Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

gimmesometruth27 said:

did you all see how angry trump was afterward?

i am no lip reader but it looks like he called the moderator unprofessional. then he either pushed melania's hand away or she pulled it away. i can't really tell.

Spiritual_Chaos said:

MayDay10 said:

The oil thing?  Getting off oil by a goal of 2050 will turn the votes of Pennsylvania?  

I think that was the most "brave" moment. I don't want the US to have cheap gasoline or a thriving oil industry. Call me an america-hater if you want to.

Convince the voters of your (brave) ways, instead of sucking up like a politician. Raise the voters. Don't lower yourself.

MayDay10 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

so

what is going to happen in the next 10 days that is going to swing this thing to the republicans? none of the october surprises have changed anything.

i am worried we are going to have a terrorist attack. that is the only thing that could save trump.

Swinging in the Republicans' favor is after the votes come in they will cry it's rigged. 

More to the point - I'm curious to know what everyone here, everyone involved in the Biden/Trump threads, everyone that's been caught up in the hysteria of how bad this president is to the point of becoming unhinged themselves, are going to do if Trump loses? Do you just go back to burying your head in the sand, feeling like the headache is over, and go back to being blissfully ignorant? Because it's not a coincidence that Trump is president, we're at this point because of a myriad of reasons that are valid and legitimate. I just hope people stay engaged beyond this and know that voting for House seats, Senate seats, state legislature seats are just as - if not more - important. Because if old Joe becomes president, and then everyone lets off the gas pedal, then the R's are still gonna come out and vote and those Dem House & Senate elections will receive less votes. Then we're back to gridlock (I mean, if the Dems don't get a majority in all three branches there will be gridlock anyhow, but still...).

you do not have to worry about people here "burying their heads in the sand" if biden wins. i have been posting here for 20 years and people here are always engaged and active. always. if anything, i actually first felt helpless after trump won and did not come around here because i felt too defeated to discuss politics. if biden wins everyone will be energized.

the country needs to heal after trump. the dems will help try to represent all americans instead of just the blue states. many people right now are voting for the first time, and they will continue to vote going forward.

The problem is, human nature, especially in a society filled with smart phone, kardashians, and netflix.... to disengage in politics, especially when your 'side' is in power.  The opposition usually comes back in full force and we kid of get a yo-yo.  The yo-yo isnt entirely a bad thing, and one of the reasons this whole power grab by the Republicans is terrifying.  

I know me personally, I engage and vote in every election.  Actually registered Democrat a few years ago to give myself a chance to vote more (NY has closed primaries). 
I became involved in some grassroots stuff in my town but backed out due to it being a snake pit.... I actually think I will end up running for town office at some point though.
Most people here are engaged.  (Unfortunately), we are becoming the older population who votes.

MayDay10 said:

OnWis97 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

did you all see how angry trump was afterward?

i am no lip reader but it looks like he called the moderator unprofessional. then he either pushed melania's hand away or she pulled it away. i can't really tell.

Really? I didn't watch it (y'all faced it; life wasted) but on facebook I saw a bunch of Trumpies praising the moderator. I assumed that meant she favored Trump.

No, I think it was a reflection on a combination of the mics being cut and the fact that Trump didnt act like a zoo animal.  She just kind of let them talk.

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

MayDay10 said:

The oil thing?  Getting off oil by a goal of 2050 will turn the votes of Pennsylvania?  

I think that was the most "brave" moment. I don't want the US to have cheap gasoline or a thriving oil industry. Call me an america-hater if you want to.

Convince the voters of your (brave) ways, instead of sucking up like a politician. Raise the voters. Don't lower yourself.

It was a dumb moment.  Why say that at this point?  Joe being Joe...which is never a good thing.

You want your politicians to lie?

hedonist said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

MayDay10 said:

The oil thing?  Getting off oil by a goal of 2050 will turn the votes of Pennsylvania?  

I think that was the most "brave" moment. I don't want the US to have cheap gasoline or a thriving oil industry. Call me an america-hater if you want to.

Convince the voters of your (brave) ways, instead of sucking up like a politician. Raise the voters. Don't lower yourself.

It was a dumb moment.  Why say that at this point?  Joe being Joe...which is never a good thing.

You want your politicians to lie?

To me, that’s a pie-in-the-sky way of thinking; it’s a given they do. 

Now, Donny has taken things into the stratosphere.  He pretty much does not tell any truths. 

Jearlpam0925 said:

OnWis97 said:

MayDay10 said:

OnWis97 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

did you all see how angry trump was afterward?

i am no lip reader but it looks like he called the moderator unprofessional. then he either pushed melania's hand away or she pulled it away. i can't really tell.

Really? I didn't watch it (y'all faced it; life wasted) but on facebook I saw a bunch of Trumpies praising the moderator. I assumed that meant she favored Trump.

No, I think it was a reflection on a combination of the mics being cut and the fact that Trump didnt act like a zoo animal.  She just kind of let them talk.

Sadly, that probably makes him the winner in the eyes of some.

Dancing Bear Routine. He's been normalized. It's pathetic.

F Me In The Brain said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

OnWis97 said:

MayDay10 said:

OnWis97 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

did you all see how angry trump was afterward?

i am no lip reader but it looks like he called the moderator unprofessional. then he either pushed melania's hand away or she pulled it away. i can't really tell.

Really? I didn't watch it (y'all faced it; life wasted) but on facebook I saw a bunch of Trumpies praising the moderator. I assumed that meant she favored Trump.

No, I think it was a reflection on a combination of the mics being cut and the fact that Trump didnt act like a zoo animal.  She just kind of let them talk.

Sadly, that probably makes him the winner in the eyes of some.

Dancing Bear Routine. He's been normalized. It's pathetic.

Not dancing, but yeah.

I am actually guilty of what you are writing about -- paying less attention to local politics.  I will no longer do that.  Everyone who supports Trump, or anything from the crowd of dunces which produced Trump as a reality, gets voted against.  No quibbles, no bait taken, etc.

One of the most difficult part of local politics, to me, is finding info about the candidates.

In CA they made this readily available -- here in NJ, it takes a lot of digging to find info and in some cases even then I cannot locate.

Tips?  (outside of going to meetings -- in a normal year I travel 40+ times for work.)