Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

Ledbetterman10 · September 2020

Biden

Lerxst1992 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mace1229 said:

Assuming Biden wins, I don't see him running for reelection in 4 years. I do think you will see a lot more focus on Harris, or whoever they hope to put on the ticket, than Biden for the second half of the term. Wouldn't really even be surprised if he resigns after 3 years so she can run as the incumbent for reelection. I'm not convinced that is the plan going in right now, just won't be surprised if that happens one bit.

The problem with that though is Harris’ electability. Remember she had such little support in the primary that she dropped out before Iowa. Being VP will obviously raise her profile. But will she become popular with the left over the next four years? The only reason this ticket is probably going to win is because Trump is an awful incumbent. It won’t be as easy in 2024.

I think you are forgetting if Biden wins, he controls the executive branch. Everything trump has swept under the rug comes out. If there are any serious financial ties from the kremlin to trumps pocket, it’s coming out. If trump did anything to undermine our democracy in favor of Putin, it’s coming out. Not from the fake media but in black and white, the actual documents. Did you read what former Trump DNI Dan Coats said about Trump / Russia in the Woodward book? And that’s from a lifelong conservative

You are also forgetting about covid. If Biden puts together a cohesive strategy with masks and six feet and we get the R rate very low and we can go back to bitching about how little PJ tours and how difficult it is to get good tickets, even without a vaccine, that will be a strong narrative to defeat republicans in the future. Sometimes regulations are not a dirty word. Sometimes they actually save lives.

And you're forgetting that a lot of getting elected involves likeability and popularity, and in this scenario where Biden serves one-term and Harris runs in 2024, she has a long way to go in those regards. Likeability goes a lot further than policy it seems. Look at Bush's elections. Or even Trump's (unlikeable as he is) versus Hillary.

As for your first paragraph, yeah, that'd be good if justice is served regarding Trump and everything you laid out, but I don't think people will be so grateful for that that Harris could waltz her way to the presidency in 2024. And even if Biden saves us all from Covid with his regulations and becomes very popular for it, Harris herself would still not be a shoo-in in 2024. So she'd have served under a popular president. Well so did Al Gore and Hillary. And they served under presidents that (presumably, to me) were more popular than Biden will be.

The Juggler · September 2020

Biden

josevolution said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

josevolution said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mace1229 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

At least they're being forthcoming about it....
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1305706786884902912?s=20

https://twitter.com/abigailmarone/status/1305934035793907713?s=20

So should we change the poll to Harris vs Trump?

That wouldn't make a difference here, but if the election was really Harris vs. Trump, the polls may be very different. So those two should watch what they say. Biden mixing up the order of the names on the ticket is just Biden being Biden. But Harris saying the words "A Harris administration" comes off like a Freudian slip.

lol nothing burger if this is something to be concerned about we are doomed specially after all the crap Covidiot has said done on&on!

It's hilarious how defensive some of you guys get.

lol keep bringing up nothing burgers , will keep on dismissing them at least bring something with some meat on it enjoy looking for them!

lol
I heard the antifa website redirects to Biden's!

The Juggler · September 2020

Biden

So anyway...stuff that matters: Trump has a TON of work to do to get ready for these debates.

I am not sure he could've looked worse last night.

Ledbetterman10 · September 2020

Biden

The Juggler said:

lol
I heard the antifa website redirects to Biden's!

Still does. Even if you don't care about it, it is an interesting tidbit. Lord knows if proudboys.com redirected to Trump's campaign site, it would be a topic of conversation around here. But it's a nothing-burger when it's about Biden.

josevolution · September 2020

The Juggler said:

So anyway...stuff that matters: Trump has a TON of work to do to get ready for these debates.

I am not sure he could've looked worse last night.

Incompetent comes to mind!

HughFreakingDillon · September 2020

Biden

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

lol
I heard the antifa website redirects to Biden's!

Still does. Even if you don't care about it, it is an interesting tidbit. Lord knows if proudboys.com redirected to Trump's campaign site, it would be a topic of conversation around here. But it's a nothing-burger when it's about Biden.

true

tbergs · September 2020

Biden

HughFreakingDillon said:

OnWis97 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mace1229 said:

Assuming Biden wins, I don't see him running for reelection in 4 years. I do think you will see a lot more focus on Harris, or whoever they hope to put on the ticket, than Biden for the second half of the term. Wouldn't really even be surprised if he resigns after 3 years so she can run as the incumbent for reelection. I'm not convinced that is the plan going in right now, just won't be surprised if that happens one bit.

