemployment benefits.Poncier said:
But the $2.83 is "plus tips".mace1229 said:Moot point because I would agree $2.80 is too low, whether it can buy 1 candy bar or 3. I just thought his analogy was funny, I've never paid that price for a candy bar in my life.
Tipped workers always have a lower minimum wage than regular workers, and normally (and the past 15 months have been far from normal) make in actuality a lot more than actual minimum wage.
Just a terrible time recently to be a waitperson or bartender or similar.0 -
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No, please don’t. It all hurts my head. Really badly.oftenreading said:
Show your work, Brianbrianlux said:09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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That’s the paint chips you had for lunch.Halifax2TheMax said:
No, please don’t. It all hurts my head. Really badly.oftenreading said:
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