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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,791
    Cancel culture is bad until it isn’t. 


  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    I don’t want Delta, Coke, MLB, Microsoft, etc.... replacing my vote.    I am surprised everyone for campaign finance reform and anti-corporate cash in politics is on board with corporations pressuring politicians in other ways.  

    Like with everything,  we don’t care if it helps me.  We only care if it hurts me.  

    It is absurd right now.  Cancel culture is real and on both sides. 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,814
    I'm all for people and corporations supporting what they believe in and fighting what they don't believe in.  Having a side is a good thing, imo.

    The one group can drink coke or sleep on their my pillows and the other group can avoid mlb or goya products.


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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    edited April 2021
    I'm all for people and corporations supporting what they believe in and fighting what they don't believe in.  Having a side is a good thing, imo.

    The one group can drink coke or sleep on their my pillows and the other group can avoid mlb or goya products.


    Why have elections?  If the power lies with CEO's and corporations there is no need to vote.  Let the corporations dictate it. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,791
    I don’t want Delta, Coke, MLB, Microsoft, etc.... replacing my vote.    I am surprised everyone for campaign finance reform and anti-corporate cash in politics is on board with corporations pressuring politicians in other ways.  

    Like with everything,  we don’t care if it helps me.  We only care if it hurts me.  

    It is absurd right now.  Cancel culture is real and on both sides. 
    How are those corporations “replacing your vote”? 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,814
    I'm all for people and corporations supporting what they believe in and fighting what they don't believe in.  Having a side is a good thing, imo.

    The one group can drink coke or sleep on their my pillows and the other group can avoid mlb or goya products.


    Why have elections?  If the power lies with CEO's and corporations there is no need to vote.  Let the corporations dictate it. 
    I don't understand the connection?
    How does this impact your vote?

    You can exercise your right to patronize a company, or not, but elections are still held

    Are you thinking that because of people's loyalty to coke or my pillow that they will be made to think/vote in certain ways?
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,814
    And.....money and corporations always have held power.  Consumers standing up against corporate behaviors they don't like or supporting ones they do like is something that should be seen as a good thing, imo.
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    I'm all for people and corporations supporting what they believe in and fighting what they don't believe in.  Having a side is a good thing, imo.

    The one group can drink coke or sleep on their my pillows and the other group can avoid mlb or goya products.


    Why have elections?  If the power lies with CEO's and corporations there is no need to vote.  Let the corporations dictate it. 
    I don't understand the connection?
    How does this impact your vote?

    You can exercise your right to patronize a company, or not, but elections are still held

    Are you thinking that because of people's loyalty to coke or my pillow that they will be made to think/vote in certain ways?

    It is a simple connection.  People voted for politicians in Georgia.  Politicians passed laws.  Some large corporation steps in to pressure politicians to change laws.  Seems like said large corporation is exerting political power that liberals hated just years ago.  You might say that corporations are responding to what its customers want, but Georgia had a vote and that is how politics should work.  If the law passed is unconstitutional you fight it in court. 

    Coke or some other company threatening to leave a state or not expand in a state is no different than Coke dangling millions of dollars in front of politicians.   I thought we wanted to get corporations out of politics?   But it is okay because right now they are doing what the liberals want them to do. 

    I'm not taking any opinion on the law passed in Georgia.  I just don't agree with boycotts of companies that have nothing to do with politics to somehow usurp the power of politicians voted in by the public.  What is the point of a vote if a small group of people decide to start a twitter war against a public company until the company decides to pressure a state to change its laws?



  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,262
    Good lord.
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,239
    Good lord.
    I know right? So weird when someone doesn’t think exactly like you. Especially since you’re 100% right about everything all the time. 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,814
    I guess I can see the point you are making but I have no problems with companies moving to states where they respect the laws more....or threatening to do so.  It can be used for good or bad - depending on a person's view I guess it is always one way or the other.
    I'd support the idea that it is traditionally used solely based on profit so it is nice to see some thought behind it.

    This to me isn't cancel culture.  Coke didn't ask others to boycott Georgia, at least that I saw

    They said they disagree with some legislation passed by the state and may need to look at relocation.  Pressure, yes, certainly. 

    My pillow can move their business to GA

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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,814
    What would republicans drink if Pepsi came out and said they don't want to be known as the soda choice of vote suppressors?
    Hansen's sucks balls.  
    Fake colas are the worst.
    RC or Dr Pepper?
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    nicknyr15 said:
    Good lord.
    I know right? So weird when someone doesn’t think exactly like you. Especially since you’re 100% right about everything all the time. 