The problem with that though is Harris’ electability. Remember she had such little support in the primary that she dropped out before Iowa. Being VP will obviously raise her profile. But will she become popular with the left over the next four years? The only reason this ticket is probably going to win is because Trump is an awful incumbent. It won’t be as easy in 2024.

it will be if another trump is on the ticket. and any other established republican has already shown they are traitors. it would have to be an unknown, and extremely dynamic.

I don't think there will ever be another Trump. He's his own thing. There might be another "asshole that cozies up to foreign agitators" type of candidate someday, but it takes more than just that to be Trump. They'd have to be egomaniacal yet insecure, shameless (Trump's "greatest" "strength" in some ways), and a sociopath.

i meant another trump literally. don jr, ivanka, etc.

Oh I see. I don’t think either of them would make it through the primary. No charisma. Donald was at least an entertainer for most his life, so that sorta made up for all his shortcomings. And I don’t think “owning the libs” is still gonna be very viable in four years...and that’s all Don Jr. knows. It’d be entertaining to watch him flame out in a primary though.

If Biden wins, I think the Trumps might be done in DC. But If Trump wins, I really foresee both Junior and Ivanka becoming president. Junior is just like his father. A stupid rich kid who thinks he accomplished something, has a victim complex, trolls on Twitter, and owns the libs. Ivanka's just as bad (i.e., in it for the family money) but is less blusterous, so maybe she doesn't make it. In his second term, Donald Trump will be the most powerful person in the history of the United States. By the time the term is over, the Trumps should be permanently in place as America's First Family.

If Trump loses, the GQP is likely to find someone else to own the libs. Probably another Trump minus the narcissism. But owning the libs is all the GQP is now. And given the state of the Web, social media, and conspiracy theories, I don't see that changing. They're not nominating Romney or someone ever again.

i could see junior rallying the trumpsters, but not invanka. she's an emotionless cyborg. she'd be a good candidate as a world dictator in the year 2362, only seen from the neck up on 100 foot screens shown to the enslaved masses.

C'mon now, you must have meant chest up. Seems to be why so many find her appealing at all. And let's face it, current Trump supporters would vote for her just because of how she looks.

josevolution · September 2020

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

lol
I heard the antifa website redirects to Biden's!

Still does. Even if you don't care about it, it is an interesting tidbit. Lord knows if proudboys.com redirected to Trump's campaign site, it would be a topic of conversation around here. But it's a nothing-burger when it's about Biden.

The difference is that Covidiot does align himself with racist Americans! Biden has already renounced any violence or violent groups...

Ledbetterman10 · September 2020

Biden

josevolution said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

lol
I heard the antifa website redirects to Biden's!

Still does. Even if you don't care about it, it is an interesting tidbit. Lord knows if proudboys.com redirected to Trump's campaign site, it would be a topic of conversation around here. But it's a nothing-burger when it's about Biden.

The difference is that Covidiot does align himself with racist Americans! Biden has already renounced any violence or violent groups...

His campaign should do a cease-and-desist against whoever is causing that website to link to his. By knowing about it (obviously his campaing knows that link is active) and not doing anything, they're sort of "winking" at those far left-loons the same way Trump "winks" (he sometimes more than winks) at the far-right loons.

josevolution · September 2020

Ledbetterman10 said:

josevolution said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

lol
I heard the antifa website redirects to Biden's!

Still does. Even if you don't care about it, it is an interesting tidbit. Lord knows if proudboys.com redirected to Trump's campaign site, it would be a topic of conversation around here. But it's a nothing-burger when it's about Biden.

The difference is that Covidiot does align himself with racist Americans! Biden has already renounced any violence or violent groups...

His campaign should do a cease-and-desist against whoever is causing that website to link to his. By knowing about it (obviously his campaing knows that link is active) and not doing anything, they're sort of "winking" at those far left-loons the same way Trump "winks" (he sometimes more than winks) at the far-right loons.

lol i guess I can agree with that,but I’m not sure the Biden team definitely is aware..

The Juggler · September 2020

Biden

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

lol
I heard the antifa website redirects to Biden's!

