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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,838
    people still highly confident?
    Trump would have to take either Nevada or Arizona (Biden currently leads) AND keep all the states he is currently leading. Its definitely looking like a Biden win, but not set in stone yet. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,274
    Biden
    people still highly confident?
    Depends on the outstanding votes in PA....it doesn't seem like there is a definitive answer as to how many are out there.  I'm seeing people on twitter being very confident but not sure if they have good data or not.
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  • mace1229
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    DewieCox said:
    How exactly is this possible? A batch of over 23,000 votes all for Biden? 


    Trump voters were mailed Sharpies with their ballots.
    So one attempted joke and no other responses? I guess you're all thinking what I'm thinking: weird for 538 to give an approximate amount of how many Luzerne County votes Biden got, and say all 23,000ish in Philly were for Biden. 
    I Don’t think it’s weird that a block of votes from a heavily D area all went to joe.  
    Well I sure do. 23,277 votes ALL for Biden? It's impossible. No matter how "heavily D" it is.  Either 538 is being irresponsible with how they're reporting that. Or...well...you know. 
    No I don’t know. A huge portion of ballots that everyone thought would go D went D?
    Funny. If you look at the returns by county from 2016, particularly deep red states, you see Hillary didn’t get a single vote. But you didn’t have anyone on here whining about it.
    Demographics mean nothing when you are hungry for a conspiracy
    I’m not hungry for a conspiracy. That’s a lot of votes in one batch to all go to one candidate. 
    Its like that kid who is failing and cheats on his final exam and gets a 100%. At least get a couple wrong to make it not look so obvious!
    For the life of me I can’t find anywhere that is reporting that Joe got 100% of the vote in any batch.  Again I would not be surprised if it was in a heavy blue district and it was one batch.  I can’t find one reputable source that claims Biden is getting 100% of any batch.  I think you guys are looking for a reason to call fraud.  It’s ridiculous. Please link me an article of what you are alleging can be corroborated. 
    Google search "ballot dump Biden" and you get lots of stories. This is the one I referred to. 
    https://www.thatsnonsense.com/did-joe-biden-receive-100-of-a-mail-in-ballot-dump-in-michigan-fact-check/
    That was just the first search result. Feel free to search for a more recognizable source. 

    I also saw more stories popping up than I did last night. One other explanation was that some states enter data one candidate at a time. If thats true, you will see Trump dumps too. 
    Pretty weak explanations, but not convinced its a large scale fraud yet. 
    That actually makes sense dumping all ballots for each candidate separately.  Which would lead to speculation pretty easily if people weren’t aware of this fact.
    I don't see how that would be easier or beneficial. Why separate ballots? And is it separated by party of the registered voter or what? But either way, this would be easily verified. If they claim the ballot dump is normal, but it only happened 1 time in favor of 1 candidate, then there's definitely something fishy. If it happened several times in favor of each candidate, then probably is normal. 
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,379
    Biden
    people still highly confident?
    Nope.

    Nevada seems like a wild card. No updates for about 30 hours with only an 8,000 vote lead? Scary stuff!

    I have hope that AZ holds off the late Trump push. But I think NC is gone. Not sure Biden has enough to overcome the deficit to overtake either GA or PA.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,601
    Biden
    people still highly confident?

    No. Not sure I ever was highly confident, but I felt better yesterday than I do today.
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,110
    edited November 2020
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
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    DewieCox said:
    How exactly is this possible? A batch of over 23,000 votes all for Biden? 


