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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,147
    static111 said:
    It blows my mind that some people didn’t know blackface was racist... I’m not a kid that grew up in pc culture.  I grew up in the 80’s and 90’s and knew that shit was bad just like the black lawn ornaments and old cartoons with the Red lips etc.  I grew up in the middle of nowhere in a largely white rural area  and there wasn’t exactly a source of info to tell me that stuff was wrong either. So who knows maybe some people didn’t know it was bad for 100s of years....

    as for voting I’m not Canadian so it’s none of my business.  It gives me pause that it seems like the only reason we vote for anyone these days in any country is because the alternative is worse.  Clearly there is something wrong at the root of this kind of system. I can’t imagine that this whole but the alternative is a disaster business is going to help us make any progress.
    old cartoons with red lips?

    it probably didn't cross my mind as bad because i don't recall even knowing it existed. if i had seen videos of white people wearing blackface acting in certain ways, of course i would have figured it out on my own. but putting on black makeup for halloween and putting on a bunch of chains so you'll look like Mr T from the A Team? Fuck no. I never saw anyone do it, but if I did, I can't see why I'd bat an eye. as a kid, it would have just been part of the costume. no different than if you would have bought the costume and it came with a brown mask. 
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,917
    old cartoons with red lips?

    it probably didn't cross my mind as bad because i don't recall even knowing it existed. if i had seen videos of white people wearing blackface acting in certain ways, of course i would have figured it out on my own. but putting on black makeup for halloween and putting on a bunch of chains so you'll look like Mr T from the A Team? Fuck no. I never saw anyone do it, but if I did, I can't see why I'd bat an eye. as a kid, it would have just been part of the costume. no different than if you would have bought the costume and it came with a brown mask. 
    I’m sure that Canada’s history with this stuff is much different in the USA.  There used to be horrible old cartoons here used to sell things or generally humiliate African Americans wherein everyone had jet black skin and big red lips.  Truly revolting stuff.  We also had traveling blackface ministerial shows that were very popular among the whites because they lampooned African Americans also truly sick stuff. I’m guessing that there wasn’t that history in Canada and that likely made it not seem as big of a deal...as far as the other point, it’s pathetic we have to vote for weak terrible politicians because the alternatives are so bad.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,147
    static111 said:
    I’m sure that Canada’s history with this stuff is much different in the USA.  There used to be horrible old cartoons here used to sell things or generally humiliate African Americans wherein everyone had jet black skin and big red lips.  Truly revolting stuff.  We also had traveling blackface ministerial shows that were very popular among the whites because they lampooned African Americans also truly sick stuff. I’m guessing that there wasn’t that history in Canada and that likely made it not seem as big of a deal...as far as the other point, it’s pathetic we have to vote for weak terrible politicians because the alternatives are so bad.
    jesus. again, i didn't know any of that existed. see, you said that you figured this out all on your own, but you clearly had context I didn't have. 

    we have racism just like the US. our treatment of aboriginals in this country is abhorrent. 

    I don't think trudeau is weak. he has made some bad calls, obviously has scandals, but overall I think he is a truly good guy and a good leader, if a tad naive at times (many conservatives call him corrupt and a "wannabe dictator", which i find hilarious). I think he did a great job with covid 19. I like his "stereotypical canadian" views on helping refugees. i probably would have voted for him regardless of the conservative candidate; but I have voted all 5 parties in the past; i'm not beholden to one party. I liked singh until I realized he's just a virtue signalling opportunist. maybe the next election will be different. but I do understand your point. it often seems to be "ok, I don't hate this guy". 
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,917
    jesus. again, i didn't know any of that existed. see, you said that you figured this out all on your own, but you clearly had context I didn't have. 

    we have racism just like the US. our treatment of aboriginals in this country is abhorrent. 