Still does. Even if you don't care about it, it is an interesting tidbit. Lord knows if proudboys.com redirected to Trump's campaign site, it would be a topic of conversation around here. But it's a nothing-burger when it's about Biden.

What is interesting about it? Seems like a stupid prank to me.

Ledbetterman10 · September 2020

Biden

josevolution said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

josevolution said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

lol
I heard the antifa website redirects to Biden's!

Still does. Even if you don't care about it, it is an interesting tidbit. Lord knows if proudboys.com redirected to Trump's campaign site, it would be a topic of conversation around here. But it's a nothing-burger when it's about Biden.

The difference is that Covidiot does align himself with racist Americans! Biden has already renounced any violence or violent groups...

His campaign should do a cease-and-desist against whoever is causing that website to link to his. By knowing about it (obviously his campaing knows that link is active) and not doing anything, they're sort of "winking" at those far left-loons the same way Trump "winks" (he sometimes more than winks) at the far-right loons.

lol ok I guess your in the know crowd..

What does this even mean? Are you saying there's no way for me to know that someone in the Biden campaign knows that link is active? Is that what you're suggesting? Because if they don't know, then they're complete morons. But they're not morons, they're just ignoring it. Hell, there's a USA Today article about it. So you, me, and USA Today readers that read the article know, but nobody in the campaign knows? lol. "Come on, man."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/02/fact-check-antifa-com-redirects-joe-biden-site-hes-not-involved/3455297001/

And yes, when you click the link, it says Biden is not involved. I believe that. I doubt he's calling up some antifa.com webmaster and asking for their site to link to his. But he (his campaign, because he's helpeless) is being complicit by allowing it to stay up for months.

HughFreakingDillon · September 2020

Biden

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

lol
I heard the antifa website redirects to Biden's!

Still does. Even if you don't care about it, it is an interesting tidbit. Lord knows if proudboys.com redirected to Trump's campaign site, it would be a topic of conversation around here. But it's a nothing-burger when it's about Biden.

What is interesting about it? Seems like a stupid prank to me.

what he's trying to illustrate here is that if a proud boys/confederacy/kkk website directed to the trump campaign website, the left would be up in arms demanding he denounce it. but biden? meh, just a prank.

The Juggler · September 2020

Biden

HughFreakingDillon said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

lol
I heard the antifa website redirects to Biden's!

Still does. Even if you don't care about it, it is an interesting tidbit. Lord knows if proudboys.com redirected to Trump's campaign site, it would be a topic of conversation around here. But it's a nothing-burger when it's about Biden.

What is interesting about it? Seems like a stupid prank to me.

what he's trying to illustrate here is that if a proud boys/confederacy/kkk website directed to the trump campaign website, the left would be up in arms demanding he denounce it. but biden? meh, just a prank.

First off, I as bad as antifa's actions are, comparing them to the kkk is asinine. But why would we be up in arms though? We already know those people support him. It would not be as if Trump somehow made those websites redirect to his. It's either a prank or or the group wants it to redirect to the candidate they support. Either way, who cares? It's a fucking website. lol.

There's a reason nobody cares about this...

mrussel1 · September 2020

Biden

Ledbetterman10 said:

josevolution said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

josevolution said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

lol
I heard the antifa website redirects to Biden's!

Still does. Even if you don't care about it, it is an interesting tidbit. Lord knows if proudboys.com redirected to Trump's campaign site, it would be a topic of conversation around here. But it's a nothing-burger when it's about Biden.

The difference is that Covidiot does align himself with racist Americans! Biden has already renounced any violence or violent groups...

His campaign should do a cease-and-desist against whoever is causing that website to link to his. By knowing about it (obviously his campaing knows that link is active) and not doing anything, they're sort of "winking" at those far left-loons the same way Trump "winks" (he sometimes more than winks) at the far-right loons.

lol ok I guess your in the know crowd..

What does this even mean? Are you saying there's no way for me to know that someone in the Biden campaign knows that link is active? Is that what you're suggesting? Because if they don't know, then they're complete morons. But they're not morons, they're just ignoring it. Hell, there's a USA Today article about it. So you, me, and USA Today readers that read the article know, but nobody in the campaign knows? lol. "Come on, man."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/02/fact-check-antifa-com-redirects-joe-biden-site-hes-not-involved/3455297001/

And yes, when you click the link, it says Biden is not involved. I believe that. I doubt he's calling up some antifa.com webmaster and asking for their site to link to his. But he (his campaign, because he's helpeless) is being complicit by allowing it to stay up for months.

