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josevolution said:
Damn Wednesday is going to be a crazy day! Can Democrats do anything to combat this?cutz said:
yes, sleep well in the knowledge that Biden and Harris swear in on jan 20.
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they can do whatever they want to delay the certification of the counting of EC votes by Pence. he's already shown he is on board with mcconnel in certifiying it, as he counter-sued those idiot senators and won (they sued him to give him ultimate power to choose his own electors). it will be a couple hours of political posturing to appease trump's base and then the votes will be counted.josevolution said:
Damn Wednesday is going to be a crazy day! Can Democrats do anything to combat this?cutz said:
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there won't be one.DewieCox said:Then how long til the first casualty of Civil War 2?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:
there won't be one.DewieCox said:Then how long til the first casualty of Civil War 2?
nothing formal anyway.
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there is a lot of online chatter. but when it comes down to brass tax, 99% of those big talkers would stay the fuck home and watch the revolution on tv. and it would be a 22 minute episode.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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So, so, so glad that $1.5 trillion tax break passed, especially since it was floated by Team Trump TREASON Tax Cheat and Moscow Mitchy baby. Yea, Amazon needs subsidies to be successful. Yup, nothing’s wrong in ‘Murica.
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Paul Ryan excoriates planned GOP effort to challenge Biden's Electoral College win as 'anti-democratic and anti-conservative'
Christal HayesUSA TODAYWASHINGTON – Former House Speaker Paul Ryan excoriated fellow Republicans Sunday in a rare statement that called planned GOP efforts to challenge President-elect Joe Biden's win "anti-democratic and anti-conservative."
Ryan, a Republican from Wisconsin who served as House Speaker from 2015 to 2019, has seldom weighed in on events since leaving office, but issued a lengthy statement decrying Republican plans to object to certifying the Electoral College results in a joint session of Congress on Wednesday. Twelve incoming and sitting Republican senators and dozens of GOP House members plan to object to the count over President Donald Trump's baseless claims of widespread voter fraud.
"Efforts to reject the votes of the Electoral College and sow doubt about Joe Biden’s victory strike at the foundation of our republic," Ryan said in a statement. "It is difficult to conceive of a more anti-democratic and anti-conservative act than a federal intervention to overturn the results of state-certified elections and disenfranchise millions of Americans. The fact that this effort will fail does not mean it will not do significant damage to American democracy."
Ryan asked fellow conservatives to think about the "precedent that it would set" and noted the Trump campaign's failed efforts in the court to challenge election results in a number of states.
"The Trump campaign had ample opportunity to challenge election results, and those efforts failed from lack of evidence. The legal process was exhausted, and the results were decisively confirmed," he added. "The Department of Justice, too, found no basis for overturning the result. If states wish to reform their processes for future elections, that is their prerogative. But Joe Biden’s victory is entirely legitimate."
Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., was the first senator to announce plans to object to the electoral vote count. Since then, a batch of 11 GOP senators joined in a similar effort, vowing to object to the certification of Biden's win when Congress meets in a joint session on Wednesday if an election commission was not formed to investigate the election and claims of fraud.
While the effort to overturn results is doomed to fail, the objections will launch a dramatic and lengthy process that includes two hours of debate and a vote in each chamber for each state that is challenged.
The process is likely to stretch into an all-day event that will start the new Congress off with a divisive political battle.
Ryan, who ran as the Republican party's nominee for vice president on the ticket with Sen. Mitt Romney in 2012, has rarely spoken out since leaving office. He was often a target of Trump while serving in the House and continued to receive scorn even after leaving the House.
In one of his only other notable remarks since departing Washington, Ryan was quoted in "American Carnage," a 2019 book by Politico reporter Tim Alberta, as saying that Trump didn't know "anything about government" and retirement was an "escape hatch" because he couldn't stand another two years with Trump as president.
Trump has said that Republicans like Ryan "almost killed" the party, calling him "weak, ineffective & stupid." The president has also called Ryan a "baby" and said he "couldn't get him out of Congress fast enough."
Ryan has remained mum on responding to many of Trump's attacks, trying to stay out of the fray even as his friend and former running mate Romney became Trump's No. 1 GOP target. In late November, Ryan reportedly called for Trump to concede and drop his lawsuits, telling virtual banking conference attendees Trump's campaign was offering "baseless conspiracy theories."