    I don't think trudeau is weak. he has made some bad calls, obviously has scandals, but overall I think he is a truly good guy and a good leader, if a tad naive at times (many conservatives call him corrupt and a "wannabe dictator", which i find hilarious). I think he did a great job with covid 19. I like his "stereotypical canadian" views on helping refugees. i probably would have voted for him regardless of the conservative candidate; but I have voted all 5 parties in the past; i'm not beholden to one party. I liked singh until I realized he's just a virtue signalling opportunist. maybe the next election will be different. but I do understand your point. it often seems to be "ok, I don't hate this guy". 
    It’s pretty terrible all of the stuff the world doesn’t know about the racism in the USA...

    Its nice to hear that even with failings you see Trudeau as doing a good job overall.  
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,697
    edited September 2020
    jesus. again, i didn't know any of that existed. see, you said that you figured this out all on your own, but you clearly had context I didn't have. 

    we have racism just like the US. our treatment of aboriginals in this country is abhorrent. 

    I don't think trudeau is weak. he has made some bad calls, obviously has scandals, but overall I think he is a truly good guy and a good leader, if a tad naive at times (many conservatives call him corrupt and a "wannabe dictator", which i find hilarious). I think he did a great job with covid 19. I like his "stereotypical canadian" views on helping refugees. i probably would have voted for him regardless of the conservative candidate; but I have voted all 5 parties in the past; i'm not beholden to one party. I liked singh until I realized he's just a virtue signalling opportunist. maybe the next election will be different. but I do understand your point. it often seems to be "ok, I don't hate this guy". 
    I'm with you on this one. I don't see it as racist if someone was dressing up as a certain character for a costume party from decades ago. I wouldn't have thought twice about dressing as Mr. T as you put it at a college party 20 years ago. I wouldn't do it now, but 20 years ago people wouldn't have seen someone dressed as Mr T (or Aladdin as the case with Trudeau) and thought back to the images Static described. I think there's a big difference between painting someone with jet black skin and giant red lips, and dressing like a character you like. 
    If I had 3 friends who wanted to dress up as the A-Team in college for a party, no one I knew would have said that's racist 20 years ago to whoever was B.A. Barabus. We'd probably paper-rock-scissors to see who got to be him, he was the coolest.
    The fact these pictures are coming out for different people from yearbooks from 20, 30, 40 years ago also to me suggests no one thought twice about it back then. I doubt they'd do it now.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,147
    no one gave two shits about Tropic Thunder when Robert Downey Jr wore blackface in 2008. Jesus, he was nominated for best supporting actor for it. 
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    static111 said:
    It’s pretty terrible all of the stuff the world doesn’t know about the racism in the USA...

    Its nice to hear that even with failings you see Trudeau as doing a good job overall.  
    Maybe instead of taking the word of 1 Canadian...do your own research.  

    Mine is just 1 opinion.  He has been convicted twice by the ethics commissioner and is currently embroiled in another scandal with the WE charity in which the charity was handed 1 billion to administer a government program which never happened because the WE charity turned out to be crooked...no one can confirm if the billion was ever returned...and the WE Charity is in the process of selling all Canadian assets and bugging out of 🇨🇦.  The WE Charity scandal is also under investigation by the ethics commissioner and a conviction is likely, making that 3 convictions.

    The PM had 3 separate photos surface of blackface a year ago.

    All the PM did during the pandemic was spend money.  The premiers of the provinces were the true leaders...lead by Canada’s most popular premier Doug Ford a conservative.

    Don’t believe me...do your own research.  
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,917
    Maybe instead of taking the word of 1 Canadian...do your own research.  

    Mine is just 1 opinion.  He has been convicted twice by the ethics commissioner and is currently embroiled in another scandal with the WE charity in which the charity was handed 1 billion to administer a government program which never happened because the WE charity turned out to be crooked...no one can confirm if the billion was ever returned...and the WE Charity is in the process of selling all Canadian assets and bugging out of 🇨🇦.  The WE Charity scandal is also under investigation by the ethics commissioner and a conviction is likely, making that 3 convictions.