Filing a lawsuit (a C&D would only be temporary injunction) would only draw more attention and specifically mainstream news attention to the issue. It's just a prank and there's no reason to give it more legs than it has (which is hardly any).

Ledbetterman10 · September 2020

Biden

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

josevolution said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

josevolution said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

lol
I heard the antifa website redirects to Biden's!

Still does. Even if you don't care about it, it is an interesting tidbit. Lord knows if proudboys.com redirected to Trump's campaign site, it would be a topic of conversation around here. But it's a nothing-burger when it's about Biden.

The difference is that Covidiot does align himself with racist Americans! Biden has already renounced any violence or violent groups...

His campaign should do a cease-and-desist against whoever is causing that website to link to his. By knowing about it (obviously his campaing knows that link is active) and not doing anything, they're sort of "winking" at those far left-loons the same way Trump "winks" (he sometimes more than winks) at the far-right loons.

lol ok I guess your in the know crowd..

What does this even mean? Are you saying there's no way for me to know that someone in the Biden campaign knows that link is active? Is that what you're suggesting? Because if they don't know, then they're complete morons. But they're not morons, they're just ignoring it. Hell, there's a USA Today article about it. So you, me, and USA Today readers that read the article know, but nobody in the campaign knows? lol. "Come on, man."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/02/fact-check-antifa-com-redirects-joe-biden-site-hes-not-involved/3455297001/

And yes, when you click the link, it says Biden is not involved. I believe that. I doubt he's calling up some antifa.com webmaster and asking for their site to link to his. But he (his campaign, because he's helpeless) is being complicit by allowing it to stay up for months.

Filing a lawsuit (a C&D would only be temporary injunction) would only draw more attention and specifically mainstream news attention to the issue. It's just a prank and there's no reason to give it more legs than it has (which is hardly any).

Well that's reasonable enough. Though I doubt the mainstream media would even cover it besides Fox News.

Halifax2TheMax · September 2020

The Juggler said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

lol
I heard the antifa website redirects to Biden's!

Still does. Even if you don't care about it, it is an interesting tidbit. Lord knows if proudboys.com redirected to Trump's campaign site, it would be a topic of conversation around here. But it's a nothing-burger when it's about Biden.

What is interesting about it? Seems like a stupid prank to me.

what he's trying to illustrate here is that if a proud boys/confederacy/kkk website directed to the trump campaign website, the left would be up in arms demanding he denounce it. but biden? meh, just a prank.

First off, I as bad as antifa's actions are, comparing them to the kkk is asinine. But why would we be up in arms though? We already know those people support him. It would not be as if Trump somehow made those websites redirect to his. It's either a prank or or the group wants it to redirect to the candidate they support. Either way, who cares? It's a fucking website. lol.

There's a reason nobody cares about this...

Maybe because its Putin on the ritz's troll farms and if anyone should denounce it, it should be Team Trump Treason telling Putin on the ritz to stay the fuck out of our elections and to knock it off, maybe freeze Russia's online banking for a day to get the message across? But seeing how Team Trump Treason was in phone contact with Roger Dodger Stoned who was in phone contact with Julian Asstrange who was in contact with "I'm liking this guy Guccifer 2.0" Putin on the ritz's intelligence services regarding the leaks of the DNC's and Podesta's emails, that'll never happen.

Ledbetterman10 · September 2020

Biden

Halifax2TheMax said:

The Juggler said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

lol
I heard the antifa website redirects to Biden's!

Still does. Even if you don't care about it, it is an interesting tidbit. Lord knows if proudboys.com redirected to Trump's campaign site, it would be a topic of conversation around here. But it's a nothing-burger when it's about Biden.

What is interesting about it? Seems like a stupid prank to me.

what he's trying to illustrate here is that if a proud boys/confederacy/kkk website directed to the trump campaign website, the left would be up in arms demanding he denounce it. but biden? meh, just a prank.

First off, I as bad as antifa's actions are, comparing them to the kkk is asinine. But why would we be up in arms though? We already know those people support him. It would not be as if Trump somehow made those websites redirect to his. It's either a prank or or the group wants it to redirect to the candidate they support. Either way, who cares? It's a fucking website. lol.

