PHILLY (Loosely Related to The Philadelphia Phillies)

Cliffy6745 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Yeah mans, come on over we'll do a whole socially distanced thing and all that shit.

That’s a nice little view. We’ll have to figure out something soon. Apparently our wives chat more than we do

Haha, I believe that is an accurate statement.

The Juggler said:

We need some of that Bloomberg money here as well. 

I don't know, man, I feel like money isn't the problem right now - people have donated $100M to ActBlue groups since Friday. What's needed are boots on the ground, knocking on doors, calling, texting, mailing, yada.

F Me In The Brain said:

I love the way you support the interaction/education of the people.

I have less faith in humanity

I'm right there with you, man (overall we're fucking doomed as a society because we're in general an inherently terrible people), but it's the only way.  I've gone through enough hoops on this stuff and am convinced of it. Basically, the only way to redeem people from being pieces of shit is by connecting with them on some level. Hell, it's the reason we are where we are right now at this moment. The more you let people live in silos and garner whatever bullshit they want in their heads from some nonsensical Facebook post, or cable news, the worse off things will always get. Have the hard conversations with people you know - those shitty in-laws? Neighbors? Challenge them on their bullshit, ask them why they believe what they believe. It doesn't have to be an argument or a fight. And more than anything I'm not trying to change minds of the absolutely insane here, either - I'm trying to pull more votes from people I know who lean my way (maybe they just are disconnected, or pretty simply just need a reminder) than who has a complete skull fuck nightmare of a worldview from my own.

Personally, I live in a closed primary state. I'd love to smell the stink of my own shit and go around prancing as a nonpartisan/independently registered voter (hello, year 2000 18 year-old me, who was the fucking dumbass that voted for Nader). But the fact of the matter is I do not live in an open primary/rank choice voting state - those in power are decided in primaries (especially in Philly, which is a one-party town). Until those things change (and they won't without the support of at least one of the two major parties) this is the framework I/we have to work within. And at this point there's no fucking way the Repub's will ever get my vote back, especially on the federal level. The only R's to get my vote in the last 10 years are the City Commissioner and the mayoral candidate in 2015.

But money ain't the answer, human-to-human contact is - end of rant.

The Juggler said:

I think money is still a huge part of it. Flood the airwaves even more with just info on how to vote early/how to vote by mail, cut off dates etc etc etc. 

With so few people deciding the election, it certainly can't hurt!

Yeah you're right, I mean even boots on the ground costs money, too.

The biggest thing now is - and this is incredibly specific - re: mail-in ballots in PA. Before you mail that shit in the ballot HAS to be placed in the secrecy envelope that is provided, and then placed in the envelope with the postage. Otherwise that ballot is no good. As soon as you get your mail-in ballot fill it out, seal it up, and immediately return it - or better yet personally take it to your county's election official's office or drop box.

Oh, and yeah.... VOTESPA.COM

The Juggler said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

The Juggler said:

I think money is still a huge part of it. Flood the airwaves even more with just info on how to vote early/how to vote by mail, cut off dates etc etc etc. 

With so few people deciding the election, it certainly can't hurt!

Yeah you're right, I mean even boots on the ground costs money, too.

The biggest thing now is - and this is incredibly specific - re: mail-in ballots in PA. Before you mail that shit in the ballot HAS to be placed in the secrecy envelope that is provided, and then placed in the envelope with the postage. Otherwise that ballot is no good. As soon as you get your mail-in ballot fill it out, seal it up, and immediately return it - or better yet personally take it to your county's election official's office or drop box.

Oh, and yeah.... VOTESPA.COM

I hope more people do that

Annnd just like that...ugh...

https://twitter.com/hollyotterbein/status/1308076165614231552?s=20

Cliffy6745 said:

He is going to steal it unless it is an absolute blowout for Biden on election night.  He is going to get his nominee jammed through and if/when he is up on election night, he is going to say he won. By the time it gets to the supreme court he'll have his in place and they'll uphold whatever it is he is saying.  I am hoping I am just going crazy and this is just a conspiracy theory, but thinking it's what is going to happen.

To add onto this my only concern is a crisis of a changing of the guard, really. Because we won't know on election night who the winner is no matter what. My worst case scenario is, and I think it's fairly likely, is fuckface jumps out to a huge lead on Election night because of all the knuckledraggers voting in person. Then over the next couple weeks an avalanche of mail in ballots will come in giving Biden the lead. Dipshit will scream RIGGED, not leave office, and then ensues the civil war. Haha, I kid! No, but seriously, that's how it's gonna play out. Only chance of a smooth transition is an absolute blowout by Biden, which I really do not see happening.

Additionally, regardless, I don't think D's take the Senate so the R's will jam through another SC pick anyway because they know Biden won't nominate any of their jesus freaks.

The gloves came off when they didn't confirm Garland, whom himself was a compromise of a nomination and well overqualified for the position. So when the dust settles and they've confirmed another judge, three things need to happen going forward - 1) Write hard and fast legislation to make gerrymandering illegal 2) grant statehood to DC and Puerto Rico 3) pack the Supreme Court from here on out.

Cliffy6745 said:

When the hell do those last 3 things happen though? When do democrats get any power back if as you say, they don't take control of the senate and fuck face does what he's going to do.  This is very bad.

Well the SC appointment is all but a certainty at this point. I think the gerrymander could be done soon, but the other two in due time. Dems can go back to being feckless and play nice and then (hopefully) step on their throats when you get the Senate again. There's no other choice.

I mean it's not an absolute certainty they don't get the Senate, it's certainly within reach for sure. At least Dems control the purse strings for the time being, but having a senate where over 50% of the population of the country are only represented by less than 20% of the senate is a travesty.