These days, do you find anger and hatred more, the same, or less in general and where you live?

brianlux
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I don't know if it's just where I live, but it seems like almost by the day I see people becoming more angry and hateful.  I can see in in people eyes, in their faces.  I don't know if it's possibly because my community has long been rural to semi-rural and is growing as more people from the outside are moving in, or if it's because of recent political change, or because of a year plus of COVID concerns, or maybe all of the above.  But I have to say, where I live, it's getting very strange and unsettling around here. 
What about in your neck of the woods?
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-Roberto Benigni

These days, do you find anger and hatred more, the same, or less in general and where you live? 17 votes

I see anger and hatred as being on the increase where I live and in general.
76%
gimmesometruth27stuckinlinelastexitlondonmfc2006dankindAbe Fromannicknyr15brianluxF Me In The Brain23scidoo1ThoughtKnownRunIntoTheRainMatts3221 13 votes
I see anger and hatred as increasing in general but not in my area.
11%
Ledbetterman10gvn2fly1421 2 votes
I see anger and hatred about the same in general but increasing in my area.
0%
I see anger and hatred as about the same in my area and in general.
5%
BLACK35 1 vote
I see anger and hatred decreasing in general but increasing in my area.
0%
I see anger and hatred decreasing in my area and decreasing in general.
0%
Other (please explain.)
5%
static111 1 vote
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,086
    Other (please explain.)
    I see anger and hatred increasing in a segment of the population that is either getting left behind or is unable to adapt to a rapidly changing global future.
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  • mickeyrat
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    static111 said:
    I see anger and hatred increasing in a segment of the population that is either getting left behind or is unable to adapt to a rapidly changing global future.
    you mean unwilling....

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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,086
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    mickeyrat said:
    static111 said:
    I see anger and hatred increasing in a segment of the population that is either getting left behind or is unable to adapt to a rapidly changing global future.
    you mean unwilling....

    Some are unable due to lack of education and ingrained belief systems and social programming.   It like what I would imagine getting into recovery would be like, you can’t change anything if you don’t recognize the problem.   But yes for sure some are unwilling.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,097
    I see anger and hatred as being on the increase where I live and in general.
    things are pretty divided here. i just try to stick with people i know and avoid going where i know there may be issues. st louis city just elected an african american, woman, progressive, mayor and that has caused a bunch of anger to bubble over among the republicans here. she wants to reform policing in the city and people are just not here for it. there is a lot of anger on all sides.

    i think people in general here are just more selfish the last few years and that manifests as anger and overall assholish behavior towards others.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,324
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    things are pretty divided here. i just try to stick with people i know and avoid going where i know there may be issues. st louis city just elected an african american, woman, progressive, mayor and that has caused a bunch of anger to bubble over among the republicans here. she wants to reform policing in the city and people are just not here for it. there is a lot of anger on all sides.

    i think people in general here are just more selfish the last few years and that manifests as anger and overall assholish behavior towards others.
    Empathy seems to be non existent anymore. As long as I get what I want and get to do what I want to do, everything is good. If I have to inconvenience myself for the good of someone else, a fit will be thrown. My Mom would often say " but for the grace of God, that would be me" when she saw someone struggling or hurting, and try to do what she could to help them. She didn't judge them for what they were going through, she just helped, or listened or loved them. The world needs more people like her.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,385
    JeBurkhardt said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    things are pretty divided here. i just try to stick with people i know and avoid going where i know there may be issues. st louis city just elected an african american, woman, progressive, mayor and that has caused a bunch of anger to bubble over among the republicans here. she wants to reform policing in the city and people are just not here for it. there is a lot of anger on all sides.

    i think people in general here are just more selfish the last few years and that manifests as anger and overall assholish behavior towards others.
    Empathy seems to be non existent anymore. As long as I get what I want and get to do what I want to do, everything is good. If I have to inconvenience myself for the good of someone else, a fit will be thrown. My Mom would often say " but for the grace of God, that would be me" when she saw someone struggling or hurting, and try to do what she could to help them. She didn't judge them for what they were going through, she just helped, or listened or loved them. The world needs more people like her.
     and try to do what she could to help them.