There's a reason nobody cares about this...

Maybe because its Putin on the ritz's troll farms and if anyone should denounce it, it should be Team Trump Treason telling Putin on the ritz to stay the fuck out of our elections and to knock it off, maybe freeze Russia's online banking for a day to get the message across? But seeing how Team Trump Treason was in phone contact with Roger Dodger Stoned who was in phone contact with Julian Asstrange who was in contact with "I'm liking this guy Guccifer 2.0" Putin on the ritz's intelligence services regarding the leaks of the DNC's and Podesta's emails, that'll never happen.

lol

Halifax2TheMax · September 2020

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

The Juggler said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

lol
I heard the antifa website redirects to Biden's!

Still does. Even if you don't care about it, it is an interesting tidbit. Lord knows if proudboys.com redirected to Trump's campaign site, it would be a topic of conversation around here. But it's a nothing-burger when it's about Biden.

What is interesting about it? Seems like a stupid prank to me.

what he's trying to illustrate here is that if a proud boys/confederacy/kkk website directed to the trump campaign website, the left would be up in arms demanding he denounce it. but biden? meh, just a prank.

First off, I as bad as antifa's actions are, comparing them to the kkk is asinine. But why would we be up in arms though? We already know those people support him. It would not be as if Trump somehow made those websites redirect to his. It's either a prank or or the group wants it to redirect to the candidate they support. Either way, who cares? It's a fucking website. lol.

There's a reason nobody cares about this...

Maybe because its Putin on the ritz's troll farms and if anyone should denounce it, it should be Team Trump Treason telling Putin on the ritz to stay the fuck out of our elections and to knock it off, maybe freeze Russia's online banking for a day to get the message across? But seeing how Team Trump Treason was in phone contact with Roger Dodger Stoned who was in phone contact with Julian Asstrange who was in contact with "I'm liking this guy Guccifer 2.0" Putin on the ritz's intelligence services regarding the leaks of the DNC's and Podesta's emails, that'll never happen.

lol

Are you discounting our own intelligence agencies assessments of putin on the ritz's continued interference in our electoral process? Like Team Trump Treason? Or do you welcome it? Odd to find those facts "lol." Kinda like "liking the Guccifer 2.0 guy."

Ledbetterman10 · September 2020

Biden

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

The Juggler said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

lol
I heard the antifa website redirects to Biden's!

Still does. Even if you don't care about it, it is an interesting tidbit. Lord knows if proudboys.com redirected to Trump's campaign site, it would be a topic of conversation around here. But it's a nothing-burger when it's about Biden.

What is interesting about it? Seems like a stupid prank to me.

what he's trying to illustrate here is that if a proud boys/confederacy/kkk website directed to the trump campaign website, the left would be up in arms demanding he denounce it. but biden? meh, just a prank.

First off, I as bad as antifa's actions are, comparing them to the kkk is asinine. But why would we be up in arms though? We already know those people support him. It would not be as if Trump somehow made those websites redirect to his. It's either a prank or or the group wants it to redirect to the candidate they support. Either way, who cares? It's a fucking website. lol.

There's a reason nobody cares about this...

Maybe because its Putin on the ritz's troll farms and if anyone should denounce it, it should be Team Trump Treason telling Putin on the ritz to stay the fuck out of our elections and to knock it off, maybe freeze Russia's online banking for a day to get the message across? But seeing how Team Trump Treason was in phone contact with Roger Dodger Stoned who was in phone contact with Julian Asstrange who was in contact with "I'm liking this guy Guccifer 2.0" Putin on the ritz's intelligence services regarding the leaks of the DNC's and Podesta's emails, that'll never happen.

lol

Are you discounting our own intelligence agencies assessments of putin on the ritz's continued interference in our electoral process? Like Team Trump Treason? Or do you welcome it? Odd to find those facts "lol." Kinda like "liking the Guccifer 2.0 guy."

No. Since we were talking about the Antifa.com/JoeBiden.com link, and you responded to that in particular with Putin and troll farms, that's what I'm discounting. If an intelligence reports comes out confirming that Vladimir Putin bought the url "Antifa.com" off of it's previous owners and linked it to Joe Biden's website, then I'll stop discounting it.

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