*** DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED FOR A SECOND TIME *** (392 days after the first)

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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,769
    Wobbie said:
    I kinda think impeachment is an exercise in futility. I’m OK if just the SDoNY, the IRS and various aggrieved parties go after his crooked ass.
    Disagree, they need to set a precedent. If there’s no ramifications, what’s to stop it from happening again? 

  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,273
    Merkin Baller said:
    Wobbie said:
    I kinda think impeachment is an exercise in futility. I’m OK if just the SDoNY, the IRS and various aggrieved parties go after his crooked ass.
    Disagree, they need to set a precedent. If there’s no ramifications, what’s to stop it from happening again? 

    agree, kinda. the impeachment is going nowhere...the other stuff has teeth.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,769
    Wobbie said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Wobbie said:
    I kinda think impeachment is an exercise in futility. I’m OK if just the SDoNY, the IRS and various aggrieved parties go after his crooked ass.
    Disagree, they need to set a precedent. If there’s no ramifications, what’s to stop it from happening again? 

    agree, kinda. the impeachment is going nowhere...the other stuff has teeth.
    If they convict & then vote that he can never hold office again, that’s something worth pursuing. Maybe they don’t have the votes at the moment, but maybe more details come out, like that article I just linked.

    Doing nothing would set a terrible precedent. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    can they vote on never holding office again even if the senate acquits?
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  • Merkin Baller
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    can they vote on never holding office again even if the senate acquits?
    I’m under the impression they can’t, but I don’t know for sure. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,769
    Romney is correct. 


  • mickeyrat
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    AP source: Lawmakers threatened ahead of impeachment trial
    By MICHAEL BALSAMO
    18 mins ago

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Federal law enforcement officials are examining a number of threats aimed at members of Congress as the second trial of former President Donald Trump nears, including ominous chatter about killing legislators or attacking them outside of the U.S. Capitol, a U.S. official told The Associated Press.

    The threats, and concerns that armed protesters could return to sack the Capitol anew, have prompted the U.S. Capitol Police and other federal law enforcement to insist thousands of National Guard troops remain in Washington as the Senate moves forward with plans for Trump's trial, the official said.

    The shocking insurrection at the Capitol by a pro-Trump mob prompted federal officials to rethink security in and around its landmarks, resulting in an unprecedented lockdown for Biden's inauguration. Though the event went off without any problems and armed protests around the country did not materialize, the threats to lawmakers ahead of Trump's trial exemplified the continued potential for danger.

    Similar to those intercepted by investigators ahead of Biden’s inauguration, the threats that law enforcement agents are tracking vary in specificity and credibility, said the official, who had been briefed on the matter. Mainly posted online and in chat groups, the messages have included plots to attack members of Congress during travel to and from the Capitol complex during the trial, according to the official.

    The official was not authorized to not discuss an ongoing investigation publicly and spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity.

    Law enforcement officials are already starting to plan for the possibility of armed protesters returning to the nation's capital when Trump’s Senate trial on a charge of inciting a violent insurrection begins the week of Feb. 8. It would be the first impeachment trial of a former U.S. president.

    Thousands of Trump’s supporters descended on the Capitol on Jan. 6 as Congress met to certify Biden as the winner of the 2020 presidential race. More than 800 are believed to have made their way into the Capitol during the violent siege, pushing past overwhelmed police officers. The Capitol police said they planned for a free speech protest, not a riot, and were caught off-guard despite intelligence the rally would descend into a riot. Five people died in the melee, including a Capitol police officer who was struck in the head with a fire extinguisher.

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    Associated Press writer Lolita C. Baldor contributed to this report.


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  • PJNB
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    Merkin Baller said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    can they vote on never holding office again even if the senate acquits?
    I’m under the impression they can’t, but I don’t know for sure. 
    No they have to go in succession. If they acquit they will not have a vote to hold him out just like the last impeachment 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
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    let's get this show on the road!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Needing 17 (I believe it is) Republican senate votes to make this happen.  What are the chances?
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  • mcgruff10
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    brianlux said:
    Needing 17 (I believe it is) Republican senate votes to make this happen.  What are the chances?
    Correct. Sixty seven in the senate and 290 in the house is 2/3.   
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  • brianlux
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    mcgruff10 said:
    brianlux said:
    Needing 17 (I believe it is) Republican senate votes to make this happen.  What are the chances?
    Correct. Sixty seven in the senate and 290 in the house is 2/3.   

    Thanks for verification, McG.  What do you suppose the chances are?
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,401
    About 0% chance. This is like the supreme court pick before the election. Rules only apply when it favors them. If it was a democrat, republicans would be all over this. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,112
    brianlux said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    brianlux said:
    Needing 17 (I believe it is) Republican senate votes to make this happen.  What are the chances?
    Correct. Sixty seven in the senate and 290 in the house is 2/3.   

    Thanks for verification, McG.  What do you suppose the chances are?
    I think republicans want to take their party back from Trump and move on so I m going 50/50.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Kat
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    Falling down,...not staying down
  • PJNB
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    mcgruff10 said:
    brianlux said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    brianlux said:
    Needing 17 (I believe it is) Republican senate votes to make this happen.  What are the chances?
    Correct. Sixty seven in the senate and 290 in the house is 2/3.   

    Thanks for verification, McG.  What do you suppose the chances are?
    I think republicans want to take their party back from Trump and move on so I m going 50/50.  
    Very true for some. The only way I see it happening is if as a group they want to stop Trump from running 3rd party and splitting the GOP vote in 2024. If that threat is real they will vote to impeach/block him for future runs. I still think that will not happen and most of the Repub senators would be ok with another Trump run if the odds looked good he could beat Biden.  
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,401
    Kat said:


    I don't think anyone should see a problem with impeaching any president who has committed a crime. I'm all for it.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • brianlux
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    So let's assume the long shot happens and the Senate votes to impeach Trump and he is not able to run for POTUS again.  We still may very well have Donald Jr. to contend with, correct?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    A majority of Americans want to see POOTWH impeached. It needs to happen and the repubs need to grow a set and follow through, third party and primary challenges be damned. Lindsey Flimsy Flip Flop Faloozy's, Crud's, Randy's and Rube's explanations to the contrary are ridiculous. Get them on record for defending that POS. Again.
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  • brianlux
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    A majority of Americans want to see POOTWH impeached. It needs to happen and the repubs need to grow a set and follow through, third party and primary challenges be damned. Lindsey Flimsy Flip Flop Faloozy's, Crud's, Randy's and Rube's explanations to the contrary are ridiculous. Get them on record for defending that POS. Again.

    POOTWH?  Say what?  Is that like pooty?
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