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yeah, they all miraculously grow a spine once they are immune to trump's attacks on their political welfare.mickeyrat said:Paul Ryan excoriates planned GOP effort to challenge Biden's Electoral College win as 'anti-democratic and anti-conservative'
Christal HayesUSA TODAYWASHINGTON – Former House Speaker Paul Ryan excoriated fellow Republicans Sunday in a rare statement that called planned GOP efforts to challenge President-elect Joe Biden's win "anti-democratic and anti-conservative."
Ryan, a Republican from Wisconsin who served as House Speaker from 2015 to 2019, has seldom weighed in on events since leaving office, but issued a lengthy statement decrying Republican plans to object to certifying the Electoral College results in a joint session of Congress on Wednesday. Twelve incoming and sitting Republican senators and dozens of GOP House members plan to object to the count over President Donald Trump's baseless claims of widespread voter fraud.
"Efforts to reject the votes of the Electoral College and sow doubt about Joe Biden’s victory strike at the foundation of our republic," Ryan said in a statement. "It is difficult to conceive of a more anti-democratic and anti-conservative act than a federal intervention to overturn the results of state-certified elections and disenfranchise millions of Americans. The fact that this effort will fail does not mean it will not do significant damage to American democracy."
Ryan asked fellow conservatives to think about the "precedent that it would set" and noted the Trump campaign's failed efforts in the court to challenge election results in a number of states.
"The Trump campaign had ample opportunity to challenge election results, and those efforts failed from lack of evidence. The legal process was exhausted, and the results were decisively confirmed," he added. "The Department of Justice, too, found no basis for overturning the result. If states wish to reform their processes for future elections, that is their prerogative. But Joe Biden’s victory is entirely legitimate."
Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., was the first senator to announce plans to object to the electoral vote count. Since then, a batch of 11 GOP senators joined in a similar effort, vowing to object to the certification of Biden's win when Congress meets in a joint session on Wednesday if an election commission was not formed to investigate the election and claims of fraud.
While the effort to overturn results is doomed to fail, the objections will launch a dramatic and lengthy process that includes two hours of debate and a vote in each chamber for each state that is challenged.
The process is likely to stretch into an all-day event that will start the new Congress off with a divisive political battle.
Ryan, who ran as the Republican party's nominee for vice president on the ticket with Sen. Mitt Romney in 2012, has rarely spoken out since leaving office. He was often a target of Trump while serving in the House and continued to receive scorn even after leaving the House.
In one of his only other notable remarks since departing Washington, Ryan was quoted in "American Carnage," a 2019 book by Politico reporter Tim Alberta, as saying that Trump didn't know "anything about government" and retirement was an "escape hatch" because he couldn't stand another two years with Trump as president.
Trump has said that Republicans like Ryan "almost killed" the party, calling him "weak, ineffective & stupid." The president has also called Ryan a "baby" and said he "couldn't get him out of Congress fast enough."
Ryan has remained mum on responding to many of Trump's attacks, trying to stay out of the fray even as his friend and former running mate Romney became Trump's No. 1 GOP target. In late November, Ryan reportedly called for Trump to concede and drop his lawsuits, telling virtual banking conference attendees Trump's campaign was offering "baseless conspiracy theories."
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He looks like a fat Elvis impersonator in that photo.Halifax2TheMax said:Who’s excited for 2024?It's a hopeless situation...0 -
You’re absolutely correct. I’m not a Ryan fan but at least he got out when his wife told him you’re not working with or for trump. He should have, could have, been more vocal for the last 4 years but he like all the others are probably looking to return to politics one day.HughFreakingDillon said:
yeah, they all miraculously grow a spine once they are immune to trump's attacks on their political welfare.mickeyrat said:Paul Ryan excoriates planned GOP effort to challenge Biden's Electoral College win as 'anti-democratic and anti-conservative'
Christal HayesUSA TODAYWASHINGTON – Former House Speaker Paul Ryan excoriated fellow Republicans Sunday in a rare statement that called planned GOP efforts to challenge President-elect Joe Biden's win "anti-democratic and anti-conservative."
Ryan, a Republican from Wisconsin who served as House Speaker from 2015 to 2019, has seldom weighed in on events since leaving office, but issued a lengthy statement decrying Republican plans to object to certifying the Electoral College results in a joint session of Congress on Wednesday. Twelve incoming and sitting Republican senators and dozens of GOP House members plan to object to the count over President Donald Trump's baseless claims of widespread voter fraud.