    Trump voters were mailed Sharpies with their ballots.
    So one attempted joke and no other responses? I guess you're all thinking what I'm thinking: weird for 538 to give an approximate amount of how many Luzerne County votes Biden got, and say all 23,000ish in Philly were for Biden. 
    I Don’t think it’s weird that a block of votes from a heavily D area all went to joe.  
    Well I sure do. 23,277 votes ALL for Biden? It's impossible. No matter how "heavily D" it is.  Either 538 is being irresponsible with how they're reporting that. Or...well...you know. 
    No I don’t know. A huge portion of ballots that everyone thought would go D went D?
    Funny. If you look at the returns by county from 2016, particularly deep red states, you see Hillary didn’t get a single vote. But you didn’t have anyone on here whining about it.
    Demographics mean nothing when you are hungry for a conspiracy
    I’m not hungry for a conspiracy. That’s a lot of votes in one batch to all go to one candidate. 
    Its like that kid who is failing and cheats on his final exam and gets a 100%. At least get a couple wrong to make it not look so obvious!
    For the life of me I can’t find anywhere that is reporting that Joe got 100% of the vote in any batch.  Again I would not be surprised if it was in a heavy blue district and it was one batch.  I can’t find one reputable source that claims Biden is getting 100% of any batch.  I think you guys are looking for a reason to call fraud.  It’s ridiculous. Please link me an article of what you are alleging can be corroborated. 
    Google search "ballot dump Biden" and you get lots of stories. This is the one I referred to. 
    https://www.thatsnonsense.com/did-joe-biden-receive-100-of-a-mail-in-ballot-dump-in-michigan-fact-check/
    That was just the first search result. Feel free to search for a more recognizable source. 

    I also saw more stories popping up than I did last night. One other explanation was that some states enter data one candidate at a time. If thats true, you will see Trump dumps too. 
    Pretty weak explanations, but not convinced its a large scale fraud yet. 
    That actually makes sense dumping all ballots for each candidate separately.  Which would lead to speculation pretty easily if people weren’t aware of this fact.
    I don't see how that would be easier or beneficial. Why separate ballots? And is it separated by party of the registered voter or what? But either way, this would be easily verified. If they claim the ballot dump is normal, but it only happened 1 time in favor of 1 candidate, then there's definitely something fishy. If it happened several times in favor of each candidate, then probably is normal. 
    I’m not saying separated ballots although I did use the words. I meant reporting count for each candidate separately after the ballots have been counted.  Either way I have yet to see any evidence of anything remotely fraudulent outside of “claiming” states and the Postmaster declining a federal judges order to deliver all ballots in their facilities. Oh yeah and Eric Trump posting a fraudulent video of people burning trump ballots 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,570
    Biden
    ugh. another possible 4 years of this moron. unless he has a McStroke and we get Pence and Mother. 
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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,379
    Biden
    JimmyV said:
    people still highly confident?

    No. Not sure I ever was highly confident, but I felt better yesterday than I do today.
    Agree. And each passing moment creates new opportunity for the buffoon to win some sort of case to have the counting stopped.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,838
    static111 said:
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    mace1229 said:
    static111 said:
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    DewieCox said:
    How exactly is this possible? A batch of over 23,000 votes all for Biden? 


    Trump voters were mailed Sharpies with their ballots.
    So one attempted joke and no other responses? I guess you're all thinking what I'm thinking: weird for 538 to give an approximate amount of how many Luzerne County votes Biden got, and say all 23,000ish in Philly were for Biden. 
    I Don’t think it’s weird that a block of votes from a heavily D area all went to joe.  
    Well I sure do. 23,277 votes ALL for Biden? It's impossible. No matter how "heavily D" it is.  Either 538 is being irresponsible with how they're reporting that. Or...well...you know. 
    No I don’t know. A huge portion of ballots that everyone thought would go D went D?
    Funny. If you look at the returns by county from 2016, particularly deep red states, you see Hillary didn’t get a single vote. But you didn’t have anyone on here whining about it.
    Demographics mean nothing when you are hungry for a conspiracy
    I’m not hungry for a conspiracy. That’s a lot of votes in one batch to all go to one candidate. 
    Its like that kid who is failing and cheats on his final exam and gets a 100%. At least get a couple wrong to make it not look so obvious!
    For the life of me I can’t find anywhere that is reporting that Joe got 100% of the vote in any batch.  Again I would not be surprised if it was in a heavy blue district and it was one batch.  I can’t find one reputable source that claims Biden is getting 100% of any batch.  I think you guys are looking for a reason to call fraud.  It’s ridiculous. Please link me an article of what you are alleging can be corroborated. 
    Google search "ballot dump Biden" and you get lots of stories. This is the one I referred to. 
    https://www.thatsnonsense.com/did-joe-biden-receive-100-of-a-mail-in-ballot-dump-in-michigan-fact-check/
    That was just the first search result. Feel free to search for a more recognizable source. 

