Entire Bull Moose store staff is fired.
brianlux
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Maybe not the best move on their part. I can't say for sure at this point, but I may be re-thinking ordering here again.
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Bull Moose management attempt to mask a larger issue. Record store workers of the world unite.
And what's the deal with the fucked up customers?
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Evidently, that is part of the situation. But when did talking to someone become a crime? And the ENTIRE staff was fired. It's just wrong. Bull Moose will get no more of my business.
Hopefully, the pandemic exposed (and continues to expose) just how shitty employees for small business owners have it and just how selfish and deplorable their bosses are.
For my part, I am vaxed and will wear a mask because it can’t hurt and could help. And I will prefer to patronize stores that continue to require masks and who I believe are looking out for their employees. And I sure as hell am not going to patronize places this quick to fire staff over this (or over talk of organization).
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I think if I'm a business owner, I just continue to follow the local and state restrictions and just use that as the crutch/source of reasoning if anyone tries to question the decision
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I don't think this story really has to do with masks and Covid, it is definitely about nipping a possible organizing of employees in the bud.
So living in NH we are in the top of the list over 70% have gotten their first shot and 46.1% are fully vaccinated. Getting it done is very simply here and as mentioned above everyone got opened to it as of April 2nd , my sister was able to go on April 2nd and get a same day appointment.
It is tricky as I just got back from vacation and we have an honor system on wear a mask if you are fully vaccinated and please put one on if not. I am fully done but still put a mask on when someone comes into my office ( other than two employees whom are also fully vaccinated ) although a credit union is way different than a retail music story.
Since today everyone whom has come in has worn a mask as they just want too still. So I get being nervous with the public but again I am fully vaccinated.
I feel like this has to be more than a mask issues and sadly I will not go to Bull Moose anymore and that sucks because that place rules. Well used to before they laid off the entire store.
If a business says wear a mask I wear one and to be honest if it says I don't have to wear one I still do.
There has to be more to this.
If they (employees) were sending angry emails to their higherups that could be viewed as insubordination though and then the lawsuit is moot.
Lastly, the choice of the store to lift a mask ban shouldn't mean that an employee has to not wear one. The mask is supposed to prevent your own germs from spreading though.
That's very unfortunate. It's too bad more small business owners aren't like my wife and her business partner. They often put their employees before themselves. In tough times, they both took pay cuts so their employees could continue to work. They've cooked and taken food to employees when they've been sick and have been very flexible and generous when they've been in need. In 38 years they've never had one disgruntled employee.
Every other small business I've worked at basically begat a workplace support group for dealing with the owners.
And one store had a huge issue with the cash register folks stealing money from the owners, and it took forever for someone to report it because as absolutely morally wrong as it was, employees were not so sure to jump to that conclusion based on how they were treated by said ripped-off owners.
Business owners who do not treat their employees well are despicable creatures. I've only ever worked for one that was really bad- way back in my high school years. I didn't stay long there.
I think there is more to the Bull Moose situation. Not saying that justifies everyone being fired, but I think the headline about it being all over masking policies was a good way to draw attention at a time when that's a hot ticket controversy.
You know, things small business owners generally fail to provide for their employees.
I’ve heard about 5 compliments based on the rule each day since I posted it, folks are genuinely very pleased to be able to come in without it, and those who are wearing one completely understand and are still happy, so it has worked out really well.
cant believe bull moose would fire their staff, pretty screwed up. I hope it’s not because of masks though but even worse if it is.
Some employees were unhappy with the mask changes and complained about it, some complained in the work email. If you're annoyed at a couple of employees it doesn't make sense to fire all 20 and be closed indefinitely. Handle the ones misusing the email or causing problems.
Mask policy updated and employees were angry. Store closed early Thursday, mass termination email Friday. Still closed today without signs of reopening. Either that is the worst business decision by any owner, or there was something else going on.
Presents a far more plausible scenario.
I would say that even if more details come out, they would have to amount to an attempted coup d'état or something other equally outlandish act and unlikely involving each and every staff member for this not to look like a terrible business decision. Firing the entire staff has already given the company a black eye and lost a fair amount of business. It's a bit hard to say at this point, but I'm guessing this was a reactionary and foolish move on the companies part.
People complaining about $12 who work in a record store talking about a living wage I will never understand. A cashier at a record store should not be permanent sustaining job.
It sounds like the store was being poorly run anyways. After this story I don't think Bull Moose recovers for a long while.
I felt like what I did running record stores and bookstores was much more valuable to society at large than what ultimately wound up being my “permanent sustaining job.”
Cant see this ending well for them.
Working retail as a career shouldn't be your fallback. Amazon is putting an end to that so thinking it should be a living wage to me is "old timey" as these jobs are becoming less and less.