    I'm 100% right about my belief that "you can't believe half of what you see and none of what you hear"! :lol:
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,916
    I'm all for people and corporations supporting what they believe in and fighting what they don't believe in.  Having a side is a good thing, imo.

    The one group can drink coke or sleep on their my pillows and the other group can avoid mlb or goya products.


    Why have elections?  If the power lies with CEO's and corporations there is no need to vote.  Let the corporations dictate it. 
    I don't understand the connection?
    How does this impact your vote?

    You can exercise your right to patronize a company, or not, but elections are still held

    Are you thinking that because of people's loyalty to coke or my pillow that they will be made to think/vote in certain ways?

    It is a simple connection.  People voted for politicians in Georgia.  Politicians passed laws.  Some large corporation steps in to pressure politicians to change laws.  Seems like said large corporation is exerting political power that liberals hated just years ago.  You might say that corporations are responding to what its customers want, but Georgia had a vote and that is how politics should work.  If the law passed is unconstitutional you fight it in court. 

    Coke or some other company threatening to leave a state or not expand in a state is no different than Coke dangling millions of dollars in front of politicians.   I thought we wanted to get corporations out of politics?   But it is okay because right now they are doing what the liberals want them to do. 

    I'm not taking any opinion on the law passed in Georgia.  I just don't agree with boycotts of companies that have nothing to do with politics to somehow usurp the power of politicians voted in by the public.  What is the point of a vote if a small group of people decide to start a twitter war against a public company until the company decides to pressure a state to change its laws?




    People voted?
    If you honestly believe that why don't you meander to my friend Gerry?


    Corporations should get out of politics?

    Have you considered this is not politics? This is about human rights and these corporations are actually comprised of employees who are also humans,  and these people should have rights? That they should have fair access to voting that the white people of Georgia outside of Atlanta have?
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    I'm all for people and corporations supporting what they believe in and fighting what they don't believe in.  Having a side is a good thing, imo.

    The one group can drink coke or sleep on their my pillows and the other group can avoid mlb or goya products.


    Why have elections?  If the power lies with CEO's and corporations there is no need to vote.  Let the corporations dictate it. 
    I don't understand the connection?
    How does this impact your vote?

    You can exercise your right to patronize a company, or not, but elections are still held

    Are you thinking that because of people's loyalty to coke or my pillow that they will be made to think/vote in certain ways?

    I just don't agree with boycotts of companies that have nothing to do with politics to somehow usurp the power of politicians voted in by the public. 


    Given what the law is in response to and what the party in power has the potential to do with it, this isn’t  “politics” any more than it is when a big corporation gestures applause towards gay rights.  If this was about a school funding bill or something, I might be with you.
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,916
    VOTING RIGHTS IS NOT POLITICS.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,123
    VOTING RIGHTS IS NOT POLITICS.
    Agree 100%.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    When I say “politics” I mean legislation. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,262
    nicknyr15 said:
    Good lord.
    I know right? So weird when someone doesn’t think exactly like you. Especially since you’re 100% right about everything all the time. 
    Why thank you.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    It's easy to think and say I'm glad to see corporations using their power to fight voter suppression laws.  Those laws are a part of deep seated racism is parts of this country. They are wrong and something has to be done about it.
    And yet, a part of me is very worried about how these laws are being fought.  Yes, I said I was glad corporations are against voter suppression laws.  But when did I ever think corporations were about progressive values?  I've always believed they are about making money.  And when did I want corporations to persuade people to think a certain way?  That's right: never.  And what will the result of an embargo (wrong word- what is it when you penalize a person or persons by removing opportunity for revenue  or income?) ... anyway, what is the end result of that kind of action?  Aren't those actions seen as acts of aggression?  Isn't that what we've always done to other countries?  And don't we usually end up at war with those other countries? 
    And how do people respond to that kind of aggression?  Do they say, "Oh, you're right, we're sorry.  We won't be racists any more."  Sure, that would be great.  But what is more likely to happen?  I dread to think it.  Things are going to get dicey.  This is not going to turn out well. 

    That's what is going through my head right now.  But please, don't jump on me and say "Whose side are you on?"  I loathe racism and prejudice.  I support justice.  But I have also witnessed what happens in a conservative part of the country (like my present county), and I'm wondering what kind of reprisal is going to hit close to home.  It's scary and it's dangerous.  Is there no other way?  I'm seeing a bad moon on the rise.   For fuck's sake, tell me I'm wrong. 
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