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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,715
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    to say i was disgusted by the pardons is the understatement of 2020. there is no fucking bottom.
    Yeah I 'm not thrilled with the white collar stuff, but I'm not going blow a gasket about it.  Blackwater is different.  That was murder. 
    The only white collar stuff that upsets me is people that have liked/supported Trump.  That he's rewarding those that suck up to him and/or supported him in 2016 is pathetic.

    As for Blackwater, yeah, definitely awful and definitely worse than even his pardioning of the Trump lovers. But beyond that, it doesn't even make sense.  It seems like he's giving the neocons a nod.  His base hates the neocons almost as much as they hate the left (even though most are former neocons). I haven't read a single story or editorial on it so maybe there's a very Trumpian rationale, but I'm surprised by it.
    I don't know.  He has indicated in his tenure that he was okay with torture and he certainly doesn't see killing brown people the same as killing white people.  I honestly think this is as much about his racist beliefs as some nod to neocons or that he thinks they were justified in the assault.  

    Apparently Betsy DeVos's brother founded Blackwater.  God these people are shameless.


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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,880


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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    the trump stink. LOL
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,673
    I wonder how many ABs he's going to pardon?
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,995
    incoming.

    rudy told to prepare for imminent legal action by dominion voting systems...

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    Bentleyspop said:
    I wonder how many ABs he's going to pardon?
    AB's?
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,880
    The disclaimer that Newsmax was running the last few days regarding Dominion, etc. was pretty damning.  They know they are fucked so they are distancing themselves from the shit they let those morons say on their network.


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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    Gern Blansten said:
    The disclaimer that Newsmax was running the last few days regarding Dominion, etc. was pretty damning.  They know they are fucked so they are distancing themselves from the shit they let those morons say on their network.


    i'm loving the pushback trump's team is getting on this. they should be suing trump too. he tweeted half this shit too, didn't he?
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,880
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    The disclaimer that Newsmax was running the last few days regarding Dominion, etc. was pretty damning.  They know they are fucked so they are distancing themselves from the shit they let those morons say on their network.


    i'm loving the pushback trump's team is getting on this. they should be suing trump too. he tweeted half this shit too, didn't he?
    yes...it might be one motherfucker of a lawsuit
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    maybe they are waiting until Jan 21
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    trump vetoes National Defense Authorization Act. Unfortunately for him, the bill passed both houses with supermajorities that allow them to override the veto, if they choose to vote again next week against the veto. 

    he's a disgrace. Now add the military to the growing list of people that rightfully are going to hate this asshole. 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,880
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    trump vetoes National Defense Authorization Act. Unfortunately for him, the bill passed both houses with supermajorities that allow them to override the veto, if they choose to vote again next week against the veto. 

    he's a disgrace. Now add the military to the growing list of people that rightfully are going to hate this asshole. 
    He seems to be acting strictly for the Proud Boys at this point....very odd
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  • ikiT
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    Jesus.  What a disaster.
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    Gern Blansten said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    trump vetoes National Defense Authorization Act. Unfortunately for him, the bill passed both houses with supermajorities that allow them to override the veto, if they choose to vote again next week against the veto. 

    he's a disgrace. Now add the military to the growing list of people that rightfully are going to hate this asshole. 
    He seems to be acting strictly for the Proud Boys at this point....very odd
    And Putin on the ritz.
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  • mcgruff10
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    trump vetoes National Defense Authorization Act. Unfortunately for him, the bill passed both houses with supermajorities that allow them to override the veto, if they choose to vote again next week against the veto. 

    he's a disgrace. Now add the military to the growing list of people that rightfully are going to hate this asshole. 
    All because of some bases named after confederate generals.   What a moron 
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,715
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    trump vetoes National Defense Authorization Act. Unfortunately for him, the bill passed both houses with supermajorities that allow them to override the veto, if they choose to vote again next week against the veto. 

    he's a disgrace. Now add the military to the growing list of people that rightfully are going to hate this asshole. 
    It'll be interesting to see what comes of the knowledge that his veto can be overridden. Will GOP members be willing to do so?

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  • Merkin Baller
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    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    to say i was disgusted by the pardons is the understatement of 2020. there is no fucking bottom.
    Yeah I 'm not thrilled with the white collar stuff, but I'm not going blow a gasket about it.  Blackwater is different.  That was murder. 
    The only white collar stuff that upsets me is people that have liked/supported Trump.  That he's rewarding those that suck up to him and/or supported him in 2016 is pathetic.

    As for Blackwater, yeah, definitely awful and definitely worse than even his pardioning of the Trump lovers. But beyond that, it doesn't even make sense.  It seems like he's giving the neocons a nod.  His base hates the neocons almost as much as they hate the left (even though most are former neocons). I haven't read a single story or editorial on it so maybe there's a very Trumpian rationale, but I'm surprised by it.
    I don't know.  He has indicated in his tenure that he was okay with torture and he certainly doesn't see killing brown people the same as killing white people.  I honestly think this is as much about his racist beliefs as some nod to neocons or that he thinks they were justified in the assault.  
    The pardons of Eddie Gallagher & Sherriff Arpaio would seem to support this theory. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    OnWis97 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    trump vetoes National Defense Authorization Act. Unfortunately for him, the bill passed both houses with supermajorities that allow them to override the veto, if they choose to vote again next week against the veto. 

    he's a disgrace. Now add the military to the growing list of people that rightfully are going to hate this asshole. 
    It'll be interesting to see what comes of the knowledge that his veto can be overridden. Will GOP members be willing to do so?

    I think we have slipped past the "please trump because he might have a chance at a second term" stage. We are creeping towards "GOP moving on to save their own skin" phase. 

    I think they vote to veto. 
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  • benjs
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    OnWis97 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    trump vetoes National Defense Authorization Act. Unfortunately for him, the bill passed both houses with supermajorities that allow them to override the veto, if they choose to vote again next week against the veto. 

    he's a disgrace. Now add the military to the growing list of people that rightfully are going to hate this asshole. 
    It'll be interesting to see what comes of the knowledge that his veto can be overridden. Will GOP members be willing to do so?

    I think we have slipped past the "please trump because he might have a chance at a second term" stage. We are creeping towards "GOP moving on to save their own skin" phase. 

    I think they vote to veto. 
    I think the GOP should work on their spinelessness problem before they focus on skin, though it's an appropriately superficial position for them to take.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,715
    edited December 2020
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    OnWis97 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    trump vetoes National Defense Authorization Act. Unfortunately for him, the bill passed both houses with supermajorities that allow them to override the veto, if they choose to vote again next week against the veto. 

    he's a disgrace. Now add the military to the growing list of people that rightfully are going to hate this asshole. 
    It'll be interesting to see what comes of the knowledge that his veto can be overridden. Will GOP members be willing to do so?

    I think we have slipped past the "please trump because he might have a chance at a second term" stage. We are creeping towards "GOP moving on to save their own skin" phase. 

    I think they vote to veto. 

    I don't even think it would be about his chance at a second term as much as 1) some of them just love to make him happy and/or are scared of a mean tweet and 2) the GOP base is still in Trump Cult form and that's who they're trying to please.
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