"Efforts to reject the votes of the Electoral College and sow doubt about Joe Biden’s victory strike at the foundation of our republic," Ryan said in a statement. "It is difficult to conceive of a more anti-democratic and anti-conservative act than a federal intervention to overturn the results of state-certified elections and disenfranchise millions of Americans. The fact that this effort will fail does not mean it will not do significant damage to American democracy."
Ryan asked fellow conservatives to think about the "precedent that it would set" and noted the Trump campaign's failed efforts in the court to challenge election results in a number of states.
"The Trump campaign had ample opportunity to challenge election results, and those efforts failed from lack of evidence. The legal process was exhausted, and the results were decisively confirmed," he added. "The Department of Justice, too, found no basis for overturning the result. If states wish to reform their processes for future elections, that is their prerogative. But Joe Biden’s victory is entirely legitimate."
Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., was the first senator to announce plans to object to the electoral vote count. Since then, a batch of 11 GOP senators joined in a similar effort, vowing to object to the certification of Biden's win when Congress meets in a joint session on Wednesday if an election commission was not formed to investigate the election and claims of fraud.
While the effort to overturn results is doomed to fail, the objections will launch a dramatic and lengthy process that includes two hours of debate and a vote in each chamber for each state that is challenged.
The process is likely to stretch into an all-day event that will start the new Congress off with a divisive political battle.
Ryan, who ran as the Republican party's nominee for vice president on the ticket with Sen. Mitt Romney in 2012, has rarely spoken out since leaving office. He was often a target of Trump while serving in the House and continued to receive scorn even after leaving the House.
In one of his only other notable remarks since departing Washington, Ryan was quoted in "American Carnage," a 2019 book by Politico reporter Tim Alberta, as saying that Trump didn't know "anything about government" and retirement was an "escape hatch" because he couldn't stand another two years with Trump as president.
Trump has said that Republicans like Ryan "almost killed" the party, calling him "weak, ineffective & stupid." The president has also called Ryan a "baby" and said he "couldn't get him out of Congress fast enough."
Ryan has remained mum on responding to many of Trump's attacks, trying to stay out of the fray even as his friend and former running mate Romney became Trump's No. 1 GOP target. In late November, Ryan reportedly called for Trump to concede and drop his lawsuits, telling virtual banking conference attendees Trump's campaign was offering "baseless conspiracy theories."
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his wife "made" him quit? I hadn't heard that.cblock4life said:
You’re absolutely correct. I’m not a Ryan fan but at least he got out when his wife told him you’re not working with or for trump. He should have, could have, been more vocal for the last 4 years but he like all the others are probably looking to return to politics one day.HughFreakingDillon said:
yeah, they all miraculously grow a spine once they are immune to trump's attacks on their political welfare.mickeyrat said:Paul Ryan excoriates planned GOP effort to challenge Biden's Electoral College win as 'anti-democratic and anti-conservative'
Christal HayesUSA TODAYWASHINGTON – Former House Speaker Paul Ryan excoriated fellow Republicans Sunday in a rare statement that called planned GOP efforts to challenge President-elect Joe Biden's win "anti-democratic and anti-conservative."
Ryan, a Republican from Wisconsin who served as House Speaker from 2015 to 2019, has seldom weighed in on events since leaving office, but issued a lengthy statement decrying Republican plans to object to certifying the Electoral College results in a joint session of Congress on Wednesday. Twelve incoming and sitting Republican senators and dozens of GOP House members plan to object to the count over President Donald Trump's baseless claims of widespread voter fraud.
"Efforts to reject the votes of the Electoral College and sow doubt about Joe Biden’s victory strike at the foundation of our republic," Ryan said in a statement. "It is difficult to conceive of a more anti-democratic and anti-conservative act than a federal intervention to overturn the results of state-certified elections and disenfranchise millions of Americans. The fact that this effort will fail does not mean it will not do significant damage to American democracy."
Ryan asked fellow conservatives to think about the "precedent that it would set" and noted the Trump campaign's failed efforts in the court to challenge election results in a number of states.
"The Trump campaign had ample opportunity to challenge election results, and those efforts failed from lack of evidence. The legal process was exhausted, and the results were decisively confirmed," he added. "The Department of Justice, too, found no basis for overturning the result. If states wish to reform their processes for future elections, that is their prerogative. But Joe Biden’s victory is entirely legitimate."
Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., was the first senator to announce plans to object to the electoral vote count. Since then, a batch of 11 GOP senators joined in a similar effort, vowing to object to the certification of Biden's win when Congress meets in a joint session on Wednesday if an election commission was not formed to investigate the election and claims of fraud.
While the effort to overturn results is doomed to fail, the objections will launch a dramatic and lengthy process that includes two hours of debate and a vote in each chamber for each state that is challenged.
The process is likely to stretch into an all-day event that will start the new Congress off with a divisive political battle.
Ryan, who ran as the Republican party's nominee for vice president on the ticket with Sen. Mitt Romney in 2012, has rarely spoken out since leaving office. He was often a target of Trump while serving in the House and continued to receive scorn even after leaving the House.
In one of his only other notable remarks since departing Washington, Ryan was quoted in "American Carnage," a 2019 book by Politico reporter Tim Alberta, as saying that Trump didn't know "anything about government" and retirement was an "escape hatch" because he couldn't stand another two years with Trump as president.
Trump has said that Republicans like Ryan "almost killed" the party, calling him "weak, ineffective & stupid." The president has also called Ryan a "baby" and said he "couldn't get him out of Congress fast enough."
Ryan has remained mum on responding to many of Trump's attacks, trying to stay out of the fray even as his friend and former running mate Romney became Trump's No. 1 GOP target. In late November, Ryan reportedly called for Trump to concede and drop his lawsuits, telling virtual banking conference attendees Trump's campaign was offering "baseless conspiracy theories."
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Nor had I. I don't necessarily applaud him (admittedly I'm biased because I can't stand him) but I appreciate him coming out and at least calling out the most seditious acts (that's the GOP bar for now).HughFreakingDillon said:
his wife "made" him quit? I hadn't heard that.cblock4life said:
You’re absolutely correct. I’m not a Ryan fan but at least he got out when his wife told him you’re not working with or for trump. He should have, could have, been more vocal for the last 4 years but he like all the others are probably looking to return to politics one day.HughFreakingDillon said:
yeah, they all miraculously grow a spine once they are immune to trump's attacks on their political welfare.mickeyrat said:
For his legacy, quietly slinking out at a fairly young age will be a positive. At that time GOPers were either with Trump or they were retiring. There are too many compliant/cowardly/seditious people for history to care at all about those that quietly retired. Paul Ryan will not really be remembered for the Trump era.
For his political ambitions, it's too early to tell whether his retirement will help or hurt. Right now it hurts (as evidenced by the fear that the GOP has of the Trump base pulling their support). In a good scenario, the GOP moves on from Trump and it serves him well. In a bad scenario, the GOP remains the Party of Trump and Ryan has no party or political future.
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this is how much i paid attention to US politics prior to trump: I didn't know until about an hour ago that Ryan was Romney's VP pick. LOLOnWis97 said:
Nor had I. I don't necessarily applaud him (admittedly I'm biased because I can't stand him) but I appreciate him coming out and at least calling out the most seditious acts (that's the GOP bar for now).HughFreakingDillon said:
his wife "made" him quit? I hadn't heard that.cblock4life said:
You’re absolutely correct. I’m not a Ryan fan but at least he got out when his wife told him you’re not working with or for trump. He should have, could have, been more vocal for the last 4 years but he like all the others are probably looking to return to politics one day.HughFreakingDillon said:
yeah, they all miraculously grow a spine once they are immune to trump's attacks on their political welfare.mickeyrat said:
For his legacy, quietly slinking out at a fairly young age will be a positive. At that time GOPers were either with Trump or they were retiring. There are too many compliant/cowardly/seditious people for history to care at all about those that quietly retired. Paul Ryan will not really be remembered for the Trump era.
For his political ambitions, it's too early to tell whether his retirement will help or hurt. Right now it hurts (as evidenced by the fear that the GOP has of the Trump base pulling their support). In a good scenario, the GOP moves on from Trump and it serves him well. In a bad scenario, the GOP remains the Party of Trump and Ryan has no party or political future.
I hate Paul Ryan but I really miss hating people's awful politics instead of their awful treason.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
this is the Trump Effect. Republicans, every single fucking time they lose, are going to cry foul and use every trick in the book to seize power. it's disgusting. we've been saying it for 4 years: TIME FOR DEMS TO GROW A PAIR AND FIGHT BACK
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Republicans are raging at Trump over their debacle. Their spin is nonsense. Opinion by Greg Sargent https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/06/republican-senate-debacle-mcconnell-spin/
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What is it with Illinois and Nazis?
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