    I also saw more stories popping up than I did last night. One other explanation was that some states enter data one candidate at a time. If thats true, you will see Trump dumps too. 
    Pretty weak explanations, but not convinced its a large scale fraud yet. 
    That actually makes sense dumping all ballots for each candidate separately.  Which would lead to speculation pretty easily if people weren’t aware of this fact.
    I don't see how that would be easier or beneficial. Why separate ballots? And is it separated by party of the registered voter or what? But either way, this would be easily verified. If they claim the ballot dump is normal, but it only happened 1 time in favor of 1 candidate, then there's definitely something fishy. If it happened several times in favor of each candidate, then probably is normal. 
    I’m not saying separated ballots although I did use the words. I meant reporting count for each candidate separately after the ballots have been counted.  Either way I have yet to see any evidence of anything remotely fraudulent outside of “claiming” states and the Postmaster declining a federal judges order to deliver all ballots in their facilities. Oh yeah and Eric Trump posting a fraudulent video of people burning trump ballots 
    That does make sense. Should be easily verified. If one candidate gets a big dump of votes, the other should too almost immediately afterwards if that is how they do it.
  • people still highly confident?

    I never was in the first place, and cringed every time I heard people predicting landslides, etc.
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,838
    people still highly confident?

    I never was in the first place, and cringed every time I heard people predicting landslides, etc.
    Whatever the outcome, can we agree the polls were just as bad, if not worse, than 2016? I don't know how anyone will even look at another poll after this, 
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    Biden
    people still highly confident?
    Nope.

    Nevada seems like a wild card. No updates for about 30 hours with only an 8,000 vote lead? Scary stuff!

    I have hope that AZ holds off the late Trump push. But I think NC is gone. Not sure Biden has enough to overcome the deficit to overtake either GA or PA.
    now, Im still nervous until this thing is official...

    But Biden is a huge betting odds favorite for both PA and the election.  He is a smaller favorite in GA, NV, AZ.  

    Nevada does make me really nervous though with all the service workers who may be seduced by Trump's promises that Covid is nothing and we need to just 'open up'.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Biden
    ugh. another possible 4 years of this moron. unless he has a McStroke and we get Pence and Mother. 
    Ha! McStroke


  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,570
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    ugh. another possible 4 years of this moron. unless he has a McStroke and we get Pence and Mother. 
    Ha! McStroke


    oh my god i need to watch more family guy
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,699
    I’m just going to step away, I’m officially done worrying about this election I did my part and voted I’m going to enjoy my life away from politics infiltrating my mind it’s not worth it! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    ugh. another possible 4 years of this moron. unless he has a McStroke and we get Pence and Mother. 
    Ha! McStroke


    oh my god i need to watch more family guy
    The name of the episode is literally McStroke. He won hamburgers for life and had a stroke. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,570
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ugh. another possible 4 years of this moron. unless he has a McStroke and we get Pence and Mother. 
    Ha! McStroke


    oh my god i need to watch more family guy
    The name of the episode is literally McStroke. He won hamburgers for life and had a stroke. 
    seriously? i had no idea. LOL
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,427
    Biden
    Well, we'll all know a lot more in about 30 minutes. Supposed to be updated vote counts in those states still fucking with our sanity.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,131
    Biden
    I keep f5 ing the god damn voting map like it was pj20 tickets.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,570
    Biden
    looks like cnn's fear font is getting bigger by the minute. 




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