    This is a problem nowadays as we are taught not to engage and not to help, whether it's someone hurt or someone in need of assistance.

    When was the last time someone held a door open for you?  Courtesy is out the window along w empathy.  

    I hold doors open for people and never let my GF touch her door handle as I open her door for her every time we go somewhere.
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,969
    I see anger and hatred as being on the increase where I live and in general.
    People start to lose their patience..
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    I see anger and hatred as being on the increase where I live and in general.
    Oh, sad but unfortunately fairly predictable results so far.  7 worse case scenarios, one "other".  Some optimistic part of me wants there to be a place where this trend is not toward increased anger and hatred.  Even though we have members here who are not from North America, most are, so I wonder what a poll like this would reveal if asked in parts of Europe or South America or Africa or Australia or the East. 
    But the poll is small, so who knows.  I just have a bad feeling about the direction things are taking.
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    things are pretty divided here. i just try to stick with people i know and avoid going where i know there may be issues. st louis city just elected an african american, woman, progressive, mayor and that has caused a bunch of anger to bubble over among the republicans here. she wants to reform policing in the city and people are just not here for it. there is a lot of anger on all sides.

    i think people in general here are just more selfish the last few years and that manifests as anger and overall assholish behavior towards others.

    I'm sorry to hear there is more strife there. But good for St; Louis electing your new mayor!  Yeah, I can imagine there being some unhappy conservatives there.

    People think of California as being a liberal haven and yes, some areas are predominantly liberal, but there are a lot of people who hate Governor Newsom.  It's really bad where I am.  I see bumper stickers like "My Governor is an Idiot", "Newsom sits down to pee", "Comiefornia", etc.  Really dumb stuff like that and lots of pointless, futile anger that resolves nothing.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,889
    tempo_n_groove said:
    JeBurkhardt said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    things are pretty divided here. i just try to stick with people i know and avoid going where i know there may be issues. st louis city just elected an african american, woman, progressive, mayor and that has caused a bunch of anger to bubble over among the republicans here. she wants to reform policing in the city and people are just not here for it. there is a lot of anger on all sides.

    i think people in general here are just more selfish the last few years and that manifests as anger and overall assholish behavior towards others.
    Empathy seems to be non existent anymore. As long as I get what I want and get to do what I want to do, everything is good. If I have to inconvenience myself for the good of someone else, a fit will be thrown. My Mom would often say " but for the grace of God, that would be me" when she saw someone struggling or hurting, and try to do what she could to help them. She didn't judge them for what they were going through, she just helped, or listened or loved them. The world needs more people like her.
     

    I hold doors open for people and never let my GF touch her door handle as I open her door for her every time we go somewhere.
    Did she pass the Sonny test?

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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    JeBurkhardt said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    things are pretty divided here. i just try to stick with people i know and avoid going where i know there may be issues. st louis city just elected an african american, woman, progressive, mayor and that has caused a bunch of anger to bubble over among the republicans here. she wants to reform policing in the city and people are just not here for it. there is a lot of anger on all sides.

    i think people in general here are just more selfish the last few years and that manifests as anger and overall assholish behavior towards others.
    Empathy seems to be non existent anymore. As long as I get what I want and get to do what I want to do, everything is good. If I have to inconvenience myself for the good of someone else, a fit will be thrown. My Mom would often say " but for the grace of God, that would be me" when she saw someone struggling or hurting, and try to do what she could to help them. She didn't judge them for what they were going through, she just helped, or listened or loved them. The world needs more people like her.
    Your Mom sounds amazing...
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  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,324
    edited April 2021
    Meltdown99 said:
    JeBurkhardt said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    things are pretty divided here. i just try to stick with people i know and avoid going where i know there may be issues. st louis city just elected an african american, woman, progressive, mayor and that has caused a bunch of anger to bubble over among the republicans here. she wants to reform policing in the city and people are just not here for it. there is a lot of anger on all sides.