    The PM had 3 separate photos surface of blackface a year ago.

    All the PM did during the pandemic was spend money.  The premiers of the provinces were the true leaders...lead by Canada’s most popular premier Doug Ford a conservative.

    Don’t believe me...do your own research.  
    So you think Trudeau isn’t doing a good job?  Thanks for the input, I’m glad that you would prefer another candidate, that’s politics.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,147
    static111 said:
    So you think Trudeau isn’t doing a good job?  Thanks for the input, I’m glad that you would prefer another candidate, that’s politics.
    what he meant to say was "don't take the opinion of one canadian that doesn't share my hatred of trudeau, except for that two week period where i loved him". LOL
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




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    Do I dislike Fox New?  Faux show.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,147
    brianlux said:
    Do I dislike Fox New?  Faux show.
    LMAO
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    brianlux said:
    Do I dislike Fox New?  Faux show.

    Reminds of a dumb joke I like.

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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 31,018
    seriously, Fox needs to be declared a terrorist organization.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 31,018
    on my news feed, I see a Faux headline (paraphrasing) “Fauci condemns Trump super spreader rallies; silent on Biden celebrations.”

    uh....hello? one was organized and sanctioned by the (POS) POTUS; the others were spontaneous; not endorsed or sanctioned by anyone.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 31,018
    cutz said:

    big. fucking. shocker.

    kinda like their SCOTUS thinking.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    no one gave two shits about Tropic Thunder when Robert Downey Jr wore blackface in 2008. Jesus, he was nominated for best supporting actor for it. 
    That's not really a good example, his use of blackface was satirical, it directly called attention to the problematic nature of blackface by making direct jokes about how inappropriate it is...
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,147
    rgambs said:
    That's not really a good example, his use of blackface was satirical, it directly called attention to the problematic nature of blackface by making direct jokes about how inappropriate it is...
    come on gambs, you've obviously got a lot of catching up to do. LOL
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,887


    Gotta be something good he is bypassing the courts and bringing it straight to Hannity! 
  • static111static111 Posts: 4,917
    PJNB said:


    Gotta be something good he is bypassing the courts and bringing it straight to Hannity! 
    Is there not someone that can stop all this bullshit.  For a guy that ran on the slogan no more bullshit, he sure has a lot
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,215
    static111 said:
    Is there not someone that can stop all this bullshit.  For a guy that ran on the slogan no more bullshit, he sure has a lot
    When the liar-in-chief says black you know its white.
    When he's says go left you know to go right.
    When he says something is down you better look up.
  • static111 said:
    Is there not someone that can stop all this bullshit.  For a guy that ran on the slogan no more bullshit, he sure has a lot
    Something, other than someone, called reality.
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,917
    Something, other than someone, called reality.
    Would work if he wasn’t living in alternative reality with alternative facts
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,215
    static111 said:
    Would work if he wasn’t living in alternative reality with alternative facts
    Everyone knows that reality has a clear liberal bias. 
    Along with data, facts, numbers, and the weather. 
  • static111static111 Posts: 4,917
    Everyone knows that reality has a clear liberal bias. 
    Along with data, facts, numbers, and the weather. 
    Everyone knows this?
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,215
    static111 said:
    Everyone knows this?
    Everyone who thinks there is a liberal conspiracy to steal the white house from gods gift
  • KatKat Posts: 4,947
    PJNB said:


    Gotta be something good he is bypassing the courts and bringing it straight to Hannity! ! 
    If it's the kind of evidence that you can't take to a Court, then it's no evidence at all. He thinks his followers are stupid but he *knows* the Court isn't. 
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,147
    Kat said:
    If it's the kind of evidence that you can't take to a Court, then it's no evidence at all. He thinks his followers are stupid but he *knows* the Court isn't. 
    exactly. 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




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