    i think people in general here are just more selfish the last few years and that manifests as anger and overall assholish behavior towards others.
    Empathy seems to be non existent anymore. As long as I get what I want and get to do what I want to do, everything is good. If I have to inconvenience myself for the good of someone else, a fit will be thrown. My Mom would often say " but for the grace of God, that would be me" when she saw someone struggling or hurting, and try to do what she could to help them. She didn't judge them for what they were going through, she just helped, or listened or loved them. The world needs more people like her.
    Your Mom sounds amazing...
    She was a great role model. She was the ultimate "Mama Bear" and it didn't matter if the kid was hers or not, she was there for them. She passed away around 8 years ago. I miss her quite a bit.  
    Post edited by JeBurkhardt on
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,385
    Poncier said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    JeBurkhardt said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    things are pretty divided here. i just try to stick with people i know and avoid going where i know there may be issues. st louis city just elected an african american, woman, progressive, mayor and that has caused a bunch of anger to bubble over among the republicans here. she wants to reform policing in the city and people are just not here for it. there is a lot of anger on all sides.

    i think people in general here are just more selfish the last few years and that manifests as anger and overall assholish behavior towards others.
    Empathy seems to be non existent anymore. As long as I get what I want and get to do what I want to do, everything is good. If I have to inconvenience myself for the good of someone else, a fit will be thrown. My Mom would often say " but for the grace of God, that would be me" when she saw someone struggling or hurting, and try to do what she could to help them. She didn't judge them for what they were going through, she just helped, or listened or loved them. The world needs more people like her.
     

    I hold doors open for people and never let my GF touch her door handle as I open her door for her every time we go somewhere.
    Did she pass the Sonny test?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8p1iG-6d-w
    HA!  My sister said this to me years ago!

    My GF opens my door if she is driving.  She reciprocates.
  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,379
    I see anger and hatred as being on the increase where I live and in general.
    These are scary times. The divide on so many issues seems to be rapidly increasing and causing a lot of anger and hatred. For me personally this has become increasingly difficult as I don’t fall into the echo chambers of either side. It is a daily struggle and unfortunately I don’t see it getting any better any time soon. 
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Many people are assholes. Those who were already assholes have become bigger assholes. They get the spotlight because that shit sells. You see it more than the decent ones because that shit sells. 

    It’s a tenuous time. Of course people feel angry, stifled, put upon, etc. Couple that with others in the same boat and BOOM. 



    *Newsom DOES suck. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    edited April 2021
    I see anger and hatred as being on the increase where I live and in general.
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Poncier said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    JeBurkhardt said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    things are pretty divided here. i just try to stick with people i know and avoid going where i know there may be issues. st louis city just elected an african american, woman, progressive, mayor and that has caused a bunch of anger to bubble over among the republicans here. she wants to reform policing in the city and people are just not here for it. there is a lot of anger on all sides.

    i think people in general here are just more selfish the last few years and that manifests as anger and overall assholish behavior towards others.
    Empathy seems to be non existent anymore. As long as I get what I want and get to do what I want to do, everything is good. If I have to inconvenience myself for the good of someone else, a fit will be thrown. My Mom would often say " but for the grace of God, that would be me" when she saw someone struggling or hurting, and try to do what she could to help them. She didn't judge them for what they were going through, she just helped, or listened or loved them. The world needs more people like her.
     

    I hold doors open for people and never let my GF touch her door handle as I open her door for her every time we go somewhere.
    Did she pass the Sonny test?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8p1iG-6d-w
    HA!  My sister said this to me years ago!

    My GF opens my door if she is driving.  She reciprocates.
    I love it- that's cool!
    A couple of years ago, I went to open the door for a very close friend of mine- the mother of my godchildren.  She stopped me and said, "I'm capable of doing that for myself."  Oh man, that was embarrassing. 

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    I see anger and hatred as being on the increase where I live and in general.
    hedonist said:
    Many people are assholes. Those who were already assholes have become bigger assholes. They get the spotlight because that shit sells. You see it more than the decent ones because that shit sells. 

    It’s a tenuous time. Of course people feel angry, stifled, put upon, etc. Couple that with others in the same boat and BOOM. 



    *Newsom DOES suck. 

    I'm always curious (and don't often get the opportunity to ask), if you care to answer, what is it about him you dislike? 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,385
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Poncier said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    JeBurkhardt said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    things are pretty divided here. i just try to stick with people i know and avoid going where i know there may be issues. st louis city just elected an african american, woman, progressive, mayor and that has caused a bunch of anger to bubble over among the republicans here. she wants to reform policing in the city and people are just not here for it. there is a lot of anger on all sides.

    i think people in general here are just more selfish the last few years and that manifests as anger and overall assholish behavior towards others.
    Empathy seems to be non existent anymore. As long as I get what I want and get to do what I want to do, everything is good. If I have to inconvenience myself for the good of someone else, a fit will be thrown. My Mom would often say " but for the grace of God, that would be me" when she saw someone struggling or hurting, and try to do what she could to help them. She didn't judge them for what they were going through, she just helped, or listened or loved them. The world needs more people like her.
     

    I hold doors open for people and never let my GF touch her door handle as I open her door for her every time we go somewhere.
    Did she pass the Sonny test?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8p1iG-6d-w
    HA!  My sister said this to me years ago!

    My GF opens my door if she is driving.  She reciprocates.
    I love it- that's cool!
    A couple of years ago, I went to open the door for a very close friend of mine- the mother of my godchildren.  She stopped me and said, "I'm capable of doing that for myself."  Oh man, that was embarrassing. 

    My GF sometimes gets irritated and tells me the same and I reply to her "i will not stop, once I do you will complain that I don't do it!" lol.  So she let's me open her door huffing at me.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    I see anger and hatred as being on the increase where I live and in general.
    Abe Froman said:
    These are scary times. The divide on so many issues seems to be rapidly increasing and causing a lot of anger and hatred. For me personally this has become increasingly difficult as I don’t fall into the echo chambers of either side. It is a daily struggle and unfortunately I don’t see it getting any better any time soon. 

    Yeah, I hear you Abe.  Everybody seems angry. 
    I wonder is part of the problem is that due to COVID things like city council and county board meetings are happening or even PTA meetings?  I'm sure that's only a small factor, but maybe a part of it.  People used to go to board meetings etc. to talk out grievances.  Now they just get on FB or Twitter and rant and rave.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    JeBurkhardt said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    JeBurkhardt said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    things are pretty divided here. i just try to stick with people i know and avoid going where i know there may be issues. st louis city just elected an african american, woman, progressive, mayor and that has caused a bunch of anger to bubble over among the republicans here. she wants to reform policing in the city and people are just not here for it. there is a lot of anger on all sides.

    i think people in general here are just more selfish the last few years and that manifests as anger and overall assholish behavior towards others.
    Empathy seems to be non existent anymore. As long as I get what I want and get to do what I want to do, everything is good. If I have to inconvenience myself for the good of someone else, a fit will be thrown. My Mom would often say " but for the grace of God, that would be me" when she saw someone struggling or hurting, and try to do what she could to help them. She didn't judge them for what they were going through, she just helped, or listened or loved them. The world needs more people like her.
    Your Mom sounds amazing...
    She was a great role model. She was the ultimate "Mama Bear" and it didn't matter if the kid was hers or not, she was there for them. She passed away around 8 years ago. I miss her quite a bit.  
    I certainly understand missing your mom.  I miss my mom everyday...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    brianlux said:
    hedonist said:
    Many people are assholes. Those who were already assholes have become bigger assholes. They get the spotlight because that shit sells. You see it more than the decent ones because that shit sells. 

    It’s a tenuous time. Of course people feel angry, stifled, put upon, etc. Couple that with others in the same boat and BOOM. 



    *Newsom DOES suck. 

    I'm always curious (and don't often get the opportunity to ask), if you care to answer, what is it about him you dislike? 
    I find him insincere, oily, smug and ineffectual. No wonder there are talks of him going to DC at some point. He’s grooming himself to make that (HUGE!) jump. 

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